Why Does Sin Feel So Good

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Brian Holdsworth

Brian Holdsworth

5 жыл бұрын

As I was being introduced to what Catholicism taught and expected of its adherents, I realized that there was a range of behaviours we call sins that I was going to have to divest myself of if I wanted to make a go of this thing.
And that pattern would bring me to the point of asking an inevitable question, often. If sins are wrong and God made us and the universe according to a certain intelligibility whereby his mind and intention is revealed to us through nature, why did he make some sins feel so good?
In order to answer that question it might be helpful to look at a micro use case that so exaggerates the qualities of what we’re talking about here, that it might make it easier to understand.
From what I’m told, if your greatest ambition in life is hedonistic pleasure, then crystal meth might have some appeal for you.
According to some page I found on the internet, this is what it’s like to consume meth.
The first effect is the “Rush” in which the user’s heartbeat, metabolism, and blood pressure take off surging the drug and the effects throughout your body. I’m not sure how accurate this is, but I’ve been told that meth raises your dopamine levels, which is a pleasure chemical in your brain, to levels as high as 7 times what you experience with sex.
Next, the high kicks in and this is where you experience an unrivaled euphoria that convinces you that you are the most important person in the world.
Next, you experience the binge in which you become so obsessed with the high you’re experiencing that you start to do whatever you can to keep it going, usually translating into taking more meth. This can last as long as 3 to 15 days. With each boost of the drug, the user experiences another rush that lessons each time until there is no more rush or high.
Then the user experiences tweaking when it is impossible to continue to feel the high and the catastrophic effects on the brain become pronounced. The user starts to experience horrible feelings and craving that can’t be satisfied and at this point, they’re in a completely psychotic state trapped in their own nightmare of hallucinations and psychosis.
And maybe you’ve been in a situation, where you’ve done something you believed to be a sin and asked yourself or God, if this is so bad, why does it feel so good.
I think there are a couple considerations that can bring some insight to this question. The first is that most sins are not some immersion into utter depravity, but a perversion of some good. Like sex is a good that God created as a part of life, but we can abuse sex through perversion, but those perversions still retain some measure of the good that God created it with, so there can still be experiences of pleasure even though the act has been compromised.
The second thing is that while sin may be bad, while you and I still retain some measure of goodness and innocence, we are capable of experiencing the pleasure of what it means to be good.
So with the meth example, a person who has never done meth or other drugs which alter their brain chemistry, is someone who can experience the pleasure the drug promises because their brain is healthy. But what meth does is it takes what is good in that person, their normal brain function, and abuses its potential by releasing an extreme surge of dopamine that causes an experience that the brain would not normally produce.
So, because they have a healthy brain, they are able to experience the pleasure that meth promises, but as the example reveals, after using the drug, their brain succumbs to a state of affliction from which the drug can no longer produce the pleasurable effect.
And this is how all drugs and all addictions work. The first time you do it, you experience a pleasure that convinces you that this same trigger can produce the same pleasure any time you want, but as addiction sets in, that same experience of pleasure moves further and further out of reach, until you’re just using to fend of the withdrawal.
That’s a profound allegory or even demonstration for the nature of any sin. Some sins, when you first embrace them, can produce a pleasurable experience, but that’s not because the sin is good, but because you are good and that which is good can experience what is good (that is pleasure), even if it’s tainted.
But each time you embrace some compromise of sin, it changes you from the person who was good and, therefore capable of experiencing the pleasure of the experience, to someone who is intrinsically less good.
CS Lewis puts it this way. “Every time you make a choice you are turning the central part of you, into something a little different than it was before. And taking your life as a whole, with all your innumerable choices, all your life long you are slowly turning this central thing into a heavenly creature or a hellish creature.”

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@keymaker2112
@keymaker2112 5 жыл бұрын
"Becoming Catholic will not stop you from sinning, but it will take the fun out of it."- Colorado Priest
@naelpo
@naelpo 5 жыл бұрын
exactly
@CastilleCastillac
@CastilleCastillac 5 жыл бұрын
keymaker2112 ROP! During the past people were already sinner, but they knew how to spell the word and didn’t feel comfortable in it. De nos jours, it’s totally different they just ignore the Person their behavior offends......
