The “no fat” is always a sign to me that veganism is not the main purpose of the diet. It’s a clean eating health obsession (often weight obsessed low key) diet. As soon as they find an argument for another way of eating being healthier, they’ll switch and have almost no resources to defend against the new change because the lack of fat makes them irascibly hungry. People who are serious about veganism eat fats and make sure they’re nutritional bases are covered so they can sustain it.

for a long time i kept craving eggs, when i still lived with my non-vegan family i would sometimes just STARE at the eggs but my morals are stronger so i was able to not eat them, but i craved them so badly. i decided to do something about it and upped my protein and fat intake by a lot, I ate a lot more carbs back then but switched them to proteins and fats and ever since I haven't been craving eggs at all anymore. it really did the "trick" for me. i have heard this from other vegans as well, eat enough protein and fat

Hello! I am a long time subscriber and I have never wanted you to cover something more than the Liz Seibert situation with the diet, the supplements and her pill shaming Abbey Sharpe and also more so her claims about the dairy/ animal products she consumes while claiming they are from happy healthy animals from an Amish farm and the unpasteurised milk. Seems like a perfect storm for you to cover :D

My favorite 'my body doesn't know what it wants' example is iron deficiency and craving ice. No amount of ice will boost my iron, but my body thinks it does. 😂

I converted my backyard into a suburban homestead where I grow most of the produce I eat. It’s better for the environment than having the same yard and just growing turf grass but honestly I mostly do it because it makes me feel more in control of my life. That said, you get diminishing returns if you try and get ALL of your calories by living off the land in a temperate climate. I’d rather buy beans, grains and oil from the supermarket (and Nugo bars- I’m addicted to the mint chocolate ones).

I have pet goats and the part about eating the goat is so disturbing to me. It's like eating a dog. These animals that people raise trust their owners. They get exciting when they see their owners. They have no idea that their owners are going to kill and eat them. Turns my stomach.

To be fair she does look tired, pale and depleted - her body is obviously missing something it needs.

it's not about the community, she clearly looks sick

My wife and I have relocated to a subtropical region in Spain with the intention of living a self-sufficient and sustainable lifestyle. We adhere to a vegan diet out of compassion for animals, and this commitment is unwavering.

The lack of Vitamin D and B12 is a huge issue for some people. A no fat diet isn't good for anyone.

What is funny is that they don't want to rigidly adhere to veganism in order to rigidly adhere to homesteading principles! Edit: Swayze, I think you should take a look at the responses to that comment. Some of those are hilarious and maybe worth a video!

I don't think most people do homesteading for the environment. They do it to be more self sufficient and less dependent on crappy corporations that are killing us.

“Living closer to the land” Ah yes, the most natural way of living…by farming genetically modified animals you can’t find in the wild

The excuses are so lame. Why does it have to be all or nothing with these people? If you're having ~cravings~ that badly, then just give into it, see how you feel during and after, and maybe you'll realize you didn't want it after all? But nope, it's "omg I thought about a burger can't be vegan now!" The immediate jump to wanting to hunt definitely gives off a desperate to fit in vibe. Her husband probably has a bunch of friends he feels left out from because they all go hunting. Lame tbh.

So confusing how she's been vegan 10 YEARS!?! and now suddenly thinks she can't survive without animal products?! wth? I'm not sure I need to say much more than that..

For perspective, an average deer yields about 54 lbs. of meat. If they truly limited their intake of meat and supplemented with eggs and/or fish, one deer would likely last their family about a year. Although I’m not a fan of hunting or eating deer, to me that’s a more ethical stance than eating supermarket meat. Of course, if meat becomes the central component of their diet, the ethical meter shifts, but I’d still have more respect for people giving serious consideration to the ethics of their diet than people who just mindlessly consume factory produced animal products and meat.

She used to talk all about how her husband has rheumatoid arthritis and vegan diet is best for him but i guess not anymore

Selfsufficiency isn't at all realistic. "Homesteading" to an extent that is rewarding can be.. We have a big garden and we grow a lot of our own vegetables and fruits. We also buy tofu, plantbased milks, fruits, seeds, nuts and vegetables when they are not in season, beans, various grains, and we do make seitan from gluten flour. This autumn I decided not to grow my own Brussels sprouts, kale, Swiss chard or cauliflower because my m-i-l broke a hip and I don't have strength to both "homestead" (such a silly word) and take care of her. Thank God there are professional farmers and stores and I'm not alone with a house, a garden and my family. There's a reason why we arranged societies. We need each other.

