Yeah, people don't understand that when a Moira is in the enemy backlines harassing the enemy supports it makes the fight basically a 4v3. While your team is indeed down one support, their team basically have none.

Most dps moira’s can’t make it work though because they don’t know when to stop dpsing and heal

Nah id prefer using kiriko for that usage

@@Newt_G84 one would need to be at the very least on gm level to get any use out of kiriko flanking. That's about 1% of the playerbase.

@Caio Campoy i think that goes for moira as well. Mechanical skills and good sight still takes place for moira as well as kiriko. Id say both are extremely hard to flank especially alone. But kiriko does get much more out of her skillsets and utilities while being unreliable. Moira is more reliable but gets less out of flanking. Id say kiriko is best fit with side flanking dps or dive tanks while moira seems to be much more of a solo play based

Describing her work as unethical would be a kindness

It's just called throwing

@@freezedupfrost6064 he got top 30 by “throwing” sooooo…

@@Tutualoe And? I don't think you realise what one trick means. Literally any other moira pretending like they can do this is throwing. Doesn't matter if you are GM or Gold, if your moira starts doing this, you are going to lose the match. Exceptions don't disprove the majority fact, this one dude is top 30 and that too mostly based on teammates being able to handle having only 1 healer.

@yngtrouble63 who? You are probably one of those dumb hardstuck bronze players who blame their teammates when you are complete trash at the game

not just "maybe," its just common gamesense to bait cooldowns that can shut you down

He went ADAD next to stairs when he fought cassidy as this tech throws hitscan aim... learned that from highway unranked to GM on sojourn series

That's why DPS Moira works for this player and not for 90% of Moiras on ladder. Most of the time you'll see them flank Coal vs the whole team w full cooldowns, get CCd and die.

@@bu3adel944 hi bu3adel, im subbed to u

Yeah with any character ever with an ult like moira you should bait cooldowns before ULTing, it’s probably one of the more basic concepts

after playing the new patch where they allowed moira to stop the orb as she pleases i can tell you right tf now it’s crazy. I’m actually doing less dmg since i can just keep my heal orb in front of me while i 1v3 the enemy back line. I like to use it as a “if you want my heals you have to take this position” or i put it around a corner to hold the enemy back

@@marvynjeanbaptiste3206 I think that was just for April's fool

It’s so funny how people will see an orb and immediately move away from it even though it doesn’t do that much damage

@@highonsugar6273 If you’re a tank it’s not a problem but you gotta admit. Squishies get rolled when not at full health

@@highonsugar6273 damage orb can kill any squishy if they stand in it lmaooo

LOL Moira is the EASIEST character to play in the game at the moment, takes little to no skill to master her and this is coming from a moira GM from last season I wanted to try a real challenge this season and picked up tracer BOYYYY you don't know HARD till you play Tracer, deff only for the skilled.

@@Anime_Empire_2.0 ive played tracer and she isnt that hard my guy haha

@@c05rs most people say Tracer is the hardest character in the game tho

@@Ethan-nl2wg She really, truly isn't. You flank, 1 clip/pulse a support, and then recall back & reengage. Every single tracer plays like this past diamond.

​@c05rs Well, I'd argue that practice makes perfect Yes, It's annoying getting a feeding Moira trying to dps but it takes practice And I'm a Moira main who learnt alot of do's and don'ts of dpsing It also depends on the players' specific weaknesses since some players will play better against certain players than others

Im only silver but i know i could climb to at least play if i played more. And I 100% agree the things moira can do impacts the game a lot. It’s honestly just common sense that “you can’t kill my teammates if you’re focused on me” but if you can’t kill me then how will you kill my teammates? She’s not orisa so you can’t ignore moira (or at least me) can keep peeling in and out.

your g1/p5 thats why people don't know how to play against you, the higher you go the better the enemies get. Moira in my ranks get beamed btw I'm GM M M

@@Dark-tu4st im a gm3 moira 1 trick... she doesn't get beamed if you have ACTUAL map knowledge and know who u can easily duel or waste their team, 1 thing to learn while being a dps moira is to question yourself ''is my time worth less then theirs'' and if their time is more valueable just waste their time by chipping them, thats how u climb as a dps moira

"I’m g1/p5 support for context, but dps Moria, to me, is just the most impactful you can be as a support" That's exactly why you peaked at plat 5

The best way to play her is not playing her

Please don't.

😂

DPS Moira= Innovative I’m sorry but if the healers on the other team die less by either winning the 1v1s, positioning better, getting peel from tank/dps, there’s no way this would work. That’s why it is so good on ladder, because you just can’t get consistent peel, and people on ladder aren’t as good compared to OWL.

