We have tried removing the racial labels. But no one wants to give them up. "If you don't see color, you don't see me." If the color of your skin is the beginning of your identity instead of your spiritual experience,being the beginning of your identity, that is part of the huge problem. If you blame everyone in a race alive today for the mistreatment of your ancestors, that is part of the huge problem. If you refuse to walk forward in faith and hope just so you can remain a victim, that is part of the huge problem. If you think that by reversing the racism to knock people to their knees is a solution, you need to look to God. Finally: What I see is the crescendo of this reverse racism has a financial hope at the end. If you are victim enough, if you say today, all your ills happen because the blonde woman at work doesn't like you or you don't get treated well because the white man that is the boss hates you... reparations. If people heal and black people no longer feel they are oppressed... no financial payout. I speak as a Native woman who has walked through life, the granddaughter of a man put in a boarding school at the age of 6. I was blessed with the forgiveness he gave to everyone. For the love he showed to all humans no matter what their skin color. And blessed with the grace of his lessons in self-reliance and love of God. I hold no animosity toward any race. I was taught to take people on their own merit. But, then again... I am a much different person than most today.

Supporters of CRT seem to deliberately blurr the definition, so i would define it first, even if the definition is not perfect.

You nailed something I've been feeling for a while now, to "deracialize". Referring to myself as "white" has been strange, I'm adopted and not really sure what my family history is. Does "white" mean I am Irish, German, British? I don't know and since I'm "American" it doesn't mean a whole lot to me personally. White is a label that was given to me, but it doesn't have any personal relationship to me. I don't like the phrase "banning books" because it's loaded with a negative connotation. If it's exploring themes that's one thing, but the books with sexually explicit scenes, especially between teens and adults, is not censorship, it's protection.

Thank you Kimi. Your perspective is always solid. I’m going to look at Desmond Tutu’s 4 step process

There an experiment that was done where they put prosthetic FX makeup on women to make them look disfigured to go into a job interview and see how they would be treated. The women aaa themselves in a mirror and saw the scarring so knew what they looked like. But just before they went in, the makeup artist would check on the makeup one more time but then secretly remove the scarring so they looked normal, but the women didn't know this. They went into the interview and afterwards I think it was like 80 or 90% I can't remember but it was a very high number said they were convinced that comments were made during the interview about their facial disfigurement. This is just one example of just how dangerous victimhood mentality is. Look it up "facial disfigurement experiment".

I’m a Rwandan who recently moved to the US for school and even I never made the connection about how incompatible US racialization and our own path towards healing are! Thank you for the great video! I’m still hesitant to the idea that our own strategy can be successfully transposed to the US context but I would love suggestions on where I can start learning about racelessness?

I listened to the podcast and I have to disagree with the constant sentiment that we, white Americans, have to acknowledge how awful the founding of America was. Every civilization ever mentioned in history in the Bible for that matter had its founding in violence. God told Israel to go in a smite ALL of the inhabitants of the promised land. I’m not saying this to justify the violence, but it must be acknowledged that we can’t judge the founding of a country solely on the violence that happened because there is plenty of good pouring out of the country as well. I feel people of color are ‘conditioned’ or taught to believe that if the white people simply said I’m sorry we were wrong what we did was horrible would go a long way to solving the issue ….. I mean really?!?! First of all that has happened many times over and second imho that wouldn’t solve it or make anything better. The only thing that makes “it” better is true genuine relationship with the Lord. Why? Because He is the great equalizer and lover of our souls. Because of His relationship with us we learn that all of the unrighteousness poured out on to us during our lives was never His intention, it is the result of sin in this world. Realizing THAT is no small thing. And we too are wretched awful children of wrath until we’re not by the Grace of God It’s always man’s or Satans idea to get us to feel we are somehow special in our victimization. I’m sorry I’m soap boxing but I saw something and I wanted to comment. Normally I don’t My point is nothing really matters except self reflection, and reflection on the human race in light of Gods word

On the form for your car license for example there is a box to choose white black other etc I choose other and write South African 🙃 I always thought it’s weird that they are still asking that.

I loved this so much Kimi. I think you are on the right track.

@Kimi Katiti Have you watched “Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom”? If so I’m curious what you thought about it.

Kimi !! Looove your videos I'd loooove to interview you

When people say we don't talk about slavery, do they realise that America's slave history is the most studied, documented, depicted and talked about kind of slave history in the entirety of world history. That 400 years of American history is a tiny section of the 30 000 plus years of slave history. Brazilian, Columbian, Haitian and indeed even African, is not known even fractionally as much as American slave history. Modern day slavery is not talked about as much as American slave history. Lastly on this while Republicans don't want to learn slave history is crazy. Freeing the slaves is literally Republican history. I'm libertarian, and I agree with Morgan Freeman, who's probably also not Republican. Something about all this is intellectually corrupt...

Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought CRT was only taught in college and mostly in law school. So the ideas spread into young minds of what you call "victimhood" mentality has nothing to do with CRT. But as a young adult I considered knowledge to be a weapon. Being more aware of systems of oppression made me stronger. Not a victim because i've always known that God is on my side. And I don't believe that African American kids specifically believe that collectively bc the system is set against them, their only option is to seek revenge ofherwise they would have done it long ago. They are just not at peace because they've never received justice. All the social justice movements in the past have proven that Black folks are resilient, powerful and are capable of fighting for change. That does not mean though that the fight is over. If anything I feel inspired by those movements and absolutely not in a state of victimhood. Dick Gregory the social activist comedian used to say "America has never cleaned up the filth ( of History) for 400 years. His speech at the State of the Black Union 08 was very powerful. You should check it out.

Are you a left or liberal?