The one sayian that don’t take chances and have a embarrassing moment of pride 😂 Cough* goku, vegeta, gohan!

Trunks wouldn’t know he could to stop it

To be fair, if we assume the same thing happened with Trunks trying to stop Cell from becoming perfect after absorbing 18, Trunks probably couldn’t stop Cold from transforming. Trunks, despite being stronger than Semi Perfect Cell, was unable to stop him from becoming Perfect. Same thing could apply with King Cold transforming into his hypothetical final form.

​@@ultimate_capper3643The reason he couldn't stop semi perfect cell from absorbing 18 was because of Vegeta.

@@rsync9490 The scenario you talked about happened before the scenario I was describing in my original comment. Yes, Vegeta did initially prevent Trunks from stopping Cell, but Trunks blasted him away and went back to stopping Cell. However, Cell used a Solar Flare and while Trunks was stunned, he absorbed 18. After Trunks recovered, he tried attacking Cell, but to no avail.

Yea I believe he just an idiot king and thought Trunk's sword that strong

you're absolutely correct. to King Cold Trunks is a "lowly monkey" after all and was very arrogant and very ignorant when it came to their power gap. to King Cold, there is no way a Saiyan would have such power. only Frieza feared it and rightly so especially when he feared that a super Saiyan could eventually become a god and what greater powers could be beyond it, after all he feared that a super Saiyan god could be on Beerus' level or above it. King Cold on the other hand was just an ignorant mf who underestimated Trunks and let himself become arrogant and has an obvious superiority complex and a lot of racism towards Saiyans

He thought it was the Z sword.

@@SCHMALLZZZ probably

​@@SCHMALLZZZtrunks sword definitely is better than z sword

Trunks would still one shot him lol

​@@lancekemal8989not the argument this comment is making, bud

@@itsRhodi There is no argument. King Cold has no transformations and this is a fact not an opinion. It is nice to have fun with with it and pretend that's not the case it's not a serious theory. Trunks stomped King Cold and he would stomp King Cold any day of the week

I mean, if Cold just stayed in his 2nd form, he's still stronger than 99% of the universe. Personally, I think I'd be Chilling in the 2nd form anyway. 1st and 3rd forms look lame/too short, and being in 4th form made you too strong for everyday life. 2nd is the most optimal.

​@@lancekemal8989You do not have an adult brain: see, writers say what happens. If they wish, King Cold could be Captain Jack Sparrow.

I mean it is a magical artifact. I know it's not Canon, but technically got the sword from Tapion lol.

Not entirely unreasonable when you frame it that way. Maybe he figured it was just a sword that can cut through anything.

King Cold is an arrogant and ignorant being who's racism and superiority complex made him assume no Saiyan could ever best him without some cheap trick like a magic sword

@@fangslore9988 Somewhat true, Kold did look down on them, though up to that point in time there was absolutely no president for him to think a saiyan could be that strong barring some old obscure legend. I'd call his attitude more akin to "Speciesism" than racism, but regardless, such attitudes toward a species like the Saiyans who themselves had an equally massive superiority complex and wanted to conquer, enslave and drown the the galaxy in blood is basically just the pot insulting the kettle. Frieza and Kold got what they deserved, and so did the Saiyans. Both sides were rotten to the core, the saiyans simply drew the short straw.. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Frieza or Kold wiped out their own species for being inferior to themselves since both of them were asexually reproducing unnaturally powerful mutant off-shoots of their own kind.

@@dreadrath *Cold but you are correct. there was never any way for King Cold to even consider this warrior race a true threat, none of them even came close to rivaling his true power or even his first form if he ever chose to assume it, and the whole idea of a super Saiyan to him was little more than just a legend. none existed and none would ever exist as far as he was concerned as to him it was little more than a legend concocted by primitives and only Frieza truly feared the legends. but Frieza did get his just deserts but he back in black

Yes, but you're overlooking the fact that this is obviously before either Majin Buu or Beerus were even thought of as concepts in Toriyama's mind.

I don’t think that you could use characters that were thought up later in the story and apply past statements to them as if they’ve always existed. By this logic Vegeta should be stronger than anyone because he claimed he was in the saiyan saga, despite the fact that he was basically Frieza’s b*tch.

