WHY DONT SALAFIS DEBATE AHLUL BIDAH?

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Sunni Dawah

Sunni Dawah

6 жыл бұрын

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@MrRK0121
@MrRK0121 6 жыл бұрын
People dont understand that salafis are proper ahlul hadith sunni they think salafi means extremist or terrorist
@eddydar
@eddydar 6 жыл бұрын
0121_ R.K true this is because the shia and persons of bidah purposely associate the terrorist acts with salafi in the western world with call themselves salafi. I seen a old shia cow on bbc news saying that these acts are down to the salafis. Habeeth old cow. How does she get a prime time slot on bbc news? Maybe the jews facilitate this. They plot and plan but Allah is the best of the planners.
@MrRK0121
@MrRK0121 6 жыл бұрын
E Dar the media use terms like wahabbi and salafi and islamist. These are made up words and this proves they have no knowledge in what they are saying, the extremists are khawarij not salafi. Every proper sunni is a salafi
@user-dp3bb5df5l
@user-dp3bb5df5l 5 жыл бұрын
@Ajc16 no bro its totally different
@WissemKhazzani
@WissemKhazzani 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true still some of them understand the difference between us and them . It's not the same. Al Hamduli Allah
@watch13famouspeoplewhoacce45
@watch13famouspeoplewhoacce45 3 жыл бұрын
⚠️ 0nly 0ne $ect Will Enter Paradise 🔹 Every Sect Claims To be following the Quran & Hadith 🔹The..Main problem Is people Connect to a Sect & then go along with whatever ◻️ they Have been taught Even if it Contradicts the Quran & Hadith 0n some matters 🔹 We..should Not join a Sect, We Should only follow Allah;s order the Quran & Hadith. 🔹 If..a Person IGN0RE$ joining any sect & STRICTLY follows the Quran & Hadith, ◻️ people will Start naming him as a member of a Sect which l am not going to mention, ◻️ however it PR0VE$ this Sect is the CORRECT one. 🔹 Question for All those people who claim we must follow or Respect the 0pinions of ◻️ $CHOLARS, are you ready to become a Shia if you was preached by a Shia $CHOLAR❓ 🔹 The..Prophet P.B.U.H Told Us 0NLY one Sect will enter PARADISE, this means SCH0LARS ◻️ from..all the other $ects will Enter the FIRE 🔹 This is why We Should not be afraid of telling anyone who is preaching against the ◻️ QURAN 0r HADITH, whether It be a $CH0LAR, MUFTI, or ALIM. 🔹 The Prophet P.B.U.H Said even if you know one Ayat then pass it on, this proves we Do not ◻️ need to become a $CH0LAR, MUFTI, or AL|M before preaching. ⚠️ Warning for all those who do bid’ah 🔹 Allah..warns us in the Quran“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed my ◻️ favour upon you , & have Chosen for you Islam as your religion” Q-uran 5 : 3 🔹 Please Note the perfected & complete religion was without any bid’ah ( bid’ah is all newly ◻️ invented deeds which The Prophet P.B.U.H did not mention ) 🔹 The Prophet P.B.U.H said “Every |nnovation is going astray, and every going astray ◻️ will be in the Fire. ” Narrated by M-uslim (867) and an-N-asaa’i (1578) 🔹 Many..muslims Continue To do bid’ah by claiming this is bid’ah Hasanah ( Good newly ◻️ invented deeds ). These people Should ask themselves if there is such a thing as good ◻️ Alcohol ❓ The answer is NO, as Every Alcohol is forbidden. The Prophet P.B.U.H said ◻️ Every Bid'ah is forbidden ,there is no such thing as good bid’ah
@JustObserving7860
@JustObserving7860 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah protect bro shamshi and may Allah give him more strength to spread haq in speakers corner
@InfinitesimallyInfinite
@InfinitesimallyInfinite 6 жыл бұрын
I love you for the sake of Allaah Azza wa Jal akhi. From India here. BaarakAllaahu feek!!
@AbdullahSOTK
@AbdullahSOTK 6 жыл бұрын
We needed this! Let's together, clear the misconceptions about us Salafi's and how everyone must follow the manhaj of the righteous Salaf.
