It’s insane how little respect BSG has for their loyal player base. I think this is genuinely the end of tarkov. We’ve finally escaped boys.

For $250, you could buy yourself and 5 of your friends a copy of Helldivers.

Lead dev Nikita literally had a GDC panel about how to get away with not holding promises to player base, and his first advice was to use early access cos its allow to change everything without legal repercussions cos technically game isnt finished product and you are selling not a product but sneak peak

Reminds me of Animal Farm. The pigs would also go change the wording of the rules in the middle of the night when the other animals were sleeping.

their mistake is listing the price at $250 instead of $249.99

Escape from Debt: 2024.

This is a blessing in disguise, gamers chance to show they still hold some cards. Let the game die completely in record speed, never touch bsg products again. Forget them completely and the messeage will be sent, and it will burn the hand of the reciver.

In some places it's like: monthly rent = tarkov Like it's literally a quarter of minimal pay per month. I can get groceries for that month in around the same amount of money. Get my car filled with gas from empty to full 5 times and drive it for 3 months. I can get that, or get tarkov to play co-op solo, because nobody out of my friends will get it to play it too, since it's just a bonkers price tag.

Thank you Bethesda, for adding horse armor to Oblivion. Snowball effect is crazy.

2024: $250 for a game.... 2028: $1000 for "unique" armbands

$250 is a special price point companies have started using this year (from what I noticed). Mobile games in particular use this specific number based on metrics and how much they think they can milk from people. When loot boxes became illegal in different countries, companies started employing this $250 magic number (specifically Chinese game developers). I wonder if there’s a correlation here…

Its like a an offer on free eggs at a store and the cashier says, "Its not an egg, It's a thing that is laid by a chicken that has a shell, and a yolk inside." lol

Isn't this fraud? If I bought the EoD edition prior to this change then I was promised access to all subsequent dlc. Not only are BSG not giving me the product I paid for, but they are charging me extra to get something I already paid for. "Yeah, you paid for this. But the deal has changed. Now you gotta pay double." This can't possibly be legal.

The entire player base escaping with this one

It's downright pathetic that they claim you can "play offline" with your friends. That's a stupidly bold faced lie. You MUST BE ONLINE and connected to the internet to play with friends. You can't be offline unless you're in the same room on the same console and it's a game that supports split screen or local multiplayer like Super Smash Bros or the Mario Kart/Party games. Who in their worthless company thought this was worth $250?

This is not a first time, Mush dash, a rhythm game, had a bundle called "just as planned", where they stated all future dlc would be included. They later introduced a dlc that's not included within this bundle. After player backlash, they walked back the announcement. Players bought this bundle can still have all dlcs, but they no longer offer this bundle to new players. Instead new players can buy a downgraded version of this bundle, which offers almost all dlcs, but with some exceptions.

Its literally pay to win. Like AI will shoot at you less if you pay for it is absolutely insane

Unheard is effectively a replacement for an older version of the game which cost about $150, "Edge of Darkness." Edge of Darkness was billed as "get every update/expansion/DLC for Tarkov." Now they changed the deal: EOD does not include all the stuff in "Unheard." Unheard by itself costs $250 and if you have EOD in order to get the features in Unheard you gotta pay an additional $100. Moreover, there is an unauthorized version of the game called "Singleplayer Tarkov" SPT. SPT has been around for years. SPT _REQUIRES_ users to own a legit, paid-for version of EFT to run (it is not piracy, though admittedly it is a breach of TOS). SPT allows you to play offline in singleplayer mode (though no coop). SPT runs just as well or better than EFT. There are many mods for SPT which allow the user to expand and adjust the game as they please. Effectively SPT is 97.5% of the joy of Tarkov: but with ZERO of the bullshit of Live Tarkov (cheaters, long queue times, grindy game mechanics that can be modded to the users tastes). There is a graphics mod for SPT which improves performance AND appearance of the game dramatically. There are no other players in SPT, all opponents are Bots. Those Bots are BETTER than the ones in Live (and in Unheard) and in some ways even more challenging than non-cheating players. And all of this takes place after the "Wiggle That Killed Tarkov" saga from about a year ago in which a player bought cheats and demonstrated how pervasive cheating is in the game (it is epidemic). You actually did a video on that video by KZfaqr G0aT.

Gamers need to stop supporting games developers that behave this way. Long as greed is supported they will continue to push for more and more

The biggest issue is that EOD players were told they'd get access to all subsequent DLC, such as the offline coop mode, but they're not.

