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@CVPTV Жыл бұрын
The Sony VENICE 2 & RIALTO Extension System is awesome but let us know what you think of it down below!
@JOAOAUGUSTODIASABREU Жыл бұрын
What I think? I want one 🙏🙌💯😂 pleeeeeease 😂 great review guys, as always
@blah3242 Жыл бұрын
I work at Keslow Camera and helped the camera team on Top Gun: Maverick for an entire year and a half with getting this thing setup. Saying it was insane is an understatement. Claudio Miranda had countless lens tests and Dan Ming, Bob Smathers, and Max DeLeo prepped camera for an entire 3 months prior to shooting. a normal feature film preps for maybe 4-5 days. They had the exact dimensions of the cockpit mapped out on the floor in tape so he can figure out exactly how to run all the cabling for the Rialto blocks. The crew worked directly with our R&D team to design and manufacture all the brackets needed to pull it off. Custom camera trigger boxes were needed to start recording on all the cameras at the same time and had to be done by the cast. The Voigtlander lenses were modified to remove the hoods that come stock on them because they would get in each others shots. Not necessarily for weight but more so for space. IIRC at it's peak, Top Gun had 32 cameras out at the same time across multiple units. None of the custom gear can be used again because it's all certified by the US Department of Defense. Sadly it may never see the light of day again. Keslow is the owner of Venice & Rialto serial #1. If you rent from them you may get lucky and get it!
@roo1538 Жыл бұрын
I like Miranda's work. Thanks for sharing!
@kylehessling2679 Жыл бұрын
You could literally wear a backpack and run and gun like its a mirrorless rig...that's awesome!
@markymarkvancity Жыл бұрын
except you still have to carry all the weight of the body and its got some heavy bones..
@marianoguy Жыл бұрын
@@markymarkvancity or... someone else can carry it
@sendykumalakanta1 Жыл бұрын
This system was also used to film "Minamata" in 2019. I remember I was blown away by it, when they removed the sensor to get low to the ground dynamic shots of Johnny Depp for a frog eye perspective view. Almost like having a smaller form factor camera or mirrorles with a powerful brain...
@AllThingsFilm1 Жыл бұрын
The Venice camera with the Rialto system sounds like a dream configuration. If I could afford the Venice 2 camera, I would definitely include the Rialto system in my setup.
@yaelsoto2742 Жыл бұрын
wow that sony venice 2 is a true beauty, the detachable mount is very practical even to put a stabilizer on it without losing the brutal specifications. 😍
@panoramavideoproduktionrob3325 Жыл бұрын
Like CVP mentioned, Sony got inspired by the extension unit from the ARRI Alexa M. As far as I know, ARRI abandoned the M-Line...
@RednWhiteWorld Жыл бұрын
Exactly, like 8 years ago
@thorwaldjohanson2526 Жыл бұрын
I am hoping Arri will revisit this.
@watchvideosoul 11 ай бұрын
I’m not sure that’s correct about Sony being inspired by the Alexa M. The Alexa M was released in 2011, I think. But way before that in 2006, Sony had the HKC-T1500 which is essentially exactly the same concept.
@Typh00n2000 Жыл бұрын
Great video and pretty incredible system! Although I would say there was a little missed opportunity to not mention Avatar: The Way of Water with that weird stereoscopic setup they had.
@MaxamillianStudio Жыл бұрын
1:06 Total Ghostbuster vibes!
@jonathanhamilton2308 Жыл бұрын
Love this - back to the 90s/00s with small high quality agile cam systems - thanks CVP for super informative and thorough (as always) deep dive. Will share with colleagues and students- cheers + love the 80s/90s video game arcade!!
@markymarkvancity Жыл бұрын
Just finished prepping venice 2 for a 5 week feature. There are some things I like about it like the full set of internal ND's, 2x 3pin fischer standard, and the control panel on dumb side. Thing's I dislike are the EVF, the arri cage is mediocre at best and attaching TX is a nightmare compared to alexa studio or mini, also attaching an MDR is not fun. I like the idea of the rialto system but I believe if you want to use it that way it's better to have a dedicated body for rialto because when you have to changeover it's literally like building an entire new package. Backpack rigs are also contradictory for tight spaces as the op is gonna be banging the body into walls and things behind him. Guarantee it happened multiple times on boiling point.