@beneed
@beneed 5 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@lordmozart3087
@lordmozart3087 5 жыл бұрын
keymaker2112 I’m not even in the church yet and I agree
@tipofmytongue1024
@tipofmytongue1024 5 жыл бұрын
How true!
@SkeeterMcBeater
@SkeeterMcBeater 5 жыл бұрын
This subject has been cropping up in my youtube feed. Maybe it's the algorithm. Maybe it's a sign.
@siegfried.7649
@siegfried.7649 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's both. ;)
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the biases of Google's algorithms, I would consider it a miracle that it's directing you here. I would definitely say both.
@tedshoemaker923
@tedshoemaker923 5 жыл бұрын
What was said about meth addiction also applies (in a less obvious way) to many other sins: lying, pride, gossip, gluttony, sex sin, hatred, disobedience to parents, and more. Hebrews 11:25 tells us that sin has pleasure -- for a time.
@victoriawoodring1824
@victoriawoodring1824 5 жыл бұрын
This video was insanely good.
@mikemallett64
@mikemallett64 5 жыл бұрын
Brian you are wise beyond your years and I find many of your videos come to me at a time when I am wrestling with the very issue you are talking about. Keep up the good work my friend. peace to you.
@antaine1916
@antaine1916 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most profound pieces of advice I ever heard: "Learn from other people's mistakes. You'll never live long enough to make all of them yourself."
@CastilleCastillac
@CastilleCastillac 5 жыл бұрын
Merveilleux! He haven’t even experienced drugs.... but he believes those who did. Nowadays they want the youth to experience every single thing. Specially the one-ways. And are told not to believe the elders. ....“For to one who believes no explanation is necessary, to the one who doesn’t no explanation is sufficient “ Saint Augustin...
@st.michaelthearchangel7774
@st.michaelthearchangel7774 4 жыл бұрын
This is why JP2 was a master at explaining sexuality, aka Theology of the body. He was so in-tune with God and other people, he knew humanity inside and out very well. The paradox of being celibate, yet knowing the human person so well is incredible. :)
@Adammmmuuuwee11
@Adammmmuuuwee11 5 жыл бұрын
It's kinda like McDonald's. Feels good on the way in but you almost instantly regret it. God's ways are ultimately freedom. Sometimes it's just a matter of viewing God's laws in the right mindset...that is as a path to fruitfulness and freedom. Ultimately you we can't give into every impulse or that would make us just animals.
@blindtruth4614
@blindtruth4614 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on how much McDonald's you eat and how often you eat it, I will occasionally eat a McDonald's and it does not cause me any unmanageable side effects because I control how often I eat it and how often, now of course if you overindulge that would be another thing entirely but that is the case for most things in life, as long as you have self-discipline and have the will power to restrict yourself (not always easy) it is quite possible to try most things without harm (not recommending things like meths by the way or even drugs)
@blindtruth4614
@blindtruth4614 5 жыл бұрын
@David Russell Ah American McDonalds I always wanted to try American fast foods but the size of them are scary I look at what some order for dinner and I am like that would feed me for two or three days lol.
@itsnotallrainbowsandunicor1505
@itsnotallrainbowsandunicor1505 4 жыл бұрын
A burger on it's own never causes much of an issue. A burger, fries and a large milk shake, now we're talking.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 4 жыл бұрын
“Sin promises u everything And gives u nothing in return.” Catholic priest when I was a kid
@marcokite
@marcokite 4 жыл бұрын
more or less what Dante says in the Divine Comedy, 'sin promises but doesn't pay'
@augustas9844
@augustas9844 5 жыл бұрын
This was so insightful. But it also made my heart sink like a stone to the bottom of the sea. My children and I just discovered that my husband is on meth. It has traumatized us. As a devoted Catholic all I can do is sit back and pray, and try to get over the guilt of criticizing him for it.
