I think it was an academic at UCL that said that, but it is absolutely true.

Except the environment... which the Tories have no interest in conserving 😅

The current batch of torykippers are not interested in "conserving" much. They openly admit to being bomb-throwers. Brex$hit was the most profound manifestation of this, but not the only one. The only explanation I can find for the electoral success they've had is Jezz Steptoe. The "conservative with a small c" voter that we're told pervades the UK electorate must surely see "they ain't us".

the young have lots to conserve, they're just too stupid to notice.

Sadly they are at the tail of an economic transition that has marked the West. Slow economic decline, since 1874, industries have become rust belt as globalisation and the global South, the Brics and Emerging Nations are calling more of the shots. It's the decline of the West. The World Economic Forum are in the driving-seat, a race to the bottom and across the West the diminution of high paying industrial jobs.

This.

I know right, I'm American and the gop is constantly rubbing their head wondering why people my age group like Obama and Bernie sanders not realizing that things like the crash of 08 left us high and dry for several years.

@@wakaisgood "Taught the correct ideology to vote for." And who exactly decides what that ideology is? Sounds like something you would find in an authoritarian state rather than a healthy functioning democracy, although calling what we have at the moment a 'healthy democracy' is generous.

@@wakaisgood You are insane!

​@@wakaisgoodAnybody over 65 should only have a vote that counts for 0.25 of a vote since they'll have less lifetime to enjoy their influence. Brexit, prime example... Favoured by older people for whom plenty will have died before any impact on their lives, leaving no future for the young.

I think Mr Albanese is on a sticky wicket, like the German Coalition. The Post War Liberal Bretton Woods era is over. The West set the agenda, the dollar was the world reserve currency and Washington and it's allies called the shots - the decline of the West is visible. Security is going out of the window, even for the Chevron LNG workers. The World is a-changing. Brics countries are a force to be reckoned with, particularly for you. Australia is going to need some powerful friends. Sad about Ukraine but The hawks in Washington are probably going to lose. They backed the wrong horse in a 2 horse race. The global South have not jumped behind the West. Hawks in Washington, are losing interest in Ukraine and now it's China instead of Russia, that is the bad guy in the Western main stream media, that Taiwan is becoming the new Ukraine.

​​​@@wakaisgoodhahahahahaha anyone over 65 is just mentally drained and waiting to die, they shouldn't be allowed to vote because they very rarely know what's going on and are easier to manipulate, the government should have an hourly mandatory daily update program instead of stupid antique programmes for antique people. 😂

@@wakaisgood Thats called brainwashing their bud.

​@@wakaisgoodright wing tried to get younger people on their side and now that it doesn't work the solution is to try to remove their voting rights. If the younger were raging right wing supporters the voting age wouldn't have mattered

@@wakaisgood I am in full agreement. We wouldn't want them to have too many good ideas, would we?

Indeed, they prefer to pocket the money that would otherwise be spent on your education and healthcare. Then they'll import Labour from India to do the jobs you're not qualified to do. It's happening now.

Young people don't vote, and most pensioners vote for things that are particularly destructive for the younger generation

Uk needs to vote a far right leader asap or ur country will be done in 20 years

It's equal opportunity ruination, many of us are feeling it. Jablička, London, 55, female.

​@theteamxxx3142 "the right wing party has been doing a shit job for years so let's go further right" Yeah flawless logic. Why don't you screw off to North Korea if you like fascists so much?

Which election did you vote conservative in?

​@@Splooshua.They turned 18 in 1985, so the election after that, probably.

Agree, there is definitely a spirit of '68 in the air and the feeling that the establishment are not listening to us.

​@@wakaisgoodgo away trollbot, if your old enough to fight for your country then you have right to vote for who leads.

ALL politicians ly to get votes. I you ask an average person on the street what politics did to improve their lives they often can't say anything. And that is even worse in a 2 party democracy like in the UK and (former) /empire commenwealth countries. Giving one the mushroom treatment (keep them in the dark and feed them shit) is one of the political governing rules that was defined by Canadian politics. Or one remark on a hot mike from one of our politicians here in the Netherlands who stated that people are way to stupid to vote! The least worst political system we have the democracy system is under threath. the French philosofer Montesquieu who gave us the Trias Politca in the west said. To become really great you have to stand with the people not above them. Even after 350+ years after his passing his logic holds on goverment and politics

True, but for the majority of people financial security itself is tied to age (granted some younger people are lucky to be financially secure at a younger age or have financial support from older relatives).

