This makes sense but then I don't understand why they're pushing more and more for people to pay to read. (I mean....I know why it's just how all businesses are. Hook people with a free/very cheap model and then add a price model later) but tweens/young teens are more likely to not be able to pay and just move onto pirating.

@@htsunmiku exactly what I what I always say! Kids don’t have money, so I don’t know what they expect, that why they really need a mature section or more stories with older themes

@@allyberg2792 Advertisement... That age range is the most important group to advertise to.

@@aaronmontgomery2055my dude, when did I say that they should drop catering to young audiences? I’m saying it wouldn’t kill them to add a mature section to expand their viewership. Kids have more time to consume content, yes. That’s why they’re a great demographic, but they usually don’t have direct access to money at all times. That’s why having a mature section would be great for older audiences that DO have money; who don’t care for some sappy high school comic and would rather read something more heavy

@@allyberg2792 I'm telling you why they do it... OK lets look at a comparable industry the Japanese manga. The manga industry is able to do so because they sell books and other merchandise. So the biggest direct profit are LN, the manga, and other merchandise. On the other hand webtoons lack that. Ads and such are their biggest profit. I believe the site doesn't want their name associated with anything actually mature because it is a Korean site directed at more "shonen" levels of maturity and the public may not like having the two types of thing connected so outwardly but most importantly the companies paying for ads don't want it. There are sites more dedicated to this type of material though that have ads that are geared towards adults. Lezhin and such fit your bill.

Or they're overtly sexualized in an arguably problematic way(Lore Olympus)

I feel you :( I would say that in a lot of webtoons (personal opinion!) the main character and their friends often look flawless (I would say especially females) whereas there'll be a couple characters that just look totally different and portrayed as usually overweight and ugly. I do feel there are a couple webtoons that break this mold though, but then again I've only recently become so aware of these issues.

-no im nice😭😭😭✋🏻✋🏻✋🏻✋🏻 (c) a bit overweight girl with glasses aka author of this comment

@@a.a.6318 I don’t rlly think Persephone is meant to be “overweight” she’s depicted as more “curvy” I think?

Wait how does sweet home fall into this? I’m sorry I read it a while ago, I just can’t remember

Yesss omg I love hooky so much, it inspired me a lot.

ive never heard of this webtoon! tysm for the rec, ill check it out soon :]

Ahh I love this comic! It's literally in my closet rn lol

yeah! it was def a favorite of mine when i first began reading webtoon series. the creator of the series actually just came out with another new comic called Marionetta!

Yes omg loved hooky

Maybe meant to be is a good one where he keeps his glasses 🫶🏽 and he’s so beefy and nerdy 😻

For real >:[ we nearsighted out in this biiiitch

:( Aa someone who wears glasses, like what?? Why??? Characters with glasses can look good, and if they were already established to have glasses, then WHY TAKE AWAY THEIR ******* GLASSES??

I'm going to take a bunch of pretty boys and make them wear glasses later into the webcomic to counteract this. It's glasses time.

​@@TuesdaysArt I'M GONNA GLASS /ref

NOOO HOW DID HE LOSE HIS SCARS ?! 😭 im tired of super ultra pretty boys! let him be a lil rough fr!!!!

OMG! I had to check the name to see if this was one of My older posts!!! I feel the same way. All the "handsome" guys all look the SAME!!! I am reading one where I cannot distinguish between three of the main characters' dudes. They're all the same height, and build and skin color with subtle differences in hair. It's even worse in school uniforms!

@@KimberlyPinkney OH MY GOD AND ALL THE MALE PROTAGS HAVE THE SAME COOKIE CUTTER ABS LIKE BRUH HES A FLORIST HOW TF IS HE SO JACKED AND THEY NEVER SHOW ANY EMOTION OR MAKE EXPRESSIVE FACES LIKE UGHH

well tbf it’s really hard to get a scar on your face bc of how quickly your skin heals ( unless you get like a burn or something that would cause disfiguration it’s a little different) but if you get a cut on your face it usually won’t scar, even if it’s really deep

i want to add that i do agree that a lot of webtoon realllly lack diversity in character design, so i don’t disagree with you but i just wanted to share that tidbit

That's pretty much what I'm doing with my webtoon "The Black Pearl Saga". Whole cast is black or POC

I know I’m a year late lol but I’m on the same boat as you! I’m saving up for digital drawing equipment like drawing pads and what not. I haven’t seen anything other than two comics which haven’t been updated in years about both world wars, hopefully by the end of the year I should be able to start! 😁

Maybe she was just reading the western made ones. My Life As A Loser, Weak Hero, Lookism, Viral Hit, Bully In-Charge, Annarasumanara, Duty After School all feature high schoolers. Especially those last two, they'll always have a special place in my heart Edit: I just want to add To Not Die, Distant Sky, and if you're looking for that coming of age story New Normal: Class 8, I highly recommend this one.

i agree!! i love shiloh, the art style and designs are super cool :D

I haven't read shiloh yet, but it's made by the same person that made nevermore right? Nevermore is an amazing webtoon in my opinion, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by the same author, but I was just wondering hahah

@@viii410 yes! :D same artist too, so theres plenty of cool visuals and world specific fashion and stuff like that

@@spaceraceluce I'll definitely have to read shiloh then!