@littledrummergirl_19
@littledrummergirl_19 5 жыл бұрын
Awwww girl I’m so sorry :( I’ll keep you and your family in my prayers ❤️
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 жыл бұрын
Augusta S - Praying for you. You may wish to look for a group called Nar-Anon (www.nar-anon.org/find-a-meeting). Nar-Anon isn't Catholic, and some priests question some of the philosophy, because it's designed for people of all religions. But if you are strong in your faith and can recognize which advice isn't in line with Catholic teaching, then approach it with the attitude that you're looking for "takeaways" -- advice and education that is in line with the Church's teachings. If you are able, make an appointment with your priest for spiritual counsel to discuss the guilt of criticizing your husband. It won't be a psychological counseling session, but rather for making a plan for spiritual growth. God put you where you are so that you will become a saint in your circumstances. He didn't make your husband a meth user -- in fact He made your husband to be a saint, too. As traumatic as it is, hang on to the hope that God works all to our good.
@augustas9844
@augustas9844 5 жыл бұрын
KA Fleury - Thank you for the prayers and info. Perhaps I can speak to someone there and learn more about dealing with this. There is just so much I can do however because I am terminally ill. My faith is the only thing keeping me going. Thank you again so much. God bless.
@NJGAL
@NJGAL 4 жыл бұрын
@@augustas9844 ••• your post moved me ... I am sorry that you are terminally ill and that during this difficult time your have someone close who's battling addiction 😔 I will include you and your loved ones in my prayers.
@augustas9844
@augustas9844 4 жыл бұрын
NJ GAL - Thank you so much. You have no idea how much this means to me. I know the Lord sent you for me. God bless you!
@chairde
@chairde 5 жыл бұрын
Sin has short term rewards but long term consequences. Mafia gangsters live a high life but the retirement plan is bad. Smokers enjoy the experience from smoking but not the consequences of cancer later on. Alcoholics are the same with drinking but the consequences are devastating to the person and the family.
@chairde
@chairde 5 жыл бұрын
Bad habits are sins. If you smoke until you get cancer then that is a sin. If you over eat until you can't walk then that is a sin.
@eugengolubic2186
@eugengolubic2186 5 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this channel I didn't want to subscribe because it's not "professional apologetics" or anything, but I'm glad I subscribed. Videos are awesome coming from a lay person. I like the meth analogy.
@qubica
@qubica 5 жыл бұрын
Uncanny, this video came out Friday, I didn't view it yet. On Monday I had breakfast with someone I sponsored into the Church and the biggest issue he has with the Faith is....Premarital Sex. Doesn't want to give it up, no how, no way. But he knows he can't go to Confession without purpose to amend, and so he can't receive the Eucharist. He's essentially cutoff from two critical Sacraments. So, I told him THAT was his god, and then I came home and found this video that I've sent to him, and it helped. Thank you Brian for your ministry. You are planting seeds.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. I pray that it helped him!
@markhagan920
@markhagan920 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo Sir A very fine elaboration:: how I long for such a concise and useful sermon from the pulpit, Keep up your very good work.
@phiustin
@phiustin 5 жыл бұрын
You are very timely, Brian. Thank you for this. God bless!
@Juliendemarco
@Juliendemarco 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to use Meth you explained it quite well for someone who has never used it. This video is well done and you really helped me have a better understanding of sin and why it feels good. I was never able to put my foot on it till you now you explained it in a way I was not able to articulate before.
@Mar-wt3di
@Mar-wt3di 4 жыл бұрын
Were you a long term user ?
@workin4alivin585
@workin4alivin585 5 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. It makes perfect sense of my life experiences. Thank you!
@MikeyJMJ
@MikeyJMJ 5 жыл бұрын
I think the almost primitive guilt you feel afterwards is one way of detecting immorality. Sin only feels good in the moment, and it's the same with life in general. As Christians we must look at the bigger picture and what we're seeking at the end of this life.
@peskylisa
@peskylisa 5 жыл бұрын
I love your talks!! I feel better for having listened to this!