Same thing happening in US. Millennials and Women saved the Democrats in November Midterms.

​@@FightTheByte_suit yourself. My only complaint is how taxes get spent - I want them invested in the country, not spaffed on corrupt crony contracts with Tory chums Fix that, and I am happy to see my taxes put to good use 🙂

The funny thing is that the older and wealthier I got, the more I drifted to the left. My motivation is that I realise that most policies promoted by the right wing parties are not conservative any more to begin with, and they are not sustainable in the long term. It is not possible to perpetuate an economic system that leaves so many on the side. This is not good for the system itself, and I am invested in that system. I do not want a revolution. Besides, I am totally disgusted by the naked populism and often corruption by many of the right wing leaders.

@@arpandas2243 And Gen Z is voting at higher rates than any generation before.

We're glad to have you aboard, then 😁

Climate Change is a scam

40 is young

@@grigandyNot really

@@grigandy No, 40 is middle-aged, particularly when talking about political voting brackets. "Young people" is generally considered to be the 18-25 or 18-30 bracket, in this context.

I completely agree however I think that people vote conservative when they don’t want things to change aka they don’t want to lose things like you said.

It's also that the Conservatives don't do what it says on the tin - they do a lot of really radical, fringe ideas, especially economically If you want caution and continuity, the Tories don't offer that any more. That's why people like Rory Stewart are ex-Tories now

I totally agree. Also, Millennials have have had the Tories as their main government in power during most of their adult life. For Gen-Z, they've had Tories their entire adult life. During that time, things haven't been exactly wonderful for us! Life is more expensive, Brexit was super unpopular with younger generations, add in the environmental policies, housing problems, LGBT values, and everything else which are important topics to younger voters, and It's no wonder the Tories struggle with younger generations. If they keep targeting older voters, at the detriment of younger voters, then younger voters are going to want change, just for any hope in positive change

The Tories generally screw things up. The economy for starters. Labour are better economic managers, yet they allow this false narrative that the Tories are. The Tories waste billions and funnel billions to their mates' companies. That's what privatisation is all about. Not better services.

Totally agree. The Tories have had almost many PMs in 13 years as Labour have in the last century. They’ve gone from increasing tuition fees to Brexit, both of why have p*ssed off young people something chronic and they wonder why younger voters won’t give them the time of day. All just to appease age demographic that have never had it better. The Tories have dug their own grave and when they’ve buried themselves, it’ll be millennials and Gen Z dancing on it

Over the ditch here in NZ things are a bit weird right now - the Right have more support than they should from millenials and gen Z.

I'm American, and I wish millennials were only ignored by conservatives, instead of actively robbed. We're stuck with the bill for boomers' decades of tax breaks, decades of poor infrastructure investment, the destruction of private sector pensions, pulling up the ladder on university funding, an unaffordable housing market that only makes sense if you already own investment properties, and the fact that we'll pay into social security our whole lives, and then get next to nothing when it's our turn to retire.

​@@katzicaelWhat do you mean more than they should?

@@katzicaelthey don’t want to be replaced by immigrants

It doesn't work like that. What happens is as you grow older you realise that you know nothing about the world until your about 30. You then realise all the young people vote for the wrong party's as they are clueless on how the world works. In otherworld, you will grow out of it.

They conserve the profits of the rich and their corporations.

They conserve their track record of scandals and shittiness

We need far right parties in europe again . They would actually conserve and fix problems . Every right party in eu works for the WEF so there’s no difference with voting left or right

they do conserve. they conserve the current status quo of low taxes for rich people, regressive social ideas and fossil fuels being the predominant source of energy. they conserve bad ideas.

They conserve the dignity of the upper echelons of society. So they do not have to associate with the masses, the common and rough rump of Britain.

