Why I converted from Atheism to Christianity (via Richard Dawkins)

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2 жыл бұрын

Peter Byrom shares his story of becoming an atheist through the influence of New Atheism and Richard Dawkins. He tells Justin how this led him to encounter the rational case for God through William Lane Craig and Unbelievable? as part of a journey to embracing Christianity.
Videos and resources mentioned by Peter:
William Lane Craig explaining why Dawkins' central argument against God fails:
• Who Designed The Desig...
William Lane Craig's full response to The God Delusion, from the 2011 Reasonable Faith UK Tour: • William Lane Craig: Is...
"The Case For Christian Theism" documentary of the 2011 Reasonable Faith UK Tour:
• The Case for Christian...
William Lane Craig's website: www.reasonablefaith.org/
Interview Peter gave to Solas in 2019 on his conversion journey:
www.solas-cpc.org/disillusion...
The Unbelievable? episode where Justin reviewed the “Is Atheism the New Fundamentalism?” debate: www.premierchristianradio.com...
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@PremierUnbelievable
@PremierUnbelievable 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you all enjoy this. If you want more from the show subscribe to our newsletter www.premier.org.uk/resource/unbelievable/ For those wanting more detail about the arguments and evidence that Peter found persuasive, we recommend checking out the recently made documentary "The Case for Christian Theism": kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKmRbLqCp9ilgpc.html Also, William Lane Craig's own website: www.reasonablefaith.org "Disillusioned with Dawkins" interview Peter gave to Solas in 2019: www.solas-cpc.org/disillusioned-with-dawkins-my-journey-from-atheism-to-christianity-peter-byrom/
@tatjanataylor5666
@tatjanataylor5666 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testimony blessings in abundance 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@deeschoe1245
@deeschoe1245 2 жыл бұрын
Just typical garbage by death cult conmen. Sad really!
@kleenex3000
@kleenex3000 2 жыл бұрын
I commend you for leaving the commentary section open. As a born-again ATheist, my own counter-apologetics against the assertion of Gods, it founds on the assertion of NOMINALISM. Kind regards from GERMANY
@gavinhurlimann2910
@gavinhurlimann2910 2 жыл бұрын
@@kleenex3000 Your belief is called "Knowledge neglect leading to illusory truth" by clinical psychologists. It's not uncommon to see this on the journey to nihilism. Read more.
@kleenex3000
@kleenex3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@gavinhurlimann2910 knowledge, logic... iow the imaginary, it cannot be used, appreciated, denied, neglected... why is that? - What do you and I FACTUALLY use, appreciate or reject, accept or deny?
@stuartforrest7610
@stuartforrest7610 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing as I thought Richard Dawkins only led me to Jesus, I had no interest in God and watching Dawkins try and debate Prof John Lennox I realised how angry Dawkins was and how he had no point except that “ there is no God” while prof Lennox was coming out with a lot of arguments for God, after that I slowly started my journey to Christ… Thankyou so much Richard Dawkins for leading me out the darkness to Jesus.🙏🙏
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o Жыл бұрын
John Lennox is amazing, an incredibly erudite and eloquent gentleman.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 Жыл бұрын
I think you will find that Dawkins is angry at he damage belief in imaginary beings has done and continues to cause the world. Crusades, holy wars, inquisitions, forced conversions of indigenous peoples, crashing planes into towers, denigration of people for their sexuality ect ect all done specifically for religious reasons. By people striving to attain their subjective Gods "moral perfection" and citing the moral imperfection of the victims as justification 🤮🤮🤮 You think Lennox has presented EVIDENCE of a sufficient quality to justify belief in a talking snake, tribes of giants, witches, magic, virgin births, zombies, Angel's ect all overseen by an invisible being that thinks it moral to *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* Please present the best evidence that YOU think sufficient to justify the extrodinary biblical claims ( hint, science can't explain X or I don't understand Y does NOT constitute EVIDENCE )
@stuartforrest7610
@stuartforrest7610 Жыл бұрын
@@trumpbellend6717 was it God who committed all these atrocities or was it man?
@Aphex217Twin
@Aphex217Twin Жыл бұрын
Was it God who created Mankind with an evil nature, or was it Mankind who created itself with an evil nature?
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 Жыл бұрын
@@Aphex217Twin it was GOD that created *EVIL* in the first place. 👇👇👇👇 Isaiah 45:7 7 *"I form the light, and create darkness I make peace, and create EVIL I the Lord do all these THINGS"*
@jonathanskeet5076
@jonathanskeet5076 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Germany through the entire 90s and so was only vaguely aware of Dawkins, some Christian friends of mine in the UK would tell me some things about him and it all seemed a bit scary. Then I returned to the UK in the mid noughties and heard an interview with Dawkins on the radio. I remember thinking "Is this really THE Richard Dawkins that everyone has been so upset about"? The arguments he was putting forward in the interview were almost childish really, definitely an "Emperor has no clothes on" moment. I think he only got away with it for so long because so many people were desperate to believe him.
@Vikingshop
@Vikingshop Жыл бұрын
Well spoken @jonathanskeet!
@cherkovision
@cherkovision Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the thinking at that time had a lot to do with 9/11. The thinking went: "these terrorists wouldn't be so dangerous without their religion. Let's put our religion down so that maybe they'll put their religion down."
@rizdekd3912
@rizdekd3912 Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm lucky to have never really paid much attention to Dawkins or any other of the supposedly well known atheists. My atheism seems well in tact. I've never read an atheist book at all. I've only ever read books that are pro theism such as by Swineburn, Marshall and Rauser...oh, and the Bible.
@esq8
@esq8 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Skeet It's his British accent that gives one the faux impression of intellect and sharpened by a snide condescension in his voice. When I heard his monkey and the typewriter analogy, I realized we were simply dealing with an angry man.
@jonathanskeet5076
@jonathanskeet5076 Жыл бұрын
@@esq8 Yes… I always think he sounds like a wasp stuck inside an empty beer can.
@ChristianMotivationMedia
@ChristianMotivationMedia 2 жыл бұрын
“Those who are wise shall shine Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness Like the stars forever and ever.”Daniel 12:3
@Paine137
@Paine137 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize brainwashing is virtuous. How enlightening.
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paine137 How are you defining brainwashing?
@Paine137
@Paine137 2 жыл бұрын
@@EssenceofPureFlavor Corrupting the minds of children before they can think critically for themselves as adults, or being an adult who is incapable of making meaning for oneself and so relies on plagiarized religious fictions to dictate how to live: multiplied by billions of people over numerous generations.
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paine137 Ahh. In that case, it isn't brainwashing, anymore than teaching anything else.
@IIrandhandleII
@IIrandhandleII 2 жыл бұрын
Except stars don't shine forever..... Bible science
@jamalkhan3708
@jamalkhan3708 2 жыл бұрын
Christianity is the only true religion, ex Muslim here from Pakistan and I am converted from Islam to Christianity. I saw so many hatred comments against Christianity but time is coming when every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
@cmhardin37
@cmhardin37 2 жыл бұрын
@Supernintendo Chalmers they can't
@davidgraham2673
@davidgraham2673 2 жыл бұрын
Jamal Khan, Congratulations Brother! You now understand why the news is so good.
@bobskane4353
@bobskane4353 2 жыл бұрын
How do you explain that Islam is growing faster than Christianity?
@michaelchosen8755
@michaelchosen8755 2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother.
@davebonar1
@davebonar1 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobskane4353 Why ? Everyone has a free will and to do what they want. It doesn't bother me , if you think that their religion is something you can believe in then go for it. Are you an adult or a why child ?
@WhatAHorribleNight
@WhatAHorribleNight Жыл бұрын
Same, more or less. I thought I might be an atheist at one point. A friend recommended I read some Hitchens and Dawkins. I read "God is Not Great" and "The Selfish Gene" - and I realized that I thought both men were full of nonsense. It was then that I understood: I wanted to be atheist simply so I could justify doing whatever I wanted to myself, not because I actually thought there was no God. So in a way, Hitchens and Dawkins were responsible for reconnecting me with my faith. 😅
@david77james
@david77james Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Also, you may have sold yourself short, since your basic morality level included your demand on yourself to FIRST be honest about deciding the matter, as you were, REGARDLESS of which decision would be easier to live with in the short term. Honesty with one's self is very difficult to retain, especially when the hormones are raging inside one's body. I for one am so happy that you were honest in your approach to your decision. .
@Dogstar78
@Dogstar78 Жыл бұрын
Years ago my church was packed on the night they showed a video of William Lane Craig debating Dawkins. Craig put Dawkins under the table. (,but not in a mean way). It would be good for Christians to pray for Dawkins because it would be wonderful for him to come to a saving knowledge of the Truth about God who created him and doesn't mind when people question His existance because whatever the reason, when you seek Him, you find Him.
@jonathanskeet5076
@jonathanskeet5076 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t think there had been a WLC debate with Dawkins. Is there a link you could put up, I’d be very interested to see it.
@david77james
@david77james Жыл бұрын
The bible says that all know that God exists, but not all of them want to fellowship with Him for eternity. This whole system was made for those who WANT SO MUCH to live with Jesus Christ, in His magnificent kingdom for eternity. Still, we feel for the Dawkins' of the world, who hate God and reject fellowship with Him. Paul talks about this in Romans and other places, regarding election of the saints. It sounds cruel in ways, but it's really justice of God that condemns unrighteousness, and rewards those who have been IMPUTED with the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ, AND we have eternal life added to that! .
@jonathanskeet5076
@jonathanskeet5076 Жыл бұрын
@@david77james Would you say that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, and for all people? Would you say that God wants everyone to come to a knowledge of the truth?
@davidjames3359
@davidjames3359 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanskeet5076 - Q#1) Absolutely yes. Of course, that is hardly the only thing that Jesus said, concerning God's word on His plan for salvation & eternal life for human- kind. God's plan of salvation involves God's reaching out to us with His OFFER of eternal life & forgiveness of sins. God's offer, like any offer, requires a response from whosoever seeks the benefits of His provision, as what you state in Q#1. More on the subject of God's provision for humankind, which includes the inseparable need for positive human response to His offer, as found in John 3:15-19. Q#2) Absolutely yes, as stated in Scripture. Of course, there are basic truths, which involve learning the exclusive manner of how ALL sinners can be saved, by receiving forgiveness for their sins & eternal life, through faith alone in Jesus Christ's provision of same, which is the everlasting, permanent Grace Gift of God. Only then, as a baby believer, can one begin to seek the "deep things (advanced knowledge of truth) of God", which involves a lifetime of study, which results in good works, but which works relate to eternal reward, & NOT salvation @ the believer's judgement -1Cor. 3:11-15). .
