agreed go wild

HaHa, Yes Please!!!

Great idea😂👍

There is run off though. End of Sainte Devote, Mirabeau, Nouvelle Chicane and the final corner all have space for cars to run wide if they miss the braking zone or crash

Shit, for that matter I'd vote to do the 24h Nurburgring course if we weren't caring about run off areas. Some juicy suspension data could be gathered for sure

Ikr. One word, Baku.

@@jamiedenton2321 There would be room to create escape roads for some of the corners in the opposite direction, but not all of them, and that's where the problem lies.

Dennis B even Singapore, yet these KZfaq experts ...

@@glorious_help The same as with Baku.

@@TheJokerit19 But cranes can be used to remove any wrecks from those corners and where this isn't possible then a red flag for 5-10 mins while the vehicle is loaded onto a flatbed isn't the end of the world. Silverstone has more runoff than Monaco, Singapore, Baku, Canada and Brazil combined, in forward, reverse or upside down. I feel like this idea isn't simple but it can be completely within the realms of possibility. Edit: It would be significant effort to prep the track for a reverse race though, I wouldn't mind just running Silverstone multiple times in the normal layout if I'm honest.

"We had the road put there for a reason, stay on it"

1 BC: kill as much people as possible, bloodbath time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beinz heans .... geee geee goo goo gaa gaa! Ahuh huuuh!!!

Basicly, all the grandstands are empty now...

1930 is best. Spin out? Take corner wide? No. Don't. Not allowed. End of discussion.

Hey you play real racing 3 too? Nice

Grid Autosport had that layout for the GT races and it absolutely is

@@fishwater "FLy pretties, FLYYYYYYYYYYY"

There’s a video somewhere of I think ricciardo doing it and it looks scarier than you could even imagine. The road just disappears at 200mph

@@harryeyre1322 It was Max Verstappen: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbmPl7mh2ta8lJc.html

You'd be at Eau Rouge, your stomach would be at Radillion 😂😂

And it affects some more than others.

(Screams loudly) 'IM GOING CRAZY!' 😂😂

Nice rover.

*incoherent raving in agreement*

Very fair points all round - still, it'd be pretty neat if they could, as evidenced here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o8CpnNaZvsu3l4k.html

Though there are tracks with less run-off areas and they are not really dangerous, for example....street cirquits :D Pretty sure these cars can withstand all this, tires now cant fly off and kill anyone so actually I would say if they really want to race Silversone in reverse they will be able to do it.. or the last solution can be to just have strips slowing cars down like France has but that would probably make the track boring as hell.

@@FightingTorque411 That's it! Have them all play the F1 game! No safety issues and everyone can be socially distant so you wouldn't even need to wait for corona to go away.

@miso - ‘Tyres can’t fly off’. Kimi wants a word with you... ;)

this is one underrated comment

You could also just have that grandstand be empty, I guess

@@Reydriel The way we're going all the grandstands would be empty anyway

NFS Hot Pursuit 2 track designers: Hold my mirror

*laughs in Mario Kart

This does explain why i never like the reverse configurations...it always just feels wrong

GT Sport's original tracks almost all work pretty well both ways, it's pretty cool. Granted, it's virtual and they don't have to worry about safety at all, so I guess they have much more freedom to design such circuits. Still, I wish we could see Maggiore and both Dragon Trails irl

Ye let that happen, F1 has become boring anyway.

DirtyBlastard Probably some licensing problem

@@tyle.s9084 the same devs have no issues using normal and reverse layouts in Grid series. and I absolutely hate it

@@vsm1456 do you know what licensing is?

@@tyle.s9084if my son grows up to be a lawyer i'll disown him

@@zbou23 you know lawyers don't decide these things right? They just help the executives understand the law and write up paperwork for them. Their job is to protect their clients to the best of their ability. You'd have to be incredibly naive to say something like this. A lawyer can be the best thing that ever happened to you. Without them you're absolutely fucked and people can trample all over your rights. Wait until you grow up and need a lawyer because some sick fuck caused you some harm or cost you everything just to make a buck. You'll be begging some lawyer to help you then.

I love Knockhill but I think F1 cars would just about to airborne 3 or 4 times per lap. It's wild. FIA would never approve of that.

Heck yes! Scottish Grand Prix, make it so!

Pannonia RIng in Hungary is another one

Knockhill Racing Circuit (KRC) just got planning permission for a Grade 1 Upgrade and a 1.6km extension, making it around the same length as the Red Bull Ring and (I think) a bit shorter than Canada. We don't know much, but if the plan is approved, then they'll go for it. The Grade 1 upgrade includes: - 28 Car Pit Lane - Wider Straights + Turns - Improved Crash Barriers, runoff + Kerbing - Grandstands (yay!) - More Marshall Posts - A 1.6km Track Extension, conforming to FIA Grade 1 standards You mentioned about it being in a rural area of Fife. Sadly, yes, this would prevent the possibility of F1 visiting town, as there is only really one 'main' road into KRC and it's a pretty narrow B road. It's already busy enough when BTCC or BSB visit. However, the Council of Fife would try everything to get the F1 circus in, even if that meant making more roads, widening roads etc, I think they'd do it. Tourism would pump that money back.

