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Why Has Jingliu Returned? | Honkai Star Rail Lore

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@Elfcon
@Elfcon 11 ай бұрын
As long Jingliu and Otto in the same side they will achieve their goals nobody can stop Otto from getting what he wants
@normalpair
@normalpair 11 ай бұрын
I hope he is a villain again. That's like his signature thing!
@Elfcon
@Elfcon 11 ай бұрын
@@normalpair Otto wasn't a villain he was an antagonist same with Kebin, they say it many times in HI3 Otto did a lot of goods and a lot of bads.We saw this side of him in HSR too, he did help people Like the two guys or the kids who was attacked by the flying fish
@DanielDaAbadSukarno
@DanielDaAbadSukarno 11 ай бұрын
No matter How hard and Many sacrifice Otto will Make it! He is the biggest kallen Simp and Clown in The universe!
@hirods9889
@hirods9889 11 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that xianzhou is a fleet and luofu is just one ship. With the epilogue, I don't think we will stay there any longer, that wouldn't make sense if we have to attend to a banquet on penacony. But with the new characters being from xianzhou I wonder if we will have a main quest
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Maybe its just a setup for something after Penacony? Theres still 5 more xianzhou ships, who knows maybe one of them is near penacony or something
@xZeru001x
@xZeru001x 11 ай бұрын
It makes sense why she wouldn't want to be with the hunt. The hunt wants to get rid of abundance, but a part of the hunt is the act of the hunt itself, the battles and the constant fighting. Yukong and others have already pointed out this stuff about the hunt. That Lan doesnt care about casualties and ally from foe and that Lan has the power to sway and win battles but doesn't until so many lives have already been lost. The battle that Lan leads against abundance is a long one and possibly one that wouldn't be concluded for a long time. Another path might offer a faster solution than a long, drawn-out suffering that the hunt provides.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
I wonder whether Lan even wants to end the fight, assuming it could. I kinda wonder whether Lan is just so fixated (and enjoying) the act of the hunt itself that it doesnt want it to end and allows yaoshi to leave unscathe each time just so it could prolong the hunt
@somebodythatyouneverknew5806
@somebodythatyouneverknew5806 11 ай бұрын
​@@Maevix3142 Aeon are bound to what their path do as long as they exist. Lan became an Aeon because it want to finish Yaoshi but if Yaoshi dies, so will Lan. Edit: I was wrong, Lan might might change into a different path, idk
@dorianwynn98
@dorianwynn98 10 ай бұрын
​​@@somebodythatyouneverknew5806We will wait and see kind of different path Lan is gonna take.
@Sambroke
@Sambroke 11 ай бұрын
I had the same thought as you about jingliu joining a new aeon. And nanook was my first thought but i remember a line in yanqings quest where she says she will "never again fall into the path of destruction"
@oshello6940
@oshello6940 11 ай бұрын
If thats true, then the only other choice I can think of are Ouroboros and Aha because they are aggressive
@PuppetStringHolder
@PuppetStringHolder 11 ай бұрын
Now that you brought up Aha, it makes me remember the other mystery of the Xianzhou... what exactly was Sampo doing on the Luofu? If you'll recall, he pranks the TB with a "Neutron Bomb" package.
@seekeroftruth9454
@seekeroftruth9454 11 ай бұрын
@@PuppetStringHolderSampo was on the Luofu??? what??
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Aha would be such an interesting alternative, even more so if this gang of aeon killers ends up getting betrayed by Aha and left to die amidst a sea of laughter.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 11 ай бұрын
She was saying that she won"t let mara to posses her
@charlestonho6733
@charlestonho6733 11 ай бұрын
I think Xianzhou story aka the Hunt still havent end yet as we visit 1 out of 6 Xianzhou ship. Most likely story will continue in another Xianzhou ship.
