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"Not even for a split second" Angry pasta noises

Would love to know how the "certain" team did that...

Sf90 in the split second is brilliant.

There’s nothing I’ve ever wanted more than a video on how Ferrari subverted the fuel flow regulations

Yes, please give us the "Ferrari cheated this way" video, CB!

Yes please it would be interesting to see how a "certain team" managed to find a way around the fuel flow limit.

The fact that you subtitle these videos properly doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated.

"not even for a split second" FIA: we don't do that here

Imagine having a fuel flow limit... This post was posted by Scuderia Ferrari.

Ferrari: *heavy sweating*

Why don’t you do a video on how to exceed fuel limits under 2021 regulations? -Not a Ferrari engineer *wink wink

Personally I think allowing mega-rich mix would improve tactical viability. Sure you could have the stalemate suggested, but you could also have drivers feigning rich mix or wearing through tires and forcing the opponent into wasting fuel to gain a benefit later in the race. The defender doesn't know when rich mix is going to be used so he either has to overuse his fuel or he will eventually get caught out by it. Ultimately there will be a lot more mind games. No competitive e-sports are ever as simple as "the opponent does x so we mirror them, forever stalemate" - there is always some degree of unknown and some delayed reaction times ruining that mentality. There's no reason to think F1 will be any different. Plus there are more than 2 cars, if you've burnt all your fuel you get overtaken by multiple cars later in the race. Hardly a tactical win even if you keep the position. The prediction on saving fuel early doesn't seem to fit either. Historically teams have done the polar opposite as fuel gives a weight penalty carried throughout the race. With tire wear such an extreme focus of F1 compared to decades past, and high fuel loads wearing tires more than lower fuel loads, its a safe assumption that the default strategy won't be to sit on a massive weight of fuel for 75% of the race. This just seems like a bunch of simplistic and frankly rushed tactical arguments to claim that fuel limits are more fun to watch. It seems like you started with the conclusion and are looking for arguments to support fuel limits rather than looking at the evidence then finding a conclusion. Also "different cars at different speeds" seems to be argued as a negative here. Isn't that the goal of a lot of F1. Forcing tire strategy, adding DRS, it all seems to be oriented to having different cars at different speeds. Or in other words, more overtaking. I don't see why its constantly being pushed as a problem in this video.

2:29 Haha, that split-second Ferrari.

Would love to know how this "certain" team got away with subverting fuel flow rates

I don't care, if it's called 'megamode', I'll allow it.

Great video as always! I definitely want a video on how "some team" "allegedly" managed to get over the fuel flow limit. :)

Think you've got it back to front at 7:25 - fuel is heavy, you go high burn at the start, run your fuel down, then spend longer coasting when you're lighter and faster anyway.

Ah the golden times where you could just let it flow like a team did.

Gave the video a like at the "Split Second" mark !!

I just want to know how chuffed you were when realized the air intake bobbing up and down is the perfect way to show the engine is on. I'm not kidding, I would feel pretty good about it.

Given not even the FIA are prepared to talk about what that "certain team" got up to. I would love to know.

You’ve just been strolled

I would love to see a video from you on a "certain team" sidestepping the fuel flow regs. Would be great to look at. Love your content as always

in the F1 games I always try to get the amount of fuel to go full beans most of the race (not rich mix all the time but a bit in reserve) and always try to go more than less pit stops, to maximize my own enjoyment, ofcourse some circuits are set on one stop unfortunately

Did wonder this, swear you read people’s minds sometimes

7:00 i think it would be the other way around; go full beans at the start for track position and burning fuel weight so you run lighter for the rest of the race while you conserve

Quite interested in knowing how the 'certain team' subverted the fuel flow rate

Def want that certain team video! Great work as always

Yes would love to know how "certain" split second team does it.

Great video 👍🏻 Would love to see a video on the Ferrari fuel flow saga too

I really enjoy Indycar's refueling as it allows for them to only carry 35kilos of fuel at a time and push harder for longer on the tires. Personally, pitstop drama from fuel rig malfunctions and trying to pass through pitstops is very entertaining to me and I think fire safety technology has come a long way making it much safer than before. Though with how many people there are in an F1 pitbox there's a lot more safety concern with fire

Yet again, excellent, technical content with proper science, Stuart...

what a brilliant and wonderfully concise video. bravo.