I think people seriously underestimate a good Moira. She can flank better than some DPS, and that mobility is what lets her work this way. Moira is a chip damage character, and weaponizing that to harass and pressure vulnerable backlines is where her utility comes from. One minute she can be pushing the Ana to retreat or pick her off entirely, the next she can throw herself behind a Rein or Ram shield and dump her healing into her team. She has the highest healing per second output in the game at 70, which can be doubled to 140 if you use her healing orb as well. And even if you don’t and prefer damage, the damage orb will farm your healing juice while you’re dumping into your tank. For me I like to stay around my tank and help pick off kills before they can disengage, but sometimes you do have to dive yourself and eliminate the mercy or Bap to ensure a win for the team fight.

plats and below are Gonna have to much fun with this

It’s literally the only good part about the character

@@funkyyukiedits moira has the most healing output out of the entire roster, her ticklefest damage isn’t what you should be focusing.

​@@ewaysrevenge you know that self healing counts too?

@@ewaysrevenge shes an extremely 2 dimensional character. Yes she can heal a lot but what about Ana who can sleep and anti? Mercy who can res and boost? Not going to list every example but supports are not just “healers”. Her DPS is actually her only value. But that’s it. There’s a reason why she’s not meta.

Kill the other support as fast as you can-> Deny res ->kite tank away ->focus mercy.

🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking the same thing when we were editing after finishing the voice over

If the orb is bouncing in an enclosed space it's pretty easy to deflect, and suddenly those 300 HP go to the Genji instead of Moira, that should be kept in mind.

@@mefit8725 Even in that scenario the nature of Moira's tracking beam/self heal vs. Genji's shurikens means she'll still win the 1v1 through sheer self-healing 90% of the time, unless the Genji knows how to be accurate with the line shurikens & chain headshots on her.

@@g0lddustt29 Hell no, if a genji deflects your heals in an enclosed space you're dead if the genji isn't bronze.

​@mefit8725 by the time that happens she will fade. The trick is having both down no moira actually flanking will be caught with out 1 or the other the moment u deflect it ill just crouch strafe and self healing will be enuff to get me fade to which I'll fade away get distance the throw the orb behind me where u can't deflect and just win

thats funny when you say they heal so much only to ult charge not because it is the point, lol!

@@MilitanT07 point of what?

really?😂

We have 2 genji videos available already, but we'd definitely love to work with more genji players

This video is not a good input, don't play Moira

It’s not a secret

Uhhhh no... she only has damage and heals compared to every other support that that do that plus more. Flats said it best, Moira is a 2D character in a 3D game.

@@itsdemonz9814 i agree, they need to rework her kit so she isn't a 2 dimensional heal and dmg only machine

Moira player a gigachad lmao

I agree

Haha no.

Absolutely false. Pro players and good content creaters say you can get out of the metal ranks easily with Moira. After that, it will be harder to play Moira due to her kits simplicity.

I one tricked Moira to GM in OW1 doing DPS style and it was so easy. I could spawn camp entire plat teams by myself. DPS moira has always been extraordinarily powerful whether the teams are coordinated or not, it just takes good positioning and aggressive usage of combined damage orbs with secondary fire/ult

take away mouse tracking

If there's a dps diff I think this playstyle is actually MORE valuable. If your DPS are as good as or better than the enemy, then you can get a lot of value by healing them. If they're worse, then you'll be healing them only to for them to not do much. I think one of the more valuable plays you can make with this playstyle is forcing the Ana to waste her nade on herself, though. Because it's basically a hard counter to Moire if she lands it on your team and you don't have a Kiriko. This can work even if you are mostly healing.

direct comparison would be mei, moiras beam is double her range. sym is 12 meters. however, moiras beam isnt like any other beams, but chooses targets automatically/assisted the same way many other support skills would do. (think of kiriko healing) most ppl guessed that correctly till a dude named BTC spread misinfo like crazy lol

we accidentally set it to public before it was ready to ship, so we put it back to private, but when we changed it back to public, the algorithm died x_x so we just chose to reupload.

If we can get in touch with a tracer player :)

We get them directly from the players

Moira an Aim in the same sentence makes me laugh

Moira is just a trash hero that requires close to no skill and definetly not aim lmao

You are coping so hard how do you watch this gameplay and think: „wow, good aim“ watch people play actually mechanically demanding heros and you will see what good aim looks like

​@meowkii_ Funnily enough, Moira is my main and Ana is my secondary.. Sounds like to me you have a copium problem yourself lol