We are technically East Asians. Our parents grew up in Southeast Asia because our ancestors fled there because of war with the Chinese government. Millions of Hmong still live in China today.

What I've observed from my Hmong friends is that Hmong people love to argue about the stupidest things 😂

Bless you both for covering our people and spotlighting David Yang's artistry/music. Very cool, thank you!

Strange how the US gov't can't remember where they picked up all the Hmong in America from.

I'm Hmong and I prefer to be grouped with Southeast Asians. Thai, Lao, Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc have roots in China but they don't consider themselves East Asians. It would make sense IF most Hmong communities came to the US from China, they could characterize themselves as East Asians but Hmong made it to US via the Vietnam War, so we identify with South East Asia.

We are technically East Asian. Most of our people are in China. Statically saying about 1.1 million.(which I think is off, I think there’s more) Even though a lot of our parents came from south east again countries. But we at the end of the day are from China. Don’t let it distract you. Our roots are from East Asian in China. We historically only lived in SE Asia for a few hundred years but we lived in China for thousands of years. I’ve been really invested in our culture of this last year since serving the military… I really miss spending time with the fam so I’ve been digging more information of our people. Love to our people.

Hmong are actually East Asian. The way we speak our language sound more East Asian such Chinese, Korean, and Japanese. The only reason why we're SEA is that most of our last 200 years ancestor who migrant to SEA adapted to whatever custom the region that was already there.

❤ TY for showing love to the Hmong people! Yes, David Yang's songs are 🔥! This topic is starting to stem further and further because now there are so many minority groups that want to be "differentiated" from others.

I’m half Hmong and half Vietnamese and did a 23AndMe. My results were 50% Chinese and 50% Vietnamese. I was mind blown. 😂

I am Hmong and honestly i don't know how this even effects my life. lol. But cool topic.

Great conversation. Thank you for the research and the coverage. Loved it.

Kudos to y’all for discussing this topic because this is a hot topic within the Hmong community as well. I think you’re going to find varying answers depending on which Hmong person you ask because there are different perspectives. I think it just comes down to, if that person is coming from a technical point or an experiential point.

Always grew watching y’all skits since highschool 2000s. Now I am watching y’all talking about us Hmong. Love it, thanks for taking your time to actually look into it and did y’all research. Appreciate it and thank you Fung Bros!! Come to a new year once or go to Hmong village to try our foods! Or Yia Vang restaurant. Foods is culture ❤️

This is a really great topic guys. It’s very educational and y’all hit it on all ends of the why and maybe reason why groups are Asian say they are from. Very interesting! Keep up the good work guys! ❤ it !!

Great content! Good job covering the topic.

Thanks for shining light on this. ❤

In this comment section it’s easy to tell who knows about our history and culture and ETHNIC identity vs those who have assimilated , I think in the USA to be classified as SEA might have some financial benefits but ultimately when you look at the culture , Language and customs we are clearly East Asian, Hmong people are oldest ethnic people of China and with Chinese origin the same can be said about other ethnic groups such as the mien , ahka and various other hill tribe minorities in SEA they are geographically located in SEA as of today but ethnicity wise their roots and culture are Chinese in origin and many of those ethnic groups have huge populations still in China thriving

Lol never thought id see you guys play david yang songs on here

Keep up the good work Fung Bros!

This a great conversation, thanks for sharing brothers!

Im okay with East Asian. I Never needed the Governments help anyways. Work hard for your money and never take a hand out my hmong people. Because at the end of the day. The lessons you learn from the struggles and adversity will take you far in life. Be proud of your roots and stand next to others saying you never took the easy way. This is what General Vang Pao would have wanted

Most Hmong I know consider themselves more South East Asian. Their music is more towards South East Asian music and generally are more intermixed with South East Asians. You go to any Hmong party and they are playing Saravan music.

Always great discussions! Tysm!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

Many Hmong in America identified as Southeast Asian, but sadly I’m not one of those Hmong individuals. I’m Hmong American, and I’m happy to say that I’m East Asian and Zhongguo (The Middle Kingdom) will and forever be my fatherland and it is the ancestral homeland of my people. Historically, linguistically, and culturally including DNA, Hmong people are East Asian and will always be East Asian people. More Hmong people, those who live outside of China should embrace more of the East Asian heritage and “Chineseness”. China is a big country and its people are very diverse, and Hmong people are of one the ethnic Chinese people since 5,000 years ago.

