Why General Grievous was an Underrated Tactical GENIUS

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The dude knew how to organise armies, what can I say?
Why General Grievous was an Underrated Tactical GENIUS
General Grievouses Deserved Ascent to CIS Supreme Commander
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@webzter2661
@webzter2661 4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is the only place where you can find a four-armed cyborg warrior with Tuberculosis.
@jamesgorman5692
@jamesgorman5692 4 жыл бұрын
I think it must be cannon but I'm not sure that Windu force crushed him.
@webzter2661
@webzter2661 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgorman5692 It _was_ canon.
@lejenddairy
@lejenddairy 4 жыл бұрын
2003 clone wars was the best when it came to making characters like Grievous, Mace and Yoda look like one man armies.
@Skippercarlos5
@Skippercarlos5 4 жыл бұрын
Lejend Dairy - I love my 3D clone wars, but I gotta agree with this. Grievous in the clone wars is a disgrace compared to the 2003 show. Wish they would have shown him beat more Jedi.
@webzter2661
@webzter2661 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I really like the 3D Grievous over the 2003 one. Not sure what does it, because I _want_ to like the 2003 version, but something about the 2008 and live action one...
@senagashen2101
@senagashen2101 4 жыл бұрын
This is General Grievous. During the Battle of Coruscant, we can see him covering his mouth when he coughs. Even though he is a cyborg, surrounded by other robots. Be more like Grievous
@shadowwriter329
@shadowwriter329 4 жыл бұрын
Senaga Shen LMAO! I’m dying! This is perfect!
@n8dawgxx828
@n8dawgxx828 4 жыл бұрын
“Hello there”
@senagashen2101
@senagashen2101 4 жыл бұрын
“General Kenobi!” “You are a bold one. Kill him”
@n8dawgxx828
@n8dawgxx828 4 жыл бұрын
(Destroys Magnagaurds)
@leonardorivelorivelo9253
@leonardorivelorivelo9253 4 жыл бұрын
@@senagashen2101 *all the droids Just fucking Shoot Obi Wan till death* D I R E C T E D B Y G E O R G E L U C A S
@darkblood626
@darkblood626 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad for him he couldn't plan his way through plot armor.
@Haggysack2k8
@Haggysack2k8 4 жыл бұрын
Well he had no plot armor, but the plot came "through" his armor. ...Or atleast that's what Obi-Wan would say to that.
@darkblood626
@darkblood626 4 жыл бұрын
@@Haggysack2k8 I mean the Jedi had plot armor. He was defeated by padawans for gods sake.
@theimperialofficer604
@theimperialofficer604 4 жыл бұрын
The plot armor was strong with TCW.
@idiom2805
@idiom2805 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad George didn't want his poster-boy, Vader, being replaced.
@Goldenkitten1
@Goldenkitten1 2 жыл бұрын
He was defeated numerous times in increasingly embarrassing ways and then in the end was killed via a tactic that had no right to work, and if it did then someone else should have done it three-years earlier. We only got to see him actually be who he actually was outside the books in the 2d Clone Wars animation for like 10 minutes and that's just sad.
@SamuraiGhostGirl
@SamuraiGhostGirl 4 жыл бұрын
General Grievous: horrifying cybernetic monster. Clones in Clones Wars: Lets jump on him and punch him in the face!
@GodOfPlague
@GodOfPlague 4 жыл бұрын
That mask might break your hand..or.he could cough on. Your hands. The mans a.walking bio weapon
@Skippercarlos5
@Skippercarlos5 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, they tried.
@commanderwilliam3693
@commanderwilliam3693 4 жыл бұрын
I mean they tried *They were following orders*
@SamuraiGhostGirl
@SamuraiGhostGirl 4 жыл бұрын
Cachillian I don’t think the orders were to jump on his back because it doesn’t seem like the most effective way to caught grievous. Though it was funny.
@thomaskelton8936
@thomaskelton8936 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my boys
@basedcrusader8205
@basedcrusader8205 4 жыл бұрын
The CHAD Legends vs the virgin Canon.
@jamesdavis9036
@jamesdavis9036 4 жыл бұрын
Virgin DISNEY canon.
@DarkApostleNoek
@DarkApostleNoek 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdavis9036 fair on Disney, TCW already made Grevious a joke before they bought the rights.
@jamesdavis9036
@jamesdavis9036 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarkApostleNoek Touche
@korolevpiano7794
@korolevpiano7794 4 жыл бұрын
Noek A non force sensitive alien becomes a ruthless leader of a droid army, defeats 13 Jedi in combat, become indirectly the result of many more jedi deaths, gains many victories over the clone wars, all while being kaleesh warrior. And that’s not impressive enough for you? Are you forgetting Grievous is the apprentice of Dooku, and a pawn in the clone wars, not God himself?
