My sentiments exactly. Not to say I won’t one day but I know I better be prepared for it. But I also have a family who will NOT want to do dangerous stuff. For now I’m happy. Once I get gearing (which I know I need to do cuz its sluggish with the weight) I may consider 35s

Exactly! So that's why you choose what is best for what you need

Me too

Awesome! Keep me posted on how you like it!

After how many years I want to go to 35 but I would need gearing first. I'm still happy with the 33s though so I'm not in a rush

That's awesome! It's all about finding deals and being happy about your decision at the end of the day.

My friend Chris @eodjeep who helped me install this had spacers and 33s too for awhile and they worked just fine.

Agreed man. At 3.21 gears I’m already somewhat struggling on 33s and the weight of everything else. What more if I go to 35s. Not to mention my GVWR is already through the roof lol

@@BaptismOverland yeah gear isn’t light weight. Another thing to think about with what lift you go with. It’s a science to stay a daily but build your Jeep the way you use it. Lol

Nice! I keep getting tempted to go bigger but if it ain't broke right?

Love that! I love hearing about how things were done before all the technology came out. Make do with what you got. Nothing like old school mentality.

Agreed! It also has that Australian look (because in AUS they can't get 35s easily as it's not street legal). So you don't see a lot of overland rigs there on humongous tires. I've loved the setup 3 yrs later and thankful for my MPG and easier to replace tires haha

I was skeptical too then I watched Ronny Dahl's video comparing steel with alloy and I said ok I'll try it and man they looked awesome. And price point?? You can get them for like $80 a wheel and they're extremely tough and rugged. A bit heavier than your alloys though so just keep that in mind.

Agreed.

The grapplers were the ones I wish I got but didn't know until AFTER I got the falkens lolol. But I love them both. Here's the funny thing...I kept getting vibrations at 70mph and did everything to correct the geometry of everything but it was STILL THERE. I had it balanced 3 times and nothing. Read somewhere that Falkens are like that. But then I took it do discount tire who specializes in balancing and found out that it wasn't the falkens...it's that not everyone knows how to balance STEEL WHEELS. So they balanced it and it all went away. Rides sooo good now.

Thanks! How are you liking the wildpeak 33s?

Well it ain't because of the prices, but the brand. Lol. Mopar is up there...Jeep certified and all. Then you're talking 35s vs 33s then you got Fox shocks which is also high up. You got a great setup though. Even today it would still cost about that much for those prices. Question is are you happy or do you have regrets?

I have one fr Amazon. Lol. It's worked just fine. I just made sure to get one with good reviews

I'll move to 35s once I can get gearing. I mean if you have a Rubi you gotta go 35s!

I have bottle jacks on hand always! They're great!

Won't fit. Stock wheels on JK won't hold the wider wheels

Same boat my friend. Same boat. Lol

gotta take into account re-gearing as well...

Stock 3.21 but man I need that 4.56 BAD. I'm not having huge issues but with all the extra weight as of late, I need to upgrade.

I forget the offset off hand but the tires are 285/17s

I agree! Sooo here's the thing...in a couple of weeks I'm installing an airbag suspension that will help alleviate any additional weight. At some point I also plan to ditch the steel wheels and go alloy (these steelies aren't light) and keep the tire size. It's lighter than 35s-40's. I don't want to put too much on the axles, as you said.

OME is the best lift you can get. My friends here in NW Florida used to use them for rock crawling too and the ride is phenomenal. As far as sizing, I’m happy with 33s. Just don’t get a lift that’s too high that it makes it look funny. 2” lift was a sweet spot. Chris didn’t even have a body lift (only spacers) and 33s and was able to do black bear pass and Moab. We aren’t hardcore crawlers so we wanted comfort and not lose too much MPGs

@@BaptismOverlandthanks for the reply. where at in NW florida? If I may ask I'm over here by Tampa well close to tampa. Anyways yes I think a 2.5 or maybe 2 would work. Definitely after seeing that what I really wanted the old man emu would fit that I will be going down that path. And I want to do the install by myself but looks like I'll need to make some friends to help lmao

@@overlanddriven6346 hahaha def need friends. I mean you CAN do it yourself but better off knowing people. We are up in Pensacola. Pretty far. About 6-7 hrs

@@BaptismOverland yes that is up there lol buy I'm always heading up that way to see family in Atlanta beautiful drive. Thanks for the input. Definitely gonna reach out to arb see what they can suggest .