The changes for the EOD afterwards is actually illegal. Mindblowing how dumb DEVs can be.

I own a copy of Tarkov, we've always complained that there should be a PvE mode (even just a single player would do) just so that we don't get smoked by sweats after coming home from our jobs, and these same sweats laugh at us telling us to just get good, with the developers telling us that it would never happen. Then people just decided to create a single player mod for Tarkov, which then the developers banned, and your Tarkov account could get banned if you used this mod. Now, they want us to pay for that exact same thing. Good luck with that, it should have been a part of the standard edition, and player accounts should have never been banned for playing SP Tarkov.

Well, I'm being quick and honest, the new knife in the pack is an asset purchased from the Unity store that wasn't even reworked, just thrown as a $250 gift

3:05 "I'm not sure what to do with my hands" -Ricky Bobby

There's no wiggling their way out of this after all that has happened.

As someone who purchased the EOD edition and after looking at my emails, I can confirm that it says: -Guaranteed instant access to closed beta -Digital copy pre-load -Huge size of stash (10x66) -Additional equipment and resources in stash -Initially good standings with all in-game traders -Unique in-game ID -Free access to all subsequent DLCs (Season pass) Edit: I purchased it in december 2019

Incursion Red river is a good alternative. Its got single player and coop. $16 vs $250. The game is in early access but the team has been consistantly updating and fixing things since the game came out a few weeks ago.

here in south Africa, that's 2 and a half months of student accommodation. If I spend $15 on a game then I cant buy food for a week.

In the EU store the price doesn’t include tax and fees which is against EU law. The total comes up to 330 euros.

250$ for an offline co-op version of the same game? Who the fuck does this studio think they are?

Meanwhile the complete editions of Skyrim and the Witcher3 can still be had for under 80 in 2024. Thousands of hours of content.

Here is the thing. I've owned Tarkov for nearly 4 years. I've played a total of maybe 20 hours. 12 of those hours were using a solo mod. I own the EOD edition, and I'd come back to play the PVE mode with friends, if not just to try it. I work a lot, so I'd probably even spend money on microtransactions. This could bring back players who do not have time to commit to a game with such a large skill ceiling. Those returning players could potentially get their friends to buy the game or even just return to it. What were they thinking?

They've literally trippled down, fuck em. Grey Zone Warfare looking real good now.

i'm so blackpilled about video games monetization that the only thing I can think of when seeing this is ''doesn't matter, people will empty their wallets like brain dead zombies just like all sport games players. The outrage doesn't matter, Madden and co get record sales each year that passes''.

11:38 LOOK AT THAT FLAWLESS ANIMATION. great job editor that was simply stunning xdx

Could you imagine if Larian Studios made everyone purchase Acts 2 and 3 in Baldur's Gate 3? AFTER purchasing the standard game? Yeah... Lol

Im a tarkov player who had owned EoD for 6 years. Thank you for covering this. We need loud voices.

You rent all these things for $250… we all know if the company goes under, your “purchases” won’t equate to anything.

The "unheard" edition is so ironic, 250$ is absolutely insane on top of fucking over everyone they promised free DLC too.

content creator voicepacks would go so hard, they could even bring back some creators who haven't played in a while but have drops and stuff like shrowdy

Wait wait wait, hear me out In order to play co-op with a team of 4 people That's $1000 Could we let that sink in? We're all focused so hard on $250. It has a four-player co-op mode, you guys. That means $1000 needs to be spent to play with 4 people co-op.

The Devs of Tarkov couldn't have chosen a worse time to pull this stunt. Grey Zone warfare should be released later this year, Grey Zone is a large open world, which Tarkov originally promised that it was working towards. I could easily see a lot of Tarkov players jumping ship once Grey Zone is released.

the stalker 2 collectors edition was 200 and it is supposed to come with a ton of actual physical stuff with it. Its insane spending 250 and getting nothing you can hold in your hand

It's more than $250, because they don't include taxes in the display price, but you can't see the final price unless you create an account on their site. So everyone says that it's $250, when it's actually more like $300-350 after taxes, depending on your region. Same for the upgrade from Edge of Darkness edition, it's not just $100 but more like $125-150.