@carlosillich787
@carlosillich787 6 жыл бұрын
ali akberali follow the Quran and the Sunnah. Praise the virtue of the the Rashidun Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman and the family of the prophet e.g. Prophet Muhammad S.A.W's wives. May Allah guide you.
@muad6987
@muad6987 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah reward you Ustadh Shamsi. Ameen
@AbdullahSOTK
@AbdullahSOTK 6 жыл бұрын
عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ عَنْ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ خَيْرُ النَّاسِ قَرْنِي ثُمَّ الَّذِينَ يَلُونَهُمْ ثُمَّ الَّذِينَ يَلُونَهُمْ ثُمَّ يَجِيءُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِمْ قَوْمٌ تَسْبِقُ شَهَادَتُهُمْ أَيْمَانَهُمْ وَأَيْمَانُهُمْ شَهَادَتَهُمْ Abdullah ibn Mas’ud reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The best people are those of my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then, there will come people after them whose testimony precedes their oaths and their oaths precede their testimony.”
@bdrealest1572
@bdrealest1572 6 жыл бұрын
This brother is a lion Respect, Allahumma barik
@63zoOoz
@63zoOoz 6 жыл бұрын
تحية للأخ والمعلم الشامسي من بلاد الحرمين , أسأل الله أن يزيدك علما وفقها وعملا
@121goodmanuk8
@121goodmanuk8 6 жыл бұрын
Jazakallahu Khair broher Shamsi.
@covffchannel
@covffchannel 6 жыл бұрын
Barakullaahu fee kum Akhi
@macmcc4651
@macmcc4651 6 жыл бұрын
As salaam alaykum. Akhee Shamsi. From the confusion I have witnessed as a revert in speakers corner. You are consistent in manners. You keep it real basically.
@jamaitiahlihadeeskupwara6909
@jamaitiahlihadeeskupwara6909 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of love from India occupied kashmir. Thanku may ALLAH grant u Janna Ameen
@ahmadrahime2061
@ahmadrahime2061 6 жыл бұрын
my Allah subhanu w ta3ala increase your knolege. But. Keep u humble humble frst brother don't let anything get to your head
@hiddens2346
@hiddens2346 6 жыл бұрын
Akhi, what happened to the audio in this video? It's generally better that this. +Sunni Dawah
@user-gt5cz5gj4g
@user-gt5cz5gj4g 4 жыл бұрын
It is good enough, complainer
@zatorith
@zatorith 6 жыл бұрын
ربي يحفظك يا شامسي تحياتي من ليبيا
@Brazybellz201
@Brazybellz201 6 жыл бұрын
zatorith و تحياتنا إليكم أهل ليبيا ربنا يحفظكم جميعا
@isak3963
@isak3963 6 жыл бұрын
Akhi pls use a microphone JazakAllah.
@AMan-gt5fr
@AMan-gt5fr 6 жыл бұрын
‏الله يحفظك يا شمسي
@GwithaG
@GwithaG 6 жыл бұрын
jazakallah khayr clear explanation.
@mariqmarzuki7878
@mariqmarzuki7878 2 жыл бұрын
this dissension between Ash'ari and Wahabi has many layers, the Sauds fought hard the Ottomans.
@GULLY2MONEY
@GULLY2MONEY 6 жыл бұрын
SUBHAANALLAAH....so many comments based upon ignorance and emotions being made here... SEEK KNOWLEDGE BEFORE YOU SPEAK....
@user-xy4xq1ep4p
@user-xy4xq1ep4p 6 жыл бұрын
وفقكم الله
@abudujanaalbaghdadi1478
@abudujanaalbaghdadi1478 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah reward all those involved in this channel.. This is getting embarrassing for the shia now, back to back exposing of their mushrik beliefs.. alhamdulilah.
@duude213
@duude213 6 жыл бұрын
My allah be with you brother shamsi
@gazageeza215
@gazageeza215 6 жыл бұрын
كلمة ينبغي أن يكتب بماء العينين!
@authenticdawah9804
@authenticdawah9804 6 жыл бұрын
Are their still classes on Saturday ?