@berwynsigns4115
@berwynsigns4115 5 жыл бұрын
With a well-formed conscience, sin doesnt feel good
@spidernymph8964
@spidernymph8964 4 жыл бұрын
@Berwyn Signs I both agree and disagree. We should all strive to get to that point where we hate what is evil, but I think everyone will always struggle with some sort of sin, I don't think you can just become so holy that you can eliminate all seductiveness of sin.* But it's true that we should try to focus on the goodness of God and become holier so that sin won't seem as appealing. *Disclaimer, *maybe* it's possible, but not for most people.
@realmless4193
@realmless4193 4 жыл бұрын
Sin doesn't feel good because God will be speaking to you telling you to stop while you are doing it. The pain of conviction feels worse than the sin feels good, so as a net, sin feels bad, but physically it feels good, and causes great spiritual pain.
@den8863
@den8863 3 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree!
@iadenicole931
@iadenicole931 3 жыл бұрын
So eloquently said. Simply beautiful.
@danielgr.6197
@danielgr.6197 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I would've seen this video earlier in my life. However, it's still good to have heard what you said. I wish certain people in my life would be aware of this too. Thank you very much.
@CorneliaIndoorCyclingVideo
@CorneliaIndoorCyclingVideo 4 жыл бұрын
wow, thank you Brian for thinking this through so precisely and explaining this so well. I never thought about this. It makes so much sense.
@emmawilliams007
@emmawilliams007 4 жыл бұрын
You're such a gift!
@danielpaulus-petrus2357
@danielpaulus-petrus2357 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Definitely helped me understand my sins and how to properly counteract them.
@lesterlong9798
@lesterlong9798 4 жыл бұрын
i'm binge watching your youtubes mighty righteous
@ipso-kk3ft
@ipso-kk3ft 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Brian! This has been helpful, I've been trying to improve my prayer life in this pandemic season.
@TheXone7
@TheXone7 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video Brian! Thanks!!
@linasmarcinkevicius
@linasmarcinkevicius 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! :)
@maxrice6990
@maxrice6990 5 жыл бұрын
awesome video!
@paulrahner4609
@paulrahner4609 5 жыл бұрын
This video is the answer to some of my mind's deeper questions.
@JohnAlbertRigali
@JohnAlbertRigali 5 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting discourse. I’ll ruminate on it, but so far it seems to make sense.
@RG615
@RG615 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Awesome explanation. God Bless!
@lolafiiona7014
@lolafiiona7014 Жыл бұрын
Great video 😊😊
@petroniaskho
@petroniaskho 4 жыл бұрын
Your description of crystal meth is 100% accurate and a very apt analogy to the pleasures of sin.
@st.michaelthearchangel7774
@st.michaelthearchangel7774 4 жыл бұрын
Very insightful.
@JonnySeghezzi
@JonnySeghezzi 2 жыл бұрын
This hit me really hard. My God, have mercy on me.
@marymary1877
@marymary1877 4 жыл бұрын
That was powerful
@MelissaJMJ
@MelissaJMJ 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Cationna
@Cationna 5 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much you've just helped me. The problem is, Devil likes to tell you that - having made those bad choices, having betrayed that initial good in you, having turned away from the Source of Life - you are now incapable of experiencing the true happiness; you are cut off from the real good. That way, even knowing that you're clinging to an illusion and a faint shadow of what you really desire, you believe that this wretched self-manipulation is the best you will ever get. You feel justified in abusing yourself (and often others!) to steal that taste of pleasure and happiness, as long as you can still feel it at least slightly, because you don't believe you will ever be capable of experiencing the fullness of it. This, of course, is a horrible and a prideful lie. It leaves you in the world where Jesus didn't die for you, where He doesn't love or care about you, where He isn't all-powerful. But He did, and does, and is. You are never cut off from Heaven, you are never left alone in your sin. You are not the exception to God's mercy and goodness. You are never condemned for Hell - unless you commit yourself to it.
@ritav7917
@ritav7917 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that's awesome
@templarrain2369
@templarrain2369 5 жыл бұрын
"I have a good brain" Simple Jack Sorry, couldn't resist. Great vid as usual.