250 DOLLARS!?!?!? does it come with a slap to the face also?

As almond said, you have a game where the community is willing to pay £150 for an edition and won't complain about microtransactions. In the way they were discussing microtransactions "cosmetic only" we were okay with. Then it was additional stash lines (more storage), it honestly helps a lot early wipe, you have more room for more kits so everyone kind of agreed it slightly pay to win but they need the revenue. The community was pissed that they put so many resources into Arena for it to flop and them need the revenue but it died down into "well they tried something to generate revenue so they don't depend on cheaters and rmt rebuying the game. It flopped. But we love tarkov so find another way to generate revenue". The subreddit was literally begging them to charge us like £10 for a cat/dog for our hideout, so we could contribute. Instead of something like that.. we have this. A massive FU to EOD accounts and a system that leans heavily into pay to win. Sad times

Tarkov should add OverPowered guns like MiniGun, Grenade Launcher, Flamethrower, RPG and Railgun. Except they can only be used until ammo runs out and are Super Rare finds within chests/loot sources. You Can Only Hold 1 Special Grade/OverPowered weapon per person as well making them less likely to hold like 5 in inventory or something. - Minigun with like 100-200-250, Charges Up then Fires very fast, but little damage 2-5 per bullet yet fires like 5-10 a second so it runs out of ammo quickly, has a very high recoil and is very heavy when you hold it so running drains more stamina when it's out and you're much slower while holding it out. Makes a Loud rrr...rrrr...RRRR... charging it's spin to fire and can be held with aiming. Also, when you fire while standing it increases recoil and crouching reducing the recoil or mounted on a ledge wiping out recoil completely. - Grenade Launcher has 6 grenades either explode on impact, explode 1-2 seconds after hitting the ground or doing the same but also can damage if you hit someone directly, but either won't explode or has a timer or Explodes on Contact Depending on Range hit. - FlameThrower ticks damage over time 3-5 damage per tick and/or lights enemy on fire doing 1+dmg every 0.5 seconds or 2dmg/sec. - RPG/Rocket Launcher does AoE dmg 60-100 based on where it hits and 100 on direct impact. - RailGun will take like 5-10/20+(whatever feels right) seconds to charge and 1 shots anywhere or cripple's a limb if it's not a head shot so bleeding out. 1 round and you can find rounds and has a 15-20% to break with only 5shots total or less if it feels too OverPowered. Also, it makes a very loud BRRRRrrrrrrr or a ticking like br...br...Br...BRRR(when it's done and fully charged.) So it'll 1 shot, but also would reveal your position to anyone very easily.

In poland you have to pay 1350 polish zloty + vat (country lowest salary is around 3200zl post tax)

Crazy how this new PTW edition costs the same amount as an Xbox Series S

i thought it was 250 pesos argentinos cuz theres no fucking way people are paying 250 dolars into a 10yo game

Some people in this world pay a game license for a 300+ bucks (depends on currency and taxes) some others in this world buy a car for below 500 bucks that is actually fine to drive for at least 2 years according to MOT kekw, besides that the pay 2 win factor is enormous ..

Technically, from a legal perspective (under US law, which may or may not be the system that applies here, to be fair) this would not be "false advertising". It would be more of a breach of contract issue. That's not all that important a distinction, though. False advertising has to happen at the original purchase -- like they knew when they sold the $150 version that they were not going to deliver on promised content. If they delivered in the original sale what they said they were going to deliver, then it's not false advertising. The issue is whether they had a contractual obligation to provide the $150 bundle purchasers with access to the new content at no extra charge. As always, whether or not this is actionable will depend heavily on the actual wording of the TOS/EULA for the $150 version. Like, what *exactly* were people promised? It'll come down to typical legal wordsmithing in the end. Then there's the problem of damages. If it is in fact a breach of contract, how do you measure the damages? You did in fact get some value out of the game, so a 100% refund isn't realistic. Someone who has played 15,000 hours is going to have a hard time claiming "I didn't get my money's worth". It's like saying "This sucks and I ought to know. I played it every day for the last four years." So assuming it is a breach of contract, and the TOS/EULA allows for a lawsuit or class action or whatever, the question is what fraction of $150 are the players entitled to have refunded. At what point is it simply not worthwhile to sue? Yes, this means companies can do shady shit like this and effectively get away with it because of how contract law works -- at least in the US. I'm not defending the publisher here. I just think it's important for people to understand how the law is likely to treat something like this.

They outclassed Ubisoft. They should've named it "The Unbought Edition".