@loganwalker9475
@loganwalker9475 4 жыл бұрын
@@korolevpiano7794 i know people are saying he is more powerfull than vader Like bruh vader killed lik 100 jedi lol
@britishrex5515
@britishrex5515 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the main problem grievous had was that he was commanding battle droids with the collective iq of a small child
@GodOfPlague
@GodOfPlague 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Roger
@evanjohnson1299
@evanjohnson1299 4 жыл бұрын
he was fighting a war he was meant to lose, but still almost won
@arbiter690
@arbiter690 4 жыл бұрын
The CIS did have non-droid infantry but sadly only for officers, shock troops and ship crews. If they balanced it out and truly unified the whole military might of their worlds in tangent with the droids then he could make an effective sword and shield tactic with such units. Droids should be the sword and the organics the shield, but also he must alter and switch between the two to keep the Republic off balance then it would be an interesting war following cause when you have different races with their own unique cultures, technology, language and strategy but molded and made as one with each gap covering one another with good coordination then it could work. Whether they could win the war this way I wouldn't say given that Dooku and Sidious ran the the show, but if they weren't there that is another story cause Grievous knows the weaknesses of his droids and while he will use them he will be open to command living breathing warriors and soldiers under his command.
@datguy8006
@datguy8006 4 жыл бұрын
Evan Johnson I don’t reckon almost winning should be under his belt as an accomplishment even though the war was guaranteed to be lost when you consider everything it would be very hard for the cis not to win their advantages were to Great
@mattmorehouse9685
@mattmorehouse9685 4 жыл бұрын
@@datguy8006 I think a large part of it is general space opera tropes clashing with reality. The former generally has robot armies not be super effective and act like organic ones because that would undermine the drama. It's really hard to get attached to individual pieces of equipment when they're the exact same as the next 2000 that are being pumped off the line. It's also really hard to take into account all the massive changes that a fully robotic army would result it: for starters, morale would go out the window for frontline troops. That takes out a ton of story potential, for stuff on the stress soldiers undergo or the morality of war. Robots wont question orders they think are immoral, they dont suffer psychological trauma like organics and they dont mutiny.
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 4 жыл бұрын
That picture of Grevious as George Washington was pure perfection...
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
7:32 I want that as a poster or backdrop. Who made it?
@djcoopes7569
@djcoopes7569 4 жыл бұрын
@@akumaking1 probably titled something similar to 'crossing the Delaware's which is the name of the original painting. Maybe crossing the geonosis?
@emperorpalpatine4911
@emperorpalpatine4911 3 жыл бұрын
Dude yes, I typically listen to the videos and I just so happened to look up when it was on screen. To think I could’ve missed it
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 3 жыл бұрын
*This Is Gold*
@sinwithagrin4243
@sinwithagrin4243 2 жыл бұрын
Made my day
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 4 жыл бұрын
Grevious is so underrated... He's pretty much considered a Demi-god amongst his people for his exploits as a warrior.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
And he was worshiped as a god after his death.
@elijahbutcher9522
@elijahbutcher9522 3 жыл бұрын
@@akumaking1 woah really?
@freakyhorrorghoul
@freakyhorrorghoul 3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahbutcher9522 yeah, they literally have a statue of him on kalee
@elijahbutcher9522
@elijahbutcher9522 3 жыл бұрын
@@freakyhorrorghoul damn, do you know what kind of god Grievous is worshiped as? Like god of vengeance, mourning and such?
@gamer_heaven5549
@gamer_heaven5549 3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahbutcher9522 In legends(KOTOR, SWTOR), it is said that the greatest warriors among the Kaleesh become gods in death, and most of their species spent their lifetime seeking worthy foes and adventures to that end, so he was a sort of warrior god acording to their traditions, can't say if this still hold true in the new canon tho
@GeneralGrievous-1138
@GeneralGrievous-1138 4 жыл бұрын
"General Grievous, however... Grievous was a monster. The Separatist Supreme Commander is an abomination of nature, a fusion of flesh and droid - and his droid parts had more compassion than what remains of his alien flesh. This half-living creature is the murderer of billions. He is the evil genius of the Confederacy, the architect of their victories. The author of their atrocities." -From Matthew Stover's ROTS novel
@bobsmith9413
@bobsmith9413 4 жыл бұрын
FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE!
@j_x5058
@j_x5058 4 жыл бұрын
General Grievous1138 the only thing that matters is how many victories he can win
@j_x5058
@j_x5058 4 жыл бұрын
Casualties are only numbers on piece of paper
@tonkotsu5247
@tonkotsu5247 4 жыл бұрын
His lightsaber will be a fine addition to my collection
@mattmorehouse9685
@mattmorehouse9685 4 жыл бұрын
@@j_x5058 Especially when they're robots.
@videocrowsnest5251
@videocrowsnest5251 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Grievous sitting in his office - Using his 4 hands to multi-task to fill in spreadsheets, paperwork, forming fleets, battle groups, army rosters etc? With a big mug of cyborg coffee on his desk, he puts one pencil down, uses one hand to move it to his face mask - try to sip it, then throw it away as he remembers he doesn't drink coffee anymore - and continues working? Just doing all the organizational paperwork to get things sorted. Somehow it is an amusing thought to think of - General Grievous doing paperwork. Side note: Imagine how dangerously lethal of a job it is to be General Grievouses personal secretary?
@ummart._.1335
@ummart._.1335 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes I can imagine it.
@karoljones7455
@karoljones7455 4 жыл бұрын
If you want a visual of this go check out the video "Grievous 66" very funny
@DoctorProph3t
@DoctorProph3t 4 жыл бұрын
I can see that personal secretary taking lots of hot mugs of java juice to the face. By this point Grievous remembers he doesn’t have a mouth, he just needs to sling scalding, fragile containers at droids heads while tryna work out speed-to-supply ratios and shell tonnage per square meter.