Yes, I personally would like a primer about said certain team and subverting flow rates.

When that chart levelled out at the end, you realize how much of a masterclass is your animation and demonstration. As always, thank you for the content and keep it up. Cheers.

Throwing some shade on a certain red horse. I like it! Another!

I started watching F1 at the start of this season and find your content really informative. Really helps me understand the sport better, thanks!

I was of the opinion that cars should have no maximum fuel flow rate and teams should be given much less fuel to begin with, but this video has changed my mind. Fuel flow is fine how it is. Something else regarding this, however is that I think the team should be able to control the cars engine and ers modes. It would allow the drivers to just concentrate on driving and not have to be guided through how to control their own car. Give the drivers an override button so that team orders aren't 100% enforced. I think the racing would benefit from this.

7:00 I'm quite sure all teams/cars are going to use as much fuel as they can at the start when everybody is really close and overtaking matters. Then have a lighter car for the rest of the race.

Yes!!!!!! please a video on the fuel flow controversey

Great video as always. And yes, I would like the story of how a certain team subverted the fuel flow rules.

We want everything you have!

Great to see you include FE a bit more in your videos!

Great video, Stuart! I agree about limiting the fuel flow, although I believe F1 would benefit from a ruge where all teams must start the race with full tank, 110 kg, no matter what circuit they’re racing on. And please, make the video about the Ferrari trick. Cheers

Yes, I want to see that ferrari fuel thingy, also if you have some info on what actaully happened and that private agreement would be great

I love when there is an ad within an ad...

Another complex topic made simple with easy-to-understand graphics and explanations. Well done!

That would be brilliant if you could make that video in the future, absolutely love your channel, keep up the great work, thank you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

This makes me think what if FIA sets different fuel flow rate limit each track. Would it be possible?

This is very useful, thanks for making this. I was wondering a lot about this.

1:34 New Inspired Alonso Dancer

I would like to know about the 2019 fuel trickery by the guys in red, thanks for asking!

You marked the coast sections of the Berlin E-Prix wrong as it goes counter clockwise under normal circumstances. But nice, that you thought of that one-off reverse layout from last year :D

2:28 I see what you did there you smart man

That was a brilliant video. I did not ever think of the details that you gave in this video but yet had the same question. Please make that video that you are referring to about that unnamed team

Lol the flash of the Ferrari at 2:30🤣 I wonder why😉

I need to see your proposed video on that split second team.

Yes please Stuart to the 'subverting the fuel flow limit' video. Cheers.

2:30 subtle

Indeed! If I had my way I'd go all the way and change F1 from an engine to a fuel formula: -Everybody has to run the same standardised fuel. -From the end of Qualifying everybody gets, say, a maximum of 100kg of fuel to spend in the race as wished. You are entirely free to develop your power unit and strategy to fit within that envelope. At a stroke fuel development costs are eliminated, innovation is promoted, and current PUs remain viable for those who want to keep using them. Better yet with no room to develop fuels there will be less pressure to incrementally develop PUs at great expense for little reward - once you are happy with your concept there will be little reason to keep at it.

I wish schools explain the learning material as well as you do! Thank you, Chain Bear!!!

I appreciate the Formula E explanation as well.

"Do you want that?" Yes, we want that.

I'm not sure I agree with all this, some of it makes sense but not all. Many of the hypotheses you used to argue against free fuel flow is just that; hypotheses. We don't know how the racing would pan out. I think the logic answer is that teams would calculate how to reach the finish of the race with the given amount of fuel in the shortest possible time, like they do for tire strategy, and then alter that on the fly depending on what actually happens during the race. To me that would be super interesting. If one team starts pushing hard early on, do others stick to their plan knowing they will be faster over-all that way, or do they follow suit? Not being able to defend because you burned off your fuel already, or being able to push late on because you have been conservative in the early stages. I think we might actually see a lot of overtaking that way. The worst that would happen is probably that everyone always just goes for pretty much the same strategy, which isn't any worse than what we have now... The teams are simply too good these days for much interesting chaos to occur regularly.