Awesome! My setup is a 2” lift in front and 2.25” lift in rear using Old Man Emu shocks and springs. I got JKS quick disconnects and correction bracket for front and Teraflex lower control arms in the rear. No rubbing at all. Even if I get 35s now I still won’t get rubbing

@@BaptismOverland thank you. Much appreciated

35 worse for gas mileage...33 great look with Good performence...you will love it...

I did! It should be on that same playlist a few videos after

Depends what size your stock wheels are and how much clearance you have in fender (33s should be fine). It'll look funny on a non lifted vehicle though but it can be done

Thanks for the affirmation! I considered getting gearing and going up to 35s but started asking if it would be worth it.

Depends where you go and what gears you have. That being said with 33s you really don't need to cuz I have 3:21 gears which is the weakest. I would have to regear if I go to 35s

@@BaptismOverland thanks for the quick response and the advice is spot on and appreciated! I'm getting new wheels and tires and a 2.5 lift on 33s next week. I'm sooooo excited!

I forget the off-set now. Such an old video. It's the mammoth steel wheels...I think you can see the specs online

Yup. That was one of my deciding factors too. I have aftermarket front bumper now (video coming out this week) but def would have to reinforce tailgate

The short answer is I just don't like the look of the original wheels. I also like the utility of steel wheels...classic and more able to take beatings than allow. The long answer is when possible, I don't want to use spacers anywhere. I don't even want it for lifts. For me, I want contact to contact...the springs being the height it needs to be vs using spacers to give me height. And that's the same philosophy I use for offset...I would rather the wheel be in direct contact to the suspension system vs having a spacer between them. Less suspension components, less chances for something to fail somewhere.

Hahahaha my friends and I joke about that constantly

And possible re-gearing that’ll run you more.

Awesome thanks! Great advice. I think I'm good with the jack now though because I got a bottle jack which will reach it. As far as size I got it's the 285/17 which I didn't know until they came in (overlooked it in the description) so it's not a FULL 33"

@@BaptismOverland I didn’t know they made that in a 17”, it’s not on their website. Great stuff to know.

They're actually 285s so according to my friends: "Almost 33s" LOLOL

Stock 3:21s which is why I went this route. I want to move up as there is more weight on the jeep now.

Hmmm. I wouldn't go larger than 17" wheels. I'm "considering" 295/70R17s. But honestly once I get gearing I MIGHT move to 35s

If I remember correctly it turned out to be around 31.93" around there. I wish I had known that prior because it's not a true 33". Why Extreme Terrain had them listed at that size is beyond me

I got the 70s

Yes but that won’t fit a tire that is 12” wide

Yeah stick makes it def harder without having to regear. I’ve had some slight struggles going up simple hills and I’m just at 33s

Not yet. Need gearing first lol

I did yes

@@BaptismOverland what made you go with those versus C-rated?

@@erickdiaz6152 well at the time, I didn't know yet that I would be putting as much weight on the Jeep as I have on now (RTT, armor, cargo, etc). Load wasn't something I was concerned with and also, at the time, these were on sale lol (buy 4 get 1 free type deal). So I'm running them until I have to replace in which I will reassess loads at that time and maybe even move up to 315s. It's been a smooth ride, tires are wearing fine, I've been able to hit the trails, and haven't had any issues so there's no need to rethink that decision currently.

Wow I never heard of anyone bumping down!! Now you're making me rethink bumping up! Haha

My Jeep is 35”s and thinking about down sizing to safe a bit in gas since it’s my daily but the 35”s looks sooooo good

@@1718Dance the 35s def look soooo good lol. I'm wanting to move up when I get gearing. Maybe I'll keep a set of both and just switch to 35s when going on trips and keep 33s for daily

It’ll run without one (I ran it without a lift for about a week) but it’ll look REALLY weird lol

Hahah yes and to this day I have never bought a hi lift.

Hahahahahaha honestly?! She loves overlanding! The RTT she was apprehensive at first cuz I mean...$$$ 😂...but after our first trip she was like "ok this was worth it" lol

Facts. They've done well for me.