@anirudhtd7193 Жыл бұрын
Would you prefer an arri lf or the Venice?
@markymarkvancity Жыл бұрын
@@anirudhtd7193 mini, mini LF, or alexa 35 > venice 2 imo. My colleague was on B cam for s1 of Last of Us and they used a stripped down mini LF body with backpack rig to mount TX, MDR, battery etc. The body is a couple lbs heavier than the rialto extension when stripped but overall weight and size is smaller because you're not carrying the additional huge body on your back. Mini also more versatile for steadicam, ronin2 and crane etc. Also the alexa mini EVF > sony EVF. Somehow the mini EVF is smaller and has a flipout LCD screen than the sony EVF.
@SDA921 Жыл бұрын
The Venice 2 and Rialto system create a formfactor that I would love to do some shoots with. Unfortunately they are at a price point a touch out of my scope until I hit bigger and more frequent clients X"D But, as with most tech, I can see this system making its way down to the lower end of the pro lineups within a decade or two. Thankfully cameras like the FX3 pair fairly well with the FX9 and give your a smaller formfactor to fit in those tighter and more awkward spaces. But definitely keep the high end showcases coming :3 I love seeing what the industry has on all spectrums and seeing where we are headed with technology~
@Dlowreyjr01 Жыл бұрын
Ok Sony… let’s see a 4.8k Venice sensor later this year. With dynamic range that competes with an Alexa 35, higher frame rates, and Venice 1/2 compatible. Boom!
@daniellove162 Жыл бұрын
People don’t realize that when you use the rialto system with the Venice 1 it can not do RAW but uses a 10 bit log file.
@haxstir Жыл бұрын
6K at 10bit for cinema is fine.
@Alexmcasteel Ай бұрын
why you telling lies lol.
@Stasiek_Zabojca Жыл бұрын
It's so clever and so useful that it's weird that it wasn't widely adopted many years ago. I wish you mentioned how they connected two of them to record Avatar: The Way of Water in IMAX 3D.
@CLOCKCOUNTRY Жыл бұрын
We've used it for a few shoots where I was a 2nd AC with the body strapped to a cine saddle and that saddle strapped to me. I would just move with the DP and kind of spot him at the same time. Also because it wasn't on my back, but resting on the saddle in front of me I had quick access to the camera settings. This system can be a real advantage shooting here in Tokyo where space can be non-existent in certain locations.
@dmoney1324 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it would make more sense for the whole camera to be on a cine saddle with just one person instead of the camera in two pieces with two people if space was a big deal…
@memostothefuture Жыл бұрын
The most useful channel on youtube knocking it out of the park again.
@ScribblebytesWorldwide Жыл бұрын
You just melted my brain. Thank you.
@DubYaJsWorld Жыл бұрын
So cine cameras turning into mirrorless cameras and mirrorless cameras are turning into cine cameras. What you can get out of a a75, R5, s5ii, and many others can easily go on the big screen. What a time we live in!
@cjkalandek996 Жыл бұрын
Other movies you forgot to mention were shot with the Sony Venice are _Avatar: The Way of Water_ and _Black Panther: Wakanda Forever._
@sammorganmoore Жыл бұрын
nice vid. I gotta rig this tomorrow and now I know most of what I need to know :) that emount tucked away brings an option if the cine glasss is too heavy
@Joshua_S Жыл бұрын
I love how everyone started to make videos about the rialto system when topgun came out and I was shooting with it 1 year before that xD
@weareallbeingwatched4602 Жыл бұрын
It has that "Sony look". Grey-green and kinda milky/hazy is their style. Japan winter misty daylight colour spectrum.
@ResizeFilms Жыл бұрын
Favorite camera. 🖤
@impatrickt Жыл бұрын
i covered the rialto in my top gun video. it's awesome.
@joshkiddfilms1295 Жыл бұрын
Varicam 35 also had a similar system to this. It’s a great concept
@johnclay7644 Жыл бұрын
informative 6.5mins, do the FX6 (sony) too, Thanks CVP.
@omenka Жыл бұрын
Great video! In andor they used the arri lf as main cam and the venice as bcam
@cobymarcum1442 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review CVP! 👍
@a8uella Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how they got that corridor shot in ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ with such little room for a cinema rig. Nice
@RealMilschmann Жыл бұрын
DJI ronin can do it also for a quarter of the price
@vlcheish Жыл бұрын
Very cool for VR production. Probably get the IDP correct being that small.