@OdysseyNaafiri
@OdysseyNaafiri 11 ай бұрын
I'm so tired of Xinzhou already bro and I hope next planet isn't earth like for fcks sake
@charlestonho6733
@charlestonho6733 11 ай бұрын
Next one is Harmony world first@@OdysseyNaafiri
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 11 ай бұрын
@@OdysseyNaafiriNo worries bro were gonna be facing the Family and Xipe next patch, some also says that Aha would be making their presence even more visible, yes the same Aeon who blew up a planet and many of the express trains just to troll Akivili.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
I think we might revisit it in the future whenever the story talks about Lan or Yaoshi again, though anything is possible at the moment
@charlestonho6733
@charlestonho6733 11 ай бұрын
@@Maevix3142 Most likely in another Xanzhou ship. Funny one of ship General also High Elder
@justadragonnamemarcus1751
@justadragonnamemarcus1751 11 ай бұрын
She's returned because she becoming playable character 😅
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
The only right answer that matters 😂
@mirage6335
@mirage6335 11 ай бұрын
Akivili has hard time right now because will be choise between aeons vs his new friends jingliu ,which gonna hunt the abundance. Akivili gain a test which will be decide he is worth it of trust likewise gain of power 2 aeons to lead of their paths. This moment show us true of colours who is bad and who is good. Kafka remind us between that future is not impossible to avoid. She know that at begin whats going on but have to carry on the stellaron to gain in our hands safety. However the way of gain this paths were our role to proof we are that one who bring the peace in the xianzhou between 2 of sides. Because paths doesnt care about the people they stricted the rules for users which want to lead his power. Jingliu itself by lead of power of destruction want finally finish this war so she decide to be emanator of this path. And thrown off away path of the hunt. Because she knew it very well this path wont help them. Luocha has own goal but what connect them they want destroy also abundance which makes for them great group for revenge. But they know yaoshi is such strong so decide to go JY to help them by using his hatred of the abundance to joined them. This is also a key of moment because show us also the JY wont rather lead a hunt path. Thats why he choose a erudition path.
@walpurgisnight7
@walpurgisnight7 10 ай бұрын
My hope is that Jing Liu will lure Yaoshi to be consumed by the Aeon of Voracity, Oroboros. That could potentially get rid of Yaoshi entirely since we know the Aeon of Harmony was able to ascend by consuming the Aeon of Order. If the logic carries over, we have Yaoshi eaten by Oroboros to create a new Aeon that potentially balances both paths by having a ceaseless hunger fed by an eternally renewable resource. Aeon of Stasis/Eternity?
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 11 ай бұрын
I doubt they're gonna win in the end, its like an uphill battle for them, they will really need the of help of multiple Aeons to bring down Yaoshi's Abundance, similar to Tazzyronth before. Not to mention Lan who is hunting Yaoshi for over thousands of years, still fails on bringing the Abundance to it's knees. Their quest would just fail just like Lan, they would be doing this forever.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Pride comes before a fall. Jingliu might be overestimating herself or perhaps is super confident due to some secret she might know though I would agree killing an aeon is likely not going to be easy. That damn ebon deer was hard enough, let alone its mommy 😂
@Valia2899
@Valia2899 10 ай бұрын
There is otto there, so the chance increase so high.
@IdeasAreBulletproof
@IdeasAreBulletproof 11 ай бұрын
I truly Wonder if Jing Yuan will call Back the Nameless at some time and if we see a Jingliu Boss fight. I would love to see a Jingliu Boss fight though especially if Jing Yuan and Jingliu get into a standoff where the Nameless are called back before going to Penacony or a world or 2 of story later
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Im curious how they would handle that, would they show in game that wed travel back to the xianzhou luofu or perhaps the xianzhou luofu ends up in Penacony. Like right now events wise we do kinda go back to belobog for example buts its never shown that the train reverses its course and heads to a previous place. Not saying it couldnt happen, just wondering whether they would mention it explicitly
@mango-float
@mango-float 11 ай бұрын
If ice why hot?
@aristotelesemblem2506
@aristotelesemblem2506 11 ай бұрын
No clue
@Singleplayr
@Singleplayr 11 ай бұрын
still would
@cck4863
@cck4863 11 ай бұрын
Aeon can't be destroyed BUT can be changed or combined with other Aeons. In Weltz flashback, Otto talked of getting rid/reduce the Honkai energy on the Moon, maybe that what he is planning to do: Combined the Aeons of Hunt and Abundance into Herrscher of Rebirth(life and Death) , killing many birds in one shot. Boss Otto had BIG PLANS. The Title of the Game is HONKAI: Star Rail AFTER ALL, no surprise it will have something to do with HONKAI.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Thats true though I wonder how many in the star rail universe actually knows about how things work. They may think they can destroy it but as you said end up not achieving anything
@cck4863
@cck4863 11 ай бұрын
@@Maevix3142 13 Herrschers ,13 Aeon in Archives (15 stated but 2 are dead/absorbed/converted) Stellarons could be Herrschers seed to create a Star Rail from Earth's Moon to this universe. Weltz seem to know a lot on how to deal with Stellarons given how rare it is.