Tony Pizza and Asmongold in a discord call talking about tarkov. Worlds collide, man.

lets keep in mind you dont have to pay the full 250 if you already have an edition you only have to pay the difference i did this going through each edition one at a time gets even lower if you wait for a sale i also dont play the game anymore so they may have changed this

And people try to argue that buying this instead of the simple version is not pay to win

remember ppl The OFFLINE Mode can be downloaded for free... the same one BSG is charging you 250$ for

One of the best thing about Helldivers 2 (besides the fact that this is an amazing games for 40$) is that it makes all others micro transactions "live service" games looks so ridiculous

My main gripe with Tarkov is that they didn't add immersive "advanced" FPS features like free aim. They also don't really seem to care about feedback, we've had a number of passionate presentations in the EFT forum including for free aim, but there's barely any interaction or signs of adopting suggestions as far as I can tell.

i was crazy enough to get the eod version, but it said that with the EOD version comes upcoming DLC too, pretty sure they can go to court with that no?

I thought a wiggle killed Tarkov

You can say the price is Unheard of.

Imagine, I honestly was thinking to try Tarkov again, I was checking for any recent change recently and found out this, I was thinking I would go back to it if these features were added to the regular edition (not even the 150 bundle because I wouldn't pay for that), and instead...

Very much enjoyed this live interview style content. Not a tarkov player but this was a nice insight.

*Spends 250$* *gets email that reads "you no longer have access to our digital product due to your license expiring"* *proceeds to kick the corner of a concrete wall in frustration *

Changing the mesh does not make it a different knife, they probably reduced the poly count that's it. Probably reduced the poly count and used an exact normal map of the asset store knife. Basically optimizing it for their game.

So it also says this "The additional fees are not included in the price. The final cost will be presented before the payment. Different payment methods include different fees." right over the 250$

Great convo and as an EOD owner of 4 years with over 4K hours in the game, I am glad you had Lvndmark on to walk you through all this. It hits different in Tarkov because BSG and their COO Nikita Buyanov spent the last 7 years proudly taking the anti-MTX stance aside from the "3 pre-order editions" when it comes to Tarkov. They took a firm stance from day 1 that aside from the 3 additions to help support and fund development, you would never have to pay for anything that would create and unfair in-raid experience or for anything that wasn't also available to earn for free in the game. Today was the first time everything they stood for and preached went down the drain; and when combined with the lies and deception and scummy behavior, it just hits like a tidal wave to the face.

2:43 Greatest jumpscare of all: 250 dollars!!!!!!

the most important thing with the 150 edition it was promissed you will get any future content in this game for free cause you are an early adopter and financed the game from the start and you dont get any of the new 250 $ edition content if you own the edge of darkness edition you have to upgrade for 100$ das beyond greedy the rational decision would be to give the edge of darkness owners all unheard edition things for free AS PROMISED and before it was not pay to win... to pay for convinience you could get everything by playing the game the edge of darkness edition had it just took longer

I remember forking out the money for the EOD in 2019 to support the devs because I saw great potential in the game. I was always waiting for a no wipe mode or a pve so even if I get off the grid for a while I dont have to restart all over again and again. If I knew they were going to greed this hard even without finishing their base game I would not have bought it. So basically EOD's hidden bonus was a kick in the nuts.

Didn't everyone already hate it because it was full of cheaters? I remember that video of the guy tilting side to side and the other cheaters responding.

In the Philippines, a dollar is worth P57.74. This game costs P14,435.00, probably without taxes yet (haven't checked in Steam yet).

Bro hit us with "You wouldn't download a car would you?". I died inside. I haven't heard that shit in so long XD

I had the Edge of Darkness Edition so the upgrade to Unheard only cost me $100USD. It has no character wipe and PvE games with friends. The reason I stopped playing Tarkov was because of no PvE option and especially the character wipe. I'm happy to pay for what I wanted years ago.

One game that did this in an acceptable way (in my opinion), is Killing Floor 2. They put that game out in 2016 and regularly (several times a year) would add content. New maps. New enemies. New skins and whatnot. I remember everybody got pissed at the devs of that game for deciding to add paid content, after they had been giving free content to their community for 5+ years at this point. They supported this game and gave the players free maps, enemies, modes and everything, I think them deciding to make new weapons and monetizing them isn't bad at all cause they needed to support the game they have been supporting for mostly free. They even made it so only 1 player in a match needed the DLC for everybody in the match to utilize it, and it unlocked those weapons for the duration of that game, so if the player with the DLC leaves the game, the remaining players can still use those guns. I thought it was ingenius how they handled it. And still today, they put out free events, and release maps regularly, for free. Those paid guns and skins they made just allowed them to grace us with the Killing Floor 3 announcement we just got this last month. And it amazes me that other companies keep shooting themselves in the groin.

"Do they have regional pricing?" They have a regional F you in the A. 15% extra tax plus currency conversion.