@jonathanskeet5076
@jonathanskeet5076 Жыл бұрын
@@davidjames3359 That's good... so you're evidently not a Calvinist or Reformed Christian then, it just sounded a little bit like that from your original response.
@historian9484
@historian9484 Жыл бұрын
If being an atheist looks so angry like Dawkins,Christopher Hitchens,Bennett and depressed like Sam Harris,I don’t want it
@DartNoobo
@DartNoobo 11 ай бұрын
Dawkins seems like annoyed person at worst. I actually came to respect the man after I looked into his other works and beliefs. He is still dead wrong about God, ofc.
@cassandra5516
@cassandra5516 Жыл бұрын
Reading 'The God Delusion' is what led me out of atheism and catapulted me into faith. When I finished the book I thought to myself if this is atheism, if this is a representation of how I should be thinking then I want absolutely nothing to do with it. Little did I know how painful and exhausting that journey could be but man it was worth it to get away from that hell.
@owlnyc666
@owlnyc666 Жыл бұрын
I had a similar experience when I read the Bible. After I read it I came to the conclusion I did not want to have anything to do with it.
@cassandra5516
@cassandra5516 Жыл бұрын
@@owlnyc666 at least you read it. Most atheists don't bother to read it before dishing out criticism.
@owlnyc666
@owlnyc666 Жыл бұрын
@@cassandra5516 I could also make the claim that most Christians have not read the entire Bible before accepting it. I would also add that I read the Quran and I am not a Muslim. I read the Communist Manifesto and I was not convinced to be a Communist. I have heard Christians criticize both Communism and Islam and I am skeptical that they read the texts.
@cassandra5516
@cassandra5516 Жыл бұрын
@@owlnyc666 ok.. congratulations on all your reading lol
@owlnyc666
@owlnyc666 Жыл бұрын
@@cassandra5516 I have been told that most Christians have not read the entire Bible. And even fewer have read the Quran.
@Lordpraisethe
@Lordpraisethe 2 жыл бұрын
This was super interesting
@diannhall7564
@diannhall7564 2 жыл бұрын
I remember "stopping and starting again" too. Thank you both this discussion.
@devilsadvocate701
@devilsadvocate701 2 жыл бұрын
Why were you an Atheist, in the first place?
@deVeresd.Kfz.1515
@deVeresd.Kfz.1515 2 жыл бұрын
Now, atheists will call him an apostate of atheism
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 2 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt that atheism is a religion, complete with churches, a creation story (the big bang and evolution,) a holy spirit (natural selection,) and prophets (Charles Darwin, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, etc.). Dan
@stefanheinzmann7319
@stefanheinzmann7319 2 жыл бұрын
@@BibleResearchTools Hell is missing. That's one hell of a difference (pardon the pun). It is evidence-based, so if you insist on calling that a religion, it still is an evidence-based religion. I'm fine with that. But it makes the conversion of Peter Byrom even less plausible.
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan Heinzmann wrote, "Hell is missing. That's one hell of a difference (pardon the pun)." I suppose there is enough hell in being an atheist, and having no hope. Stefan wrote, "It is evidence-based, so if you insist on calling that a religion, it still is an evidence-based religion. I'm fine with that." There is no verifiable evidence for atheism, or for evolution. Rather, all scientific evidence points to a supernatural creator. Stefan wrote, "But it makes the conversion of Peter Byrom even less plausible." LOL! It proves he is not easily brainwashed and knows how to think. Apparently his teachers failed to teach him what to think, like they do with most of their captive audiences. Dan
@stefanheinzmann7319
@stefanheinzmann7319 2 жыл бұрын
@@BibleResearchTools You don't believe that this piffle is going to convince anybody, do you? I know quite a lot of atheists, and if they all had no hope, I would have noticed. I guess you refer to one specific hope: That of an afterlife. We can all do just fine without that, particularly since there's no hell, either. On the contrary, we think that having to hope for an afterlife is a quite miserable state of affairs. Regarding evidence, I think you are just deliberately ignorant. I guess I can't do anything about that.
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan Heinzmann wrote, "You don't believe that this piffle is going to convince anybody, do you?" I am not expecting to convince everyone. Stefan wrote, "I know quite a lot of atheists, and if they all had no hope, I would have noticed." What is their hope? Becoming fertilizer? I guess in a bizarre sort of way one could categorize that as "hope." Stefan wrote, "I guess you refer to one specific hope: That of an afterlife. We can all do just fine without that, particularly since there's no hell, either." You hope there is no hell. Even Richard Dawkins and Steven Weinberg are fair-weather atheists when it comes to the matter of eternal judgment. Stefan wrote, "On the contrary, we think that having to hope for an afterlife is a quite miserable state of affairs." Atheists do seem to be rather miserable, vengeful, power-hungry people, whose sole purpose in life is to proselytize the world and teach as many people as possible to become as miserable as they are. Not surprisingly, 2000 years ago the Bible predicted that would happen. Stefan wrote, "Regarding evidence, I think you are just deliberately ignorant. I guess I can't do anything about that." You have been brainwashed, and I guess I cannot do anything about that. Dan
@chouleanghak5085
@chouleanghak5085 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Welcome to the family of great joy.
@devilsadvocate701
@devilsadvocate701 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, because your belief system is so joyful right? Let's hear your cherry picked reasons...
@conandeckard3264
@conandeckard3264 2 жыл бұрын
@@devilsadvocate701 honestly no need to be jelly about the joy, it’s free for you too
@devilsadvocate701
@devilsadvocate701 2 жыл бұрын
@@conandeckard3264 I'm joyful... without god. So there.
@conandeckard3264
@conandeckard3264 2 жыл бұрын
@@devilsadvocate701 well….certainly doesn’t ooze out of your comments 👌😅 enjoy that joy 😎
@chouleanghak5085
@chouleanghak5085 2 жыл бұрын
@@devilsadvocate701 There is no way I can bend your freewill. But remember this fact; all of us will die someday. And on that very day, as soon as the heart stops beating, the spirit of the dead will immediately leave the body and it will encounter a new reality - a very unfamiliar world. Whatever one's belief may be, it will certainly NOT change the truth whatever that truth may be. The strange encounter will come, and it is inescapable as our demise is also inescapable.
@cherkovision
@cherkovision Жыл бұрын
I remember that Dawkins response! Ugh, he's "too busy" debating popes to debate someone who might actually beat him.
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
True. The point is, popes would be easy pickings, as they are not used to debates etc. Getting a debate with apolegetic christian debaters may end up with you getting knocked out of the whole game. So it is not as much "i am busy"... it is more I am afraid that I would lose face.
@heloisaheng3189
@heloisaheng3189 Жыл бұрын
I guess the “I’m busy” caused a lot of disappointment among atheists, I was searching for his debate with William also, thank God he doesn’t dare
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 Жыл бұрын
Debates don't prove anything. There are nothing more than entertainment.
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223 then why debate popes... Debates if you look at them clearly, can show you quite quickly which side has got unanswered questions, and who id evading questions.
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 Жыл бұрын
@Nico Vd Westhuizen debates are not between sides, they are between individuals. Both sides have unanswered questions. Debate is not the correct method to answer empirical questions
@pavld335
@pavld335 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this could be one of the strangest things I've ever seen. Why is this guys conversion so focused on Richard Dawkins?
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 2 жыл бұрын
I am no psychologist… but it seems that he got angry because Atheism (or in this case the supposedly most famous Atheist of that time) couldn’t give him the satisfying answers to the questions that plagued him during his phase of doubt. It’s probably better when he stays a Christian… the existential Angst is too much for many people who didn’t learn how to deal with it.😅
@joshua_wherley
@joshua_wherley 2 жыл бұрын
That's what the video is about, his induction, as it were, into an atheist worldview before deciding that it doesn't answer the deep-seated questions that many of us have.
@pavld335
@pavld335 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshua_wherley atheism only answers one question: do you believe in god? - that's it.
@joshua_wherley
@joshua_wherley 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavld335 precisely. It offers nothing else, just the worldview of "I believe in no god(s)." Hard to win people over when other big questions like the justification of objective morality, meaning of life, question of evil/suffering, etc. are a matter of personal opinion and ultimately unanswered in any definitive way.
@pavld335
@pavld335 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshua_wherley just because your "worldview" has answers, doesn't mean the answers are right.
@bryanoldenburg9870
@bryanoldenburg9870 Жыл бұрын
Funny how Dawkins said WLC's only claim to fame was being a professional debater, when Bill is, in fact, a world-renown philosopher and theologian (with an extensive knowledge of physics as well). He could nicely take over with Richard, where John Lennox left off.
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 Жыл бұрын
World renowned? Nope
@norbertjendruschj9121
@norbertjendruschj9121 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen WLC debating Sean Carroll about cosmology? WLC has picked up some talking points from physics which fit into his worldview but he has no real understanding of the matter. And a nonchristian university would sack him as a teacher of philosophy for incompetence.
@magicmark3309
@magicmark3309 5 ай бұрын
I feel like this title is really misleading…he was a young Christian, started questioning his faith when he was introduced to skeptics and the “new atheists”, which introduced him to Christian apologists and regained his faith. All within the span of his time at university. Even though you could stretch it to technically be the “truth”, I think manny from both sides of the isle would say that is completely normal for most people brought up religious. The big difference is that he went right back into Christianity and became heavily involved in apologetics.
@piterpraker3399
@piterpraker3399 5 ай бұрын
What's completely normal unfortunately, is for a "cultural christian" to ditch their beliefs at the nearest moment that it becomes convenient to do so - and that generally means through education. Frustratingly, but also very telling, is that they just need a passable theory of reasoning. Intense scrutiny is not the goal, merely distance from God. Christianity is not in our blood. As fallen creatures, God's message is alien to us; with this in mind, the title is fairly accurate.