Council house sales kept working class Tory voters with “too much to lose” onside. But there are no more desirable council houses to buy and that demographic is ageing. Having sold off the family silver the Tories have shafted themselves. Older Tory supporters are more likely to vote but that’s also running out of road. So they’re stuffed. Expect the next few elections to be fought in the gutter as that’s all that’s all they have left …

Hence they’ll probably resort to culture war shit, which I’m SURE will increase their appeal to the youth who as we know are so very socially conservative!!1!

"This means that in order for the torys to truly regain new generations as they age they have to abandon neoliberal Thatcherite economics." Thatcherism is idolised both by Labour and the Conservative Party. Indeed as you concluded, pigs will fly before these ideologies are ditched by the parties capable of governing.

100% agree. I personally believe that the rise in right wing populism around the world is a direct consequence of the failure of the neoliberal economic 'system'. For the last 3-4 decades politicians of both parties have effectively bribed voters using the proceeds of asset stripping and leverage to fund spending, tax cuts and pensions. Now there is no wealth left in the system to extract, this illusory growth is broken. Similar things have happened in the corporate word with ever increasing levels of leverage and profit extraction by the financial markets. Consequentially the Right now has nothing left to offer politically apart from culture wars hence the rise all over the western world in right wing populism. The reality is Sunak has no alternative to pursue because the only likely route to growth AND wealth distribution now requires a fundamental shift to interventionist economic policies that will be antithetical to most conservatives. Even the financial markets confirmed this in their reaction to the Truss budget (i.e. the gilts crisis). The last fundamental economic policy shift (the end of the post war consensus and shift to neoliberal monetarism under Thatcher) put the Tories in power for nearly two decades. It's therefore entirely possible that a similar fundamental economic policy shift (as is already happening in the USA under Biden's stimulus policies) could result in a similar enduring political shift to the Left.

Good analysis. It's why they still support the tripple lock on pensions. Retired people are the richest demographic in the country and get pay increases in line with inflation. Meanwhile, nurses havent had a payrise that's matched inflation since 2008. We get poorer every year yet the elderly are never worse off. One day, the elderly will die and then there will be nobody left to vote Conservative. The sad thing is that by the time most millenials will be financially secure enough (once major reforms take place), they will be far too old to have children. We are unable to start families in our 60s. We are a forgotten generation

Yeah, but why are they changing their voting behaviour?

​@mr.netflix9149 we can see Thatcher's claim that "there is no such thing as society" is nonsense. We know we are part of society, and want leaders who strengthen it rather than dismantle it

​@@mr.netflix9149Because it was never about age. It was about wealth and home ownership. The housing crisis has stopped people supporting the Tories and they can't fix it while keeping to their Tory values. They can only make things worse.

@@markwelch3564 To thatcher everyone up north eventually said: "No such thing as you!"

If there are multiple generations of young people, then those young people are now old people aren't they?

Very true, though politicians generally are short termists and only care about your vote.

Considering that Australia's birth rate currently sits at a meager 1.5, the focus on older voters is if anything a long term play. in the coming decades, younger people will have less and less of a say in politics.

@@greyghost2492 Guess we should start a new covid huh?

I THINK YOU PROVE THE EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE. Your village is missing you, I don’t know why as your not very bright.

Sorry - non-Brit here. Can't say that I recognise that reference?

@@draco84oz See You Next Tuesday. It’s another way of saying the C word 😛

Federal surveying of high school age boys in the US over the last three years seems to show that they are rapidly trending conservative. Not to say that this couldn't change by the time they are of voting age but it's an interesting observation!

when ya look at republicans right now, they are basically devolving into a terrorist organisation.

​@@slog656I'd wager that's because of people like Andrew Tate and anti-feminist and anti-women discourse online.

The GOP consistently talks down to the younger generation, attempts to take their voting rights away, and doesn’t listen to what they want. That’s why they will struggle to get those votes. Not to say there isn’t right wing young people, there certainly is, but there is a reasonable chunk that won’t vote for the GOP because of the stuff they’ve done.

@@undead_corsair no one cares about andrew tate lol. younger kids are realizing that the Democrat party inherently despises them for their immutable identity.

Yea I remember the tories getting in after my 1st election with the Lib Dems and a lot of us were tamping then, plus every year since has gotten worse and our generation getting blamed for everything 😅

I hope you live a lot longer than a decade.