@@viii410 yea i recommend! :)

Daybreak is honestly my favorite it's so wholesome and the art style is amazing

Yesss another Daybreak fan :D

When I read it I just twitch and scream into my hand cuz That’s all I want in a relationship 😫

i love the art and the diversity of the character designs but i think the actual storytelling is poopy doodoo. like the art and character design was like the only part of it i found enjoyable.

Ahhh finally! A daybreak fan!!!

lmao that's actually kind of the point of his physical appearance tho 😭he is the Protagonist TM

@@Ri-tr2lv yeah, that's what makes it so funny lol. He's literally the representation of all those good looking manhua love interests/protagonists and the mere fact that they all stick to the same aesthetic so well that he gives off that feeling is hilarious to me.

I think that the comics were initially made with passion, like when they were on the canvas/discover portion. But a lot of creators end up burnt out from the weekly originals schedule and are mostly at the whims of Webtoon itself, so thats why they end up feeling soul-less.

a side note is the KZfaqr making fixed art, cause not going to lie that looks weirdly ugly

​@@scarlet2766 ????

@@scarlet2766 shes the typical sjw lmao

What platform is it on?

@@justvibin1215 webtoon

omg one of my favorite comics ever! i shoulda added it to my list but i read it years ago (2016, maybe?) before i even knew what webtoons was 😩 totally forgot about it. def vouching for it for anyone who comes across this comment ! :]

DId you read Heir's Game? It's by the same artist with more adult themes and I love it soooo much I cried at the ending lol

@@beebee1794 oooooh i haven’t but i’ll start now. i’ve been looking for something similar after finishing Shoot Around, thx!!

no its okay, i understand you! :D i actually agree, right after i published this vid i talked with a friend and we came to the conclusion it might not be that the vertical format is limiting, but that no one knows how to use it correctly LOL. any comic ive read with it has been somewhere between "this is pretty okay, id still prefer traditional formatting though" and "jesus this is just terrible". so ill definitely check out your recs !! and thank you for the comment ! :]

@@cinnimani Last thing I wanna say, there's this review I saw years ago and I was reminded of yesterday but couldn't find it. I found it now. It's one of scamboli's videos. Here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/np6llq-Zype-fI0.html

The vertical format has potential, but it bothers me that you're kind of expected to use that format (like the way the websites are set up lend themselves more to infinite scroll than page format) because I personally get a bit motion sick if I'm reading a lot of infinite scroll comics.

The infinite canvas idea isn't new -- it's been long thought of since online comics was becoming a thing back the late 90s-early 2000s. I remember Applegeeks experimented with the concept a few times.

@@anonymouswitness3835 the only horizontal scroll comics I know of on webtoons are those of Donghoon Lee, creator of "Yumi's Cells" and "Daily Life of Jojo"

i know :((

I love that one so much!!!!

I love LMLY and I really hope it comes back some time in this new year. It would be amazing

@@shostysboo what is LMLY? let me love you or something?

@@chuckletcake580 idk, from what I’ve seen, the author hasn’t really said what it means

I highly recommend Daybreak…! Black leads and love interest! Diverse cast, very queer and wholesome AF very beautiful art as well…!💖 That webtoon got me kicking my feet and giggling in my pillow!😭💀

@@minervajones2585YOU BEAT ME TO IT 😭❤️💞 I was so so happy to find it!

o I remember reading Ola back a few years ago -- very diverse cast & set in the UK too which isn't usual

Eleceed. Lots of black characters there and the shade of their skin doesn't stop on mochaccino brown. They're really dark.

@@ajuicyahjussi lol black doesn't mean African bra, I'm talking about actual Africans in Africa 😆

@@TherealChainsawmaniac hmm Westwood Vibrato then. 🤔 Setting is South Africa, no specific country tho

What are your comics called?

@Splendid Sei The 2 big ones I'm working on right now is "Kill all heroes" and " The Merchant of Ignitius "

Jackson’s Diary 💃

I read all of them 🙂

I LOVE JACKSON' DIARY AND GHOST EYES OMGGG

I'm working on something myself, and I'm hesitant to put it on webtoon, too. Self publishing is probably the way to go.

Hello!!! I hope you do post it to a platform because I'd love to read :)

@@fightingonisiononsight8185 I've figured to just go ahead and post it on webtoon canvas, the art might suck cause I'm not too great at it

Honestly, i really dont recommend publishsing it on webtoon at all. 1) the algorithm is gonna be a problem and 2) even if it gets popular and recognized by webtoon and becomes an original, webtoon is literally going to control your whole story and how it goes itll make your passion project into a horrible chore youll loathe to do everyday because it wont be what you like doing and itll be what webtoon wants you to so. Webtoon treats its artists like shit and theydont care about you, they care about the revenues you bring so i really dont advise you to do publish it on webtoon

@@Lvcenttt I think i'm going to do everything in my power to keep it as a canvas project, even if the algorithm won't treat it well at least it will be out there. I might try to get it somewhere else in the future

Yes, CTC is awesome!