@buckjones4901
@buckjones4901 5 ай бұрын
Not really, almost the entire education system is run and controlled by atheistic far Left. Brainwashing kids into a socialist atheistic mindset. This is a designed plan and kids are most venerable.
@Indorm
@Indorm 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Unbelievable and WilliamLane Craig have touched more lives than you will ever know.
@holdontoyourwig
@holdontoyourwig 2 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant.
@cpt.kimintuitiondemon
@cpt.kimintuitiondemon 2 жыл бұрын
Both in bringing people to godbelief, and pushing (doubting) people away from theïsm ?
@lynkahaar9549
@lynkahaar9549 10 ай бұрын
A great interview with Peter. Thank you for sharing your journey.
@clarekuehn4372
@clarekuehn4372 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, both. Gloria in excelsis Deo 😍
@kennethmeeker6369
@kennethmeeker6369 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely takes a lot of faith to believe nothing created everything
@kleenex3000
@kleenex3000 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. the Christian god as well as any other being-asserted god, such as YHWH (without Christ!) and Allah, where Christ is reduced to a Profit - (peas be upon him), before the Profit (Mahommet, more peas on him) each is literally NO-thing.
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
@@kleenex3000 Let me see.... u are not an atheist...🤣🤣
@kleenex3000
@kleenex3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@trinitymatrix9719 I am a born-again ATheist and a staunch NOMINALIST, dear friend.
@ScotsThinker
@ScotsThinker 2 жыл бұрын
*Y U P*
@G_Ozare
@G_Ozare Жыл бұрын
The core message of Jesus Christ & the 1st Century Apostles (Paul, Timothy, John, Peter,etc) : Love God with all your heart, Love your neighbor as yourself, Pray for your enemies, Love conquers all. “What can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.-Romans 1:18-23
@manchestermission909
@manchestermission909 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely bloke this peter.. he reminded me of my college years too and love for ppl wherever they're coming from, thanks 👍
@Apriluser
@Apriluser 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous conversation!
@doesnotexist305
@doesnotexist305 Жыл бұрын
In a weird sort of way the Four Horsemen of New Atheism led me to Christ as well. I had only a brief fling with Christianity when I was about 13 or 14 because I got caught shoplifting and felt immensely guilty. So for a few months I read the Bible and then grow out of it. By it was about halfway through high school that I came across Hitchens and Dawkins and then Harris and Dennett. They’re the ones who got me into religion and I was a staunch atheist for so long because of them. Particularly Hitchens. Without them I wouldn’t have cared for this topic at all and I wouldn’t have found guys like Nabeel Qureshi, James White, Michael Brown, Jeff Durbin, John MacArthur and critically Jordan Peterson and Bishop Robert Barron. Also Trent Horn, Matt Fradd and others. Particularly the Catholics. They’re the ones who brought me home to Catholicism. But I must give credit to the Protestants I named too. They gave me a taste of the truth.
@navarrodragon25
@navarrodragon25 Жыл бұрын
how did you make it to catholicism in light of it's heresies according to the names like james white, John Mcarthur, Jeff Durbin etc ??
@doesnotexist305
@doesnotexist305 Жыл бұрын
@@navarrodragon25 simple. Because it is not Catholicism that is heretical, it is Protestantism. I appreciate White, MacArthur and Durbin for helping me come over to Christianity but I pray for them that they accept the fullness of truth that is the Catholic Church.
@emmanuel8310
@emmanuel8310 Жыл бұрын
@@doesnotexist305 😂🤣 What is heretic about protestantism though, I really want to hear what you'll say. 😁
@dulls8475
@dulls8475 Жыл бұрын
@@emmanuel8310 I am looking forward to his answer as well....
@emmanuel8310
@emmanuel8310 Жыл бұрын
@@dulls8475 Right. Thank you. I'm glad there are more people looking forward to his answer.
@onetruthoneway7369
@onetruthoneway7369 2 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how these important discussions receive merely 10s of thousands of views, whereas watching Gordan Ramsey eat chicken wings receives 100s of millions.
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 2 жыл бұрын
Well I watched this once but I watched Gordon a million times. :p
@rhrrtt
@rhrrtt 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, it's NOT an important discussion. My assumption is that the Christian God doesn't exist. If he does exist he can go f----- himself!
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhrrtt What is it that draws you into the discussion if it's not important? I'm sorry for your pain. If you want to talk about how you feel hurt by God or Christians then you can.
@onetruthoneway7369
@onetruthoneway7369 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhrrtt What about God makes you so hateful toward Him?
@rhrrtt
@rhrrtt 2 жыл бұрын
@@onetruthoneway7369 Child cancer, natural disasters, animals that eat each other alive, God's sheer nastiness in the Old Testament, God punishing others for what Adam & Eve did, Hell (i.e. infinite punishment for finite sin), the unfair disadvantage for people born into a different religion, ... the list goes on. Any all-powerful God who would create such a world (when presented with an infinite choice of other possiblities) has to be a monster.
@petersalazar1790
@petersalazar1790 2 жыл бұрын
Watching from India on Christmas Day too .Thank you Justin !
@martyduke3139
@martyduke3139 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sandra, Peter & Justin & my Friend who just called me!
@highlightoftheday7058
@highlightoftheday7058 Жыл бұрын
Two books. The God delusion and the Bible. Why would any one want to read a book that offers nothing? Then you have the other book. That has stood the test of time. Changed many lives for the better. If I had the inclination to look I could come up with many more. But a book that denies the Bible but offers nothing positive in it's place.
@thelionsshare6668
@thelionsshare6668 Жыл бұрын
I read the God Delusion because I had heard that Dawkins was the top atheist, and I like looking for new arguments on the other side. He offered nothing new--it's just a rehash of old atheist tropes.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 Жыл бұрын
@@thelionsshare6668 Hmm, read Hitchens, Phillip Pullman, but especially Marcus Brigstocke, instead. Marcus is much more humane about it all. Certainly more, than 1 Kings 14:12, 1 Kings 20:37, and 2 Samuel 24, ever were! Hitchens is savage, often, but darkly funny, and points out much of the hypocrisy. Pullman wrote about how potentially simpler messages of Jesus got buried under 'doctrine' (but even the starting point wasn't super, arguably - see verses above!) And Brigstocke gets into his feelings on both sides of the debate, with remarkable candor and humour. Including his wish for there to be, more.
@neddiepotter2869
@neddiepotter2869 Жыл бұрын
I now understand why I felt such distaste for Dawkins from the first time I heard him speak. I am just now coming back to Yeshua..and so my thoughts on Dawkins are disrelated to my being a Christian. I just recall thinking "oh this man is empty and leading people into the void..like a kind of anti-Christ...he has zero evidence to the contrary nor will he. He has a different agenda, and is best left to the judgement of Yeshua....leading people into the void of darkness? That's quite evident in his busy work turning as many away from Christ as possible? I pray for all of those who listen to him as an "expert" ...
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Жыл бұрын
I think Richard Dawkins "saved" more people than a believe in an imaginary sky God ever has! They got their rational mind back!
@aclark903
@aclark903 Жыл бұрын
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Atheists are irrational. They believe there is no God.
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Жыл бұрын
@@aclark903 Thats not what they believe at all Mr. Clark Sir. They just believe there is not sufficient evidence for a "God". Big difference. They are not ruling out that there could be a "God". Just that a "Gods" existence has never been proved. You need to get your nose out of that old book and learn about what others believe my man! Take care
@aclark903
@aclark903 Жыл бұрын
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Nope, that's agnosticism. Get a clue.
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 Жыл бұрын
@@aclark903 no atheism just neans: not a theist.
@jakeroberts6274
@jakeroberts6274 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing interview. Thanks so much.
@MadderMel
@MadderMel Жыл бұрын
When I first started to experience social media I at first listened to and quite liked the New Atheists , it wasn't long before it dawned on me how arrogant , smug , conceited , condescending and even perhaps wrong they were , Dawkins for my money is one of the worst !
@etchalaco9971
@etchalaco9971 Жыл бұрын
irrelevant
@etchalaco9971
@etchalaco9971 Жыл бұрын
@@columbmurray even if it is arrogance, it is irrelevant to their argument. You can be arrogant and be right, you can be humble and be wrong. Logic does not care about those things.
@Imagine_sisyphus_happy
@Imagine_sisyphus_happy Жыл бұрын
@@columbmurray like what evidence? The virgin birth ? 😂 the noah’s ark? What evidence?
@Hello-pz6hb
@Hello-pz6hb Жыл бұрын
It's the stench of chauvinism driven by sheer bigotry. Regardless of which side you're on, epistemic humility is key.
@lcunningham1776
@lcunningham1776 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Blessed Christmas!
@Erik_Danley
@Erik_Danley 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve also had quite the journey in terms of faith. I find it so incredibly interesting that a common thing, it seems, for unbelievers, is they *want* to believe Christianity is false. And then when you read the Bible, this human sentiment is right there in the scripture. There are numerous passages, one being Romans 3:10-12
@infamouscrusader2183
@infamouscrusader2183 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. When I decided to reject atheism (when I was an Agnostic) I came from it realizing that people believe what they WANT to believe, not necessarily what is true. It seems that unbelievers would rather that any religion is correct but Christianity which lead me to more questioning. As of now, been born again ever since. Amen.
@Nimish204
@Nimish204 Жыл бұрын
That passage doesn't prove anything
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 Жыл бұрын
@@Nimish204 That is your opinion.
@rizdekd3912
@rizdekd3912 Жыл бұрын
@@infamouscrusader2183 Do you want to believe you are born again? It would seem your view that 'people believe what they want to believe' undercuts all beliefs...not just those other people who don't believe what you believe.
@zachio69
@zachio69 Жыл бұрын
"The God Delusion" is a book written by Richard Dawkins that talks about religion and belief in God. Dawkins believes that religion can sometimes stop people from thinking logically and critically. He thinks that some religious beliefs go against science and can make people close-minded and unwilling to consider other ideas. However, not everyone agrees with this point of view. Some people think that religion can be a positive thing and can help people have a sense of purpose and community. The effects of religion on thinking are a subject of debate, and different people have different opinions.