@k31un
@k31un 11 ай бұрын
have we ever gotten information about what happens to an aeon after they complete their goal? Since we know for example The Hunt is to hunt down all abominations of abundance, what would happen after that goal is achieved what are they hunting then?
@songshield_2047
@songshield_2047 11 ай бұрын
Has it happened with "The Justice", it will probably be absorbed or absorb another concept, creating a new path. My theory is that since the abundance and the hunt are two sides of the same coin they'll probably fuse together, creating a path that resembles both concepts
@Haykal_77
@Haykal_77 11 ай бұрын
Thats not how Path works. They didnt become Aeon just because they have a goal. Its the ideology and the perspective that aligned with the path. The goal that they had is something that are born from it.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
I dont think there has been an example where an aeon reached their own personal goal. If there was, I also dont think their path would disappear as the paths are more abstract in nature and seem to originate from sentient beings itself so they dont entirely disappear even if the aeon achieves their goal. Most aeons also seem to just exemplify what the paths itself mean like qlipoth just wants to preserve everything and I think he doesnt really have much of a reason behind it other than just pure obsession
@IO-hh3gw
@IO-hh3gw 11 ай бұрын
I feel like if Jingliu successfully ends The Abundance a new Aeon will emerge cuz Lan only ascended to Aeon-hood on a purpose to hunt down Yaoshi's abomination but if there's no Abomination he basically has lost purpose, Lan can't be "The Hunt" because there's nothing to hunt anymore. Lan & Yaoshi balance each other like Life & Death.
@Haykal_77
@Haykal_77 11 ай бұрын
Thats not how Path works, so I dont think that is the case.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
I dont recall atm, but Lan likely 'hunts' things other than yaoshi's abominations. After we beat phantylia I seem to recall that one of the luofu people mentioned it was foolish for destruction to target one of the xianzhou ships as it may incur the wrath of Lan and once it has its eyes on you itll keep hunting you till youre gone
@abdurehmanmalik2980
@abdurehmanmalik2980 10 ай бұрын
@@Maevix3142 Jing Yuan tells Phantylia "Tell the Legion, that the vengeance of the Hunt shall pursue them."
@BushwalkerSP
@BushwalkerSP 11 ай бұрын
I don't think we will stay on Loufu. Hoyo will not repeat the same mistake as in GI where we got stuck in Liyue too long. It's even possible that some stories might run in parallel. I still don't get what the motive Jingliu and Luocha had to bring Stellaron onto Luofu? If they wanted from Jing Yuan to join Nanook then Phentylia has made that impossible. Maybe Luocha didn't know that Tingyun wasn't real, and why would he give her the Stellaron? Was Tingyun secretly working for Medicus? So many questions.
@popolekupasupport2246
@popolekupasupport2246 11 ай бұрын
I think Jingliu and Loucha are galaxy rangers and they'll fight the Denizens of Abundance.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
I honestly got power ranger vibes from this cutscene 😆. Though the galaxy rangers were said to have been wiped out by one of the genius society members
@popolekupasupport2246
@popolekupasupport2246 11 ай бұрын
@@Maevix3142 In her cut scene with Yanqing she said she wouldn't unsheathe her sword unless she has a target because it would disgrace Lan and bring about destruction. So I don't think she's with Nanook either. Maybe she is just not part of a faction.
@tea_01
@tea_01 11 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched till end but my guess is that she wanna stir some trouble. It might even be related to Dan Feng.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
She wants to go god hunting 😂
@4pachie
@4pachie 11 ай бұрын
yaoshi has so many death flags god i hope they dont kill yaoshi off pls ;-;
@mirage6335
@mirage6335 11 ай бұрын
Yaoshi is good or evil thats how lore describe this one god. He is like a balance of universe which works like karma to punishment each others who make a bad choise and gain own consequences. Yaoshi is most intresting of each other godz after Aha which for us once is good once is bad however he treat mostly everything like just a fun joke which is created by hapiness. Akivili itself is connected with yaoshi but because Yaoshi has own rules akivili cannot found the way to found the same language as yaoshi said. To make do that akivili has to meet a Lan at first , which allow him to prepere for meeting with yaoshi and help him solve the problems which bother them.