@localtrickster4516
@localtrickster4516 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I was his personal secretary 😳
@anotherpapasheev7546
@anotherpapasheev7546 3 жыл бұрын
Grievous is the computer Dwight beat in that episode
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 4 жыл бұрын
“Grievous was a fanatical psychopath. Regarding his tactics, they were effective, but it is also much easier to take tactical shots when any massive losses are only a production bill rather than a military funeral. I’m still grateful that I never fought against him on the battlefield.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Former Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
Got any links to your fanfic? They sound more interesting that the current Disney swill (excluding the Mandalorian show)
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 4 жыл бұрын
Josh I’m writing a crossover fantasy story and the prologue is finished. It is 100% in context to the battles of Cato Nemoidia. It describes a hasty base defense. First draft. I’ll find it when I get on my laptop today and share it with everyone.
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 4 жыл бұрын
Josh also I’m flattered
@Al-cm8ny
@Al-cm8ny 3 жыл бұрын
@@chengzhou8711 waiting on it
@kurgerbing9491
@kurgerbing9491 3 жыл бұрын
@@Al-cm8ny same send it please I need to see
@vladtheimpaler9577
@vladtheimpaler9577 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they would make a small movie with Grievouses backstory from being a Khaleesh warlord to being deceived and turned into a cyborg jedi killer for the Sith. It would be amazing.
@jamesdavis9036
@jamesdavis9036 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Lucasfilm? I've got someone you need to talk to...
@vladtheimpaler9577
@vladtheimpaler9577 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdavis9036 .....and they're name is fanbase.
@jamesdavis9036
@jamesdavis9036 4 жыл бұрын
@@vladtheimpaler9577 That too. But seriously, dude, they really should make that a movie!
@dektarey4024
@dektarey4024 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Vlad the fucking Impaler know more about an Interesting story than Disney? Whats up with that?
@generalgrievous5730
@generalgrievous5730 2 жыл бұрын
Ok imma turn into god when I get a spin-off guys don’t worry
@baraka1906
@baraka1906 4 жыл бұрын
He said "Hello there" first
@haven-ps9xc
@haven-ps9xc 4 жыл бұрын
General Grievous is my favorite Star Wars character I was sad when the made him a coward in the clone wars unlike how he was in the 2003 version
@silentecho92able
@silentecho92able 4 жыл бұрын
@NuclearHobo42 Same here we went from a Badass Cyborg that could let his huge army kill 6 Jedi's, but instead chose too Solo all of them and Wreck'em almost killing them all. An single handedly chase and capture Palpatine all around Coruscant while fighting Clone an Jedi bodyguards with little help from his Droids. To one that goes like "Well im done for today see next week folks" some 50% percent off the time. The only time's he ever fights is he know's either his opponents are weak, or has a huge advantage against them or just arrogance. Yet were talking about the Version that got beat by Gungans, and resort to getting help almost all the time.
@silentecho92able
@silentecho92able 4 жыл бұрын
@NuclearHobo42 I remember i felt the same when i was a kid an saw the cartoon he was one of the most badass characters ever, me and my friends were talking about him alot. An yes we felt the same way after the movie, we were like thats it? that he was treated more of a joke too be honest.
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 8 ай бұрын
​@@silentecho92able actually he never was even nerfed, always the same character in both the 2003 and 2008 TCW TV shows, just the 2003 shows how much of a beast he really was, while the 2008 shows when he isn't having a good time. Mostly it's the clones and jedi that call him a coward when to him it's a "strategic retreat" because he knows a losing battle when he sees one.
@CloudBlitzer
@CloudBlitzer 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Dooku's experiment worked and Grievous was Force sensitive
@mesmerwolf0
@mesmerwolf0 4 жыл бұрын
I am, and I'm scared... He would've curb stomped the Republic.
@herambhasabnis6949
@herambhasabnis6949 2 жыл бұрын
No Jedi , not even Kenobi and Vader would've been a match .
@VoiceOfTheEmperor
@VoiceOfTheEmperor 3 жыл бұрын
General Grievous was basically a master of "Working with what you have."
@tenthshadowstep
@tenthshadowstep 4 жыл бұрын
One of the only problems withe Clone wars series is grevious primarily goes up against people that have to be in Ep 3. They should have let him cut loose against peoplewho didn't have that plot armor, thats why he tears shit up on dathomir
@PurposefullyIneloquent
@PurposefullyIneloquent 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good point! I hadn't thought about it that way. Of course he can't kill Anakin, Obi-Wan, Kit Fisto, etc. They should have had him rip up a few more knights throughout the show to demonstrate his threat level. But then they had the throw the padawan arc at us.. His worst moment in the show -_-
@tenthshadowstep
@tenthshadowstep 4 жыл бұрын
@@PurposefullyIneloquent Exactly, his best moments in legends are him slaughtering people who aren't in ep 3 or severely injuring people who are (Aayla secura) and like you said he just needs to cut loose against some new guys who we've grown decently attached too
@grivous9515
@grivous9515 4 жыл бұрын
But he lost like a little piece of shit in pure lightsaber battle against ventress. Stop lying to yourself, even on dathomir in TCW he was ridiculous at some points. What did they do to you Grievous...