@Fubizz12345
@Fubizz12345 Жыл бұрын
Richard Dawkins in interview with “Cosmic Skeptic” admitted that “He has never studied nor read the Bible nor plans to because it’s false and a waste of time.” How can something be false and therefore you refuse to learn anything about it to determine if it is false, that’s circular reasoning. That doesn’t sound like someone qualified to write a book about God not being logical. If you write a book without even studying the subject you are claiming to be false. That sounds very illogical. Christopher Hitchens is famous for saying “you nor I are physicists so you nor I are not qualified to talk on this subject nor give opinion.” By this logic Hitchens is not qualified to debate Christians because he doesn’t hold a degree in Christian theology, of course that’s absurd. He has every right to debate, because you can defer to authorities who have studied. But he can’t have it both ways, he can’t avoid science saying he doesn’t hold a degree so refuses to talk on it. But equally doesn’t hold a degree on what he is talking about. (Out of all of the new atheists or four horseman they hold 0 degrees in Christian theology or any Christian degree of any kind. So by their own logic they shouldn’t be writing these books.)
@zachio69
@zachio69 Жыл бұрын
@@Fubizz12345 It is true that Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, along with other "New Atheists," do not hold degrees in Christian theology. However, this does not mean they are not qualified to write about the topic. The four horsemen, as they are sometimes called, are known for their critical views on religion and their arguments are based on philosophy, science, and critical thinking. It is also true that circular reasoning is not a sound argumentative technique. However, it is important to note that one person's refusal to study or read a certain text does not necessarily mean they are using circular reasoning. In the case of Dawkins, he has written many books and articles on religion, and his arguments are based on scientific evidence and reasoning. Ultimately, whether or not someone is qualified to write about a certain topic is a matter of interpretation. However, it is always important to consider the sources and evidence used in any argument and to be critical of any circular reasoning.
@Imagine_sisyphus_happy
@Imagine_sisyphus_happy Жыл бұрын
Thank you chatGPT
@zachio69
@zachio69 Жыл бұрын
@@Imagine_sisyphus_happy your welcome. Let me know if you have any other questions I'm here to help.
@Imagine_sisyphus_happy
@Imagine_sisyphus_happy Жыл бұрын
@@zachio69 how make a hydrogen bomb🗿
@Maji777111
@Maji777111 2 жыл бұрын
The price of being wrong for a atheist is risk of eternal suffering as a captive of devil because of sin, but price of a Christian being wrong is nothing but few years of life devoted to righteous cause. Which has the greater risk and in wisdom is better to put faith in and believe, for the Lord exists and now gives ye this message. Pride is the fall of many, for they say they know but do they, many seek to believe to feel comfortable in sin, than face the discomfort of knowing the truth.
@GuitarDog_atx
@GuitarDog_atx 2 жыл бұрын
"The price of xtians being wrong is eternal suffering" -Muslims Thanks for pointing out why this theoloogy is disgusting and why I left it. You are fine with eternal torture for the only "sin" of not pleasing a petty, insecure and yet still inmipotent deity. This is sick. An infinite punishment for a finite 'crime'
@LAdavidthompson
@LAdavidthompson Жыл бұрын
@@GuitarDog_atx words like “disgusting” and “sick” don’t get used enough to describe just how putrid and evil Christianity is and how totally deranged Christians are for believing such epic garbage. The fact that apologists are given any respect is mind blowing.
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 Жыл бұрын
@@LAdavidthompson Wow. Are you going to sputter such hateful, blasphemous garbage on Judgment Day? Answer: nope.
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 Жыл бұрын
@@GuitarDog_atx You are spiritually blind and don't even realize it. God is Infinitely Holy, and every time you utter your horrific and blasphemous garbage, you are heaping more judgment on your head.
@LAdavidthompson
@LAdavidthompson Жыл бұрын
@@justin10292000 You're happy to live in fear of a god you can't even prove exists. Absolutely pitiful.
@alger9003
@alger9003 2 жыл бұрын
Richard Dawkins and the new atheists have in fact led me to strengthen my faith in Christ, as I started looking for arguments against the nonsense spread by these atheists and finding excellent reasonable evidence for believing and trusting Jesus Christ.
@konyvnyelv.
@konyvnyelv. 2 жыл бұрын
Gehenna is just a valley near Jerusalem where dead corpses were laid to burn, not a metaphysical hell. Isaiah 7 never predicted virgin birth but speaks of an already pregnant girl, Abiah wife of king Ahaz. Original sin was invented by Paul to justify Christianity but Adam and Eve were put out of eden for prevention not punishment. Read the passage in Genesis and compare Christian doctrine to Jewish exegesis
@gladishilton9919
@gladishilton9919 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell us what evidence you found against the "nonsense spread by these Atheists". The fundamental position of Atheism is that Theists have not met their burden of proof for their god - which is to say that you don't have verifiable evidence that exclusively leads to the one conclusion that God exists. On this issue Atheists are quite obviously correct. To think you have debunked the Atheist position implies you think you have verifiable evidence that exclusively leads to the one conclusion that god exists. Would love to hear it.
@olgakarpushina492
@olgakarpushina492 2 жыл бұрын
@@gladishilton9919 well, the claim that there is no God is an extraordinary one, requiring, by your own standards, extraordinary proof. 😁 So, bring it on. What extraordinary proof of God's nonexistence do you have? Even some ordinary one will do, actually.
@mauromacave2662
@mauromacave2662 2 жыл бұрын
@@olgakarpushina492 You can't prove the non-existence of something, lady.
@jimurban5367
@jimurban5367 2 жыл бұрын
@@olgakarpushina492 Prove that unicorns and leprechauns don’t exist; if you don’t do that, then it must be reasonable to assume they exist…. By this epistemology, you could be convinced of any number of things without evidence.
@chriper77
@chriper77 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this on Christmas day here in Australia. What a nice Christmas present to to have such an insightful and thoughtful conversation about his journey back to Jesus. I love what William Lane Craig's wife said to him - don't become a Christian if you don't plan to give your entire life to Him. Following Jesus really is a radical change! It can be really hard at times, it's not as if everything suddenly becomes great and you cease to have problems. You just have a new set of problems that you were unaware even existed in regard to 'fighting the flesh' and such. But becoming aware of who God is, understanding you are no longer alone in the world, the new sense of meaning, the beauty all around you, the love that often brings you to tears when you sense His presence and so much more. That's a worthwhile trade I would give my life for every time
@tonyofmossley
@tonyofmossley 2 жыл бұрын
its like listening to an obsessed Michael Jackson fan...
@frankvandermerwe1487
@frankvandermerwe1487 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I don't believe this dogmatic garbage anymore.
@chriper77
@chriper77 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankvandermerwe1487 Which dogma do you follow now?
@frankvandermerwe1487
@frankvandermerwe1487 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriper77 None.
@chriper77
@chriper77 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankvandermerwe1487 Sure you do. Every world-view has a set of dogma they believe in. So if you're an athiest, you'd follow the tenets of evolution, moral relativity... It comes in different flavours, so there'd be slight differences in dogmatic positions on things, just like Christian denominations
@taniarobb5371
@taniarobb5371 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely conversation
@jbeiler55
@jbeiler55 Жыл бұрын
Minor nitpick, when Dawkins talks about debating cardinals etc, he's addressing the comment on the appearance of avoiding the strongest and best arguments from Christians not that he ONLY debates those people.
@afsar_gunner5271
@afsar_gunner5271 Жыл бұрын
Scrooge Richard Dawkins has written books based on total lies just to make some money !! Greedy old man. His attack on religious people is totally disgusting and unacceptable !
@Lakeslover1
@Lakeslover1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much . Clear , very clear in highlighting Dawkins cleverly worded deceptions.
@bestill365
@bestill365 Жыл бұрын
Dawkins didn't lead me to Christ, but his arguements certainly helped me solidify my faith in Jesus Christ. Richard spouts scientism ideology like it's complete fact and once I came to understand the difference between scientism and science, I saw right through him. Stephen Hawking sometimes proclaimed scientism. John Lennox dismantled something Stephen said as scientism in one of his debates. Stephen said, "Because the universe exsists, it can and will create itself from nothing." That's complete nonsense and unscientifc.
@Nimish204
@Nimish204 Жыл бұрын
That's the result of two laws: Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle and Einstein's Field Equations
@glowmentor
@glowmentor 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how many angry atheists are in the comments! Obviously can't keep away from the subject.
@mullahosk585
@mullahosk585 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating podcast. Let's have more interviews of people that saw through the New Atheists
@mystrength5640
@mystrength5640 2 жыл бұрын
Peter., May our Lord God Bless you abundantly! Our married daughter and husband have just moved to London from Johannesburg… permanently.. They devoted Christians, We miss them terribly, but know God will use them to Spread his word! Many South African Christians took God with them to Australia over the last 30 years! And Now many are Taking God back to The Uk! It’s OUR loss, But God Wins! Thank you to you both for your wonderful vlogs! 🙏🏻✝️🦁🐑🇿🇦
@Aftershock416
@Aftershock416 2 жыл бұрын
South Africa is already an overwhelmingly Christian country unfortunately, we really don't need them here spreading anything.
@piratealeks6865
@piratealeks6865 Жыл бұрын
I’m not an atheist anymore, and the arguments for gods existence resonate with me. What I DON’T understand is how you then make the leap to believing in the Bible/Christianity, specifically. Might be interesting to see some discussions between Christians and … I guess deists? Or any non religious people who still believe in a higher power. Either way I enjoy your channel, it’s interesting!
@asamiyashin444
@asamiyashin444 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is depressing to see people bouncing from one extreme to another of the false dichotomy like ping pong balls. For example, Native Americans could debate both sides of the dichotomy pretty well. They are neither atheists, nor Christians.