@pradeepr2044 Жыл бұрын
Amazing camera
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
I could have sworn I JUST WATCHED a video just like this 🤔🤔🤔
@urwholefamilydied Жыл бұрын
so crazy that Sony makes some of the best digital cameras now (a company that never made cameras.. and when they did, it was those consumer digital pocket cameras. They've always been a solid company... but just weird to me, a kid growing up in the 80's and 90's that Sony... fricking SONY, is now responsible for movies that cost 100 million dollars to make and have a cast and crew of hundreds of people. Sony... the people that gave us the consumer tape player.
@ryanfoley8035 Жыл бұрын
sony did this back in the 90s with an ENG camera BVP-T70
@mikelardy Жыл бұрын
I swear I saw a Pentax Takumar on one of those Top Gun cameras!
@familygonzcartwright Жыл бұрын
Could you do a full review of the original Venice?
@toster7416 Жыл бұрын
О, прикольно, вчера видел как на Арбате на такую снимали какой-то сериал)
@ingaman Жыл бұрын
I legit thought those fighter jet scenes were all done in a digital backlot
@ReganRoss Жыл бұрын
This is so funny. All the would be KZfaq filmmakers are trying to get larger and larger looking cameras (or at least trying to make their mirrorless cameras look like cinema cameras by adding matte boxes that they don't even use) and Hollywood is like 'hey if we didn't need all the buttons, and inputs, we'd be using smaller cameras too.'
@AlmightyUniden Жыл бұрын
How long can the cable go? Is it a fixed length?
@ShashankTinkuSharma Жыл бұрын
please review samyang V-AF prime lenses.
@2handsomeforlaw Жыл бұрын
It's also nice in a 3d rig using two cameras.
@remka2000 Жыл бұрын
The name makes sense, the Rialto being this famous bridge in Venice (Italy, not California 😂).
@adonistopofmen2571 Жыл бұрын
Great cameras ...
@beany Жыл бұрын
But where is the link to the short film you shot?
@CVPTV Жыл бұрын
You can see it in this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j759lLily72sm4k.html
@8lec_R Жыл бұрын
Sent here by frame Voyager 😆
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
👊
@giljesusseraspe9225 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@henryshingalili4181 Жыл бұрын
Imagine, if more manufuctureser could so this and have common cable systems that allowed third parties to develop their own sensors (or bodies) a red Red sendor with a sony body or vice versa
@IaroslavKerget Жыл бұрын
nice, thank you
@Nick_Lavigne Жыл бұрын
I always wished I could get a top end Sony camera since the F65.
@haxstir Жыл бұрын
The F65 you can buy cheap these days
@loudandclearmedia Жыл бұрын
It would be a killer webcam.
@vhateg Жыл бұрын
Jokes aside, it won't. It doesn't have autofocus.
@loudandclearmedia Жыл бұрын
@@vhateg I've used a pocket 6K as a webcam...pretty frequently actually. If you're just sitting there, and have peaking pulled up on a monitor it's not tough to do.
@antonymification212 Жыл бұрын
.... And before the SI2K mini; We only had the BVW-35 BetaCam SP NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT UMATIC.
@suniansyah Жыл бұрын
This not camera, this is SONY...
@vertujoe2886 Жыл бұрын
the only curiousity i have is that why no manufacturer made this design since the seperate camera / vtr era...
@sixsoxsex1 Жыл бұрын
And the winner is ARRI, they made it 9 years ago
@jackiegyf Жыл бұрын
may I know which camera shoot you in this video?thx
@CVPTV Жыл бұрын
Canon R5 C! Jake
@jackiegyf Жыл бұрын
@@CVPTV The picture quality is really great, I wanted to buy the r5c, but the price in China and the US is too high. I finally chose bmpcc6kpro. Picture quality is okay too.😁😁
@alexschettino1277 Жыл бұрын
Worked as an AC for gig with this camera. Honestly Did not like it. Shoots well but it's kinda hard to be quick with between setups
@veeran3314 Жыл бұрын
Dhanush greay man
@emmanuelnkwocha1275 Жыл бұрын
u forgot black panther 2 was shot on the venice and venice 2
@nadiration Жыл бұрын
Why am i watching this? I need to sleep.