@tenthshadowstep
@tenthshadowstep 4 жыл бұрын
@@grivous9515 Ya but ventress is pretty top tier
@grivous9515
@grivous9515 4 жыл бұрын
@@tenthshadowstep so Grievous is not at all.
@redtsar
@redtsar 4 жыл бұрын
I always knew General Grevious was more than what the Clone Wars showed since we mostly saw the victories of the Republic most of the time, but I didn't know the extent of it. Really enjoyed learning more about him
@hansgerman3437
@hansgerman3437 4 жыл бұрын
The dude certainly could use his own spinoff movie. Depicting his heroics during the War against the Huk, the loss of his mate. The neglect and outright betrayal of the republic and his eventual cyborg beginnings. A true War Adventure movie. Maybe even show a more compassionate side of him, that is completely torn down by the end of the movie.
@Fi_Sci_
@Fi_Sci_ 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats 2D Grievous, a brutal fighter who used the unorthodox along with developing new tactics to counter opponents, nothing like 2008 grievous who does have his moments of badassery but is often portrayed as a coward...although I guess that does fall in with what Dooku had told him to do, so what do I know 😂
@siddaslothman2273
@siddaslothman2273 4 жыл бұрын
In a unfinished scene of the 2008 Clone Wars, Grievous decapitates a Utapauan for being slightly annoying, and nearly kills Obi-Wan in a unanimous 1v1. But the episode was left unfinished when Disney bagged Star Wars.
@Fi_Sci_
@Fi_Sci_ 4 жыл бұрын
SidDaSlothMan that was a pretty great moment, When grievous saw right through the little buggers lies. I did state that 2008 grievous did have his moments of badassery, him Decapitating the utuapaun bug guy was one of em 😂
@oopsalleyes
@oopsalleyes 4 жыл бұрын
...any chance we get that scene in all it’s glory in Clone Wars season 7?
@Fi_Sci_
@Fi_Sci_ 4 жыл бұрын
F S It’s possible, considering most of the season will likely consist of unfinished episodes being completed. And the rest devoted to characters like Ahsoka, and Battles such as the siege of Mandolore.
@priscyllathewitch298
@priscyllathewitch298 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really know if you can call him cowardly when he genuinely doesn't display fear when he retreats. He just knows when to make a tactical retreat. Let's not forget the entire reason he died was because he had the chance to run like a coward, but didn't.
@UntoldHistoryAnimations
@UntoldHistoryAnimations 4 жыл бұрын
Legends/novel authors and director of 2003 cartoon : "Grievous is one of the most dangerous and nefarious characters of star wars, he is ruthless and cunning and has killed billions ! Grievous is to be feared!" George Lucas : "Lol I wanted to make him like a Cereal-box mascot..."
@loulegare2861
@loulegare2861 4 жыл бұрын
My opinion of Grievous is still shaped by the 2003 Clone Wars cartoon.
@neon6944
@neon6944 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Grievous episode was the one where he massacred the Nightsisters because it was him at his most brutal.
@grivous9515
@grivous9515 4 жыл бұрын
And still he was almost killed by Ventress.
@neon6944
@neon6944 4 жыл бұрын
Rasengan VXW okay true
@liamgauthier8332
@liamgauthier8332 4 жыл бұрын
In the 2003 series he was depicted as flawless with his strategy
@mikecampbell7950
@mikecampbell7950 4 жыл бұрын
Grievous: *lands on the battlefield* Clones: Why do I here boss music?
@jgonzalez5884
@jgonzalez5884 4 жыл бұрын
On a serious note I wonder why the republic never tried assassinating him, he doesn't have the force so if a clone with a heavy sniper rifle lined up a shot and grievous didn't see it coming he could've been removed early on
@khgaming7746
@khgaming7746 4 жыл бұрын
@@jgonzalez5884If his armor can tank volleys from starfighter cannons and an explosion that obliterated an entire underground city from right in the center then I doubt a HSR will do much
@bouncin2207
@bouncin2207 4 жыл бұрын
@@jgonzalez5884 They must have since Grievous was the number one target to the Republic, even more important than Dooku himself. That's why Grievous is so notoriously paranoid, he knows he is in danger 24/7 due to his value.
@savary5050
@savary5050 2 жыл бұрын
@Epik shot in the exposed organs my guy
@enderkill7777
@enderkill7777 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this, I only thought about that one time he crushed a clones face.
@TurokRevolution
@TurokRevolution 4 жыл бұрын
"You'll regret that!"
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 4 жыл бұрын
He is the leader of the most powerful droid army the galaxy has ever seen
@SkiddyGaming
@SkiddyGaming 4 жыл бұрын
General Grievous was the Supreme Commander of the Confederacy of Independent Systems. It's entirely military operated, both in battle and in logistics, in accordance with his strategies, doctrines, and directions. He can be compared, given his rank and role, with legendary real world Supreme Commanders like Georgy Zhukov and Dwight D. Eisenhower. I have quite a bit of confidence that Grievous could've won the war for the CIS if not for the fact that Palpatine constantly sabotaged or ordered a halt to Grievous' plans, technical developments, and advances (take for example the battle of Kamino... if not for the, almost certainly Palpatine sabotage, leaking of part of Grievous' call to the Republic he would've totally crippled the GAR morale in foul swoop). Grievous did a very good job with what he had available to him, especially considering he routinely had to go up against space wizards with magic powers (who almost always were the sole factor that ruined what would've otherwise been his victories). Grievous would be a nightmare to face as a commander in a conventional war (where there aren't any force users involved to save his opponents like a constant foil).