@cyclqal
@cyclqal Жыл бұрын
Hi there! I love that you have the open mindedness to think about this subject and the life decisions that come with it. I have a (relatively) simplified syllogism + factually verifiable basis that is very good evidence for specifically Christianity. 1. Christianity is based on the belief that Jesus was (and continues to be) God, and he died and rose from the dead as the perfect sacrifice for our sins. 2. We have eyewitness testimony that Jesus did indeed perform miracles, claim to be God, and even go so far as to rise from the dead. 3. If 2 is true, then at least the basics of Christianity are true and worth following. A reasonable follow up considers the "eyewitness testimony" mentioned in 2. You may ask questions like "How do we know it is still accurate? How do we know the eyewitnesses didn't lie? How do we know the eyewitnesses were not deceived? How do we know they were even eyewitnesses?" Q1) We have extremely old manuscripts of the New Testament. In fact, we have a good few. We have manuscripts of varying age from all over the world. They are handwritten and transcribed over and over again. If people had made changes over time, these manuscripts would be wildly different from one another. But they're not--they have minor grammar or spelling errors, but not much else. They've been dutifully preserved. Q2) The eyewitnesses, the disciples of Jesus such as Matthew and Peter, had no motivation to lie. They faced immense hardships throughout their lives as a direct result of their incessant proclamations that Jesus is Lord and rose from the dead. Peter was crucified for his beliefs. The early believers were not given money, nor food, nor clothes, nor comfort for their beliefs. They had to reason to lie. Q3) The Gospels (eyewitness testimonies I refer to) all tell the same story. They have different idiosyncrasies and clearly explain Jesus' life from different perspectives, but they aren't contradictory. It is impossible that every disciple was deceived exactly into believing the same story. They couldn't have all hallucinated the same thing either (that's not how hallucinations work). Q4) Simple answer. The Gospels have many details that both line up with one another and show that the people writing them were actually in the places they claimed to be. Later on, archaeology and immense research continued to show that these details were as accurate as they were abundant. So we have 1) accurate, 2) honest, 3) undeceived, and 4) eyewitness testimony that the person claiming to be God did all that he claimed to be and fulfilled many extremely specific prophies from thousands of years before his time. There are MANY questions to be asked here, and I understand if you are not completely convinced by this evidence, but this at least partly explains why people make "the jump."
@imamjimjamlawrence
@imamjimjamlawrence Жыл бұрын
Jesus' life death and resurrection would be my first place to tell you to look. There's a fair bit of historical evidence outside the Bible to support His existence. Go through the Bible and try to prove it wrong. That's what I did. I've been a Christian for almost four years now haha. God bless you, my friend!
@Nick-Nasti
@Nick-Nasti 10 ай бұрын
@@imamjimjamlawrencethe Bible is easily proven wrong on many, many points and while a person named Jesus likely existed, nothing about his divinity has any evidence.
@imamjimjamlawrence
@imamjimjamlawrence 10 ай бұрын
@@Nick-Nasti "the Bible is easily proven wrong on many, many points" To the best of my ability, I'm willing to answer any discrepancies. Sounds like you're aware of many many. To say that there isn't any evidence isn't accurate. The Old Testament provides prophecies that Jesus fulfilled during His life. As well as His death and resurrection. So, to say that there isn't any evidence isn't true. You may not accept it, but it's still evidence.
@Omgirrl
@Omgirrl 2 жыл бұрын
Today's word is "gullible".
@gavinhurlimann2910
@gavinhurlimann2910 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Justin & Peter.
@adoulidji3537
@adoulidji3537 2 жыл бұрын
For the people that say that people that were raised in a Christian household and then become atheists and went back to Christianity weren't really atheist. What about the people that were raised in atheists household, who became Christians and then went back to atheism, would you say that they weren't really Christian? And how do you know for a fact that’s what happened?
@stephenglasse9756
@stephenglasse9756 2 жыл бұрын
You're being too logical there😏 and expecting too much fair play from atheists
@ceceroxy2227
@ceceroxy2227 2 жыл бұрын
How hard is to be an atheist or theist, I believe in God, I dont believe in God, thats all it means. I could turn into an atheist right now if I changed my mind on Gods existence.
@gavinhurlimann2910
@gavinhurlimann2910 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenglasse9756 Well said.
@THX-bz8bi
@THX-bz8bi 2 жыл бұрын
Over the years i have read comments from athiest that range from strange to aggressive when people who start out as atheist then turn to religion. Its as if they want to deny that this could happen or that people change over time.
@technicianbis5250
@technicianbis5250 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceceroxy2227 It's harder to be a Christian than atheist, it's more than just saying i believe or i don't believe.
@bobskane4353
@bobskane4353 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure when Pete claims he was an atheist but it certainly was before 2009. The hostility in his voice when questioning Dawkins is palpable.
@JohnSmith-fp8il
@JohnSmith-fp8il 2 жыл бұрын
Great point! Anyone who asks Dawkins a hard question and purports to expose his cowardice can’t be a true atheist. True atheists don’t do that. They idolize Dawkins. Thank you for pointing out this apostasy.
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, true atheists deny to use a brain or ask critical questions.
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-fp8il Nah, his question was so dumb that I immediately thought that he must be a Christian.😂
@Aftershock416
@Aftershock416 2 жыл бұрын
The atheist movement doesn't promise to deliver anything! I'm not an atheist, but even I can recognize that he utterly misrepresents and outright discards the majority of the arguments people such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitches make. Has he even seriously listened to these people in more than 10 second soundbites? I will further point out that Dawkins is a biologist and not a philosopher and while his work has gained mainstream popularity, he is hardly the authority on atheism. As apologetics go, William Lane Craig is hardly original, merely rephrasing arguments that have already been made by his far more intelligent forebears. This man did not go looking for answers. He already had a christian worldview and went looking for whatever he could find it justify it. "I grew up Christian, went to a few atheist talks and doubted religion for a while, and then I was a Christian again."
@ericgreen3030
@ericgreen3030 2 жыл бұрын
Life is more serious then modern society leads us to believe. I'm a very loved father with 4 beautiful children. If they go TOO far out bounds they will not be suported. That is like God's judgment.
@ericgreen3030
@ericgreen3030 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you. Just that God came to us in a familiar way so we could actually relate to his will. Father mother brother sister . When shit hits the fan. Don't say I didn't tell you. Keep inquisitive.
@petermeyer6873
@petermeyer6873 2 жыл бұрын
"The atheist movement doesn't promise to deliver anything!" Exactly, because there isnt anything to be delivered! Stop searching for a free lunch.
@suichinggo8236
@suichinggo8236 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you both!!!
@grumpylibrarian
@grumpylibrarian 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, thank you for your story, Peter, if i may call you that. I haven't been actively searching for "atheist to christian conversion story," but I get enough theology stuff in my algorithm that I will occasionally get one in my suggested videos. I've been watching some of them lately. What I'm looking for is A) what's your backstory (especially if christian->atheist->christian), B) what convinced you christianity is true, and C) do you think you have a compelling reason that other atheists should believe. The story you have here covered this in greater detail than most, and was quite interesting. If your reason for converting were simply "I read William Lane Craig and found his arguments to be compelling," then you and I could respectfully disagree. If we had the opportunity, perhaps you could say why you found any given argument compelling, and I could agree or disagree, and offer how i felt about that or other arguments. Perhaps a great time could be had by all, even if we left still on different pages. My concern is that the argument you present here, repeatedly and proudly, and even in the video title, is that Dawkins somehow had something to do with this. Dawkins is wrong, therefore christianity is true? I know that's not the precise argument you're offering, but it's pretty close to what you're insinuating. I can't comment much on Dawkins in particular. I became an atheist 18 years before "The God Delusion" was published, and I wasn't interested in the subject at all when the Four Horsemen were at their height of fame. I possibly had heard the name "Christopher Hitchens" before he died, but I I couldn't say for sure. I've watched some of Sam Harris and Lawrence Krauss, but I hardly agree with them on everything. Harris in particular, I think he's an awesome speaker, but I disagree with him far more often than I agree with him. I have atheists and atheistic professionals, as well as agnostic, theistic, and I-have-no-idea professionals that I respect greatly for their work, but nobody gets a free pass. Ideas stand or fall, not people. As for Dawkins, I've seen him every once in a while, but I'm not seeking out his content; his area of evolutionary biology is not one of interest to me, nor is his style of counter-apologetics. If Dawkins was willing to debate some people and not Craig, then I agree that it's a little crappy of him to not do so. I don't put much emphasis on debates to reach truth, just an opportunity for each to get some specific ideas into the discourse and perhaps some entertainment, but that doesn't do anything in defense of Dawkins if he were willing to debate other people. But other people I do respect have debated Craig. I found the Harris and Craig debate to be very entertaining, but almost entirely uninformative, because I agreed with neither of their positions. On the other hand, I found Sean Carroll's debate to be highly informative, though not as comprehensive as I would have liked. Whether it's Craig, Dawkins, or anybody else, any ideas they have is a good or a bad idea, whether they're a good person or not, and no matter how good or bad their other ideas are. I know that the Dawkins dig was to put asses in seats for the channel, but you have a stronger case without referencing him.
@scottharrison812
@scottharrison812 Жыл бұрын
Great response… also intrigues me that atheists and Christians are in an endless tussle between two mutually exclusive polarities so often devoid if intellectual, psychological nuance. New Atheist vs Inerrantist/evangelical kinda dumbed down debates. Both Atheism AND Christianity are far richer than this. What of Pail Tillich or the De docta ignorantia of Nicolas of Cusa? What of the more tragic atheism of Nietzche or the current writings of Benjamin Cain? The conversations could be richer…
@gabrieldietz1866
@gabrieldietz1866 2 жыл бұрын
There sure are a lot of very rude people in this comment section, who all seem to believe they are smarter than the next person….. I suppose that’s to be expected when a channel deals with things like this, you’re bound to get an immense amount of hate and anger
@babhag5481
@babhag5481 2 жыл бұрын
Gabby...chill
@gabrieldietz1866
@gabrieldietz1866 2 жыл бұрын
@@babhag5481 I am, in fact, extremely chill lol but I can understand not letting the opportunity to use such a good meme pass you by. I respect that 😂😂😂
@jeffpickens4467
@jeffpickens4467 2 жыл бұрын
Gabby spitting fax, lol. Being the Internet it can be harder to love one another, cause ye aren't seeing a person.
@violettebakom9770
@violettebakom9770 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Amazing praise the Lord!!