@@blackbaron0me too. But we haven’t yet because we are young. All we know in politics are old conservatives screwing us over at every turn

I’m left wing but I disagree with the reasons for stagnant wage growth. If we actually had a laissez-faire economy yes there would be problems but people would at least actually be paid a decent salary. Instead we have free markets whenever it benefits corporations and the wealthy, while we get corporate welfare and arbitrary government controls whenever the free market would benefit your average person.

@@Dylan-hy2zj wages have been stagnating in the US since 1983, can’t speak to the UK but suspect it’s similar iirc the chart in video. I agree with everything else you said of course.

Your "instead" sentence is literally describing the direct results of laissez-faire capitalism. It's easy to say "well actually our system is different because corporations and the wealthy own everything so it's not REALLY free", but that's literally what capitalism is. Corporations and the mega rich control everything because the fundamental FOUNDATIONS of a profit incentive directly lead to that exact outcome.@@Dylan-hy2zj

at least thats the image portrayed and sold to its plebs

There's not a lot of truth in this anymore

Chin up - we're rooting for you. Your culture is at an inflection point - hopefully you'll all bounce back stronger and be setting us a good example.

Thank you!@@nathanaelsmith3553

You're in this metapolitics culture war over there. Shit is spreading everywhere like a disease with social media. Pathetic and desparate German conservatives like Markus Söder are trying to copy that demonizing "wokeness" and no one even knows what he is talking about lmao

These badly thought out green policies are stupid. You cant decarbonise if you are broke.

They'll leave the UK in such a shape that Labour will have an impossible job to complete. High hopes will be followed by similar levels of dissatisfaction and the Tories will have a good shot again in 2029, sadly.

@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia I'm not so sure. The conservative economic 'system' is thoroughly broken (as proven by Truss) so they have nowhere left to go politically, apart from increasing levels of right wing populism, infighting and political obscurity. The political trap that Sunak is caught in won't go away in opposition - look at the complete mess that the GOP is in across the pond. IMO it will take at least a decade, maybe more, for the Conservative Party to throw off the shackles of their entrenched ideology in order to be able to adopt an electable position in the current economic context. It's essentially the same political problem that Labour had in the 1980s

Well, more migration and related ethnic tensions and drainage of budget due to social spending, may help some conservatives... just not Tories.

The immigrants often lean conservative on a number of issues, it's an absolute fallacy to imagine they'd massively support the other side.

More immigrants will come. For all their talk they don't have the will to stop them. Don't confuse their words with their actions.

Or they can keep the over 65,# happy and bring a tax hammer down on the young even harder…

Exactly.. previous generations screw over the next. (No offense, that’s just been a trend.) This isn’t anything new- but it is more noticeable now. Housing is through the roof, and in some states insurance is skyrocketing on housing aswell. The fact employers here look for people with college experience and pay little is insane and it’s what drives people to go elsewhere (leave the country) and/or vote and I feel that’s why there’s so much minimum wage pushes aswell, people can’t pay for things on what.. $7.25 an hour in some states? That was set in 2009, that would be $10.13 today.

Lots of reasons. Some valid some less so. Also main vote for them simply cause of the electoral system and dont like any other party

Because they read in the paper that the man with the red rosette will sell their babies, or some other piece of old tosh that they'll fall for. And if they didn't read it in the paper, they heard it from someone that read it in the paper. There's no getting away from Murdoch and his ilk.

People vote Tory because they like the idea of being 'better' than others (whether that's gender, class, ethnicity, sexuality etc) and believe that betterness should translate into inequality in law. Cut through the specifics, and it's always "I should be allowed to do what I like to you because you're less of a person than me".

​@Silent002 what a stupidly dumb assessment.

Intelligence, only a complete idiot would vote Labour, they're highly underskilled, notoriously self serving, completely and utterly at odds with everything they say, 14 per cent of Labour are privately schooled meaning their working class root credentials are fake.

In fairness to the Tories - not a sentence i expected to say today...New Labour were the ones that devalued university degrees by hiding unemployment figures via pushing tens of thousands more young people into university degrees, cheapening the value of degrees themselves AND lumbering those people with a lifetimes debt few of them will ever repay before they are 50 and it's forgiven(ensuring a stealth tax on all their earnings between 23-50). The Tories however have allowed this debt-money mill to continue to plague the UK young.