Toriyama wasn't aware of Majin Buu or even Cell at that time, because when he was making Dragon Ball, he mostly made the story up as he went along, only planning certain things a couple chapters ahead of time, and the Android/Cell Saga was notoriously rife with editorial meddling. And Beerus wasn't even a notion until Dragon Ball's original run had been over for more than fifteen years.

@@jruler93 Cool, but we are talking about IN UNIVERSE, NOT REAL WORLD SHENANIGANS

Cold doesn’t correct him because Freeza>King Cold and at the time Freeza was the strongest in the universe bar Goku (and as they master found out Trunks). It’s not that hard.

Bingo, but that would require people to actually do research, while this has been explained before

thats not how it works, their final form isn't a power up stage its their original form, the other forms are restraint forms to power down, for frieza's race its reverse to saiyans

​@@fangslore9988 The original commenter didn't contradict that, he said they ALSO have power up forms proven by golden and black frieza

@@DioLT true though some have argued about it LMAO in the end Toriyama just wanted Cold and Frieza to finally be killed without them being a credible threat to the android and cell arc but also in the Manga it is never stated King Cold was weaker than Frieza

@@fangslore9988 I don't really know, I was just pointing out what they were saying. I always thought King Cold was stronger because Frieza mentions that he was the only one able to hurt him, but just didn't get how strong Trunks was and poof no one should care about that anymore xD power levels in anime in general are so inconsistent I stopped caring about it long ago

Maybe but he's the 2nd weakest member of his race canon or non canon. At least out of the named members

honestly? i’m convinced the form we see him in is his last and only form. From what we saw, members of Frieza's race have a different number of transformations, and the ones they create are customizable, (notably, with training Frieza developed evolutions, which had colors of his choice, endorsing the fact they got the ability to choose how their forms will look). Although the rest of characters, cooler included are not canon, they all understood the principle that they didn’t necessarily have the same forms as Frieza. With Cooler having only his base and his transformation.

frieza did say he made those forms to handle his own immense power, if broly could do that i think vegeta (the king) wouldn’t have tried to murder the planet-busting threat that would’ve destroyed vegeta (the planet) and in the process killing vegeta (the king) and vegeta (the prince)

@@spotty530 They create form of reduction ,Cooler trained to be able to use his base form constantly (To like ,control his energy) ,he even managed to make a form of augmentation ,their base form always have this roundy polished shape ,here Cold is in probably in a reduction form too (Being also older ,he can probably control his energy better than Frieza due to more experience thus he wouldn't need to use a 3rd reduction form + in his race the older they get ,the more powerful they become ,on top of them already having immense power compared to other lifeform ,of course they don't bother training like Frieza did in Super) . And there was this interview were someone asked Toriyama how strong would Cold be in his Final Form 100% ,he responded that he would as strong as the C-18 and C-17 ,thanks to that ,you can kinda make an hypothesis on their strength (C-18/C-17/Piccolo fused with Kami) in units . The last 2 official power level we ever got were Frieza Final Form 100% (At 120 000 000) and Goku SSJ1 (At 150 000 000) , after that when Frieza and Cold got to Earth ,the Z-Fighter assumed Frieza to be twice stronger and that there was a comparable power next to him (So we can assume Cold at 240 000 000) so multiply by 1,5 for a Cold in the 1st Form of Reduction (360 000 000) then in his Final Form 50% (14,12 Billions) and at 100% (28 235 304 000/28,24 Billions) (Well the Android possess this fabulous ability of having infinite energy ,so their strength can be considered even higher than that)

Lol, I think Vegeta also said he was the strongest, back during the Saiyan saga… but I don’t recall if that’s in the manga too or just English dub anime.

​@@lovesgibsonthe villains say a lot of things, king piccolo said he was going to take over the universe, cell said he could make a spirit bomb, Majin Buu told them he was going to turn them into chocolate and eat them, sometimes villains say things that they can't prove

⁠@@rockk9753then come this green haired madman speaking like a caveman and making loud noises. The heck were all these villains thinking when they talk?