@normanthrelfall8313
@normanthrelfall8313 2 жыл бұрын
Evidence documented that Jesus lived Antiquities 18:63. The standard text of Flavius Josephus historian, reads as follows: At this time there was a wise man called Jesus, and his conduct was good, and he was known to be virtuous. Many people among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive. Accordingly, he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have reported wonders. And the tribe of the Christians, so named after him, has not disappeared to this day. Pliny the Younger is another valuable historical source for information on Jesus and the early Church. Pliny was the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia, located in Asia Minor. In the year 112 AD, he wrote to the Emperor Trajan, asking how he should deal with those in his region who have been accused of being Christians. Lentulus, the Governor of the Jerusalemites to the Roman Senate and People, greetings. There has appeared in our times, and there still lives, a man of great power (virtue), called Jesus Christ. The people call him prophet of truth; his disciples, son of God. He raises the dead, and heals infirmities. He is a man of medium size (statura procerus, mediocris et spectabilis); he has a venerable aspect, and his beholders can both fear and love him. His hair is of the colour of the ripe hazel-nut, straight down to the ears, but below the ears wavy and curled, with a bluish and bright reflection, flowing over his shoulders. It is parted in two on the top of the head, after the pattern of the Nazarenes. His brow is smooth and very cheerful with a face without wrinkle or spot, embellished by a slightly reddish complexion. His nose and mouth are faultless. His beard is abundant, of the colour of his hair, not long, but divided at the chin. His aspect is simple and mature; his eyes are changeable and bright. He is terrible in his reprimands, sweet and amiable in his admonitions, cheerful without loss of gravity. He was never known to laugh, but often to weep. His stature is straight, his hands and arms beautiful to behold. His conversation is grave, infrequent, and modest. He is the most beautiful among the children of men. These references to Jesus are embarrassing to many because of what Jesus said and did during his ministry like: Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up; leave them alone, they are blind leaders of the blind, and if the blind lead the blind, shall they not both fall into the ditch. This is a good word for evolutionists and their blind faith, which has no substance in the fossil record of any micro-evolution or macro-evolution. We only have kinds within Species as part of their genetics. There are no transitional fossils as evidence. [The description above, agrees with the so-called Abgar description of Jesus as well as the description of Jesus given by Nicephorus Callistus, St. John Damascene, and the Book of Painters (of Mount Athos)[4]. God haters attack the teachings of Flavius Josephus as fake news, as if he had anything to gain as a secular historian for lying. Like scholars attack the claims of Marco Polo who commented that the Emperors of China used dragons to pull their chariots and that their eggs were considered a delicacy. What had Marco Polo got to gain by lying? Sir Richard Owen the Father of Paleontology, renamed dragons dinosaurs in 1841. I could talk about Dr Dennis Swift, but enough has been said-Kind Regards Norman
@GuitarDog_atx
@GuitarDog_atx 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, those are weak. They only show that xtians existed at the end of the 1st century. They are quoting what xtians think about their deity. The Josephus quote is a known forgery, but it's not contributed to him but others What's embarrassing and inconvenient to believers is the lack of any contemporaneous historical mention of the most important person/event in history. ZERO. The Dead Sea Scrolls don't even mention him and they were being written at the time. The references to Lentulus is what's embarrassing. This was a mysterious letter of unknown origin. Shows how desparate believers are to find something, anything to support their theology.
@hhstark8663
@hhstark8663 2 жыл бұрын
The work by Dawkins has been thoroughly DEBUNKED by the following works: - *"Answering Atheism"* by former agnostic Trent Horn - *"I don´t have enough faith to be an atheist"* by former agnostic Frank Turek - *"Is atheism dead?"* by Eric Metaxas - *"The Dawkins Delusion"* by former atheist scientist Alistair McGrath - *"The Devil´s Delusion"* by scientist David Berlinski - *"The last superstition: A refutation of new atheism"* by former atheist philosopher Edward Feser. - *"On Guard"* by former agnostic philosopher William Lane Craig - *"There is a god"* by former atheist philosopher Anthony Flew - *"Return of the god hypothesis"* by scientist Stephen Meyer - *"Stealing From God: Why Atheists Need God to Make Their Case"* by Frank Turek - *"God´s Undertaker"* and *"Gunning for God"* by John Lennox _________________ In video-form, I recommend the former atheist channels *"inspiring philosophy"* (Michael Jones) and *"Testify"* (Erik Manning).
@belfastboy7746
@belfastboy7746 2 жыл бұрын
Strange that you should list Anthony Flew in your list of debunkers given that Flew completely debunked the idea of the Christian God. Such is the desperation of believers that they are reduced to claiming people who firmly rejected the Christian God to support the Christian God’s existence.
@hhstark8663
@hhstark8663 2 жыл бұрын
@@belfastboy7746 You obviously has not read his book.
@LoveYourNeighbour.
@LoveYourNeighbour. 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhstark8663 Stealing From God - Why Atheists Need God To Make Their Case, is one of my all time favorites! As for Antony Flew, his conversion from hard core Atheism, to belief in God (some sort of Deism to be specific, if I recall correctly) came unexpectedly, for many people. So perhaps some are still unaware of his later book: There IS A God - How The World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind. "Why do I believe this, after I had defended Atheism for more than a half century? The short answer is: this is the world picture, as I see it, that has emerged from modern science" (Antony Flew). Thanks for the great list of books, Harry Stark. (On Guard is another great one!)
@rinzler9171
@rinzler9171 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Meyer also write "Darwin's Doubt?"
@jeffphelps1355
@jeffphelps1355 2 жыл бұрын
All those references are awesome but Inspiring Philosophy has really been a great inspiration.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 2 ай бұрын
i think that if religists are going to say that creationism ought to be taught in schools to provide balance, then satanism should be taught in churches for balance, right?
@jaggedstarrPI
@jaggedstarrPI Ай бұрын
I am a Christian who is NOT what I think you mean by creationist. I think, but could be wrong, you're referring to young earth creationism, which includes biblical literalism/fundamentalism. I do not think this "creationism" should be taught in high school science classes because, like the first five books of the Bible (i.e. the Torah) it is not, nor was it ever intended to be, science; nor does it include scientific descriptions. No need to rehash this tired old argument here. Your comment was interesting to me because of your reference to Satanism. I get the point you're going for, truly; but I don't think it works because orthodox Christianity is not a dualistic religion, like Zoroastrianism. Satan is not posited as the opposite to God. If anything, he would be opposite to the arch angel Michael. It's probably moot, because I agree that only science should be taught in science classes (crazy, right? Lol) but if you were to suggest another religious teaching, I would posit one with an independent creation story and god character (or gods). Maybe Hinduism? As a Christian, I would agree with you that if ...IF religious texts were to be introduced in high school biology classes, for example, then the Hindu Vedas (sp?) would need to be given equal time, assuming the presence of Hindu students. But hey, Mormons have a very different creation story; so that's even better for your point I think, since there are obviously plenty of Mormon students all over the US and the world for that matter. Sorry for the long winded comment but I was caught up/ interested by your comment. Peace.
@Garrett-hp2mj
@Garrett-hp2mj Ай бұрын
it is, the story of satan is taught and thats why we side with god.
@MorbiusBlueBalls
@MorbiusBlueBalls 29 күн бұрын
​@@Garrett-hp2mj last time i checked they didn't teach satanic bible. what you're being taught is how god describes satan not what satan says
@Jayden-zq6fj
@Jayden-zq6fj 29 күн бұрын
I think the point that we live in a society that has already adopted christian values, morals and ethics points the reason why we should learn about where the beliefs we all share come from. I don't think many agree on the things that satanism teaches. I have yet to talk to an atheist who vehemently disagrees with the teachings of jesus.
@nsp74
@nsp74 Жыл бұрын
great journey bro
@ldeanonmolina4077
@ldeanonmolina4077 2 жыл бұрын
Glory to God our Lord Jesus Christ! 🙏❤️✝️🩸🔥🙌
@hhstark8663
@hhstark8663 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Byrom´s journey: (cultural) Christian -> hard-core atheist -> (confessional) Christian ______________________ Article: *"Disillusioned with Dawkins: My Journey from Atheism to Christianity"*
@questionmark7045
@questionmark7045 2 жыл бұрын
„My Journey from Christian to atheism and stoicism” by ME.
@beemer2869
@beemer2869 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, thank you. God is moving in mysterious ways. I feel a much needed revival in the air.
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 Жыл бұрын
No. peoples minds moves in mysterious ways and believs any weird shit...
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 2 жыл бұрын
"The New Atheists" Oh if only there was something New about them.
@jamesemerson4102
@jamesemerson4102 2 жыл бұрын
Although I agree on giving all of your life to Jesus, I think it's also important to remember that we all have ups and downs with sin in our lives as Christians, and just because we make the decision doesn't mean we won't still struggle with sin. We need Gods help and It's a constant battle and a Journey to try and serve God throughout our lives.
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you qualified it with the "as Christians" part,.....because I was going to say that I don't have "sin" in my life.
@jamesemerson4102
@jamesemerson4102 2 жыл бұрын
@@DRayL_ Wow it must be pretty amazing to be perfect. What is it like?
@jamesemerson4102
@jamesemerson4102 2 жыл бұрын
@@DRayL_ Sadly, many people just don't have the Holy Spirit, and it is only the Holy Spirit that can give you a conscience of sin. You don't have the Holy spirit, so you're not Conscious of your sin, but it's definitely there. You can ask for the Holy spirit to come into your life though and help you realise that you need a saviour. We all do.
@allingtonmarakan6639
@allingtonmarakan6639 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesemerson4102 No one is perfect but the concept of 'sin' is illogical and based upon a set of values laid out two or three thousand years ago which are no longer relevant, (if they EVER were in the first place). The god of the buybull supposedly handed down about 600 'laws' detailing 'sins'. How many of those laws do you follow? How many do ANY theists follow? 'Sin' is ridiculous nonsense.
@jamesemerson4102
@jamesemerson4102 2 жыл бұрын
@@allingtonmarakan6639 You're very, very confused on your theology. Sin was not laid down by anybody. Sin has always existed since the creation of man. So, on your first point, your incorrect. If you're talking about Jesus, that was 2000 years ago, not 3000 years, and sin always existed before Jesus ever came.
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
End of vid... The closer you get to God, the more you get attacked.