@theguy5265
@theguy5265 6 жыл бұрын
Daily SUNNAH If you're talking about masjid dusunnah then yes.
@authenticdawah9804
@authenticdawah9804 6 жыл бұрын
the guy na'am barakallah feekum
@b-townkid7120
@b-townkid7120 6 жыл бұрын
And to Allah belongs [all] honor, and to His Messenger, and to the believers, but the hypocrites do not know.
@yytManize
@yytManize 6 жыл бұрын
Mash'Allah,ya dear Allah bless br Shamsi, The Lion,The king,The master,The protector of Islam, Ya Allah protect us all Muslims
@theguy5265
@theguy5265 6 жыл бұрын
Capone Sohrabi My Bro, may Allah bless you. He ain't why label him The protector of the religion, Allah protects this religion..
@yellowbird8037
@yellowbird8037 6 жыл бұрын
ربي يجازيك يا شمسي اسد من اسود الاسلام بلدك تحتاجك الشيعة قاعدة تنتشر عندنا اللع يهديهم
@fightthetemptations7892
@fightthetemptations7892 6 жыл бұрын
hadjer hermosa حفظ الله الجزائر ووقاكم شرهم
@Mimi-Maa18
@Mimi-Maa18 6 жыл бұрын
fight The Temptations أمين
@khaddz2366
@khaddz2366 6 жыл бұрын
وينهم الشيعة. 😮 He is doing well there .may Allah grant him jannah
@Prince-ri2co
@Prince-ri2co 6 жыл бұрын
الله يحفظك يا أسد.
@blasty-gg
@blasty-gg 5 жыл бұрын
the truth remains and the falsehood perishes.the true nature of falsehood is to perish
@symaanjum5790
@symaanjum5790 4 жыл бұрын
🌟🌟🌟
@naieemali1114
@naieemali1114 6 жыл бұрын
Sura 22:78 stop referring to yourselves as salafis .The most true standard is Allah's standard, don't you also claim so? Fear Allah as he should be feared! Not according to your akl.
@WawanGunawan-oz6gi
@WawanGunawan-oz6gi 5 жыл бұрын
Because salafi are self righteous, you dare to called other muslim of ahlusunnah al jamaah is ahlul bid'ah, shame on you. You like islamic version of westboro baptist church.
@shabba247
@shabba247 6 жыл бұрын
Yes they are linked to Yasir Habib . The guy wearing green in the following video is the Syed from rafida who debated Mohamed hijab m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jruBltukv7mvoIE.html
@agalgalo7789
@agalgalo7789 Жыл бұрын
Prominent sheikhs are doing dwatul tabliegh ,wel learned sheikhs with knowledge of quran ,who are versed in translation of quran like sheikh Abdirashid Ali suufi ahlul towheed you call all ahlul bidah?? and they dont understand towheed and you know better than them?? Ok as you said someone told you God is everywhere and so youre sure everyone going tabliegh dont know Where Allah is?? I also ask you sheikh tell me about salaf you said method of teaching system of aquiring islam knowledge ,this going to madrasa primary to jamiah getting certificate ,diploma, degree ,doctoral many years leaving your wife and children to get certificates, incomparison to 40days, 3days, with no certificates no doctoral, or degree and is it also bidhaa because rasullah (saw) never obtain certificate or give out to sahabah so shekh give us real prove with references as you said 40days ,3days are innovation but what of other system where are the reference from the hadith or the quran ??
@elmazielmazi6203
@elmazielmazi6203 3 жыл бұрын
Ahlul contradiction talking about ahlul bidah🤔
@abulailaalshishany9249
@abulailaalshishany9249 6 жыл бұрын
Shamsi is Shaik raslan jr may Allah preserve them both ameen.
@kainat.
@kainat. 2 жыл бұрын
The title😂😂 99% Salafi people debate on KZfaq. Feel sorry for us Sunni people
@007VitaminD
@007VitaminD 6 жыл бұрын
What if I said true Shia's of Ahlul Bayt dont debate with Bakris?