@David-fh6rr
@David-fh6rr 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian! This video is excellent! :D
@MathieuLLF
@MathieuLLF 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just as an idea, would it be possible for you to record your videos as podcasts as well? I tend to listen to podcasts more than watch KZfaq videos. I'll definitely keep coming for the videos as well though!
@amare.adonai5464
@amare.adonai5464 5 жыл бұрын
It is difficult living the life of a Christian but we are instructed to deny ourselves and pick up our cross. Love the channel Brian. I also made a channel regarding catholic issues. If anyone has the chance please check out . I think we need more catholic channels out here. Thank you to anyone who checks it out.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s so hard to come by That feeling of peace. This friend of mine said Close your eyes and try A few of these. I thought I was flying like a bird So far up above my feelings But when I looked down I was standing on my knees.” -Jackson Browne
@robertjusic9097
@robertjusic9097 5 жыл бұрын
Because sin is selfish and that feels really good, a good person sleeps the best.
@blindtruth4614
@blindtruth4614 5 жыл бұрын
What the Bible tells you is sin does not have to be selfish at all, so I am unsure where you would get that notion from
@theolewell7535
@theolewell7535 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Ri satisfies our pride
@johnpeters1441
@johnpeters1441 5 жыл бұрын
Concupiscence. this explains it from the Brooklyn side... ( that's a bowling terminology). cool.........🤔🤔🤔
@gatogati2281
@gatogati2281 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Java.
@MojoPin1983
@MojoPin1983 5 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. Please follow this up with another video: Is it Sinful to Eat An Entire Row of Fig Newtons in One Sitting?
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 5 жыл бұрын
You'd have to ask Brian Regan.
@MojoPin1983
@MojoPin1983 5 жыл бұрын
Ha. You got the reference.
@EndTimesHarvest
@EndTimesHarvest 3 жыл бұрын
It's largely because of spiritual blindness. Spiritual blindness makes us extremely short-sighted and prone to seeking short-term self-gratification and pleasure. Spiritual blindness allows one to enjoy the pleasure of sin while committing that sin without thinking about the long-term result. If our eyes were spiritually open, we would be able to see the long-term damage of sin long before we actually commit that sin. But in any case, so many sins are pleasurable because they corrupt something that God truly intended for us to enjoy. Yes, sexual sin can feel so good, but only because God intended for this pleasure to be felt within the sacred union of marriage with one's marriage partner.
@Vezmus1337
@Vezmus1337 4 жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastes 7:4 A wise person thinks a lot about death, while a fool thinks only about having a good time.
@gilsonbicudo
@gilsonbicudo 4 жыл бұрын
Brian, you spoke so fast, I couldn't get the author of the quote.
@kenvee2166
@kenvee2166 5 жыл бұрын
Sin is the misuse of a legitimate gift in most cases. The gift is intended to be pleasurable, it is simply intended to be used in moderation or perhaps within certain prescriptions or parameters for its optimal value to us to be recognized. Addiction to the pleasure the gifts provide, and closing the door to reason and proportion or any prohibitions is when the devil climbs right in the window.
@paxcoder
@paxcoder 4 жыл бұрын
TRIGGER WARNING for addicts. You might want to skip this one, or find something else instead. Basically, he doesn't say much more than that the reason sin feels good is it relies on the good, natural use of our faculties. The "feel good" feeling fades as we are being perverted ourselves. C.S. Lewis is quoted saying choices change us. Either take us towards becoming a hellish creature who hates God, others, and self, or towards a heavenly one. Either madness, horror, loneliness, impotence and eternal loneliness OR joy, peace, knowledge and power.
@TheIgnoredGender
@TheIgnoredGender 5 жыл бұрын
0:34 better*
@avimehenwal
@avimehenwal 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow, by the time I reached the end of the video I felt like it was jesus 101 pep talking
@505Lucky7
@505Lucky7 5 жыл бұрын
Sin is not only the pursuit of desire.
@505Lucky7
@505Lucky7 5 жыл бұрын
@David Russell like a moth to a flame?
