Why GARAGE Solar Panels could be the SOLUTION to your energy problems

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Жыл бұрын

Have you been told you can't have solar installed on your roof? Well today's video could be the perfect solution to your solar problems! Join the Artisan team as they demonstrate a clever alternative to installing solar on an awkward shaped house roof.
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@artisanelectrics 4 ай бұрын

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@Nexinator Жыл бұрын

Little tip about cable tie bags, open them from the MIDDLE of the length of the pack, that way, you can pluck out what you need and they all don't fall out everywhere.

@ICZPISparkyguy Жыл бұрын

Every apprentice should have this instilled in them my pet hate is some dafty opening them from one end 😂😂

@davidcroft659 Жыл бұрын

Is it me, or did you not tell us what it costs? "Your Garage Could Be Earning You Money!" Maybe so, but without a cost and an income, how do I know (a) what the payback period is & therefore (b) whether it's worth the investment?

@marymadigan9707 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoying the guys in the back round they really have a sense of humour great job guys so neat and tidy as always 👏😎🇮🇪

@aryanelectrical Жыл бұрын

Really rate John! Down to earth and a box of knowledge

@raihanagyagenda6742 Жыл бұрын

Love you're constant put dont wach anymore because of the music over the talking

@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын

😢🎻

@colingreer853 Жыл бұрын

That must have cost a fortune to install and would take a very long time to pay for itself.

@andriikolesnyk279 Жыл бұрын

It will never pay off.

@jonleekay338 Жыл бұрын

Of course it will. The current cost of energy plus the new tariffs benefitting people who sell to the grid have changed the whole solar and battery industry

@joanofarc708 Жыл бұрын

Rough guess I'd say about 8 to 10 grand

@patriciamenhennett2035 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful job guys

@user-ni9gr1qn5t Жыл бұрын

Nice job put together well , well done boy's

@ForTheBirbs Жыл бұрын

What a great video, content and production. How many takes with Luke laughing in background. Lol. Cheeky bugger

@marcusstonham Жыл бұрын

Im confused as to why you would remove the MCB for the house and replace it for the switch fuse. If the fuse in the new switch fuse blows the neutral is still connected. Just add a main switch in the existing enclosure. The swa was terminated as it should be but now single insulated cables on show and looks awfull. Not sure how thats been improved to be fair

@hexdator2934 Жыл бұрын

Why do you switch the main neutral in the U.K? Is it in case an earth fault current travels back down the neutral if the main supply authority neutral is dropped?

@Sunneful Жыл бұрын

Double pole protection?

@jackkane6594 Жыл бұрын

8:24 Luke having a right good chuckle

@IanFarquharson2 Жыл бұрын

Good job. The tree won’t shade it much, and looked to be due south and a good way off too. Reuben not liking the height work then?

@james-reid Жыл бұрын

I have been contemplating doing this with my garage. One thing that I'd like clarification on... The garage gets pretty cold in winter and very hot in winter (it's got a metal roof with no insulation) - If I'm to put batteries in it (I like the idea of having them in the garage - does not use up valuable space in the house) do I need to build something akin to an ensuite room which is well insulated and the put the batteries inside the room? Thanks!

@NickP1707 Жыл бұрын

Technical cardboard - CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) 😂

@waterloowar Жыл бұрын

I am having east and west facing panel now. how many percentage of output is less than south facing panels if the number of panels are the same?

@gopakumarsudhir4766 Жыл бұрын

I have a very similar set up in my garage 18 panels and hybrid inverter and a 14.4 kWh Pylontech battery. want to increase the battery capacity to store for maximum self use in summer and load shifting in the winter. Is it feasible to add a 14.4KWh Pylontech battery to the existing set up. I am based in North London.

@DavidWlodarski Жыл бұрын

Do you or the roofers kill and clean the moss off the roof tiles before installing the racking and pv panels?

@deang5622 Жыл бұрын

6 panels, get 1 free. I bloody hope so if I'm paying £35,000 for it!

@caparn100 Жыл бұрын

Where did the £35k come from?