@ahmadrahime2061
@ahmadrahime2061 6 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhh ya shamsi ya ghade3
@NicheXclusive
@NicheXclusive 6 жыл бұрын
Zindeeqq Al khabis.... Na'am Tayyib
@mohibhanif1759
@mohibhanif1759 6 жыл бұрын
Brother, I agree with your principle, but we can't consider rafidis as "ahlul bida", they are kuffaar and mushrikeen. It's an insult to the innovators to call the rafidis as ahlul bidaa...
@theguy5265
@theguy5265 6 жыл бұрын
Mohib Hanif Bidah is of two types, bidah mukaffarah and bidah ghayr mukaffarah (bidah that takes you out of the fold of Islam and bidah that is less than kufr). Yes it is true, rafida fall under bidah that exits them from the deen (there dua to other than Allah etc) but they are still regarded as ahlul bidah and are treated as ahlul bidah
@mohibhanif1759
@mohibhanif1759 6 жыл бұрын
so we shouldn't debate with anyone..???? Akhi, that's not the way of the salaf at ALL. If shirk is a type of bidah, then the christians and hindus are ahlul bidaa as well ....it doesnt make any sense
@theguy5265
@theguy5265 6 жыл бұрын
Mohib Hanif My Bro, forget the long explaining... Give me one Scholar who proceeded you in your statement that rafida are not ahlul bidah. Wullahi just one statement from a Scholar.. As imam Ahmed said لا تتكلم في مسئلة ليس لك فيها إمام "Don't speak about a matter in which you have no Scholar (that has proceeded you)" All the ulama are united upon the fact that they are ahlul bidah..
@theguy5265
@theguy5265 6 жыл бұрын
And for the record, I never said you can't debate them... There are conditions to debating them on necessities.
@hiddens2346
@hiddens2346 6 жыл бұрын
Don't rush in Takfeer!!
@naieemali1114
@naieemali1114 6 жыл бұрын
Are we being self righteous??????
@MegaMoney786
@MegaMoney786 6 жыл бұрын
Wobblers on one
@n.f101f2
@n.f101f2 3 жыл бұрын
But it’s okay for u too debate Shia kids 💀🤣🤣🤡
@n.f101f2
@n.f101f2 3 жыл бұрын
So u debate laymen but not knowledgeable 🤣🤣💀💀🤡🤡🤡
@tajineissuperlekker2803
@tajineissuperlekker2803 3 жыл бұрын
Advice them
@acejamal1
@acejamal1 5 жыл бұрын
This is not sunni Dawah it is Najdi Dawah (from najd the place of fitna) thug life buay look like a dealer! Talks a load of tosh (he has sect mentality a follower of the Wahhabiyoon brainwashed!) he's not on the way of the salf or the khalf but ibn Abdul wahab Najdi who followed the books of ibn taymiyyah who was declared a kafir by the Ullema of his time for being a mujissimah (someone who ascribed a body for Allah)
@falsehoodrefuted
@falsehoodrefuted 4 жыл бұрын
Ya Kadaab!!!!
@acejamal1
@acejamal1 4 жыл бұрын
@@falsehoodrefuted Listen you brainwashed Wahabi show me this aqeedah with an unbroken chain from the Salf us Saliheen to today? You can not this aqeedah of Mujisimah and wahiyat was first proclaimed by Ibn Taymiyyah he was refuted for his anthromorphism and died in jail for his heretical beliefs. Later it was revived by Muhamad bin Abdul Wahab najdi who spread his own version of islam. So show me that the aqeedah of the Najdis from the Salf with a continuous unbroken chain through scholars to present day and I will Inshallah show you that the aqeedah of musimah is shirk.
@falsehoodrefuted
@falsehoodrefuted 4 жыл бұрын
@@acejamal1 we aren't Mujasimah! That is a slander against Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah but it doesn't phase me anymore. I can inshaAllah bring you clear cut proofs! No problem. inshaaAllah! The problem is that when they are brought people rarely accept them. Let me ask you a simple question first then we can proceed. Is it permissible to go to graves and ask the inhabitants for help? Depending on your answer depends on whether I will devote a portion of my time to this conversation or not!
@acejamal1
@acejamal1 4 жыл бұрын
@@falsehoodrefuted najdi wahabis are not Ahle Sunnah they only appeared around 250 years ago. Muazzallah you maintain body parts for Allah and the actions of humans then maintain we are not muhisimah.