@bouncin2207
@bouncin2207 4 жыл бұрын
Sure but the important part of Grievous was that even the jedi couldn't stop him, which terrified the entire galaxy. But TCW show intentionally contradicts this. Matthew Wood (Grievous' vocie actor) said in a featurette of one of the episodes that Grievous is good but when he comes across a Jedi he is "backed up against the wall" because of "stupid droids". Which then contradicts Grievous' reputation as a jedi killer and the threat of droids as a whole to the galaxy, because where did the chaos come from then?
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
Grievous' past as the supreme warlord and leader of various Kaleesh tribes would translate well into organizing the disjointed Separatist forces. Arguably Grievous was the bigger linchpin of the CIS than Dooku.
@Arob4343
@Arob4343 4 жыл бұрын
How appropriate that the guy who has 4 arms that work together and can merge into 2 arms, is the one to bring together the multiple armies of the CIS.
@TenderRat9000
@TenderRat9000 4 жыл бұрын
Grievous: I was suppose to be a badass, but the writers did me dirty. Gohan: First time?
@mattmorehouse9685
@mattmorehouse9685 4 жыл бұрын
"Don't worry man it happens to all of us. I was supposed to be a democratic idealist. Then the author turned me into a hardass military strongman. While this was right after I was deposed during a siege, my then girlfriend had just wiped out an entire army, but I didn't use that for the reelection campaign. -Elend Venture
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of Clone Wars content, not just the TV series, usually tends to focus so much on Grevious combat abilities on the ground and his Jedi killing skills that I too didn't realize how much of a tactical genius he was being able to bring all these elements together. Although, when most battles play out as both sides sending their troops at each other and trying to kill them all there's really not that much nuance in strategy. Sure there are usually primary targets like bases and Droid Foundries, but they usually just blast their way to them or have a diversion so a small team can sneak in to take over or blow it up.
@macwade2755
@macwade2755 4 жыл бұрын
Image if Grievous was in charge of changing the Republic military into the Imperial Military or if he was in charge of forming the different rebel cells into the Rebellion!
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone would be .
@anarquia201
@anarquia201 4 жыл бұрын
The general ability yo organize resourses and army is the most important in the making of a great general Hannibal, Napoleón we're great structural organizers of their respectivo armys The roman war machine was powerfull for their organization
@theseekerofancienttruth3873
@theseekerofancienttruth3873 4 жыл бұрын
Revan had a similar type of tactical Genius, as did Thrawn.
@TheHungarianMan
@TheHungarianMan 4 жыл бұрын
2D Greivous is the true Grievous.
@Stego1819
@Stego1819 4 жыл бұрын
2D Grievous is stupid.
@Scoot694
@Scoot694 4 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY everyone was unnecessarily OP in the 2003 cartoon.. it looks totally badass there but wouldn’t be a good transition if they tried to make those 2D fights live-action.
@TheHungarianMan
@TheHungarianMan 4 жыл бұрын
Well, that's why it's 2D... Not everything translates well into IRL from the 2D world, but non the less it's nice and badass how it is.
@grivous9515
@grivous9515 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoot694 If everyone is OP, so how Grievous is able to fight 5 OP jedis at once? Because it's proportionally OP. Everyone OP or not, still Grievous did what he did in this show. Sadly, it is not canon anymore. Thank you TCW 3D for destroying things that fans loved.
@Stego1819
@Stego1819 4 жыл бұрын
@@grivous9515 It s funny how TCW 2D can get away with retarded BS but when the sequels do it they are trash. 3D Grievous beat every Jedi that wasnt a council member and he even won against Adi Gallia and he drew against Obi Wan and Kit Fisto while the later had a massive advantage because of the fog. How much stronger can a force user be.
@shulkrendemoneye1304
@shulkrendemoneye1304 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the clone wars would have been better if it had switched between bad guy protagonists and good guy protagonist because plot armor had a huge effect on the show
@lordrhino7026
@lordrhino7026 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope we get a Disney plus show if grievous before the clones wars showing everyone how he got the CIS to become the strongest military force in the galaxy. If not for palpatine playing both sides. And then maybe season 2 we see him during the clone wars using those tactics and murdering Jedi in the hundreds
@senagashen2101
@senagashen2101 4 жыл бұрын
Grievous was probably the only one to effectively use commando droids in combat.
@crabmaster3338
@crabmaster3338 4 жыл бұрын
He is by far my favourite character
@CDNKakarot2814
@CDNKakarot2814 4 жыл бұрын
I Always knew the prowess and attributes of Grievous and I hate how people make him a joke, but I like watching videos like this to see if I can learn anything new about characters...I just love star wars to much it's actually depressing lol
@Raving_Rando
@Raving_Rando 4 жыл бұрын
TCW did GG dirty. Legends did his character far better then canon, if you disagree you're wrong.
@-CrimsoN-
@-CrimsoN- 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@smashingpots9928
@smashingpots9928 4 жыл бұрын
7:30 why is grievous crossing the delaware?