@ricardoheredia7307
@ricardoheredia7307 5 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@tinman1955
@tinman1955 4 жыл бұрын
If sin wasn't fun there'd be no sinners.
@zappyliving5365
@zappyliving5365 4 жыл бұрын
Chasing the extreme high is called Chasing the Dragon! 🐲that you will never ever catch because it is an empty promise. It only takes the will and faith in God to turn away from the empty promises of the Evil. And Hope for the Promise that every sacrifice and struggle to turn away from evil rewards us of eternal happiness. We are made for Good and choose the Good but because of the Fall of Man, Original Sin... we have become lost as to know what is the Greater Good, and that is why Jesus came to leave us footprints that we can follow, through the Sacraments and through the Catholic Church. There is no other way for True Happiness other than the way of God's Love through the cross.
@TBOOYY
@TBOOYY 4 жыл бұрын
I destroyed my gratitude from addiction
@Fr_Kim_Rainbow
@Fr_Kim_Rainbow 5 жыл бұрын
There will be narrow gate to enter
@timothyfreeman97
@timothyfreeman97 4 жыл бұрын
There will be a BTS gate, a WJSN Cosmic Girls gate, and a kimchi gate.
@tinkerinjones6604
@tinkerinjones6604 3 жыл бұрын
Because that is the way it was designed...sin is attractive because they feel good, that is Satan's trap...physically rejecting sin for God, is the challenge
@georgeschlaline6057
@georgeschlaline6057 6 ай бұрын
Nathan Wheeler's younger brother
@jackensonelissaint4778
@jackensonelissaint4778 3 жыл бұрын
Why does sinning feel so fucking good I do it everyday, I hate it but I can’t control it.
@gigglegrl7405
@gigglegrl7405 5 жыл бұрын
Different topic, but my sins are often the result of avoiding pain and of cowardice. You tell a lie because you don't want have to face getting yelled at, etc.
@Falco2Itachi
@Falco2Itachi 4 жыл бұрын
Please don't feel like a sinner only because you stay safe.
@gigglegrl7405
@gigglegrl7405 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right. Also, sometimes it is my own unwillingness to own up to my own mistakes.
@elijahsherwood2901
@elijahsherwood2901 Жыл бұрын
Sin doesn't feel Good sin=death. Sin is death
@wandererofclouds
@wandererofclouds 5 жыл бұрын
Why does Sin feel so good? Shrek: Good question.
@klover7890
@klover7890 3 жыл бұрын
Im muslim but i loved it
@markwilkie7633
@markwilkie7633 5 жыл бұрын
How does his description apply to gossip?
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 жыл бұрын
20 years ago I read a study on gossip conducted by a secular university psychology department. For the study, they classified every instance of talking about someone else as "gossip" -- including praise. They found that gossip is used as social currency, and that gossipers make decisions about with whom they'll share gossip, about whom they'll gossip, and when they'll gossip. It's similar to gambling, because it can lead to a perceived higher social status...but it can also fail if the gossiper gossips about the wrong person to the wrong person, or shares the wrong information. So the feedback is basically social, with the possibility of bringing power and prestige. Even if it fails, the hope remains, and habitual gossipers will continue until they "shake out" into their own cliques, hoping to attain higher status within the clique. Of course we know that some fail miserably and end up alone, but that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the study.
@markwilkie7633
@markwilkie7633 5 жыл бұрын
KA Fleury interesting, but how does gossip have a “good application” as the video is arguing that sinful acts are actually good ones done in the wrong circumstances...ie sex. Like, where is the “good” ever in gossip?
@spidernymph8964
@spidernymph8964 4 жыл бұрын
@@markwilkie7633 The only way I can come up with off the top of my head is that people gossip to feel better about themselves and feeling good about oneself isn't always a bad thing/maybe can sometimes be good in the right context?
@exnihilo8933
@exnihilo8933 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in the notion of sin. Sin describes negative behavior, and I do agree it is bad behavior. But I feel about that behavior the same as I would arsenic when used unwisely. It is a feature of the world, and should be handled carefully. The same with other relative goods.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 4 жыл бұрын
Sin is the behaviour. It is the choice. When you reference arsenic used "unwisely" or "carefully" you're admitting that there is a good/bad use of it. That's the moral dimension.