@deang5622 Жыл бұрын

@@caparn100 If you watch his other videos, the price he quotes is often £30k or over for jobs

@caparn100 Жыл бұрын

@@deang5622 Really?! I got a quote last year from a local supplier for an additional 20 X JA Solar 370W Mono MBB panels full fitted with a Solis 8.0kW inverter for £7300.

@gamingit1 Жыл бұрын

ETI is best manufacturer for fuses

@linossinkala7840 Жыл бұрын

Thax boss

@waqasahmed939 Жыл бұрын

See, what I'd want to do first is actually to demolish my garage The people before me converted their garage into a utility room. I'm fairly certain they did it without planning permission too because it doesn't look particularly suited for kitchen items Anyway, the idea is to demolish it, build a two storey thing instead, and THEN get more solar panels I've already got planning permission to add 8 more panels on my flat roof anyway. The plan is to reinforce my flat roof first. I think I should however be fine for a while :)

@piotrpiersa5459 Жыл бұрын

You use Polish fuses ETI POLAM

@MG_Steve Жыл бұрын

Shame it didn't go into the commissioning or detail over what battery was used. Totally agree about Garage use though, I got the majority of my panels on the garage roof and some more on the house. Garage was south facing too, so bonus.

@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын

Libbi battery will be going in as soon as myenergi supply them. As for commissioning, a step by step video detailing this is going out for channel members very soon

@elslopez Жыл бұрын

Why not a solar edge DC coupled battery that works directly with the solar edge inverter?

@MG_Steve Жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Ah fair enough. So you have extra videos for members, you probably need to publicise this a bit more, I didn't know! - Keep up the good work.

@MG_Steve Жыл бұрын

@@elslopez tbh, they're really expensive for what they are. I got a 16kWhr LG Resu Prime for my SolarEdge system, that was around £8.5k, the SE 10K battery is around £7k. Besides, if you were to do that I'd get the new SE Home Hub inverter. The LG doesn't work with the Home Hub (despite it working with the Home Hubs in other markets), so hence I had to have a Home Wave, shame I didn't find that key bit of info out until earlier this year - been waiting best part of 6 months with panels on the house waiting for the Home Hub inverter as I was told it would be compatible! Anyway, long winded answer, imo I'd get the LG battery, unless you really want the Home Hub inverter, if so, you're stuck with SE's own battery. SE's inverter product numbering & naming is a joke though, even their own staff are confused by it! I don't know anything about the Libby though, that wasn't an option when I was spec'ing my system up this time last year.

@waqasahmed939 Жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics I'm waiting for GivEnergy to bring out their diverter and their EV charger personally I don't have an EV just yet either

@OraEtLabora0 Жыл бұрын

8:25 TRICKSTERS! 🤣

@wajopek2679 Жыл бұрын

As usual, always a nice professional electrical installation. I would have told the customer to get the tree top cut, jet washed the roof whilst scaffold is there and gone for a simple 2MPPT install.

@sdgelectronics Жыл бұрын

You'd get slightly higher yield from a 2MPPT install, since you lose around 2-5% in the optimiser as no DC-DC converter is 100% efficient.

@andrewm3961 Жыл бұрын

Largely useless to clean the roof when 95% of it will be covered.

@larsi4139 Жыл бұрын

do you guys not use sepereate neutural ? in norway thats standard

@seanoconnor8843 9 ай бұрын

Wow! Three lads! Scaffolding! I put 10 panels on my two story roof, on my own, on a ladder. You're having a laugh

@Max-gs8zv Жыл бұрын

For an installation like this where the power of the panels exceeds the power of the inverter, can you tell me what you enter on the MCS certificate for Total Installed Capacity and Declared Net Capacity?

@endisforever22 Жыл бұрын

i dont think the amount of panels matter its the inverter size that matters in this case its 5kwh, you can have mor panels that inverter size thats pretty normal on most installations to maximise generation on duller days

@Max-gs8zv Жыл бұрын

Hoping for an answer from Jordan of what he actually fills in on the MCS? He's MCS certified so should be an easy answer for him. Jordan?