@cheesecheese7104
@cheesecheese7104 4 жыл бұрын
To get to a future where there are no jedi
@danielbob2628
@danielbob2628 4 жыл бұрын
To ambush the Republic Bounty Hunters on Life Day
@infinitedonuts
@infinitedonuts 4 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me: General Grevious = an evil Robert E. Lee of the American Civil War *The American Civil War heavily influenced the Clone Wars*
@kristiankepley5944
@kristiankepley5944 3 жыл бұрын
I would call Grevious more a tragic villain with sympathetic backstory. But it’s no excuse for his future actions
@zachhecita
@zachhecita 11 ай бұрын
Dooku is more of an evil Robert E. Lee, I think. In fact, the actor Christopher Lee is a distant relative of Robert E. Lee.
@Verdant11686
@Verdant11686 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about the clone wars is it doesn’t often show his success because he’s up against the likes of Anakin and Obi! Often people find themselves shortcoming against these Legions
@goldeagle6431
@goldeagle6431 4 жыл бұрын
The Senate's genius is underrated.
@almightykingpin6322
@almightykingpin6322 4 жыл бұрын
“Hello there”I love geetslys videos man keeping up the good work one of the best Star Wars channels out there always looking forward please do some more grievous videos if u can
@PurposefullyIneloquent
@PurposefullyIneloquent 4 жыл бұрын
More Grievous!
@gravytube4099
@gravytube4099 4 жыл бұрын
*another great video to add to my collection*
@jamesgorman5692
@jamesgorman5692 4 жыл бұрын
It would have helped especially in the film's if you at least saw him in a council of war.
@ledanoir1239
@ledanoir1239 4 жыл бұрын
He... Kinda does with the sep leaders in utapau
@jamesgorman5692
@jamesgorman5692 4 жыл бұрын
@@ledanoir1239 it's been a while since I watched the film but I don't think he so much consulted with them as told them to stop whining, that was good too though. Thinking back the only background you get for him is in the scrolling intro.
@supremeleadergnkdroid3202
@supremeleadergnkdroid3202 4 жыл бұрын
Be thankful viceroy, that you dint find yourself in my grift !
@MACE_HINDU
@MACE_HINDU 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta remember sidious planned on the cis losesing and everything we see is from the jedis view and based on what he was given he did very well
@andreastveranger1331
@andreastveranger1331 4 жыл бұрын
Pro: General Grievous was a tactical genius, had super battle droids and some other annoyingly hard to kill machines. Con: He also had to deal with other incompetent battle droids.
@mr.deadzone4040
@mr.deadzone4040 4 жыл бұрын
41 likes 0 dislikes. This is the way
@mothman8300
@mothman8300 4 жыл бұрын
73-0 i am da way
@exiarevive5242
@exiarevive5242 4 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@liaml.e.5964
@liaml.e.5964 4 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@Alexthe360Great
@Alexthe360Great 4 жыл бұрын
6 battle droids missed and hit the dislike button- time to go back to reprogramming
@macwade2755
@macwade2755 4 жыл бұрын
General Grievous is my favorite character! I hope that we get Grievous: A Star Wars Story one day!
@grivous9515
@grivous9515 4 жыл бұрын
Im afraid of this if we get the Filoni's version of Grievous.
@masteroftheassassins
@masteroftheassassins 4 жыл бұрын
The very best performance of General Grievous is from the clone wars micro series. Now that was someone to be scared of
@captainrex4070
@captainrex4070 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Admiral Trench and General Grievous I'm the same battle.
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 4 жыл бұрын
Hello the same battle, I'm dad
@wutendeohrenaugenkatze7859
@wutendeohrenaugenkatze7859 4 жыл бұрын
They actually talk about it in the clone wars. He often lures the jedi into traps
@Kovu2004
@Kovu2004 Жыл бұрын
Talking about Star Wars while there’s jazz music playing in the background, I never knew I needed this.
@ledanoir1239
@ledanoir1239 4 жыл бұрын
Run, jedi, run
@iainballas
@iainballas Жыл бұрын
My favorite tactical moment of Grevious was when he was attacking a republic world, and was having trouble dealing with the defending fleet. So he ordered fighters and long-range guns to target evacuating civilian and medical transports, forcing the republic forces to shield the ships with their own hulls. 10/10 would violate intergalactic laws of war again.
@avalon_o3369
@avalon_o3369 4 жыл бұрын
Those 5 dislikes are 5of the Jedi he killed
@Morpho-5.56
@Morpho-5.56 4 жыл бұрын
So basically he’s better at the logistics, organisation and streamlining department.
@generalgrievous7912
@generalgrievous7912 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you for bringing this to light!
@ozzyisdrippy9178
@ozzyisdrippy9178 2 жыл бұрын
In the Clone Wars TV show you can hear the battle droids say something like "This tactic worked just as General Grievous calculated" and it just goes to show that Grievous wasn't acting out in all emotion and actually had strategy, not thrawn level strategy but good enough tactics and strategies to win a naval battle or ground battle more less
@Ophiria
@Ophiria 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@jamesdavis9036
@jamesdavis9036 4 жыл бұрын
You are a bold one!