We was never minority in China, we're natives in China, folks, like Indians are natives in the US.

It's very easy to understand. The Miao is an ethnic minority group in China (definitely East Asian). Hmong's can trace their ancestry back to this Miao originating group but present day Hmong does not necessary have to be seen as East Asian because they are mixed with Southern, South East Asian and Austronesians throughout the ages while the present day Miao assimilated further with Han Chinese. Parent-Child though related just had offshoots into different directions.

Thanks for covering and shedding some light on this topic. There’s a lot of history that is unknown and still being discovered for everyone.

Great content as always❤😊

The Census is more about ancestry and not nationality. That's the main reason official wording is "having origin in the original country" or region of this and that. Hmong origin is in China. Hmong's original country is now the territory of China. China is considered East Asia. Hmongs shouldn't have a problem on census being classified with East Asians since that is their heritage.

Miao/Hmong population statistics: PRC: 9,426,007 (2010) Vietnam: 1,383,547 (2019) Laos: 595,028 (2015) USA: 299,000 (2015) Thailand: 250,070 (2015) The majority of Miao/Hmong people live in the PRC.

Yoooo, I felt this, thanks for making a video on this topic. Hmong people been watching the fung bros and jk party from way before Bart was Unco Same. Respect for showing some love to minority groups.

Love the way you utilize your platform to support the Hmong community!

Hmong are genetically east asians.. those who argue are clueless and don’t know their roots.

As a Hmong person, I’m not sure what to categorize myself as. Majority of Hmong still live in China and majority of the Hmong in America have parents who were born in SEA. Culturally, I’d say Hmong share a lot more similarities with Chinese: last names, language, history, costumes, Confuciasm. It’s only in the last century have the Hmong started to adopt some SEA traditions and words.

Love this!!

thank you guys for always spreading knowledge on our people!

My father came from a province in China that has a large community of Miao people, who is related to the Hmong. I haven't done a DNA test but I'm pretty sure I'm part Miao given my facial features.

I don’t really care but I do think Hmong people are closer to East Asian… culture and language. I have a lot of Chinese friends and I observe our cultures to be very similar, like postpartum. If we didn’t get pushed out to Southeast Asia, we for sure would be considered East Asian.

Guys I haven't watched a video of yours in years, forgot you exist. However, wow I'm so happy to say you still got it. Still have the passion. Informative, little funny, good on you. I'll be an active viewer again 🎉

Impressed with both your knowledge of the Hmong People. Thank you for taking the time to learn of us and covering this.

A few months ago, There is also DNA proved that Hmong/Miao are 60% Han, and Han are 30% Hmong/Miao

If we are to be identified by ethnicity and not nationality, then we should represent it truthfully. Hmong people are a EAST ASIAN ethnicity, our diaspora is Southeast Asian. Labeling our ethnicity as "Southeast Asian" would be the misclassification. It erases our 5,000+ years of history, and grossly mislabels the 11 million+ people back in China (our ancestral home). As more Hmong Americans reconnect with their roots in China, they have become more accepting of the term 'Miao'. This means we have to be accepting of histories and communities that differ from ours. The first Miao/Hmong people in the US did not immigrate here from Southeast Asia, rather they immigrated here from China. There are Chinese-Americans that are Hmong, and there are Hmong-Americans who are from China. Our roots in China is a story that Hmong people from all over the world share, but the story of the Secret War is one that only applies to us. This is simply a political classification. The petition wants to classify Hmong-Americans as Southeast Asian because it will mean more government funding. Being classified East Asian will make it harder for Hmong-Americans to receive funding that would go into helping the community. This is the fault of the model minority myth and the government for treating us as a monolith culture. Also too many outside influence from the Chinese-Americans and Vietnamese-Americans vying for Hmong-American's support and money. Instead of the challenging the model minority myth so that East Asians won't be seen as a monolith and resources are distributed equitably, the petition is using identity politics to quickly get those resources at the cost of our history and letting other groups continue to suffer under a racist myth.

You’re channel is great, I always enjoy the Fung Bros content. Thank you for the topic. I am Hmong and know that since my parents fought to come to the US. I think I would be classified and considered Southeast Asian. Great job, keep it up.