@NPC_averagemale003 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where GoPro has PL mounts.
@Helios824 Жыл бұрын
Alot filmmaker's use this camera
@andrewowusu-mensah7834 Жыл бұрын
DJI be like ✍✍✍
@kurtnelle Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, it was a little difficult to get excited about this system. I'd have to know more about how robust that cable system is.
@deejayiwan7 Жыл бұрын
I love how they use plastic E lenses on high end camera 😃😃🤪😁😁😆
@pyalot Жыл бұрын
Almost as if Sony wants a pocket size cinema camera...
@lumborecords Жыл бұрын
kinda ghostbusters
@dmoney1324 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they used it mostly because the Alexa mini didn’t shoot 4k.
@CVPTV Жыл бұрын
If that was the case why not use the Mini LF? Jake
@matzhouse Жыл бұрын
Do I need a Venice? No. Am I now working out why I need a Venice? yes. Video calls are a good enough reason, right?
@KOKOBC Жыл бұрын
I think avatar 2 also used it
@jamesbridges1107 Жыл бұрын
3/4" Used it first ; )
@darrenorange2982 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why this needed, I feel like most would just use a FX3 in these situations. That should intercut seamlessly.
@daniellove162 Жыл бұрын
There are a few things Sony would have to unlock with firmware in order for it to be more appropriate like DCI, true 24fps, open gate and shutter angle. Of course the Venice shoots 6k as well.
@darrenorange2982 Жыл бұрын
@@daniellove162 I'm less concerned about the resolution, but yea huge issue if it lacks true 24 and is not actually DCI, but I figure that doesn't mater much if you chose to record ProRes RAW.
@daniellove162 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenorange2982 - This is crazy but the Rialto system does not actually record RAW on Venice 1, only 10 bit log.
@Dlowreyjr01 Жыл бұрын
@@daniellove162 that is completely false. You can record 16 bit RAW on the Venice 1 through the R7 via Rialto. And ProRes RAW is the most overrated codec around. You get way more practical use out of ProRes 4444 XQ.
@daniellove162 Жыл бұрын
@@Dlowreyjr01 - The production house I work at has 2 Venice 1s with the AXS-R7 backs. Show me documentation that the Rialta system can leverage the R7 back. At Cinegear 2022 we had exclusive meetings with Sony execs. They talked about how in Top Gun 2 the RIALTA does NOT accommodate RAW. Even the RED corporate was trashing the Rialta for not doing RAW.
@ele4853 Жыл бұрын
Sony owns most of hollyweed. That's why.
@DJAYPAZ Жыл бұрын
Excellent observation.
@Vibrance_Visuals Жыл бұрын
Avatar?
@axelvetter Жыл бұрын
Yes, Avatar 2 was shot with two Venices with Rialtos mounted into a 3D rig.
@illikkal Жыл бұрын
Is this the camera made for James Cameron?
@2424rocket Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest… The Sony Venice as far as I’m concerned does not look very good. The number one camera used by Hollywood is the Alexa. And more people use Red then the Venice.
@AndreasQuandt1974 Жыл бұрын
Not a new concept. In 2009, Silicon Imaging introduced the SI-2K. A digital cinema camera with a detachable sensor block. Slumdog Millionaire was partially filmed on it.
@CVPTV Жыл бұрын
We mention this in the video mate!
@watchvideosoul 11 ай бұрын
@@CVPTValso the Sony HKC-T1500 back in 2006.
@watchvideosoul 11 ай бұрын
@@CVPTVoh, also the F65 T-Head!
@rvishal6318 Жыл бұрын
No they don't, almost every major movies at Oscars are shot on arri
@andywakeman9806 Жыл бұрын
Or you could shoot on an FX3 and most wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. 😅
@JackEnriqueC Жыл бұрын
the fx3 wouldnt work at all, not only is the image difference alot when you start grading and doing vfx passover, the venice would allow for sdi output and the bigger body works alot better
@apuchamling8009 Жыл бұрын
Japanese technology Made in nippon
@360DigitalStudios Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Sony has been obsessed with this tethering for years. I'd rather use something like a Komodo.
@SpongeBob-xh8ir Жыл бұрын
DJI copied it
@tihzho Жыл бұрын
Your glasses are crooked.
@subhradeepsharma Жыл бұрын
I will have two please.
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