@davidunwin7868 Жыл бұрын

My solar system is on my garage roof. Had to upgrade the supply from the main board to the garage sub-board. Once I sort out my house roof, a second solar system will go on it.

@euroovca25 Жыл бұрын

whats with the UK and feeding a house with a single phase only? the hell ?

@jackreid7 Жыл бұрын

Does anybody ever use the 5.8.5 MCS 400mm margin rule?

@srowlands248 Жыл бұрын

Ok so what was the cost??

@kslingsby Жыл бұрын

Nice video, but too much distracting music!

@caparn100 Жыл бұрын

As the solar panels are installed on two separate flat roofs facing different directions, it would have been possible to divide the panels into two halves for input. By utilizing an inverter with two inputs, there would have been no necessity for an optimizer.

@sdgelectronics Жыл бұрын

Yes, you'd normally use an inverter with 2x MPPT controllers. No need at all for optimisers which add unreliability.

@patriciamenhennett2035 Жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics how do optimizers add unreliability?

@sdgelectronics Жыл бұрын

@@patriciamenhennett2035 they will fail way before a PV panel. You also add four additional MC4 connectors for every one panel.

@TheDankelsall Жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics agree in general, I use strings without optimisers, but there are not 4 additional connectors, 2 are added, 4 in total.

@sdgelectronics Жыл бұрын

@@TheDankelsall there are an additional 4 physical connectors (mating halves), making two extra connections.

@persona250 Жыл бұрын

4:46 There is no requirement to isolate the neutral conductor in a TN earthing system.

@deang5622 Жыл бұрын

Correct. So long as the neutral is reliably at earth potential, which means a good connection to earth. Doesn't do any harm to put in a double pole isolator.

@persona250 Жыл бұрын

@@deang5622 on single phase no harm at all . On 3 phase it can be a problem.

@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын

@@deang5622 Yeah its still good practise

@martmac1979 Жыл бұрын

why 16mm2 to the garage? how big is the solar install?

@freelifeproductions Жыл бұрын

when your employees are on a time crunch.. and the boss want to make a youtube video . probebly took 6 takes to say Solar Inverter

@NowWeComeAlive Жыл бұрын

What tool do you use to calculate the shading?

@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын

SolarEdge Design tool

@prawnk1ng Жыл бұрын

9:18 didn’t even answer the question It was just a plug for the sponsor. 😒

@Solanum.95 Жыл бұрын

I'm the kind of person who opens cable ties like that. It´s the right way until you turn it upside down 🤣

@neilrwilliams218 Жыл бұрын

Was any bird protection installed? Doesn't look like there was space for the solar skirt you normally use.

@elslopez Жыл бұрын

I noticed that, my guess is that you would loose a panel or so each side for the additional clearance needed… I guess also the roof is low enough birds nests could easily be raked out if needed!

@caparn100 Жыл бұрын

I'm 90% sure they will have pigeons nesting under the panels within a couple of years.

@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын

@@caparn100 Customer installed their own bird mesh afterwards

@BritishAnts Жыл бұрын

2.10 is Boris Johnsons son! ❤lol 😂

@Edsbar Жыл бұрын

How is an East/West roof perfect for solar? I have a house roof that is East/West and have believed it isn't suited for solar as I'd need to have twice the panels to catch what is available.

@jamiei543 Жыл бұрын

got an EAST and West system generate plenty from it last month it generated 498kWh and this month so far has generated 405kWh so far this month im about 89% self sufficient

@gopakumarsudhir4766 Жыл бұрын

I have an east west garage roof set up with 18 450KW panels and it generated 850 KW in May. I am looking forward to June and I guess it would be a MegaWatt month. This output is inspite of some shading on the east facing early in the day and without optimisers.

@marcobrian1619 Жыл бұрын

That's interesting....you say the meter is owned by the energy company. I confronted my supplier about mine afew years ago about this...... As it's a meter for sale it should be calibrated yearly..... Thay told me it's my meter....... So im still arguments about who owns the meter and who calibrate it????? As I said before, thay said it was mine.....so I said I'm charging you for using my meter.... We are still in courts.