OMG YESSS im obsessed with CTC, i bought a tier of her patreon just to read ahead of a cliffhanger

@@rizi8844 gonna be me soon fr 😭

CTC rules, I screenshotted the page of Lillium diving through the ceiling (iykyk) to send to my friend like "DUDE LOOK AT THIS PANEL IT'S SICK" Hiveworks comics in general are pretty cool (I also like Paranatural), I think it's because afaik you have to be invited on so there's more quality control

I recommend Extraordinary Attorney Woo! Its a great story that centers around an autistic attorney and was adapted from a great kdrama.

@@noname.7474 Oooo, thank you for the recommendation!

@@TuesdaysArt your welcome, I hope you like it! It's definitely one of my favorites, has a special place in my heart.

Yeeeeeees. The cute gay mermen! But with well written characters! And a slowly unfolding story that leaves plenty of space for theories and brainstorming!

@@book-obsessedweirdo8677 I love it so much!

i never see anyone mention gourmet hound omgg 😭 i love that webtoon

I'm not to aware of where to read comics webcomics outside webtoon or tapas so if you know do tell

[Ik this is an old comment but] The downside of individual comic websites is that there's no central hub to find them. You could probably ask for recommendations on reddit or a forum or something, and just being more involved in comic/art spaces in general tends to help (indie comic artists will often give shoutouts to other comics so that can be a good way to find more)

i love encore

Encore is so good

Omg I really love "cursed princess club" honestly one of my top favs

dragonbourne is so cool! :D

+1 on suitor armor i enjoy big tiddy modeus and i think its very well written

Suitor Armor is a big W

Suitor Armor is easily one of the best comics on Webtoon right now

100% yes on Suit Armor

The issue with The Princesses Jewels(apart from the creator) is the way the FL treats the men( one gets forced into the harem after the girl blackmailed him and threatened to castrate his father) If the roles were reversed, the webtoon would be cancelled

They claim they're Korean or Japanese, but they look super whiteboy white with Ethinic names. The ones who look ethnic are usually depicted as losers or ugly.

Lol at this point sifting through comics is a habit now. If your looking for great reads, I recommend Rose Tide Rising and Holy Hell (if you aren't already subscribed).

I liked it before they changed the art style.

Also! Long ass Side Rant! I totally agree about the formula on webtoon being bad. For multiple reasons 1. Imagine reading a Manga where every page is one panel. It takes away emphasizing important moments. Everything becomes stagnant. Panels are the equivalent of a literary paragraph. Imagine a book where each page is a paragraph. 2. It draws out the story massively. Not only for the author but especially for the readers. Sometimes, you don't need an entire page just for a character to respond. 3. It becomes boring so quickly. Even the important moments where the author is adding all these effects and gradients to create a mood, becomes moot. As a reader, we've exhausted ourselves of looking at grand pictures with no actual merit. 4. It drains the creator! Can you imagine having to draw nearly 100 full pictures of the same characters and backgrounds over the span of at most 2 weeks, FOR YEARS!? Break that damn page up! 🤣 you will be able to get out more of what you want to say AND using panels is fun! You could get really creative with it 😏 😉 Just because webtoon opens the door to scrolling, doesn't mean the format should drastically change 😆 I honestly think the new method has more cons then pros, and it makes the reading so boring after like chapter 5! I have many webtoon rants recorded on my phone, none of which I post because I'm too afraid of the inevitable dragging 😅 🙃 but also I don't think being on KZfaq, giving commentary, helps creators. The fan base you will inevitably create will be more interested in your commentary than your comic. You'd get a massive amount of views because there are a lot ambitious people looking for a community to interact with, and people love a good rant/critique/commentary. But in the end, you blow up, and then the pressure of creating the best damn comic weighs on you and it inevitably crushes you as a creator. I think if anyone wants to use KZfaq for their passion project, always look at it as just that. Don't post trying to capture the attention of 100's of people, post because you want your own content to look back on 🤣 people who are really interested will stick around to look for the links, people who were just curious will merrily take their cookie and move along.

ALSO BROO i thought i was the problem for the longest time becs im making a webtoon and the main trio are all black characters and i was like "....am i doing too much?" cuz the way i consume so many webtoons with white or east asian mcs and see so many people who call it trying to be "woke" when it comes to webtoon creators who include more than one black/brown/dark skin character like???

@@LACHRYMA Bro just add whatever you want. Those people who call writers or artists woke for drawing people like them or having diverse characters are stupid. I mean having 3 main black characters is fine cause think about all the all white main protags. Nobody rips on everyone being white or het but when it's black or anything diverse they call you a bad writer or a self insert writer.

@@mr.milquetoast9043 ty :)

omg i found someone who likes love sickubus too! :o especially i'm interested in the world building and the actions!!

@@Xherion OMG YAYY