Great topic

I am Hmong, I love your KZfaq channel, keep up the good works, and thanks for talking about us. We are historically East Asians, I am not offended for that classification at all, although I identify myself as Southeast Asian, because that's where I came from recently. Hmong as a group, have been in China for thousands of years even before the Chinese, we share a lot of commonalities with the Chinese culture, language, customs, and names, because we got them from the Chinese. My blood test result is I am 70% Han Chinese. I kinda chuckled when you mentioned our last names spelled exactly like Chinese. We got all of our last names from the Chinese.

Hmong and their many subgroups in China number 9 to 12 millions. They are the 5th largest group in China after Han, Zhuang, Manchu and Hui. I consider myself East Asian but i like SEA cultures because I grew up with Thai and Lao cultures. I always telk people I'm East Asian.

Good content.

You guys are hilarious to watch. Thanks!

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A reminder that Race is genetics and biology, NOT culture & geography.

Thanks for covering my Hmong community. Please continue to provide educational videos like this. Props to your channel.

Nice video!

I’m Iu mien, so close to the hmongs but can’t understand hmong. Our culture is very similar . The fact of the matter is we don’t have a home country but is very obvious we are East Asian originating from China. Whether you consider yourself East Asian or south East Asian. Most of Our people reside in China. Right now there are more hmongs and miens in China then everywhere else in the world combined. But very awesome for you guys to cover this !

Hi Bros - You got it all right except one thing, Hmong were not from Mongolia, but from Mainland China alone.

You guys are good! Thank you for talking about the Hmong people! ❤

And yassss David Yang is amazing. ❤

Im khmer and I consider the Hmong to be part of us South East Asians.

We are East Asians.

Most Hmong don't know their own history or culture. Many still think Hmong are nomadic tribes when Hmong are actually a tribe of settlers who are some of the greatest farmers and hunters. The Hmong musical traditions and spiritual practices talks about their ancestors and life in china all the time, many Hmong just don't pay attention or listen. The Hmong language and culture are more similar and tide to east asian. Dna test here in the USA are not accurate. They only have dna of asians with country under their name. Their dna testing are not in depth. The Hmong still have ancient dna from east asia that only they can have babies of blonde hair with blue and green eyes. Hmong have been in China for 5000-8000 years, Hmong have only been in south east asia for only 300-400 years. Hmong are not south east asian, if only most of you know the deeper history about what the south east asians did to the Hmong and their ancestors many of you would not claim it. Many hmong who consider themselves south east aren't well educated about their hmong identity. When Hmong first arrived in south east asia, Hmong were very different looking, the way they dress, eat, talk, small face and pale skin. They are East Asian, whomever is saying that they are not East Asian is literally erasing 5000 -8000 years of history. You would know if you know and understand the history of the Yellow and Yangtze River. There were many flood stories our elders spoked about.

I recognize my southern Chinese heritage. I’ve never repped southeast Asian. I’m not repping china either. I’m American.

Im Hmong and i identified as both. Raised in the U.S. Our meals are more south east Asia. However, i also identify as East Asia because of our religions and spiritual belief aligns with east asia. Some are still practicing Shaman. We believe after our loves one has past we send them back to our ancestors which is in China. 23 and me, according to my DNA i am majorly east asian. So... 🤷🏻‍♀️

our diaspora is from Laos that's why we're also SEA... the US should remember,those in the US are those from Laos whose families bleed for the US ,kids 10/12 years old died as infant soldiers fighting and saving grown ass americans in a war that wasn't even ours...if Laos is still the most bombed country in the world till these days..it's because of the US

Good job on the video.

The old saying goes, if i dont see the Yellow River, my heart will not be sooth. It does not say, if i dont see the Mekong River my heart will not be sooth. And then in the funeral rites, the soul is guided to the ancient land of Huangdi and Chiyou. The soul is not guided to the mountains of South East Asia. This label is all about government money, not cutural history.

I'm fine with being classified as East Asian. Don't know why those butt hurt Hmong people who knows nothing of history are complaining.

Thank you for using my clip in your video 😊😊😊

hmong is technically east asians. the country with the highest density of hmong is in china (miao). so it would make sense that we'd be considered east asians. census is correct. just bc we live in southeast asia doesn't mean that's our origin. we've incorporated southeast asian food bc we've been there for so long. you ask all the chinese miao/hmong (the OG's) and they'd say we're east asian. in regards to wealth/needing assistance then yes what you guys said in the video is correct.