Absolutely everything you have said is rubbish, for a start look at house prices in 1995 and compare them with 2010 (Labour). University made universities more expensive. We get taxed more because Labour left us in 811 billion black hole in 2008. Not being in the EU is itself a benefit, we missed out on paying a huge chunk of the 800 billion covid relief fund in EU, we have saved near enough 290 billion on EU vanity project budget contributions since 2016, we no longer have low skilled workers entering the country of which Labour invited over 8 million people. Every single Labour area in the country is a dump with high crime, rape, stabbings, shootings, grooming gangs, because they fail to manage their areas and budgets properly.

Seamus put the daily mail down.

Labour were the ones that made university useless and increased fees.

​@@marshgate24 Top comment. I find it fascinating how the print of a newspaper has an echo.

Well the saying is you don't know until you try it, vote Labour, just remember of a little thing called an ISA, which is where everyone anti Labour is sticking their money right now. Don't say we didn't try to warn you.

As a two-party system, have the Labour/Tory parties been weakened? I guess it depends what you mean. Of course, the Tories are currently weak (by their standards), but the Labour party is strong - very strong. That strength counterbalances any weaknesses of the Tories. Major's win in 1992 was the last time the two parties combined won more than 600 seats. In fact, since then, then has perhaps been a "notable" decline in the power of the Big 2, going from around 93% of seats won to around 87-88%. Perhaps more interesting is the popular vote. In 2010, the two parties picked up just 65.1% of votes overall - the lowest in the past 50 years. That election was sandwich between the 2005 and 2015, which accounted for the next two elections in which the big 2 picked up their lowest share of the popular vote in the past 50 years. But then in 2017, they picked up 82.3% of the vote - the highest of the twelve elections in the past fifty years. This was followed by 75.7% in 2019 - the third highest. I would agree that the political system in the UK needs an overhaul to make it fairer. But I'm not sure it will happen any time soon. As for individual parties, I think Labour's position has shifted around quite a bit. In recent times, it's gone from Blair's New Labour to Corbyn's more left-wing Labour, now veering back towards the centre ground. On the other hand, the Tories have been going further and further right wing. In some ways, their biggest threat potentially comes from the right. After years of driving the country into the ground, they're understandably getting trounced by Labour. With Labour occupying the centre ground, they are likely to win moderate voters. And even if they try and swing more to the centre, the far-right parties will be looking to hoover up many of the Tories' existing support. This is partly why, I'd say, they've veered more in that direction - to fend of the existing far-right. One thing I would say is you're right about the two-party system being harmful. Apart from anything else, there is no compromise, especially in the winner-take-all scenario that exists in UK politics. At least the rest of Europe doesn't seem to have that problem so much.

I really couldn't agree more* with you, Europe in general really needs proportional ranked-choice voting & corporatist class cooperation/Georgism duopolistic politics is a recipe for disaster as it is right now.

TAKES A LONG TIME WORKING AT MCDONALDS TO PAY BACK THAT USELSS DEGREE IN MEDIA.

Something something, the snake eats its own tail

Brexit just looked like a thinly veiled, often not even veiled at all, attempt to be xenophobic and push migrants away. The constant talk of "controlling borders" being a major issue with brexiteers, and the right wing xenophobes only turned their back on brexit once they learned that immigration is important for their country, brexit doesn't let them refuse all immmigrants, and also that the economic consequences were severe.@@jnorth

⁠@@tuna5618have you watched the recent EU press around this issue. Denmark and Sweden have policies on immigration and removing immigrants that would make conservatives blush. You might want to learn a bit about the world you live in. But your view is mired in hate, I love the way people like you talk about being enlightened but have the worst sort of fanciest views.

Yeah because left wing ones do so well…. Lol

@@tuna5618 Germany is just about to pass legislation that would allow their own version of Homeland Security to swiftly remove and deport immigrants. In Austria, the upsurge of illegal immigrants and asylum applicants has made the 'far-right' party number 1 in pools and the ruling party having its worst electoral performance since 1945. Uncontrolled immigration and the promotion of forced multiculturalism is only gonna fuel right-wing and far-right political parties on the long run. Especially when the effects of immigration come to be felt on every-day life.