@falsehoodrefuted
@falsehoodrefuted 4 жыл бұрын
@@acejamal1 hmmm interesting you didn't reply to my question. Can I go to a grave and ask an dead person for help? Can I say Ya Muhammed Madad? Is this ok? Answer this then we can deal with your slander depending on your answer! I am not convinced you will answer! You will probably deflect again!
@ammar6937
@ammar6937 6 жыл бұрын
What about debating Christians because there innovators also?...
@SunniDawah
@SunniDawah 6 жыл бұрын
Christians aren't innovators.
@ammar6937
@ammar6937 6 жыл бұрын
Sunni Dawah how it's that bro if they have changed there religion there's so many different groups of them just like muslims who have innovated can you elaborate please akhi
@ammar6937
@ammar6937 6 жыл бұрын
De Waarheid bro I'm just a Muslim..I'm a revert through Sunni based Islam...but to my understanding bidah Is newly invented matters...from the start Christianity was basically Islam....the true teachings was isa pbuh was a messenger...man changed it to he's God...that's bidah bro,along with many other changes..someone correct me if I'm wrong
@luqmanhussain5059
@luqmanhussain5059 6 жыл бұрын
Allaah told us to debate with the people of the book and clear the misconceptions because they do not know. Allaah did not order us to debate with Ahlul Bid'a because they know the truth but because of a disease in their hearts they ignore it and spread their filth amongst people. It is in their sunnah to practice taqiyya and to lie about Allaah and His Messenger.
@ammar6937
@ammar6937 6 жыл бұрын
De Waarheid bro calm yourself down...I'm asking a genuine question and your getting all irritated...put your arrogance side and answer me instead of being rude...I've looked it up and clearly Christians are innovators...
@aliridha2121
@aliridha2121 6 жыл бұрын
What a joke...
@AJ-Real313
@AJ-Real313 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is a top liar. He has the cheek to say stubborn? 😂 I’ve seen this guy blatantly deny and “REJECT” Hadith which is considered sahih and he tried his hardest to downplay it and say it’s weak.
@rogerthat-do5ps
@rogerthat-do5ps 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you can't show me example
@AJ-Real313
@AJ-Real313 4 жыл бұрын
atala I can’t find the video, its about that hadith authenticated by al dhahabi, al albani and many other SUNNI scholars about prophet muhammed (s.a.w) naming imam ali his successor. Its sahih everywhere and this jokeman tried to play it down and say its weak.
@bilalozakar100
@bilalozakar100 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-Real313 provide your proof if you are truthful
@AJ-Real313
@AJ-Real313 2 жыл бұрын
@@bilalozakar100 Send me your email brother and i will show you scans
@bilalozakar100
@bilalozakar100 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-Real313 not necessary send it in the commentsection
@abqadeer1834
@abqadeer1834 Жыл бұрын
who are ahle bida simple hanafees the people of ahle rai there ulemas follow there desire. hanafees are wolves in sheepclothing.
@syedasadullah7462
@syedasadullah7462 Жыл бұрын
Salafis are loosing their sense..😅
@karlmuud
@karlmuud 4 жыл бұрын
Salafis follow Mr. Wahab from the middle east. A man. Salafis follow a man made sect but say don't celebrate the birth of the greatest of mankind❗ Yes‼️
@NK236
@NK236 4 жыл бұрын
Wahabbi sect ? Did sahaba celebrate maulid?
@rogerthat-do5ps
@rogerthat-do5ps 4 жыл бұрын
Did hasan and hussain celebrate maulid?
@AliShah-ey2nh
@AliShah-ey2nh 6 жыл бұрын
This guy likes making single video with no other person just in case he is asked a question he can't answer and run like a road runner that he is.
@jawadnaqvi777
@jawadnaqvi777 6 жыл бұрын
shamsi hell dog ... thats all i hv to say ...
@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ
@LETSUNITEUPONHAQQ 6 жыл бұрын
jawad naqvi that's was very weak just like you're believe
@b-townkid7120
@b-townkid7120 6 жыл бұрын
jawad naqvi I flush too many naqvis each day in my toilet
@ibnbatutah4475
@ibnbatutah4475 6 жыл бұрын
Run Wahabi, run wahabi... run, run, run.