@@dokidoki5850 most of them are probably thinking "oh yeah look at me I'm so edgy and evil", "Broly was most likely thinking"wahraaharhaharhghgahghaa"

At one point even Cell was called a God of Destruction (I'm not sure about the manga though since it was just in the anime title). I don't think many claims are that reliable.

or he was so incompetently ignorant and couldn’t understand why a power multiplier was dangerous, did cold even make the empire himself

grossly so after all Trunks is a "lowly monkey" and in his dealings Saiyans have never been a threat or even close to his power. King Cold also values appearances since his armour was as regal as it could be without sacrificing functionality being it was gold trimmed and with a luxurious cape with gold fasteners, so his second form gave him an imposing presence

true, also the transformations literally take forever (going by how long it takes Frieza to transform in the anime). Cooler pretty much just gambled on the fact that the sword was how he was beating Frieza. Cost him his life though.

@@ishowslow5044 King Cold would never have survived his attempt at transforming plus he underestimated Trunks assuming the source of his power was the sword. King Cold was both Ignorant and arrogant

@@fangslore9988 Pretty much

@@ishowslow5044 King Cold dug his own grave and pretty much paid the hangman to take his life when fighting trunks as well as hired the reaper to take his soul to hell with the sheer stupidity he possessed

its also likely Toriyama didn't want a frieza saga 2.0, he probably wanted frieza and Cold to be dusted but the easy explenation was he simply assumed Trunks had a magic sword and without it a lowly monkey could never beat him even in his second form

Yes he did but just because he did sometimes doesn’t mean you can stick that logic here. Cold was already in his final / natural form. Freiza created forms cause he couldn’t control his power. That’s not something every member of his race does ( cooler isn’t canon but even he wasn’t doin that ). Cold was weaker then frieza it’s stated in all guides, if he could transform he would have after seeing someone stronger then him get turned to butter

@@0vern9K please note that Toriyama when talking about Frieza said that Frieza's final form was his people's original form and that the previous transformations were all restraint forms to limit his power logic dictates that this extends to King Cold as well, and its also worth pointing out in the Manga Frieza never said he was stronger than his father, and there's in inconsistency in the anime english dub which is the only place its stated that King Cold's power was equal to frieza's when the Z-fighters sensed their approach remember the anime you watch on screen isn't canon it is its own continuity. plus what Toriyama said about frieza's transformations and knowing that King Cold was only in his 2nd form and not his original form, its likely King Cold was much more powerful then frieza. King Cold also didn't transform because he underestimated Trunks and it was confirmed that King Cold assumed Trunks wielded the Z-sword which King Cold knew of and knew that the legends say it could cut anything in the universe including the gods (though the legend is untrue)

@@fangslore9988 Freiza and cold are mutants even to their race of own people. Meaning they have completely different genes then others. There gonna differ from other members of their people. Which will effect appearance There quite literally a new species from their people

@@fangslore9988 also, that’s the English dub. The z fighters don’t state that no where in the Jap sub. We all know the Japanese sub is the most accurate of any anime that’s just how it works. And naw it’s still cannon to the manga…

You mean hot

It's such a hideous design. I don't know why people over-exaggerate Cold's muscularity in his final form. Truth is, his physique would be similar to Cooler's or Freeza's. The frost demons don't have strong abdominal muscles like that.

I mean, other than the EXTREMELY obvious answer of 'Goku and Vegeta know better than to let a frieza family member transform'. Trunks just has no chill and wouldn't let them sit there and power up regardless.

@@jtnachos16 well Freiza tansfromations are not like normal ones. He does not get to his base form until his final form so you really cant stop him from going into it. The lower forms are just mask. Cold could just put up a ki barror like cell while his body changes and trunks wold not get through. If he really could transform trunks gave him penty of time to do it. Anyway with the sword thing.

@@JJJJ-he8bz That sure sounds like a lot of headcanon there, given Frieza is SHOWN taking time to transform during Namek saga. As well as assuming he could 'just put up a ki barrier'. The only time I remember ever seeing 'ki barriers' are from Gero's androids, SPECIFICALLY those with the infinite engines. Which CELL didn't have until after absorbing 17. That's not an option for King Cold. It is entirely likely that even if he COULD and INTENDED to transform, he wouldn't be given the time to. Do keep in mind, Future timeline Goku killed Frieza and King cold, as Trunk's changes to timeline didn't occur until AFTER King Cold accompanying Frieza to earth was locked in. This implies that either King Cold magically found a sword to give to Goku so he could claim it was magic, or that he didn't get a chance to transform there either. Or alternatively, that he couldn't transform. Meanwhile EVERY member of Frieza's race, both in canon sources and non, has been able to transform. A lot more evidence on hand for 'King Cold just didn't consider it until it was too late'.