David yang is a beast 💪

Im confused why there’s a problem in my Hmong community about it…. I thought this was based on origin, as in Chinese origin (majority, not even debatable). I feel like this is a way of cutting off from our miao subgroups in china… I feel like some of our people are just stubborn due to the migration and lack of education. Its so sad that our community does not share the same knowledge on our own history/identity, it’s ridiculous.

I love how yall know so much about us ❤️ 💯

I'm (white) Hmong/Miaozu it's correct to classify us as "east asian". A majority of us are from China and the westernized group are trying to be classified as Lao, Thai, etc. but that's incorrect. Even the majority of us are from China, Yunnan, Sichuan, etc. Even the language is tonal like Chinese languages and NOT like or anywhere near Thai, Laotian languages. The ancestral origin is from China regardless even of those born outside of China. It's because of the Vietnam war that the Hmong outside of China choose not to identify as from China and want the southeast asian which is still incorrect. Just because western hmongs have parents of Lao, Thailand, etc. nationality does not make them Laotian, Thai, etc. They're just born there they don't have the ethnicity unless they intermixed. I'm born in the United States and with parents from both Laos and Vietnam but I still identify as Miaozu/Hmong from China. It's not the nationality, it's the origin of ancestry which is in China = fact. The census is correct, east asian is the correct group.

Here to read all the comments from all the Hmong experts who hold PhDs in Asian Studies. We here in America can’t even figure out if we are male or female… and here we are in the comments trying to reclassify Hmong. Bruh, you can be whatever you want to be nowadays.

I am Hmong and everyone I know considered ourselves to be Southeast Asians.

Um... I'm Hmong and we are East Asian our own stories say that our ancestors are from Central China. We are not Mongolian.

Just happy to see Hmong content guys

Hmong are east Asian because there are more Hmong in China than in another country. The idea that Hmong should be classified as South East Asian is wrong. This idea came from the younger generation.

The term, "Hmong", was named after the people had migrated into the SE Asia regions ( According to National Geographyic Magazines) although our ancestors were originally from China. It is similar to how the American called themselves, "American", after they left Great Britain. If you're Hmong, you're SE Asian. If you're Miao, you're Chinese..

it’s the David Yang shoutout for meeee! ❤️🥹🙏🏽

This was an interesting topic. I didn't even know this was a thing until now. I always considered myself SEA. But I'm half Hmong and half Cambodian so I'd still be considered partially SEA right haha

Perhaps the Hmong in the States identify as SEA in order to permeate that tough guy image? With all the fighting at the New Year's festivals, their public perception is more like the gangster SEA image much more so than Chinese.

I think a Hmong person will view this based on their family's immigrant history. Idk but my family only did 2 generations in SEA before coming to the US. We're also now 2 generations in the US. My family did not stay long enough to be that influenced by SEA cultures. Plus, my family is still pretty traditional and our traditions are most similar to the Hmong people in Southern China. Yes, my dad went there and found his direct family line. You can trace yourself back if you know older people and some unique last name traditions. The issue is, most Hmong kids nowadays don't know anything about their cultural tradition. My younger brother thought our culture was more similar to SEA. But he doesn't even know his own traditional culture..much less, any SEA culture really. So no idea how he even came up with that in the first place. I yold him, at most, you probably relate more to being an Asian American who grew up eating SEA food with immigrant parents. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hmong people belong to the Miao ethnic group who are indigenous to lower China, from provinces of Guizhou and Yunnan. There are many types of Hmong/Miao that still live in China and also in SE Asia. Ethnically, Hmong/Miao are rooted in China. Some Hmong/Miao people carry Chinese surname such as Xiong, which suggests intermixing with Han Chinese people with surname Xiong, which most people in China with Xiong surname are in Hunan, Hubei, and Henan. Hunan is next to Guizhou which has alot of Hmong/Miao people, so this makes complete sense if there where marriages between Han Chinese and Hmong/Miao. Guizhou is next to Yunnan. Yunnan is next to Vietnam which is next to Laos. You can literally map out the migration. Ethnically hmong/miao people are rooted in china, being hmong and living in SE Asia doesnt necessarily change your ethnicity, but maybe nationality. But then again it will determine by the type of Hmong / Miao the person is since there are many types and lots of intermixing , but fact is Hmong people are originally and indigenous to China. I am full Hmong Xiong and American, my parents are from Laos and Thailand, I know my ethnic origin is in China, which is why my last name is Xiong, which means bear in mandarin. Either way, slay. 💁🏻‍♀️💕

Hmong people are East Asians. Chi Yu the leader of Hmongs fought against Huangdi the Yellow Emperor and his Chinese military back in ancient times. Our roots go all the way back maybe like 5000 years ago.