@valentinoa8354
@valentinoa8354 4 жыл бұрын
The clone wars did make grievous out to be a little incompetent, but it also showed him using great tactics and leading devastating missions. The only thing wrong was that he would get Jedi who fought against him several times thrown against him. It also shows the ingenuity of him by being able to out smart many Jedi and other high ranking people
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 8 ай бұрын
That's why I call him retreating as a "strategic retreat" because he knows that fighting a losing battle isn't worth the effort.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
Grievous was shown to be a true military leader and born leader in original Legends material so much so that even Dooku And Sidious took him very seriously yeah.
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 4 жыл бұрын
11:11 that comment of the week is so accurate lmao
@ccvcharger
@ccvcharger 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, who can forget General Grievous's infamous crossing of the Delaware.
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 3 жыл бұрын
7:32 XD. I Never Thought I Would See Grievous As George Washington. You Made My Day. *Grievous Washington Intensifies*
@elastico8576
@elastico8576 4 жыл бұрын
He is underestimated because the modern clone wars wants it that way
@JediAcolyte94
@JediAcolyte94 4 жыл бұрын
One only has to watch the 2d Clone Wars and see his accomplishments during Durge's Lance to understand Grievous's genius in battle strategy.
@daimyo1178
@daimyo1178 4 жыл бұрын
Goddamn I love your videos.
@user-xg8yy7yl1d
@user-xg8yy7yl1d 4 жыл бұрын
How did droids even outrank other droids? Were higher ranking droids ones with better logic units? It kind of baffles me that droids would need to have a rank structure within themselves rather than just obeying orders from their organic commanders
@senagashen2101
@senagashen2101 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had the same question
@darthguilder1923
@darthguilder1923 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s something to do with how they organize in or between battle, like if a B2 super Battle droid outranks the standard battle droid it receives priority repairs and ammunition or is positioned differently in the formation
@yagdtigercommander
@yagdtigercommander 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthguilder1923 Also it was suppose to help with micro management a General cannot commander each individual soldier to do certain battle tactics so by having lower ranking droid commanders it would help with micro managment. As a General typical has to command the whole theater of engagement focus on the big picture and not get distracted by small details. As that is for the lesser Commanders to lead their battalions within in the army. Then to for the Junior officers to lead the platoons and the ncos to make effective use of each squad. That is where the Clone army excelled at it allowing for a highly mobile and effective fighting force. But the main issue was most of the Battle Droid commanders were bases of the B1 series making for rather weak and commanding figures at least post battle of naboo in the clone wars show. They were neither Charismatic or intimidating like general grevious himself. One example is a B1 tank Commander tells his subordinate tank commanders that we can't fit through these natural barriers as they are hunting master yoda and his clone body guards during a mission to meet the king of wato's people or something. Instead one his tank ncos is like nah were good we can fit. The AAT Driver Floors it and the tank crash's ejecting the b1 nco from his tank. The commander was like next listen orders sigh. Like wheres your Husbah your balls droid commander. Or resorting to insulting your warship gunner because he can't hit shit when the commander could have shown him how to be better his job lol. And Tactical Droids weren't to common and well their Super Tactical Droid Counter parts were a very rare sight to. What would made it a lot easier if the CIS invested heavily in command versions of B2 super battle droids. Although portrayed as slow moving derp's in the show. Well Republic commando show and attack of the clones to extent really shows these lumbering droids ruthlessness not only to the enemy but their B1 comrade in arms to. So having a B2 commander variants would have helped a lot also would spare grevious from having to destroy any useless and annoying b1 all the time. He could simply watch one his B2 subordinate commanders do it for him for his amusement lol. Then Dooku wouldn't have been on his case all the time about the Battle Droid budget lol. And will have same terrifying effect on the B1s to not step out of line or give any back sass lmao allowing for more B1s to be focused on the mission or tasks at hand and less time being annoying and complaining about everything and anything. Lol Clones were organic troopers with more thoughts and emotions than any battle droid. Yet they were more combat effective and disciplined then any confederacy droid. I am beginning to understand why general grevious wasn't always the most patient commander or lack a good sense of humour at times. Some I am getting the feeling that Old Sheev was up to his dirty tricks again lol.
@Putyourdicawaywaltuh
@Putyourdicawaywaltuh 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@jt_rival1234
@jt_rival1234 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized the ball in the middle of the trade federation circle ship that anakin blew up is the same thing as the circular transport launching from the first battle of genosis
@sampolle6989
@sampolle6989 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Timmel holy shit, always wondered what it was
@commonsense5199
@commonsense5199 4 жыл бұрын
Wish Marvel Star Wars gives General Grievous his solo comic series instead of always giving Darth Vader comics.
@georgelee5786
@georgelee5786 4 жыл бұрын
right again geetslys i think the 2003 grievous was a little smarter than the new one.
@dmitritelvanni4068
@dmitritelvanni4068 2 жыл бұрын
That comment at the end tho... "since when was generation tech against xenophobia" Lol oh man that's great. Love both of your channels.
@joshaseltine985
@joshaseltine985 4 жыл бұрын
ok a star wars question did any one find out about palpatens manipulations starting with naboo after the battle of endor
@jimlahey2905
@jimlahey2905 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god dude your intro brought me back so hard
@diverlife2668
@diverlife2668 4 жыл бұрын
Great at unifying them but also great at destroying expensive droids
@firstnamelastname1519
@firstnamelastname1519 3 жыл бұрын
I loved how ruthless general Greavous was against the nightsisters.