@bearinasuithaha8417
@bearinasuithaha8417 Жыл бұрын
The more your beliefs stray from reality the more people can point it out
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
@@bearinasuithaha8417 The more you try to sound smart like you... the more you show your low IQ
@bearinasuithaha8417
@bearinasuithaha8417 Жыл бұрын
@@mizmera hmm that sounds like an even pettier insult than the one I gave to you. Fair enough I guess. Keep on believing you make sense and I’ll keep on living in the demonstrable reality
@mizmera
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
@@bearinasuithaha8417 mmm. I dont care that you are lost. Enjoy it :p
@adamgates1142
@adamgates1142 Жыл бұрын
Sad that God doesn't protect you from being "attacked" lol
@RobKlarmann
@RobKlarmann 2 жыл бұрын
Whether you believe any of this or not - one thing can be said for certain: I studied at university with Peter, and we both have had similar paths since then. Jesus transformed him and turned his life upside down (for the better, I believe). This is a sincere and truly unbelievable testimony, for which I'm grateful! Thank you for sharing your story. Your friendship still means the world to me and your heart for the gospel truth is inspirational.🙂
@itzyourbwoytchybooxuur6475
@itzyourbwoytchybooxuur6475 2 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@allingtonmarakan6639
@allingtonmarakan6639 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha, if the fairy stories in the bible changed him for the BETTER, goodness knows what kind of horrific mess the guy was before, lol.
@david77james
@david77james 2 жыл бұрын
@@allingtonmarakan6639 - A mess like you & your simplistic thoughts? Now that's a mess, albeit a common mess, since you likely have "an intelligent mind", which is the most powerful instrument known to humankind, yet, it is invisible/ non-material, as are its thoughts, memories, plans, inventions, languages, intellect, etc. The mental mess in your mind, indeed, shows you to be shortsighted, undetermined to seek the true source of the miracle(s) of life, and so much more, despite the fact that no man can demonstrate first thing about how the human mind came to be.
@allingtonmarakan6639
@allingtonmarakan6639 2 жыл бұрын
@@david77james Hahahahaha, My mind/brain are not invisible. I can have an MRI scan and a CT scan to show my physical brain represented through that amazing technology. Scientists can now map our thoughts in various parts of our brains as they occur. Everything is being explained by science as time goes on. Less and less is being explained using 'the god of the gaps' bullshit. The god of the gaps used to explain pretty much everything in nature, from thunder storms to earthquakes, floods and eruptions, droughts and plagues. Now the god of the gaps has been reduced to explaining how our mind works and even that is being pushed aside. Of course we can explain how the human mind came to be, you ignorant buffoon. We have transitional fossils of our hominid ancestors that show a beautifully nested hierarchy of development from most ape-like to most human. The increase in brain capacity is there for all to see. Truly, there are non so blind as the willfully pig-ignorant who will not see.
@david77james
@david77james 2 жыл бұрын
@@allingtonmarakan6639 - You need to learn a few basics allimar, including the brain (not mind) is biological, but it is the slave to the invisible mind, which is proof of the non-material spiritual realm. How do you decide what to eat, where to go, remember events & phone numbers? Does your brain store numbers? Where are they stored? I want to see an autopsy that shows this information? Is conscience & consciousness a biological asset? Where are calculations stored? What do these look like under microscope? Can you see them? Show me. Don't bother responding til you get a few basics, FREE, from many PhDs who discuss this info on the internet, & spend their lives learning more about it, including use of information discovered with people's NDEs & OBEs experiences. .
@JWCFB
@JWCFB 2 жыл бұрын
There was one negative thing about this conversation and that's the fact that it stopped.
@WhiteScorpio2
@WhiteScorpio2 2 жыл бұрын
WLC is a creationist, just not a young earth creationist.
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, he tries to make everyone equally angry by saying that Adam and Eve were directly created by God around 500k years ago… but Evolution is also true and pretty much all other details in the Genesis creation story are just myths or mytho-history.😂
@whitese7en448
@whitese7en448 Жыл бұрын
The person he speaks of who converted to atheism from Christianity, either still is a Christian or never was a Christian. My gut leads me to believe that he never was a Christian.
@carlpierce2486
@carlpierce2486 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nothing about what killer argument was said to 'convert' him back to the iron age cult.
@ceceroxy2227
@ceceroxy2227 2 жыл бұрын
just the evidence and argumensts convinced him, even though he didnt want it to be true.
@fiftycalguru
@fiftycalguru 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂Richard dawkins the great Christian evangelist🤣🤣🤣
@eddie1975utube
@eddie1975utube 2 жыл бұрын
So Dawkins doesn’t want to debate some fundamentalist and therefore this proves god exists?? Yeah right. Go learn more science.
@stover14
@stover14 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist on a quest for meaning in life, definitely looking forward to this one!
@Paine137
@Paine137 2 жыл бұрын
We all make our own meaning. Being told what is meaningful is meaningless.
@stover14
@stover14 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paine137 ok? I never looked for anyone to tell me what is meaningful? what exactly is the point of your comment?
@Paine137
@Paine137 2 жыл бұрын
@@stover14 I made an objective statement. Don't be so sensitive. Ok?
@Paine137
@Paine137 2 жыл бұрын
@Bryson Cole That's right.
@theRandy712
@theRandy712 2 жыл бұрын
The meaning is your experience, perhaps procreation. Do you think ants need a purpose? Birds? Mice? You're just an animal with a brain evolved enough to ask this question. That doesn't create or require any other meaning for life
@TEACHERCITO
@TEACHERCITO 2 жыл бұрын
What a hell IS this?
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 2 жыл бұрын
some bloke banging on about how bad it was being atheist and how christ saved him, or some siliar crap. who cares if he found god, it's whether god exists or not is the question, anyone, including atheists, can be mistaken.
@buckwindsor5773
@buckwindsor5773 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarryNicNicholas I was looking for some evidence ….and yes….what the hell is this?
@-justin-4077
@-justin-4077 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the testimony of a man who abandoned Dawkin’s New Atheism for Christ. How is that confusing?
@rinzler9171
@rinzler9171 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with either atheists or believers is neither side throws all their cards on the table at an attempt to discover the truth together. They play power games to get the other side in a "gotcha" moment as if to debunk their cause, refusing to consider their side may in fact be incorrect.
@kingcongie
@kingcongie 2 жыл бұрын
This is why people need to look at their arguments from the opposing side and do their absolute best to tear it apart. If you can't tear it apart, chances are it's a decent argument, if you can, then there you go, it's either wrong or unrefined. In any case, if you don't believe in Jesus, you should! He's the only way to get to Heaven! :D
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingcongie True.....which is what I did....and have found agnosticism to be my most reasonable and honest position to hold.
@kingcongie
@kingcongie 2 жыл бұрын
@@DRayL_ At least you're not an Atheist! :D I figured that I ought to just pick the religion that I found most convincing and logical instead of being agnostic.
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingcongie In a very technical sort of way, I would tend to approach the atheist side more than the theist side....however, I remain at being agnostic because I don't have all the knowledge of the universe to make any viable claim that "no god type entities exist". It could be that none do...but I can't know that. But I do like to contemplate on what "supernatural entities" might exist...and even wrote a fiction novel that used this as a basis. It was a fun experience writing it.
@reydemayo8906
@reydemayo8906 2 жыл бұрын
Praise God sir, welcome again in the Family of God, your intellectual talents may contribute to christianiaty to defend the faith once in for all deliver....godbless...
@stevehumphries4928
@stevehumphries4928 2 жыл бұрын
God word in the Bible defines what faith is ... “Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the *evident demonstration of realities that are not seen.* 2 For by means of it, the men of ancient times had witness borne to them.” - Heb 11:1, 2
@stevenumphlett6730
@stevenumphlett6730 2 жыл бұрын
Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them. Hebrews 13:9 NKJV
@johannaquinones7473
@johannaquinones7473 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel❤
@garyviehe9365
@garyviehe9365 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it is relevant or not to anyone, but after I listened to the conversation the second time, (out of curiosity), I counted 64 times Peter said "You know." I could never understand why someone has to keep explaining what they believe the other person already "You know."
@FaiaHalo
@FaiaHalo 2 жыл бұрын
@John Doe this was an actual question... Why are you so triggered by this person's statement and why make such a fuss about the comment?
@johnsposato5632
@johnsposato5632 2 жыл бұрын
@@FaiaHalo He's not triggered. He has a fair and well-reasoned objection to the other person's "point." He stated it with a bit too much hot sauce for my liking, but he's not wrong. "You know", "uh", "so" are conversation fillers used while the speaker gropes for what he wants to say next. Some people who are extraordinarily fluent will not resort to their use as often as others, but their overuse does not necessarily point to a deficiency in one's logic or beliefs.
@johnsposato5632
@johnsposato5632 2 жыл бұрын
And, please, can we henceforth restrict the use of the word "triggered" to conversations about guns and other similar weapons?
@justinfendelet8675
@justinfendelet8675 2 жыл бұрын
I believe in miracles because I am standing on one ...man is so tiny yet believes he knows everything Just like little ants .....
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 2 жыл бұрын
Ants believe they know everything?
@coluccipat100
@coluccipat100 2 жыл бұрын
A Christian is someone who has received Christ, salvation, and life in your human heart spiritual core, you are now alive in Christ. Basically, you're off the sinking Titanic and are now on solid land, been rescued. If as a Christian you start getting distracted by atheistic arguments, problem of suffering, God not intervening in the world, mistakes in biblical manuscripts ala Bart Erhman, etc., it does not change the core, only the focus, you are still on land, you still have spiritual life, even though your chemical thinking brain is directed in other ways. In Christian lingo, you are saved, but still learning and growing. Or, put another way, you are in Christ, but can either walk by the Spirit(as directed by the Holy Spirit in your heart core) or by the flesh(the ways you have learned to cope with life apart from God's leading; some flesh looks very good, some flesh looks very obviously destructive). Christians can know that God is real in their core life, and can also relax and enjoy life, be themselves. He won't leave, and you can't kick Him out of your heart/spirit.
@martifingers
@martifingers 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can non-Christians have a spiritual life?