@mattys5686 Жыл бұрын

🤔What do you use for your cable design calculations (AC)?

@patriciamenhennett2035 Жыл бұрын

Go online

@mattys5686 Жыл бұрын

@@patriciamenhennett2035 ? I’m asking due to the information in the video would suggest no cable calculations have been done! Basic stuff and not sure who’s signing the design part of the EIC cert.

@patriciamenhennett2035 Жыл бұрын

@@mattys5686 why would you suspect that. Cable current carrying calculations are basic to all installations. Are you an electrician?

@mattys5686 Жыл бұрын

@@patriciamenhennett2035 indeed I am. So if the calculations would have been carried out you would see a buried/in duct 16mm 3c swa @70deg is to small for a 80a fuse and then apply 1% volt drop for solar. This why I asked what software they/you used as sometimes incorrect settings give out the wrong data.

@patriciamenhennett2035 Жыл бұрын

I agree. It seems like they use 16mm 3c awc for all installations no matter how long the run is and whether it's clipped, inside/outside buried etc. It would be interesting to know the size of the cable connected from the street to the house

@FistralG Жыл бұрын

On the last solar install video there was a strict sequence in which the panels were attached. This one seemed more random, why?

@matthewmcmullan9669 Жыл бұрын

The last one was designed for sitting flush, so was designed to fit in a very particular way

@ELECTRICLIFE4U Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

@mrishak602 8 ай бұрын

Think you supposed to not use plastic boxes you bought in the previous videos, supposed to be using metal boxes

@prawnk1ng Жыл бұрын

Rich people problems.

@Fuxy22 10 ай бұрын

That roof need a pressure wash first...

@wazza33racer Жыл бұрын

Roof top solar is a big thing in Australia........most systems are grid tied, no storage. Feed in tariffs started out at AUD 20c/kw/hr and then dropped a few years ago to 5c/kw/hr. Australia is mostly a sunny country, but most of the population (80%) live near the coast line, and that has not so sunny weather. 2 years ago, due to the glut of solar energy at the middle of the day, the national market operator changed the rules..........electricity networks are NO longer obliged to pay anyone feed in tariffs, at their discretion. So if your some clever dick, who has put 40 kw of panels on their sprawling home and shed........you get nothing. Storage is the only answer for lots of people to get some benefit from their solar.........and Lithium batteries were tested by our national testing center and the results are not good......on DAILY charge cycling, on typical daily needs, the Lithium batteries deteriorated in capacity 15 to 30% in the first 4 years, and were pretty much useless by 10. Tesla power wall was one of the worst performers.........BYD and LG did better..........BUT both LG and BYD are known for battery FIRES. Do not use cheap chinese PV inverters, use a quality brand like SMA,Fronius or for solar charge controllers, Victron.

@neilbissett1240 Жыл бұрын

And the cost was 😂😂

@samstainer2288 Жыл бұрын

I’m planning on putting solar on my garage and my house and a battery system probably in another building. My main supply comes into a big distribution board outside pedestal. Then this board goes to my warehouse, garage outbuildings and house. I have 3 phase power. Garage has its own distribution board and the house has 2 distribution boards.

@slef2003 Жыл бұрын

WHy do you insist on the crap muzak? there is nothing wrong with silence between the speech!

@sajulldin5147 Жыл бұрын

Getting bored of these over the top high cost videos

@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512 9 ай бұрын

Plastic cable ties to secure the cable wiring on the roof! No no no. They degrade and snap after a few years, more so outside! Also I'm annoyed and disappointed by the addition of a sneaky advert performed by yourself and inserted in this video half way through. It was dressed up/disguised as the break-down quote/costing for this job but that was just a cynical ruse and you disclosed no such details. Instead you went into a shameless sales patter, trying to flog unnecessary software to the susceptible, vulnerable and gormless. If you cannot work out a quote on paper and without the aid of 5 computers (WTF!) I would suggest that you are unsuitable for this business in the first place. I'd imagine you are actually fully capable of easily supplying a quote without the aid of any computers...... Soul for sale? Not me! I have now unsubscribed to this channel.