@exnihilo8933
@exnihilo8933 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrianHoldsworth There is good and bad use of it, I just don't attach guilt to a given behavior the way religious believers do. I see "sin" or "bad behavior" as something akin to pulling the wrong lever in a laboratory. I don't associate it with feelings of unworthiness, guilt, etc. Thus I don't call it sin. Arsenic kills. That is a consequence of it being utlized. "Sin" can kill, that is a consequence of bad behavior. But I don't dwell on it.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 4 жыл бұрын
@@exnihilo8933 If someone is too lazy to get up and make a meal for themselves are they worthy of a meal? The consequence of that laziness is not eating and is a measure of the worth of their choices. Worthiness is not a feeling but a question of justice. You seem to be bandying about with terms that are often associated with religion but not actually grounded in any particular doctrine. I'm not hear to defend vague notions of religious feelings. I'm defending that there is an objective right and wrong and sin is the word Christianity fixes to that which is wrong which you've conceded in several ways.
@exnihilo8933
@exnihilo8933 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrianHoldsworth I do believe that, from a purely practical standpoint, concepts of “worthiness” and “justice” are useful and legitimate. Just as are standards for behavior. What religion does however is blow them out of proportion and make them into hyper-real categories. That is in essence what I think sin is: something that is conceptually off the rails and out of proportion to the ethical situation we find ourselves in. Is there objective right and wrong? Certainly from a practical standpoint there is, but no more than that. Should we have standards? Certainly: anarchy would be loosed without it. Can we legitimately blame people for not owning up to certain standards? I think so, when they are aware they have done wrong at least. But again, the stigma of “sin” is too much. I think we should appeal rather to human beings’ own dignity and inherent self-worth to teach them about virtue: that because they ARE worthy they should act in a manner which is commensurate with their worth. Not beat them into powder over the terrible things they’ve done.
@samthesnowman666
@samthesnowman666 4 жыл бұрын
xD
@MrLalochifrin
@MrLalochifrin 5 жыл бұрын
seven times better than sex seems good.
@David-lu4gq
@David-lu4gq 5 жыл бұрын
One salty boi dislikes this.
@swaggerlagger6827
@swaggerlagger6827 5 жыл бұрын
I hate sin.. but everybody has a little sin in them.
@berwynsigns4115
@berwynsigns4115 5 жыл бұрын
On the contrary. What about the Immaculate Virgin Mary?
@jamesmc04
@jamesmc04 4 жыл бұрын
The same lesson is taught outside by Catholicism. FWIW, it is not easy to read the Bible, and avoid all mention of sin. To put it mildly. The scandals and all that is connected with them - the cover-ups, the lies, the stalling, the failure to recognise that there was a (gigantic & many-sided) problem - make it *really* difficult to take seriously what the clergy say about sin. Hypocrisy and shamelessness are not Gifts of the Holy Spirit - so on what basis can these criminals, predators, and their tolerators and enablers, tell us laity how to behave ? Let them remove the forests from their own eyes, before trying to remove the splinters from ours. No apology is needed for mentioning these evils, because they are going to make the CC unbelievable and vomit-inducing, until the CC’s hierarchy stops treating this re-Crucifixion of Christ in His little ones as though it were “business as usual”. This horror could be a moment of grace and conversion - but the hard-hearted impenitence of the clergy and religious and the hierarchy threatens to abort that possibility. Irish religious who make an agreement with the Irish government that exempts them even from being sued are certainly not modelling the graces of contrition and penance: “In February 2002, 18 religious institutes agreed to provide more than €128 million in compensation to the victims of child abuse. Most of the money was raised from church property transfers to the State. The agreement stipulated that all those who accepted the monetary settlements had to waive their right to sue both the church and the government. The identities of the abusers was also to be kept secret.” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_in_Ireland Only the CC could get away with such shameless behaviour.