In the end it’s their life why should we care

Yeah ... homesteading and veganism will naturally be at odds, particularly as long as veganism requires supplementation ...

Oh I feel so sad, I've been vegan for 9 years now, and I can't even watch those butchering videos, it hurts so much to see the animals suffering like that. The idea that they will hunt is horrible to me, especially because they are quite privileged people they decided this, and even went as far as laughing about it, it's so weird:(, and the comments on their video are so positive, I guess they have a completely new audience now. I don't feel comfortable following them anymore. Thanks for making this video so I don't have to see it.

I quite liked their channel and I wasn’t just disappointed but also her going into depth about watching butchering videos was shocking… but once they got a purebred dog from a breeder I kinda knew something like this would follow

I totally agree with your point about cravings. If I gave into all of my cravings, and what my body truly wanted, I would be eating pizza and ice cream every day for every meal. I also just tend to find people like this offputting because they seem to make whatever thing they do in life their main personality trait. I am a gay hairstylist, but I don’t go out of my way to make it well known to every single person that meets me that I’m a gay hairstylist. I have a feeling people that Homestead are obsessive and want you to know.

I always feel kinda surprised when I hear "I was craving animal products really bad so I started eating them again". Like, were these people vegan just because it was easy for them, because at some point in their life they didn't consider meat and eggs as appealing anymore ? Personally I'm not one of those people repulsed by the look/smell/taste of animal products. I LOVE meat, I LOVE eggs, I LOVE cheese... and I'll probably have to fight cravings all my damn life. I do it every single day. For real. It's HARD. But it's the choice I made, for the animals. Not for me.

This is so interesting to me because I am not vegan but I definitely could not eat a chicken that I am friends with. I have a pet rabbit and although I didn't eat rabbit before I could never now that I hang out with one everyday.

Did you see that avangardevegan (Gaz) also got chickens for his garden but he doesn't eat the eggs . He feeds the eggs back to the chickens and gives some away to his neighbours that would have bought them in the supermarket. I think that's such a great way to do it.

I am not vegan but I’ve eaten plant based off and on throughout the years. I appreciate your takes on leather. I’ve bought a few leather goods over the last decade. Each time I do the product lasts me at least a decade and I don’t replace it until it completely wears out.

I don't like judging people by their looks, but her appearance is striking to me in this video, maybe the lightning is terrible. But she does look tired and emaciated, i hope it's the postpartum doing that and not a result of severe dietary restrictions. If it's the latter, i'm not surprised at all for her cravings

One of your not-fully-vegan viewers here-even I recognized that her sudden cravings cropping up, especially during pregnancy and breastfeeding, signify something to do with nutrients, not necessarily with animal products. When her face first came onto the screen, I was immediately concerned; she looks very... gaunt. Perhaps that's just how she looks, and there's nothing wrong with that; but it sounds to me like she needs some bloodwork done, and that she hasn't been vegan for the reasons she may have started out as for a while now.

Well interesting thing my grandma primary ate a vegan diet growing up on the farm as kid cause they were too poor. She always tell me on Fridays they eat meat once a week and rest was veggies and breads and potato’s . Hunting really wasn’t accessible at the time. They had like 15 kids to feed lol

I can hardly bear the idea that I probably stepped on bugs today. I can't imagine watching those videos and being ok with it. I am also on a homesteading journey. I wanted to buy fewer mock meats mostly due to the high cost, so i started buying 4lb bags on vital wheat gluten and making my own seitan from scratch

I feel like the whole living off the land is prompted by a belief that living off the land is more sustainable and more environmentally friendly and I’m wondering if actual scientific studies support this. I just can’t see how if massive amounts of people did this it certainly would not be sustainable and off the grid does not always equal environmentally friendly because not all use eco friendly forms of heating and powering homes. Just imagine even a small town where the majority of people were heating their homes with fire wood, the air quality would be terrible. If everyone left cities to go live in forests and the country they would cease to be the open wild spaces they are. I think the answer is not abandoning cities but instead greening them and making them more functional.