I bought the eod edition for the extra storage space not for dlcs. But I can’t believe a single player edition is $100 more. I’d pay $25 more but $100 more 🤦‍♂️

A couple of important notes here. - The elimination of EOD was planned. It was supposed to be a limited edition. Their then-highest version of the game, after EOD was removed, was still $110. - EOD version had access to "all future DLCs" as part of the bundle. PvE mode was classified by the devs NOT as a DLC. They said they don't consider it a DLC... even though that is clearly what it is. - They've since given PvE mode to EOD edition, but only after the game fully releases, and presumably, only after they have time to tell if it is a viable mode. The more intelligent move would have been to include it with Standard and, therefore, ALL editions of the game. That would draw PvE enjoyers into the game as a whole, and potentially growing the overall player base. Instead, they've added a mode that no one requested, into a bundle no new player will want, and did a slimy thing where they claimed they didn't consider it a DLC, so they could charge everyone for it. They could have potentially grown their entire player base and increased the game's overall scope, but instead, they pressed F for GREED and lost.

When the trailer said "No wipes" inside Asmons head he thought "Well, I haven't wiped in 15 months, big deal"

Fuck it let's do a 500$ edition now

I appreciate y ou covering this topic even though you don't play the game. Just sharing this with your fanbase helps tremendously. Thank you!

My first time watching asmond was litterally him watching the goat video about tarkov cheaters. Iv watched every vod ever since. And tarkov has been my main game since before even that. To hear him and LVND in on this is mind blowing rn. W

Nikida makes me want to scream. Holy. 90% of changes they made to that game made me glad i don't play it anymore.

My biggest pet peeve with us is that when I became a backer I just came in 2016. I was so hopeful that the game would succeed. When they started releasing the standard edition for purchase, I bought two accounts so that my friends could play with me. Try the game before they bought it themselves I probably got about nine or 10 people to get into the game After they got burnt out I bought two more EOD accounts so that brings my account total to five. So that I could run a full group, and my friends wouldn’t feel pressured into buying the game From doing that I probably got about 20 people to buy EOD alone and probably 30 to just buy standard I’ve been a backer from the start, I brought so many people into this game, and I just feel betrayed I don’t mind them trying to make money But if you release a PvE that holds progression, why not make it accessible to EOD holders?? All the other shit aside, I don’t care, but we wanted coop or offline from the get go and we just keep getting blue balled. On top of the fact that we knew all dlc would be free going forward. I gladly bought all the clothing even the BEAR(I’m usec) just to support, and I feel so brushed off.

In my country $250 are almost 350.000 pesos. You can buy lots of games with that cash, even consoles.

The pockets are such a massive thing. The 1x2 slots will be insane for early game advantage. F BSG 5k hours in game and I am out.

Food for a month or Tarkov: Tourist edition Such choices...

A Quest 2 - Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset - 128 GB cost 199 $

Surely they won't add being able to call in your buddies as backup to the live aspect of the raids right? that changes everything if they do that. If they do there has to be some kind of consequence for you and your avengers like a cool down period or something otherwise u could just potentially steamroll over any player engagements u may have or at least give yourself a fucking huge leg up in that situation...that's bs!

I upgraded to EoD back in December. BSG already got about $200 out of me, I'm not dropping another 200+ on it.

250$ is an extreme price for a videogame in the current market. Just to put that into comparison that's nearly a Nintendo Switch, half of a PS5, or 4 copies of most games. My point being: With that much money you would hope there would be something tangible for all that.

Yo whats even worse they removed Flea Market slots to deal with hackers and now they're selling more slots with this $250 edition. Like for real? you remove something then charge out the ass to get it back!!

2:43 channeled his inner Hank Hill like a true Texan

"How are you quantifying the value there?" Meanwhile, in the studio: "Guys, I have a great idea to increase our revenue by 67%!" "How?" "Let's make a new edition and sell it for $250." "You're promoted to CEO!"

"S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly" with mods has completely replaced "Escape from Tarkov" for me.

Actually it's pay to lose. Game had a self admitted hacker problem.

I originally bought the base edition of this game 3-4 years ago, upon word of EOD being taken off the market and the addition of Arena i decided to buy in. 150$? crazy but the majority of people play this game 3-4 months at a time and when wipe happens the cycle repeats, and id say a 60$ game is worth 3-4 months of enjoyment so it made sense to buy in. However currently it seems EOD will just be put in the past as apposed to being similar to a "veteran edition" of people who supported the game early in its life.

"Unheard of Edition" is pretty damn accurate. These devs killed their game so fast.

$250 for a wall hack simulator