@@jtnachos16 And what the guy said in the video, Cold being weaker also makes much more sense. But I disagree with you. Goku and Vegeta would, 1000%, let Cold reach his final form. Just look at Freeza and Cell. Trunks, however, wouldn't.

@@gustavolopes5094 Uh, no. Goku wouldn't. Not after the experience with Frieza. VEGETA, on the other hand, absolutely would. Goku let Frieza power up further for the same reason Gohan played around with Cell instead of just wiping him out. They were enraged and not thinking, although in both cases their rage ran cold, which is arguably MORE dangerous.

According to logic, if his brother has one more stage of transformation than him, then it is unlikely that his father will only stay in the second stage of transformation.

frieza's race transform in reverse, their transformations are to unlock their full power, King Cold's form is a restrained form, and its because of how small they are in their final form and King Cold didn't want to be smaller than his men and he probably felt like it was a fluke that goku bested frieza so he never really considered to transform to his maximum power when fighting Trunks, King cold didn't have a scouter and couldn't sense ki so he didn't take advantage of trunks fighting frieza to transform out of sheer ignorance. and why he tried to use trunk's sword was a display of arrogance as he thought the only way trunks could beat frieza was with the sword and assumed it was magical or had a power boosting effect and was curious but his arrogance got in the way

@@fangslore9988what in the head canon? Cold COULDN’T transform. Freeza said multiple times in front of Cold he was stronger than him with no protest from Cold himself. Freeza stated to that his transformations were unique to him because he suppressed his power by choice. Cold had nothing in canon to even suggest he could transform. Not even in non canon before fan theories started running wild. This is like a random guy coming up with something like Pan is really the LSSJ and it spreading and gaining traction with no evidence.

@@teeboz6237 doesn't mean King Cold couldn't transform it just meant in their final forms at maximum power they were not equal in strength. in their final form King cold could be as strong as base final form frieza or even slightly weaker then frieza, remember King Cold was arrogant, ignorant and had a superiority complex, he thought Frieza's defeat was a fluke he didn't understand the SSJ power in the least nor understand its power level and potential. he assumed Trunks was a lot weaker than he was because he thought the only way trunks could win was with that sword so by taking the sword he showed his ignorance of Trunk's power and arrogance to assume he was naturally stronger. when Trunks caught the sword King Cold realized that Trunks was not going to let him transform, fight back or even back down, he understood saiyans and more importantly he realized he was going to die no matter the choice he took next. could King Cold transform, based on their race and the final form of their race and what it looks like, yes he could absolutly transform to his people's final form like frieza did, why didn't he, well take a look at his attire even though he had his species natural biosuit he chose to wore armour over top that was black and gold trim, he also wore a cape so based on his attire appearances was a very big deal for King Cold, and his final form being smaller, it appeared he wanted to be larger then his men. also you forget that transforming for Frieza's people is not fast like a Supersaiyan transformation Friza's species when transforming they had to reshape their anatomy as well as use their ki to break apart their biosuits and then regrow it with each transformation and it looks painful as frieza's own transformations looked painful for frieza also, Frieza saying he was stronger than his father, we cannot take Frieza's word for it alone, for all we know King Cold could have led Frieza on to belive that as a way to spoil his son, there is no definitive proof but what is proven by King Cold's armour is that the former emperor and father of frieza absolutly cared about his appearence. frieza even wanted to be taller and in resurrection F frieza was asked why didn't he transform back to his second form to be taller. its likely King Cold at some point decided to transform to his second form for similar reasons. in a nutshell King Cold could transform considering that likely frieza's final form is probably his people's original form with variations being in colour and design of their bio armour however King Cold likley prefered the form he had because of its intimidating size and that prior to facing trunks he had no reason to transform and when he did face trunks he underestimated Trunk's powerand assumed Trunks only won because of his sword

@@fangslore9988you’re using the word “could” an awful lot. Also a lot of unintentionally funny head canon. Why not just say where it’s stated or confirmed officially he could? Or, because that doesn’t exist, just stop arguing? You’re the king of head canon though 😂😂😂😂😂 Official sources or shh

maybe he is already in his final form.