@DesolatedChild018
@DesolatedChild018 4 жыл бұрын
“Except for the legendary Grand Admiral Thraw, whose only weakness was the lack of natural resistance to knives” AAAAAAND that’s my biggest problem with OG Thraw. For how much people complain about self-inset I think that Thraw gets too much of a pass on that. I understand why, he is a fascinating character, specially at the time the Thraw Trilogy came (and still today actually) when the only depicted Imperial officers were either practically robots (some literally) that followed 01 logic of obedience, and when demonstrated some character trait it would be either petty personal ambition and pride or fear, and not even fear of the Rebellion, but fear of punishment from someone above the chain of command. Then came Thraw. A complex personality and a almost “benevolent dictator”, a “enlightened despot” of sorts. Someone that led by example, that didn’t killed his subordinates for failing but showed them how to learn with their mistakes, someone that was interested in studying art and philosophy, so that he could understand the cultures he was fighting, and whom didn’t run on “scorched earth” upon victory, but welcomed the surrendering systems into his own mini-empire. He also came from a different background, had to fight his way to the top against all the prejudices of Imperial Hierarchy against non-humans and joined the Empire due to a, at the very least, sympathetic motivation. And, of course, was basically invincible on the battlefield. You almost want him to be the protagonist. And, in a sense, he kinda is. He is more of a anti-hero than a villain. And I’m with all of you, I love him, and wished he was better integrated into canon. BUT He is undoubtedly too perfect. I don’t even know if he have any character flaw, aside from being on the opposite side of the heroes. That’s why his defeat and last minute death came so much out of nowhere to me. Felt like he wasn’t defeated by the heroes, but by “chance”, and by “chance” I mean, plot armor. Because it was the only way it could have happened. He didn’t had much of a flaw that the characters could exploit to beat him. And yes, this element makes it for the perfect villain! In the first moments... The protagonists would have to learn how to beat him, and they cannot do if he doesn’t merely “appear to be invincible” but IS basically invincible. Otherwise, what’s the merit? If I would re-introduce him into canon, I would give him some weakness/flaw of emotional nature. Maybe give him the “Holmes flaw” (the Arthur Doyle OG Holmes) even with his “theoretical understanding” of others, he is too analytical and cold to comprehend true emotional fidelity, which is the only thing Leia, Han and Luke have it better. Idk. That’s always a “impopular opinion” I had, but if you bring it up you get dogpilled, because it’s either full love to the character or the minimal criticism is viewed as “hating him”. But calm down, I DO love the character.
@caos1925
@caos1925 4 жыл бұрын
good to hear the CIS and Grevious like diversity.
@soul1d
@soul1d 4 жыл бұрын
If only george lucas didn't have yes men when he worked.
@YorktownUSA
@YorktownUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Dooku put him in charge of the Droid Army for a reason.
@StonewallTitlow
@StonewallTitlow Жыл бұрын
If Grievous had lived to see the end of the Clone Wars and wrote a book about his experiences, I would buy it.
@Da__goat
@Da__goat 4 жыл бұрын
*Must resist* “Hello There”
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 4 жыл бұрын
*G E N E R A L K E N O B I*
@williamroark7449
@williamroark7449 3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough about the comment at the beginning of the episode about Thrawn, I met the author of the Thrawn trilogy and after asking about how Thrawn could have won he said he just needed to know of Princess Leia's relation to Darth Vader and it would have ended differently.
@senjikenkryomasa2361
@senjikenkryomasa2361 4 жыл бұрын
1:52 good times! Also can you imagine if bulker classes core ship showed up on earth!?
@theimperialofficer604
@theimperialofficer604 4 жыл бұрын
The 2008 series did not do Grievous enough justice!
@pr0jectnico303
@pr0jectnico303 4 жыл бұрын
To me grevious will always be as his first appearance in the original clone wars show
@michelehastings3870
@michelehastings3870 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of thrawn and grevious, this is how a full scale military battle I think would play out between them. Grevious would brutally murder a chunk of thrawns troops, his droid bodyguards following his lead. Thrawn would strengthen his reinforcements analysing grevious for a way too defeat him little did he know that grevious was doing the same. YOU COWARD COME AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN!!!! grevious would roar at the top of his voice. Thrawn would swing down punching grevious hard in the face. The metallic warrior was barely fazed. Thrawn barely dodged a violent lightsabers swing from grevious, and attempting to kick grevious. As quick and agile as a falcon grevious grabs his leg. Thrawn struggles pathetically but grevious has a iron grip. Literally. Grevious wildly swings his lightsabers decapitateing thrawn. He commands his men to obliterate any surviving troops.
@benmedeirosma-youtube
@benmedeirosma-youtube 4 жыл бұрын
If grievous has his clone wars armor in revenge of the sith. Kenobi would be dead. Cause. His chest was fully sealed
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 жыл бұрын
7:32: This... is *glorious!*
@detectivehobson7465
@detectivehobson7465 4 жыл бұрын
Good aye lads
@Fed.Hunter
@Fed.Hunter 3 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@darthrevanthedestroyer9003
@darthrevanthedestroyer9003 4 жыл бұрын
Grievous is daddy
@J4R0D
@J4R0D 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the strategic brilliance of One Punch Trooper goes unpraised...
@postsniper-7532
@postsniper-7532 2 жыл бұрын
Grevious’s tactical genius can be summed up in 4 words time to abandon ship
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