@teach1838
@teach1838 6 жыл бұрын
Why don`t salafis deabte ahlul bidah? Because they`re scared
@max20817
@max20817 6 жыл бұрын
Teach guessing u ain't found your dad yet, you ain't gonna find him on KZfaq you troll
@adammalik5654
@adammalik5654 6 жыл бұрын
why you on this page ...you still following muslims boii?
@teach1838
@teach1838 6 жыл бұрын
Are you Shamsis warriors? Be a warrior for Allah instead of worshiping Shamsi
@jamalchoudhury1277
@jamalchoudhury1277 6 жыл бұрын
Is this the way of the salaf?
@mrnazirkhan
@mrnazirkhan 6 жыл бұрын
These salafi fools don’t even go back 1000 of years of books that it self is a mockery of the religion end off
@muawviyah8853
@muawviyah8853 6 жыл бұрын
Why? I am a Sunni. But I disagree with Shamsi. His level of knowledge is just equivalent to the Shia kid.
@simbacanee3767
@simbacanee3767 6 жыл бұрын
Your probably just a shia youtube troll account. You dont evan know what real knowledge means so how about u keep ur mouth closed yaa jahil. and go be sincere and learn. If you was really sunni you would agree. Because everything mentioned in this video was in accordance to the sunnah.
@shamsnawabi
@shamsnawabi 5 жыл бұрын
Proof ur Ahle sunnat. Say u love and respect Khulefaa rashidin. U will never u shia troll kid
@tajineissuperlekker2803
@tajineissuperlekker2803 3 жыл бұрын
Praise the sahaba and swear by الله you are not using taqiyaa we don’t believe you your name says enough “ muahwiya “ why you put his name there ? “Radi allahu hanoe “
@shafiqueshah5652
@shafiqueshah5652 6 жыл бұрын
Brother you should drop the word bidah because Caliph Umar was the king of bidah. Look at your history , bruv.
@shafiqueshah5652
@shafiqueshah5652 6 жыл бұрын
Mahdi Bro read history and you'll see all the ones he introduced. Bida hasana as he called them. Taraweeh was prayed by the prophet as a nawafil prayer l. It was not prayed in jammat, as it is to day. Since Umar was following the Sunnah of the prophet why did he introduce then. Bidah is bidah, no matter what you call it!!!
@shamsnawabi
@shamsnawabi 5 жыл бұрын
Shafique Shah omar never licked graves. Haha son of muatah
@rogerthat-do5ps
@rogerthat-do5ps 4 жыл бұрын
Umar bin khattab radhiyallahu'anhu never celebrate maulid, and worhip graves.
@shafiqueshah5652
@shafiqueshah5652 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerthat-do5ps umar chose islam as a pick and mix, whatever suited him, he added it. Do you still fold your hands in prayers, like the jews?
@shafiqueshah5652
@shafiqueshah5652 4 жыл бұрын
@@shamsnawabi better than being son of munafiq
@Saqisaq
@Saqisaq 6 жыл бұрын
video should be titled why salafis are scared of the truth shame on you
@GULLY2MONEY
@GULLY2MONEY 6 жыл бұрын
Saq pranks ....WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO TELL US THE TRUTH... TELL US...WHAT IS THE TRUTH OTHER THAN SALAFFIYAH ...
@fearnonebutone4977
@fearnonebutone4977 6 жыл бұрын
Please tell us the truth. The Salafis get info from the Quran, Sunnah by the understating of the best there generations (Sahabah, Tabi’un and the one after them). So please inform us Saq pranks, with your enlightenment which is more authentic than that of the sources the salafi scholars. Please. Inform us.
@rogerthat-do5ps
@rogerthat-do5ps 4 жыл бұрын
Please tell us the truth then
@Saqisaq
@Saqisaq 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerthat-do5ps Are you willing to accept the truth though?
@Saqisaq
@Saqisaq 4 жыл бұрын
@@fearnonebutone4977 Are you willing to accept the truth though?
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