@@daillyarran Knockhill can't have 'gt3 racing due to noise limits so no chance of F1

Same thought, here. The older drivers would surely be up for it!

Was the Bahrain Endurance layout that bad?

@@Mandarin9900 A LOT

@@DaniloVaz72 That's not a very detailed reason why

@@Mandarin9900 Because instead of the fast S section which opens up for overtakes if someone's fluffs their lines, everyone went through the slower section without much option for overtaking. Just watch one of the races there!

sagi alex long answer: noooooooooooo

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@Star Saber VET had been doing that, plus to his team mate, the previous 4

And then one of them would die...

@@M00NMAN14 yes exactly which is why i prefer today where we are very keen on making the tacks as safe as possible

And on average one of them would die per season. Certainly would spice things up again since modern F1 went kind of overboard with safety in the last decade or so.

glock_17 I understand its part of the drivers job that they are at risk. But surely, if you can improve safety, and do things which limit the chances of injury and death, you do everything you can to do it? Stop complaining about excess safety, unless you yourself are an F1 driver.

@@glock17games if u want joy in life...just remove brakes of your car and run at 200mph...u will get ur joy back...

Or just keep the same layout without changing anything since all races are different from each other anyway.

@@TheJokerit19 But throw in some reverse grids and other stuff.

TheJokerit19 Are you joking? were happy if the top 6 aren’t the same for 3 races in a row and you think that a race at the same circuit with the same cars will be different

@@kuttispielt7801 Yes, of course, it'd be different, no doubt about that. Yes, the top-six might be the same, but not necessarily in the same order, and the same with the rest of the field. No race is ever exactly the same outcome-wise, and the same would be true with two or more consecutive races on the same circuit.

Someone's feeling sassy from the isolation

Jussi Raitoniemi I don’t get it 😂

What it means is that Other circuits like Silverstone and Spa are built on natural land that was always there However in Abu Dhabi the island it was CONSTRUCTED on is man made this is why you may notice that there is no elevation changes on the racetrack so if they put the money into it (which they could) they could make more land to add more runoff areas. Another example of this is the Palm Jumeirah in Dubai which is a man made island that looks like a palm tree on Google, you should look it up maps look it up.

@@zaynalabideen1259 ah, you're no fun

@@jotunr OH! I thought you didn't actually understand what he meant my bad.

yes didnt you know monza was actually made from the ancient roman gods?

@@pitergriffin01 no all tracks were made by Lord Ragunathan the first of his name and our true savior of our glorious sport.

😂

His brain was running forward and reverse simultaneously

I was just looking at Albert Park, besides tree clearing and elevation changes in potential runoff zones, only a few tweaks would be needed. The 'Carpark section of turn 5 and 4 would have to be slowed down considerably since there would be a lot less runoff at turn 3. Current pit lane entry would be dicey as an exit as well as what to do with turn 11 and 12, but there would be a lot of turning braking corners like turn 9. It might even make it NOT a complete borefest. Edit: using corner numbers from the current clockwise layout. Also very doubtful this would happen.

@@kukuc96 Marina Bay turn 6, 22, 23?

@@kukuc96 it was more of a what if they reversed it for possibly better racing, not coming out here twice like it is a European circuit ;) Those corners are tricky (5, 11 and 12) but it isn't going to require drastic changes - mostly just expanding out the runoff. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

Márton Ovád Baku has some ridiculously high speed corners with only concrete barriers and minimal run off areas?

Márton Ovád the same monza that doesn’t have a grade 1 license because it’s an unsafe track yeah? Turns 2 to 3 ( where quite a lot of contact happens ) no run offs, just barriers. Turn 12 to 15, by the time the car reaches turn 15 it’s at maximum acceleration and not far of the top end of speed. Again no run off at all and just barriers, heck even the main straight only has a a run off in line with the straight, nothing at the actual corner itself. No need to try and be a smartarse buddy

In fairness, what would require more work? Bringing the bridge section up to par again? Or bringing the whole current GP circuit up to par for a reverse race? I don’t think one is much better than the other, as far as work load.

Charlie Whiting (rip) went to check the circuit for it's Grade 1 License a few weeks before he died.

in 1954! During an era when driving through villages with no barriers or run offs was normal (Spa, Reims etc).

I went there too, but I think they would have to add some run off areas and extend the track to be slightly wider and also I'm pretty sure the tarmac was different than the one on the proper track but idk.

That is a really good idea. The finishing order of the first race would be the starting order in reverse for the second race. No practice, no qualifying and no rebuilds necessary.

@@ShazenVideos no qualy I can understand; no practice seems like a bad idea.

Yeah, none of this matters if they run it in a video game, like they did for Australia this year.

lol. I remember going into a game with a bunch of reverse circuits... So I was all ready for the race to be going the other direction around the same tracks... Only to find that the 'reverse' in the reverse circuit was actually swapping left and right. That's something you can do in a game that you DEFINITELY can't do with a real track. XD

There are so many great tracks in the US, some former F1 venues, we could use to fill a calendar. Hell, I'd be for allowing each US state to try to host a GP.