@coluccipat100
@coluccipat100 2 жыл бұрын
@@martifingers Good question. In my understanding of biblical truth, you can definitely have a soulful life as a non-Christian, ie. meditation, prayer, fasting, yoga, experiences that bring joy, rules and principles of living that could bring the desired results, self-improvement, etc., charity giving out of concern for others, even psychic phenomenon, though I believe/know this encourages the demonic/dark side. I sleep on magnets and use devices that hopefully improve my brain and body health, and have definitely sensed many things using these. But these things involve our body and soul, not necessarily our human spirit. Our body and soul are very complicated, changeable, malleable, improvable, but also flawed because we have been born with the sin virus, into a sin/flawed world, hence the need for salvation, new life, spiritual rebirth, God's grace in Jesus' death and resurrection. Our human spirit is binary, either it is empty/dead, or full/alive in Christ/filled with the Holy Spirit. BTW This sin problem was caused by we created beings, both angels and humans, long ago because of God's gift of free will, which He chose to give us in addition to created life. I would highly recommend you search Andrew Farley, "Body Soul Spirit" sermons. Keep searching and asking these questions, I got my spiritual questions answered in spite of my religious/spiritual life...long story but happy ongoing "ending." Again, highly recommend Andrew Farley and his Grace Message ministry, have learned a lot about relaxing with God.
@tellingtruthexperiencingli9355
@tellingtruthexperiencingli9355 2 жыл бұрын
I don't wish to be Justin, but I would love to take hold of his interviewing skills and disposition during the debates of his quests.
@vovomorgan
@vovomorgan 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting memories of meeting Peter in a pub in Exeter ten years ago...
@seans5289
@seans5289 2 жыл бұрын
What an emotional story. Rare to see such an emotional reason for religious conversion. Thank you
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't all religious conversations based upon emotion?
@seans5289
@seans5289 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535: But… but that would mean… but what about the arguments? Plus, the trees
@hhstark8663
@hhstark8663 2 жыл бұрын
I can recommend Edward Feser´s testimony, if you want to see someone who did NOT have an emotional reason.
@seans5289
@seans5289 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhstark8663: What non-emotional reasons prompted Feser’s conversion?
@Xgy33
@Xgy33 2 жыл бұрын
do you need to detach yourself from all emotions in order to believe ? How can you do that?
@Conservative-Leftie
@Conservative-Leftie Жыл бұрын
By the way this guy never was an atheist...
@antoniomoyal
@antoniomoyal 2 жыл бұрын
Powerful testimony
@ramaraksha01
@ramaraksha01 2 жыл бұрын
This is how Death Cults work - life here is bad, after death there is a magic Retirement Home where we get to sit around doing nothing and enjoying self-gratification No wonder religion has to put in an injunction against suicide, otherwise people would be killing themselves trying to get to Heaven and these religions would be known as Death Cults
@technicianbis5250
@technicianbis5250 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramaraksha01 You are the one doing the devil's work, you are in a death cult and you know it.
@sethwilley9858
@sethwilley9858 2 жыл бұрын
I think for many atheists, the acceptance of god is not the issue; it's the God of the Bible they reject.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
wrong. its lack of evidence for any god.
@randomuser6306
@randomuser6306 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. It's accountability for their lives.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomuser6306 no you just dont want it to be false because of (X). I wish you guys could read what you wrote from a different perspective, I really do.
@ceceroxy2227
@ceceroxy2227 2 жыл бұрын
Its that, plus they may not like religion, they dont like that they have to humble themselves to something greater, and they get lost in their own narcissism, selfishness, and hedonism
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceceroxy2227 no, its just that there is no evidence. you all keep up making reasons rather then asking us.
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 2 жыл бұрын
At 50 I've watched the older faces of athiesm convert late in life many times and I have a feeling Dawkins himself may end up a death bed convert as well hes just been wrestling with God so much for so long .
@pwoods100
@pwoods100 2 жыл бұрын
There are just as many people who are old that deconvert. It goes both ways. Don't pretend it doesn't.
@hhstark8663
@hhstark8663 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Even Jean-Paul Sartre, Albert Camus, Fred Hoyle, Anthony Flew, Allan Sandage, Sy Garte (and many others) *accepted god* . It´s detailed in the book *Is atheism dead?* by Eric Metaxas, and in Flew´s own book *"There is a god"* and his Garte´s book *"The works of his hands"* . ______________ In video-form, I can recommend the channels *"inspiring philosophy"* (Michael Jones) and *"Testify"* (Erik Manning).
@belfastboy7746
@belfastboy7746 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhstark8663 Anthony Flew did not accept the Christian God and it is foolish to suggest that he did. Anyone who knows anything about Flew will know that he firmly rejected the idea of the Christian God. It is because of the extreme weakness of the arguments for the existence of the Christian God that believers are so desperate to claim people as believers in their God who most certainly aren’t.
@hhstark8663
@hhstark8663 2 жыл бұрын
@@belfastboy7746 Read the my comment again. You obviously didn´t read it clear enough. Anthony Flew arguably become a nominal cultural Christian.
@belfastboy7746
@belfastboy7746 2 жыл бұрын
This is known as wishful thinking …. or a victory for hope over reality
@Mark4Jesus
@Mark4Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
"Who Moved the Stone" by Frank Morison - great book for logical reasons to accept the reality of the resurrection of Jesus.
@questionmark7045
@questionmark7045 2 жыл бұрын
Rabbi Tovia Singer great channel for people who want some knowledge about the Bibel
@Robusquet
@Robusquet Жыл бұрын
Read Maria Valtorta and you will destroy any "Atheist".
@paulmorphy6638
@paulmorphy6638 Жыл бұрын
Robusquet: How so? Her book was on the list of books banned by the Catholic Church. If the Church doesn't believe it, why should atheists?
@Robusquet
@Robusquet Жыл бұрын
@@paulmorphy6638 And saint Padre Pio was also silenced by the Church, and saint Jeanne d'Arc wasn't canonized until 500 yrs after her death. Bla, bla, bla.
@paulmorphy6638
@paulmorphy6638 Жыл бұрын
@@Robusquet Sorry, but what's your point with all that? On one hand you seem to be saying that if you read Valtorta, you will believe in God. But now you're saying the Chruch screwed around with Padre Pio and Joan of Arc. So what's the deal?
@chrismaloney7562
@chrismaloney7562 Жыл бұрын
The point is that the Church is a human institution which means it is fallible. A Catholic’s true devotion is not to the Pope and not to the Church, but rather the triune God. Like any governing body, the Church has made countless mistakes over the centuries which means a look into such texts isn’t necessarily contrarian to being Christian.
@paulmorphy6638
@paulmorphy6638 Жыл бұрын
@@chrismaloney7562 Agreed that "a look into such texts isn't necessarily contrarian to being Christian." But a belief in them is. And if a Catholic is not bound to be devoted to the Pope or to the church, why should anyone bother being a catholic? Why should anyone bother being subject to all of its rules and decisions when it is simply a human governing body that makes countless mistakes?
@anthonyaduhene
@anthonyaduhene 2 жыл бұрын
Just awesome. Awesome
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 2 жыл бұрын
This has exactly to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@NoMementoMori
@NoMementoMori 2 жыл бұрын
"Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end" -most intelligent christian
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 2 жыл бұрын
"Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't." Those historians were born well after the claimed "events of Jesus". At best they were only relaying hearsay from early Christians. Did a "Jesus" exist? Maybe. Scholars generally agree. Was this "Jesus" exactly as described in the Bible, including actions? There is nothing that can verify any of these claims/stories. It's all a faith belief. "...as The Scriptures have prophecies..." I've not seen any legitimate "prophecy/fulfillment". Extremely vague, cherry picked, out of context "prophecies" can be made to say many things "fulfillment". "Evolution makes no sense when..." Evolution is irrelevant to whether or not a "god" exists. "Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood.....God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus." Not everyone sees these religious beliefs as you [as a Christian] would expect them to.
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoMementoMori What?
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 2 жыл бұрын
@@DRayL_ DUDE SHUT IT WITH THAT PSEUDOHISTORICAL/ PSEUDOSCIENTIFIC BS 😂. MYTHICISM IS A JOKE. Nobody asked nor cares about your LACK OF BELIEFS
@DRayL_
@DRayL_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@justingary5322 What I said is factual. Those historians were not contemporaries of the claimed "Jesus event" time period, so only could relay what others told them. You can "laugh" at this all you want, but it is fact. And I'm sure there are many who care about my "lack of beliefs".....so.........*shrug*
@Andres64B
@Andres64B 2 жыл бұрын
How can something that is non physical and not within the realm of space and time exist? To not exist within the realm of space and time is to not exist.
@Andres64B
@Andres64B 2 жыл бұрын
@@joefriday2275 Religion isn't science. Science is a method of doing things.
@Sundayschoolnetwork
@Sundayschoolnetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Great story!
@readfreak7
@readfreak7 Жыл бұрын
Loving these interviews.
@kimberlyo2037
@kimberlyo2037 2 жыл бұрын
Salvation is of the Lord, it is Him that overcomes our hard hearts and doubts, "by grace you have been saved and not by works so that no one may boast" Ephesians Once a person comes to faith in Christ, then sanctification begins conforming us to the image of Christ is not going to be finished this side of eternity. "When we meet Him face to face we shall be like him" 🤗
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask how you came to conclude this Jesus ever existed - was it an observation on your part?
@lovethetruth7875
@lovethetruth7875 2 жыл бұрын
Truly
@petewalker6321
@petewalker6321 Жыл бұрын
Great interview and wonderful to hear about Peter's faith journey. Thanks guys!
@Notevenone
@Notevenone Жыл бұрын
“You become a Christian it’s the start not the end.” This is so very true. I had no idea what I was getting into. But truly I felt I had no choice. So here I am, from being completely indifferent for several decades to one day two years ago something happened to me and my journey began. Would I give God up now that I know the journey is hard? Not on my life, that narrow gate has called my name and I will happily walk through it.
@norbertjendruschj9121
@norbertjendruschj9121 Жыл бұрын
“You become a Christian it’s the start not the end. True, but also a kind of a banality. Becoming a scientist is also just a start. As is every serious endeaver.
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 2 жыл бұрын
I love that British Accent just like Tom Holland speaks it.
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