Umm… have you seen Rishi Sunak? Or is he a ‘coconut’ ?

@@sdrawkcabUK You don't have to be white to be racist. There's significant racism within India. Have you seen Braverman?

@@danellis-jones1591 I've seen her attempt to implement a policy supported by the majority of British people and get called a coconut for her efforts

@@danellis-jones1591 Braverman is not from India her ancestors are Indian. She comes from Kenya/Mauritius both countries in Africa. As a so called ''hwhite person'' you are not inherently racist, but because white people from the western world have a deep history of practising racism to a degree where people have died. The stigma of racist is attached to white people.

@@sdrawkcabUK Because she is a coconut. She is utalizing racial doggwhistle talkingpoints in politics that is supported by a section of the English population who have anti-immigrant sentiments. These are same people that also look down on non-European people which includes ''Braverman'' herself. She is doing the bidding of others and act unaware that many hold the same vieuws against her and Sunak. She is married to Hwhite British man and thinks she is in a seperate class where people accept her. Same with these other coconut figures married to Hwhite men like Kemi Badenouch, Priti Patel and Candence Owens. Funny they all have the same ''talkingpoints'' in common.

Sadly true 🙁 This is why I am voting Green - I don't expect the Greens will win, but I am hoping the numbers will be high enough to send a clear signal to Starmer You don't need to win to have your vote make a difference 🙂

Funny as an ethnic minority I'm well aware they are much less raciat than Labour.

​@@markwelch3564Absolutely

@@sashasscribbles there isn't an established Labour candidate, so it's very likely to be a parachutee. Looks like it will be Green for me then!

"I'll informed racist vote" meaning people who don't want their country flooded with foreigners. Which the tories have actively done.

So you basically admitted your cognitive ability is deteriorating

Brexit made a lot of people start paying attention to politics and things are changing. Sounds about right to me.

You're too focused on the words conservative and conserve. They really have nothing to do with the Conservative Party.

Victim much. Man up take responsibility and get on with your life. Jeez

Same over here in Europe old folk might be more likely to be religious but that doesnt mean they are all conservative especially in Netherlands with most people being atheist or not practicing religion

Conservatism doesn't equal hopeless. But I would doubt people's sanity, if the current Conservative government(and the few previous) actually attracts them, or they believe what is happening is right.

yep me too but thank god for the young.

Neither are my parents though not all boomers are rich and more wealthy. I wished you were the majority (left leaning not poor). Though I also wished that voting was more about votes for a particular party rather than first past the post.

​@@GwainSagaFanChannelthe UK is also Europe

I'm an American conservative, and I begrudgingly give my vote to the republican party because they're the only ones with a chance to beat the democrat party. Both parties are fiscally irresponsible, and probably half of the politicians are getting paid off by some lobbyist, but the Democrats have taken positions that heavily conflict with my Christian faith.

I misread that as Sunak cost. Still applicable though 😅

@@mattyward1979”radical” left wing policies like a wealth tax and nationalisation are often polled as popular with all voters including conservative ones. People want radical change, it’s just no one is offering it The 2017 election saw a massive swing to Labour because of these policies and looking at the reasons people didn’t vote Labour in 2019 was mainly because of Brexit or corbyn, very few said because of labours actual policies. Parties need to offer some sort of fundamental change or people will start loosing faith in democracy (look at starmers approval ratings)

Reaganomics don't work, it's a sudden sugar rush at best followed by a long and grinding crash.

The West is declining. The post war Liberal consensus after Bretton Woods is effectively over. Left wing policies went out of the window when the industries that supported them disappeared. Labour had to become New Labour to survive. It's the unelected Deep State that call the shots, people in suits behind the scenes have the power and pull the strings. Sunak/Starmer are the Deep State's men, their puppets. If they stray from tge agenda they won't last long - q. v. Boris, Liz Truss. The markets won't like someone who is a threat.