Aww man that's a great offer! I actually have a friend of a friend doing it. Not charging me a lot at all. I figure with the money I'll save I can get some recovery boards and other misc items. Would def love to meet up one day for sure. Jeeps are great.

@@BaptismOverland I would love to meet up. I’m in Pace/Milton. Hit me up on Instagram.

@@eodjeep2137 what's your IG?

@@BaptismOverland I sent you a pm on IG.

@@eodjeep2137 Know that area. Was stationed at Whiting Field for a couple years.

I agree. Would like it slightly wider. But not too much and have the wheels sticking out past the fenders.

@@BaptismOverland having it out pass the fenders will make a aggressive look. But I think the 33x12.50 cost more than 285/70R17 though.

@@2asianguys667 agree. But I def don't like that look too much. They don't even run it like that in Australia. It also becomes more difficult to get through tighter spots

See that’s the problem…that’s when people fall into that trap that they have to have 35s because of reasoning like this. Optimal is subjective to how you want to balance MPG, weight you want to add, and the gearing you have. I drive a manual…which means optimal for me is 33s until I can regear. Will I move up to 35s eventually? Yes, when I can get 4.1 gears. Appreciate the input but we gotta stop dealing with absolutes (TJ = 33s, JK = 35s, upgrade to 4:88 gears, etc). Do some research and balance your ride accordingly to your specific needs. How it “looks” on a “big rig” is not the right way to build. Find your sweet spot my friend.

@@BaptismOverland regearing will adjust the power loss, and alleviate strain put on your powertrain, and who buys a "jeep" for mpg anyway? That's what a Prius is for. And as you've pointed out, you're going to regear in the future, and then upgrade to 35s, why do that procedure twice? You're actually spending more money, and that defeats your whole point of budgeting. "Buy once, cry once" if you can't afford it, wait till you can. And as for rim choice, well countering your argument since steelies are heavier then aluminum it effects your mpg in the long run. And usually steelies are popular to beat on rocks offroad cuz they can be bent back, which is something your video says your not going to do... so wouldn't aluminum be better for your application as well ;) ? I'm a jeep enthusiasts, perhaps you should research some forums, there is some great members like "mrblaine" who could help.

@@ryansremark6983 You're right, we don't get a jeep for MPG but you still want to conserve as much of it as you CAN. I'm not looking to get 25mpg here but if I could at least stay relatively in the 16s where I'm at now vs huge reductions with all the other added weight, then why not? That's not a solid argument. NO MATTER WHAT RIG YOU GET, WEIGHT SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED. I'm sure you know this. Bull bars, roof rack, cargo, RTT, ALL OF IT must be accounted for. In my case, I wanted the steel wheels for durability (it can be bent back into shape in a pinch if damaged vs alloy) and so with that extra weight, then I go lighter with the tires. NOW for your second point...you said "if you're going to do that anyway you're doing it twice." I'm sorry- do you only get one set of tires your whole life?? It's like a haircut- get a mohawk if you wanna try it- it'll grow back. I will eventually get new tires- it's inevitable. And by the time I'll need new tires, I won't be needing a new set of wheels. And by then, I do the overhaul...gearing and 35s. But when I got these, I didn't have funding for gearing yet and I wanted to see how 33s will do. Like I said, I appreciate the commentary...truly. It's good to get into discussions like this. But also take heed in what people say also...if it makes you happy, do it. Stop following what everyone says you should do. I'm not driving around going "Oh but what will Ryan say if these tires look too small for my rig?? Oh no!!"

Buy once cry once doesn't apply for things you have to eventually replace. That's why I bought the bull bar I wanted even if it costs more than most. It's why I got the RTT I wanted. These things are permanent. TIRES ARE NOT. You'll cry over and over every time you gotta get new ones. As an enthusiast, I honestly would think you woulda saw that by now

I have a ton EXCEPT for an impact wrench. I’ve already hinted to my wife this holiday haha

Right. I set the budget after deciding on 33s and seeing what average prices were on lift tires and wheels.

😂 hell no. I really hate plastidip. I use it only to cover up stuff temporarily but after trails and such they get beat up so badly.