Actually, a figure-8 (Suzuka-style, not an intersection) would be really cool for NASCAR. Pack racing with both clockwise and anticlockwise banked turns could lead to interesting strategies, especially since the inside line on turns 1 and 2 would be the outside line on turns 3 and 4.

@@alaeriia01 Car setup also wouldn't be able to account for all the turns being in the same direction like on a standard oval. Kinda like Darlington and Pocono each having turns of different radii. Safety issue though: Ovals are anticlockwise in the US so impacts with the wall are with the passenger side of the car. Australian ovals such as Thunderdome go clockwise as their drivers are on the right side.

nascar tracks which have literally no runoff but rather instant wall at the outside of all corners:

@@kukuc96 Probably to do it at this point to existing tracks is highly unlikely as this video points out, but to design tracks from the get-go that work in reverse would not be that much more expensive and could potentially attract more races to the venue

Márton Ovád double the runoffs and walls that pivot and grandstands that are well placed. I can’t imagine that adding more than 10% price to a track creation, if that. Out of the entire cost to build a track, I bet only roughly 50% is actual construction with the rest be purchasing the land and getting all the permits, approval, and designing. Then imagine construction - moving all the land, flattening, paving, etc. I can’t a few extra gravel pits costing more than 10% of the total cost. A few million still? Sure. But worth it? If you can increase the big races by even 1 or 2 a year, you almost immediately pay that off. At least that’s what I imagine.

Let me add that tracks add multiple layouts all the time at far far greater costs and they justify that somehow.

The point isn’t to kill half the grid but otherwise I agree it would be spectacular

We have them. But for some strange reason, we can only go left.

@@eoinkeegan4172 The idea of racing ovals in anti-clockwise is that in stock cars you sit on the left side of the car and the wall is up to the right. If you went the other way around, it would be dangerous.

@@rafleggy2fast526 The funny thing about that is that races at England's Rockingham Motor Speedway (not to be confused with North Carolina's Rockingham Speedway) used to be run counterclockwise in spite of most of the cars that raced on that oval being right-hand drive. Australia, on the other hand, got it right when they built Calder Park's Thunderdome: Auscar ran clockwise and NASCAR Australia ran counterclockwise.

_Ferrari takes a one-two, followed by a rare Racing Point 3-4 and Alpha Tauri 5-6. It was a DNS for everyone else_

@@rafleggy2fast526 huh. So the opposite reason of airport circuits then. Civilian pilots also generally sit on the left, and unless the airport has functional restrictions, you perform a circuit using exclusively left-hand turns (eg clockwise). Why? Because from the left-hand side of the aircraft, a left-hand turn gives much better visibility of the runway. That's the second observation in a few hours I've run into where racing and flying have something in common, however indirectly...

More like... siwel ereht ni teg

Get out of here Lewis

Why would you think overtaking is impossible here?

If anything, overtaking would theoretically be easier because drivers don't have much experience with the track in reverse, and will therefore make more mistakes.

r/Iamverysmart

Imola AND Mugello

@@LoganHunter82 both awesome

Imola could be good, but Mugello is to narrow for F1 cars. Apart from the first corner there are no places where the drivers could go side by side

@@dinhocolo13 yeah about that......

Unfortunately that round has already been cancelled

NakariNova i was just talking about reversing the direction in general. If any circuit gets cancelled they won’t be run. If they aren’t, they will definitely go the designed layout.

through the tunnel into Lower-Mirabeau? down the hill into St Devote (with cars slowing down early for a pit entry)? I'd admit the rest of it could work, but those two issues are fairly major

Lower Mirabeau? I'm assuming u mean portier. That corner would work as the road continues on straight after the tunnel so runoff could be setup there. Antony Noghes would be just horrible in reverse. Very little room for runoffs, high speed approach, much narrower than St Devote (with no room to add in extra area on the inside like turn 1) and the pitlane entry (now the exit in reverse) would be a nightmare as well

Did someone say Paul Ricard?

Again Not long enough under 3.5k

No, it isn't. No other circuits in the UK have grade 1 licenses at this point (it's a lot of money for very little gain).

That's a question of geometry and angles that Stuart has covered before. Ironically, because of the narrow width of Monaco, it actually is kinda safer, because the narrow width of the track doesn't allow for the car to build up a crazy amount of inertia, to hit the wall at an ugly angle.

It's much slower

@@shaylanroy583 - much slower than what? Have you seen the sections at St. Devote and Piscine?

@@AndrewGeierMelons Even the life ending Lorenzo Bandini accident in 67 was mostly because of the car safety

Street circuits are fundamentally different from tracks and are held to completely different standards by the FIA. Whether that actually makes sense is another thing.

IRC Donnington always wanna host F1 race, they tell this should be Europe Grand Prix

If only mate

thats bullshit, its grade 1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_Monaco