Both the left and the right in europe works for the same boss being the eu and WEF . We need an anti system anti wef and far right party THAT IS ACTUALLY CONSERVATIVE

He wasn't even voted leader. Liz Truss won the actual leadership election because tory party members are mental

Technically they didn't vote him in

@@embalancer6146 actually the Conservatives did vote him as there new leader

I'm still hip and with it!

“A very open heart”? lmao. To bigotry do you mean?

"very open heart" does just sound like a feel-good euphamism for "easily persuaded into far right extremism". It's like one someone says "I'm just asking questions" when they are trying to deny climate change. The right wing creeps have tonnes of euphamisms because it makes it easier to spread hate, and it also makes them feel less guilty/shameful about being fascist morons.@@beepbopboop7727

@@beepbopboop7727bro all you needed was an attention span of 20 words to get the joke, but you stopped at 19. try reading comprehension.

The national living wage was a halfway house between upgrading the NMW in line with inflation and the Labour opposition at the time's Real Living Wage.

What were Labours promises ?

Even those, the right to buy was to keep the housing market flowing, not because they care about us, and raising national living wage was barely in line with inflation, but they can say it as a snippet to gain brownie points and pat themselves on the back.

Yes, how about you share that house with me, after all it's unfair that you can have a home and some people cannot

@@jakovvodanovic9165 Haha very funny. You've been taught socialists are against personal property. This is a lie, we are against private property, i.e the private appropriation of labour value in an enterprise. This is not the same thing as owning a home.

@@jakovvodanovic9165Here’s what you morons don’t understand: There’s two types of property. Personal property and REAL property. Interesting real property is called real property, because personal property is not actual property. Property in a historical definition meant buying land with the intent of to make money. That is a much better definition of property

Absolutely! Because of that young people are also far easier swayed by populism.

@@mr.netflix9149 Populism thrives on fear (of immigrants, of losing wealth, of cultural change, etc.). Older people are probably even more susceptible to populism.

And then the left wing radicals and/or populists come to power, they implement not even 25% of their agenda and dissatisfaction takes over. Yes I am absolutely desperate over the state of politics. It's as if there is no getting out of this cycle: conservative parties cause a mess with their status quo policies, then the public vote them back in "by default" once they experience disappointment with the other side.

"Pensioners on the other hand...." Have just been told that the promises of triple lock protection on their pensions won't be kept after all.

@@tonyb9735 er according to the Daily Fail, and that rag of a newspaper they call the Express has reported that the triple lock will continue. Even though it’s going to cost another £2bn a year on top. That’s another £2bn on top that working people have to fork out for whilst our standards of living go down and down and down. My Tory MP told me that the Tories offer me the chance to work in the economy. In other words “shut up millennial and just work harder”.

The Tories are far left

based as fuck (based means your opinions are correct)

@@damienheads7151 overton window moment

Likewise

@@damienheads7151You’re about as smart as a dead tory

farmyard duck: quack

Brexit didn't come from a right-wing ideology. It came from nationalism which is a completely different thing. There are plenty of examples of both left and right wing nationalist parties.

Also, the right wing movements in europe are being created from predominantly by young supporters in Europe. While brexit was overwhelmingly voted for by old people. So literally nothing in your statement is true

@@loowyatt6463 Still, nationalism is highly linked to right-wing politics, even if there are a few examples of left-wing nationalism. Same with fiscal and social conservatism, patriotism, racism, and fascism, they are much more common ideologies or beliefs held by right-wingers than the left-wingers.

The far right got most of that demographic's votes in Eastern Europe and Italy at least

Lots up north. We voted leave essentially because the torys told us to vote remain.

In the old days, I'd have said (I'm 65) that's ageist (and you probably are). But, actually, there's a lot of sense in that: we should be voting for governments who are working for our communal future, employment, education, infrastructure etc (I'll leave health and pensions out the equation for now). And, really, should we be giving old people (ie me) votes to determine what happens to young people? Look how old people f*cked us on Brexit! My girlfriend's mother - aged 90 - told her daughter she'd voted leave. Incandescent daughter said: why on earth would you do that? Mum says: to stop them coming over and taking our jobs. Girlfriend: mum *_you don't have a job and haven't since your mid-20s!!!_*

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Nice dream, but your parents would be very unhappy. So stop dreaming.