@@SuCKeRPunCH187 he might be, but considering dbz and super with frost, he’s probably in his 2nd form

agreed, as it would be biologically consistent

I'm betting Cold's 2nd form *is* his final form. Members of the Frieza race don't necessarily have to have the same amount of forms each. Frieza and Cold are mutants after all, probably Frost is one too.

@@DamonDraven all evidence would suggest otherwise its a restraint form based on the idea that all the restraint forms are specifically a feature of their biology similar to how goku and the other saiyans on earth all have the same transformations except the god ones, its biological since frieza's final form is the original form of their entire race, Frieza and Cold being mutants only means that they were born with massive amounts of ki compared to possible members of their race elsewhere in the galaxy. just like how Broly is technically a Saiyan mutant

Totally agree on the intimidation factor. The video was getting a bit bloated with speculation so I left this out, but Freeza's henchman Kikono suggests he should use his second form to look taller. This implies that Cold may have used similar reasoning back in the day. It literally makes no difference which form he's in when the next highest power level is ~120,000 range, so might as well pick the form you prefer the look of.

ho he could still transform but he was arrogant and ignorant, he has suffered no rivals and each of the transformations other than golden aren't power ups they transform in reverse, the final form is the original form and they transformed to restrain and power down. King cold was underutilized and never got to fight so its likely he simply underestimated trunks and his power in universe where out of universe Toriyama didn't want a frieza saga 2.0 since it was the start of the android and cell arc so he needed to quickly tie off loose ends that were cell and King Cold

This is what I believe as well. There is no reason to believe he has another form, what we see IS his final form. Simple as that.

@@Bingo_the_Pug I think there's even less reason to believe he doesn't have another form. Both Frost and Cooler have final forms similar to Frieza, so why wouldn't his own father?

Because sons are usually superior to their dads. And cold was an arrogant fool. It's not like frieza ever trained. All he did was suppress his power and divide it over his forms. Cold clearly didn't care to do that ​@@davisbowe8668

@@davisbowe8668cooler isn’t canon and frost is frieza’s doppleganger none of this proves cold can transform.

What interview are you referring to? The only interview I've seen (linked in description and visible at 0:33) indicates they are both mutants, and that Freeza inherited his traits from his father.

@@UchihaTobito its the same interview. It said he inherited his mutation from cold not that cold benefits from the mutation as well.

Every party needs a pooper that's why they invited you

kinda like how Vegeta was the strongest before Freeza was brought up

"Frieza is in his 50% form but that doesn't mean he is anywhere close to 50%, " That doesn't make sense but Frieza's was using half of his raised power so his cybernetics stay on.

That's not accurate or true at all. Akira never made no such comment. Frieza's Final Form is his TRUE form, the one he was born in. Even being a mutant (which for the record both Frieza and Cold are, which was stated by AT, and it was meant in terms of power but NOT biology), his biology would not be so fundamentally different from his father's. It's completely insane to believe Frieza is unique in ability amongst his species, as opposed to doing nothing but showcasing them. Even if you took that train of thought as truth, Cold would still have to have AT LEAST one transfomation in his pocket, a form that looks very similar to Frieza's final form.

I'd believe that. A thought that went in my mind is the reason that King Cold can't go into forms like Frieza is because he's already in his final form. Frieza just further evolved as he grew up having superior forms compared to his father.

He literally can

@@seamus8695give me some official proof and not fan theories or unofficial made up things that were never said. This will be good 😂😂😂 Go on.

@@teeboz6237pretty sure frieza was born in his final form he just uses first second and third to limit his power do to stamina issues frieza’s race can be weird at times king cold is just a plot device I guess

@@Tyvonus_Scarbackconsidering dbz writing, this is the only right answer

Just because he didn't doesn't mean he couldn't.

Frieza was born in his fourth transformation. Technically that is base Frieza.

@@Gojira3445 yeah but i mean they can manipulate what is their base form

Frieza stated that his Final form is his true form when he first transformed into it. This is canon throughout all Dragonball media from the manga to anime to the games. While all sub forms don't have to be canon to all members of his race, there is no doubt Cold has AT LEAST one greater form than what he has now.