Hmong are East Asians. We have history and the proof for it, and there is DNA to track it back. Hmong people came from China, and we are the natives of the Yellow River. Looking back at their historical and traditional roots, Hmong people eat white rice, while Han Chinese eat millet. We are Southeast Asians by accident because we used to rule in North Laos to push off the Chinese Taiping Bandits and Muslims. If we go back, Emperor Chiyou is our king. If Hmong Americans want to identify as Southeast Asians, I don't think they know their bloodline and roots. They don't know Chiyou, and they don't know their past kings and queens. Have they forgotten San Miao/Three Hmong Kingdoms? Have they forgotten the Hmong Chu Dynasty? Scholars are now debating whether Liu Bang is a Hmong person. They don't know, but Liu means Lor in Hmong. Lao Tzu also graduated from the Hmong Chu Dynasty, which proves that. Hmong people have dwelled in China for a very long time. We have 65% Chinese vocabulary, while the rest is Hmong or borrowed from Vietnamese folks.

Correct. Hmong people originated in southern China. We only started appearing in Laos and Vietnam in the late 1800s. Around 1890. Majority of Hmong Americans are from SEA, but if we're looking at the overall picture then Hmong people are East Asian. The highest population of Hmong is still in China (Yunnan, Sichaun, Guizhou).

Nice, got David Yang on this video, anyone who is not hmong I definitely recommend checking out our music, don’t gotta know the language to enjoy

Thanks for discussing the topic 😊. I think people should just identify themselves as they want and at the end of the day it depends on what region or country they are from or identify with. Honestly when I had to fill that in, in grade school, I just wrote in Hmong, filled in Chinese, and marked others 😅 …

Hahaha homeboy said he 1 or 2%hmong. 😂😂😂😂 I love you brother.

We are the real hill billies of every Asian country.

Hmong are technically Chinese, but modern Hmong is culturally mixed with SEA. That's kind of the result of not having a country. Our language is very similar to Chinese (Mandarin). I personally don't care either way. I'm American. And that matter more.

I am Hmong. I lived in the Midwest. I consider myself Southeast Asian.

Problem with these large ethnic classifications is that you cannot put them into neat boxes! There are a lot of Hmong people in China and Southeast Asia. Historically, many Hmong even intermarried with the Han and took on Han customs. Using languages (i.e.Sino-Tibetan) as a criteria for an ethnic grouping based on geographic location is terrible practice. Tibetan languages are spoken in China, parts of Nepal, and India. Would Tibetans be considered East Asian or South Asian? Burmese is a Sino-Tibetan language but they live in Southeast Asia. Would Burmese be considered East Asian or Southeast Asian?

East/SouthEast both are correct, but personally since I was born in SEA, I’d consider myself as SEA. All in all just depends where you came from and associate with.

The david yang clips got me rolling 🤣🤣

I'm looking at the OMB's Directive 15 which is what included the new guidelines but looking at the forms, i'm not seeing where Hmong are "East Asian" as opposed to "SE Asian" because there is only an "Asian" category and no East or South or Southeast category. Maybe someone can show me the form instead of a rage tiktok that doesn't show it

there are 10million hmong/miao people in china today, are they also considered SEA?

I'm Hmong. I would rather be called Southeast Asian.

Hmong is tricky since we stem from china but reside in multiple parts of the world. Plus, we dont have our own country to support what category we should fall under either. Thanks for the support Fungs bros!

Thanks for covering about hmong people. I'm hmong and my 23andme consists of Chinese, Vietnamese, Laotian roots! It's pretty crazy and cool. Please cover more thank you.

I was just recently in Sapa, Vietnam (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h66VmNaem7nUaJs.html), which is majority Hmong. The place is practically right on the Chinese border, and looks and feels much more like China than it does Vietnam. If you plopped me down there, and told me I was somewhere in the Chinese highlands (without seeing any signage), I would believe you. The residents also appear more Chinese than Southeast Asian, with some even able to speak a bit of Cantonese and/or Mandarin! Of course, I'm not sure if this is spoken natively, or acquired later due to commerce. In addition, they speak their own Hmong dialect, plus Vietnamese. Obviously, I didn't ask them at the time, but I wouldn't be surprised if they identify more as East Asian than Southeast Asian.