@normalpair
@normalpair 11 ай бұрын
​@@mirage6335if yaoshi is good and evil, what is Lan, the rainbow arbiter?
@mirage6335
@mirage6335 11 ай бұрын
@@normalpair hard to say technically his path is convined to by greed and need to the lore story. When somebody need a help he can refuse because hunt rather survive then enter to the fire. He is also such patient like hunters to do that. According to the choises from last time SU. Also when he see a chance he take it advantage and took everything what he need to obtain. So you can call him as selfish god actually :) To awaken LAN trailblazer have to start realize he want gain this what he deserve instead allow the people do what they want. Rn as storyline you saw we give them what they want but we not gain practicly nothing from this just only few parts of mystery scribts which have to solve itself.
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 11 ай бұрын
LOL I doubt they're gonna be able to take down Yaoshi to begin with, look at Tazyronth and his swarm for an example it took multiple Aeons just to bring them down, not to mention Yaoshi is one of the oldest Aeon far surpassing Lan, so Yaoshi's followers are limitless. If Lan wasn't able to take Yaoshi down for thousands of years, I doubt puny beings would make a dent to the Abundance. So no worries broo Yaoshi won't be going anywhere.
@abdurehmanmalik2980
@abdurehmanmalik2980 10 ай бұрын
3:38 This is false, Welt explicitly states (if you talk to him before getting on the Luofu) that both Lan and Nanook aren't classed amongst the stronger Aeons.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 10 ай бұрын
Thats true, though its still possible that Nanook is more decisive than Lan in destroying things and why she might ally with him instead of Lan who may just prolong things to enjoy 'the hunt'
@abdurehmanmalik2980
@abdurehmanmalik2980 10 ай бұрын
@@Maevix3142 makes sense
@deleted6765
@deleted6765 11 ай бұрын
Actually dan heng didn't inherit all of dan feng's powers according to jing yuan
@loider3365
@loider3365 11 ай бұрын
If I'm not wrong Bailu inherited the healing abilities of Dan Feng
@deleted6765
@deleted6765 11 ай бұрын
@@loider3365 we don't know for sure since dan healed himself when he transformed, but it's safe to assume bailu got most of the healing abilities while dan got a nerfed version.
@migu8328
@migu8328 11 ай бұрын
​@loider3365 i think so, Dan Heng got the offensive abilities, while Bailu got the defensive/healing skills. This was kind off hinted at his companion quest
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Even when we see both dan heng and bailu sealing the ambrosial arbor, dan heng speculated as much as he was able to unseal it but not reseal it, something bailu accomplished (with his help). I also like to think this is the reason imbibitor lunae is destruction path and bailu is abundance 😁
@abdurehmanmalik2980
@abdurehmanmalik2980 10 ай бұрын
Dan Heng inherited the destructive abilities and Bailu got the healing.
@Ultimate_Hater75
@Ultimate_Hater75 6 ай бұрын
If they side with Nanook then the trailblazer will become their enemy in the finale. This would imply that one of the last paths that we will unlock will be the Path of the Hunt.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 6 ай бұрын
Imagine the hunt path is so overly broken they have to do it this way. Kinda like getting the ultimate weapon in other games only for the game to be over 😂
@haiffy
@haiffy 11 ай бұрын
Didn't ask, didn't care. Just step on me already
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
She has a blindfold on half the time.. she might step on you in the wrong place 😂
@HardymanK
@HardymanK 11 ай бұрын
They could barely handle an Aeon's herald so I feel they're a far way off from able to defeat an actual one.
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Pride goes before a fall 😂
@pforgottonsoul
@pforgottonsoul 7 ай бұрын
@@Maevix3142 well i doubt they plan to do it anytime soon, probably just making preparations.
@electroneurons
@electroneurons 11 ай бұрын
Mommy moment
@Maevix3142
@Maevix3142 11 ай бұрын
Ice mommy, shes both hot and cold at the same time 😉
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