@claudiaf.2236
@claudiaf.2236 4 жыл бұрын
James Cameron: It is better not to look so much on the church, but on your own relationship with Jesus Christ. It is the Holy Spirit that helps you to remember the commandments. The CC has a problem, because they prevent priests to get married. The celibate is not biblical, and should be made free for priests to choose. Many disciples (Jews were mostly married) and Peter himself was married. You can only pray for your church and their leaders.
@AtticTapes14
@AtticTapes14 4 жыл бұрын
Porn is like a drug nowadays. I wish internet porn gets destroyed 100% immediately
@BernardS4
@BernardS4 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you have the loud, annoying background music?
@wvmontani
@wvmontani 4 жыл бұрын
If Jesus died for our sins, why is sinning still even an issue? His death should have us covered. I should be able to do whatever I want.
@levisando
@levisando 4 жыл бұрын
That's making the assumption that we aren't required to do anything for the forgiveness of our sins, like repenting and asking for forgiveness.
@wvmontani
@wvmontani 4 жыл бұрын
@@levisando Where does it say we have to?
@levisando
@levisando 4 жыл бұрын
@@wvmontani Where does what say we have to?
@Vezmus1337
@Vezmus1337 4 жыл бұрын
1 John 3:6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
@marcokite
@marcokite 4 жыл бұрын
@@wvmontani - read the New Testament, it's all over it - we must change our lives
@joehinojosa8030
@joehinojosa8030 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't we ASSUMING We have THE RIGHT to toss the word " sin" around and LABEL it?
@teenherofilms
@teenherofilms 4 жыл бұрын
Notice how people who believe in organized religion cannot just get on with their lives, they are obsessed with "sin". Your sin, my sin, original sin. Poor old "God", he is so busy keeping track of althe sins that he hardly has time for anything else
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 4 жыл бұрын
That isn't unique to religious people. We now have outrage and "cancel" culture. We have political correctness that arbitrarily applies excessive consequence on anyone that doesn't subscribe to the fashionable thought of the day. The difference is, that in some religions, like Catholicism, there is a consistent application of right and wrong. It's known by all, it doesn't change, and it isn't selectively applied.
@Mistress_Angelica777
@Mistress_Angelica777 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, probably because sin is a bunk concept designed to make us feel bad for being human.
@lucasperez7149
@lucasperez7149 5 жыл бұрын
Or maybe all the things that feel good aren’t the best for you. Whatever you may believe, doing something solely for pleasure or indulgence will just lead you down a bad path (unless you simply just forget about morality and “live life to the fullest” as many atheists advocate for). Whatever you may choose, just realize that one thing that is certain in life is that there are consequences for every action you make.
@Mistress_Angelica777
@Mistress_Angelica777 5 жыл бұрын
Lucas Perez That’s pretty much just common sense. Plus morality is entirely subjective.
@lucasperez7149
@lucasperez7149 5 жыл бұрын
MistressAngelica1416 How is it subjective? If you said there was a lot of gray area, then I would understand, but the concept of morality is that there is right and wrong. The only way I can see that it might appear subjective is if you are on the right or wrong side of it, but then that means it’s not subjective.
@lucasperez7149
@lucasperez7149 5 жыл бұрын
Volkstum The concept of sin is to remind us what is right and what is wrong. People who live without believing in sin don’t have an initial moral compass. Their sense of right and wrong is imitated from people who do believe in sin.
@lucasperez7149
@lucasperez7149 5 жыл бұрын
Volkstum Sorry I should’ve made myself clearer. When I said “sin” I wasn’t just referring to the Christian sense. Sin is a concept that can be found in every religion throughout time. So as those ancient people were faithful to some god or gods, than they did have a moral compass to follow. When I said “those who don’t believe in sin” I was referring to people who are unfaithful. Now these people can have a sense of right and wrong, but these beliefs were just imitated from the faithful. Look at it this way, the United States was a country that was founded on Christian values, which is why many of the people Christian or not, agree on certain Christian principles such as loving thy neighbor and so forth. The importance of sin in our society cannot be overstated, it’s a part of your life more than you would think.
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