Yes I would be very happy if I could see how a _certain_ team got around that rule, yes

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As a fan of a "certain" team: I'd love to see a video on that

The part that is missed is the cost element. If fuel flow was unrestricted there would not be a limit to the power that could be achieved with a turbo engine. That would trigger a development race to make stronger internals and maximize air flow into the engine. The other part is with regards to safety, not just speed differential. There is a desire to cap power output as tracks and tires would need to be changed.

I would love to see a video about the certain team. I don't get how the situation unfolded how it did, and what the team actually did. Maybe that was the idea though 🤔

thank you for the subtitles! it's very important for people who don't have english as their mother language

very cheeky output on the rate per second.

We need that "certain team" video

Yessss do the certain team thingy!

I'm not the target customer for Ridge or any kind of company selling that kind of wallet, as it's certainly not my thing. However, I would watch a whole hour of Stuart making publicity for them, or probably any other company for that matter. The guy can sell a product! GET HIM SOME MORE SPONSORS :D

Definitely do that certain team video

Always a good day when you upload a video

full beans at the end actually sounds really good

I think qualifying would be also a problem. Without the fuel flow limit there would be a hyperpartymode as it was in the first turbo era. The famous 1400 hp BMW engine was an qualifying engine. We can only imagine what power level can be reached with 2021 technology. So other types of limitations would be introduced, as the maximum turbo pressure and so on. The simple fuel flow limit a simple solution for a lot of concerns.

There's a limit on energy recovery. Some teams may by pass it and pump more energy in the battery using KERS.

Yes please, I'd love to know how a certain team pranced around the regs!

That’d be a big “Hell Yeah!” to the suggested video on ‘cheating?!????’ ‘scandal’

Donut Media did a very good video about Ferrari "tricking" the fuel flow sensor, but maybe you could add more details on it. And I like when you related the tech with the sport side of things.

F1 cars will destroy the nurburgring nordschlief Lap record if they are allowed use all the power that engine has, even while running with limits and stuff they are faster than the Porsche 911 tribute idk if a williams or a haas can..

I've often asked myself that question, why not just entirely leave it up to the teams but your explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks a lot!

Great as always Stuart

Awesome. ANd for sure lets see that Ferrari fuel flow video!

Yes! I love your explanations. Keep it up!

Donut Media literally released the ferari video today unfortunately :( If you want *other* video ideas though, I'd love to see more on strategy (you could of course reference the merc strategy win in spain and the monaco strategy excellence from redbull and Aston Martin), or a speculative video on what cars will look like next year. Or if you want to do a "how it works" type-thing, it could be neat to learn about the steering setups and what ratios/sizes they use and what mechanisms there are to allow steering post-crash etc.

Yes, we want the fuel flow video for a certain team.

G'wan, tell us how Ferrari subverted the fuel-flow regs then, you know you want to. ;)

They need a minimum amount of fuel in parc ferme, when the cars are weighed or you are disqualified, look what happened to Ticktum in Monza F2 race last year

Very similar to restrictor plates in NASCAR, although that was more to reduce average lap speeds in the name of safety.

So much more interesting than I expected!

As aiden Millward says we need to look to v8 supercars. Yes they have refuelling but I think the difference in fuel flow would make for different strategies on track and excite the racing. If you've ever watched Bathurst every single year we wonder if drivers have enough fuel to get (whincup is awesome at using it 3 laps from home lol), but it creates great racing and edge of your seat stuff. Fia and fota always looking for something Nd this could actually be it. Thats just my opinion though

really nice to see the formula e comparison!

Wouldn't it still be a better strategy to keep fuel consumption steady, instead of the low/high strategy. Things like air resistance will increase exponentially with speed and the brakes will need to bleed more energy to slow down for corners if you go fast. So one fast lap might require two slow laps to compensate. That means that the average lap time will be longer. So if other cars employ the low/high strategy while you use a steady power and we ignore other factors like weather. In the first half of the race you will take the lead and then increase your lead because you are going faster than the other cars. It the second half the race the other cars will be going faster than you and start closing the distance, but they should never be able to catch you if you both have the same amount of fuel.

3:54 your putting Berlin e-Prix track the oher way around, they lap the track counter clock wise.

Yes! I want that. Btw, you've made very good arguments that I've modified my opinion on this matter. Thanks for the content.

Thanks for this video. I never thought of it that way