"Im not sure what she means".... she means her body is sending her signals to not deprive herself "our bodies are dumb" the only dumb i see here is.... well WE ALL can finish that sentence

Anecdotal, but I’ve had 2 vegan pregnancies, breastfed the first for 16 months and currently breastfeeding my 4mo old now. Never felt depleted but I did have to increase my protein and vegetables intake to feel my best!

The thing that gets me is them talking about the aspect of homesteading in a sustainable vegan way would take like 15 years to get to. But instead of being original and committing to that for people coming after them aka the future of the human race that needs to reduce animal agriculture by a ton for climate change, they say that it’s more sustainable to add in animals. Like no, the status quo is not more sustainable!!!

Sounds they didn’t go vegan because they cared a lot about animals in the first place. You can’t care much if you go from vegan all the way to hunting and butchering and laughing about it. Crazy.

The solution I found for the boots was buying second hand, I don't like the idea of leather at its face, but at least with second hand leather I feel like I'm using something that already exists and so it won't cause direct harm to an animal. I know some other vegans disagree, but logically speaking, no additional animals die because I buy a pair of sturdy boots on ebay.

I'd say, the way people define homesteading and the way they go about it also fits into the category of "rigid groupthink".

It's hard for me not to roll my eyes at people like this. It took me a couple years to figure out a way of eating vegan that works for me. But I literally still crave meat all the time. Ive never been put off by meat lol. I think its delicious, a lot of animal products are more convenient etc. But just because I want something doesn't make it ethical or a good choice for other sentient beings, myself, or the planet. I used to feel like I was a "bad vegan" for this but not anymore. If more people like me talked about yea of course I like meat It's delicious, but I don't eat it because it causes suffering, I think we could get more people to be vegan... Honestly if I just lived how I "craved" I would start smoking cigarettes again immediately (quit 10 years ago), I probably would be drunk and high constantly lol. My "cravings" are hilariously self destructive, the idea that what I'm craving is in any way something I should listen to is just such a dangerous road to go down imo.

The most interesting part of her video and her message is the fact she says "I don't WANT to be vegan anymore". That is where the distinction is... Unnatural Vegan is right, she has - at the time of this recording - not even tried animal foods yet, so yes, she does not know how eating those would feel. All she knows is that she is craving them - and probably the memories and social aspect connected to them. I think a lot of the ex vegans over time find out that returning to eating animals does not fix whatever perceived issues they had that they ascribed to eating a plant only diet. But first they go through the honeymoon phase of "eating whatever i want". and they will start feeling better because it's a mental thing. Mental restriction can feel very suffocating when viewed as "i want this, but can't do/have it". Just look at children... tell them they can't have something, and how much more do they want it? Exactly... those with kids or any knowledge of kids get it. Our brains are not much different in that respect when we grow up... we want what we want, dammit... and boo on those who dare tell me i can't have it! Except, if you've grown up just the right amount, you will get that everything in life is a choice, and nobody is "taking anything away" from you... You get to make your choices. So, when you're a fully grown, functioning adult, you --- hopefully --- get to a point in life where you get all this... So i'll say it once more for the people in the back: Everything in life is a choice, and nobody is "taking stuff away from you". And then, besides the psychological aspect, there is the actual physiological side to this story, and hint hint, it relates to HUNGER. Unnatural Vegan, again, is right, when she says that a restrictive (low fat,homesteading) diet is basically a recipe for disaster, and this pattern has been observed in so many ex vegans... The story goes: they restrict their food intake (whether it's calories or macros), get hungry, start craving calorie dense sources of foods. It's the same every single time. One goes on a water fast, the other goes low fat, and yet another goes on a gym diet where they neglect carbs or fats and eat TOO much protein (aka too little calories). Women on low fat and/or low calorie diets lose their cycles. Long story short: if you're hungry, your brain is going to send you mental hunger of food items it has registered as extremely energy dense. And if you grew up in the western modern world, that will be heavy on the dairy and meat and eggs. Lesson: EAT ENOUGH FOOD, DON'T NEGLECT MACROS, STOP LISTENING TO FASTING/LOW FAT/RAW FOOD/GYM GURUS. Okbye.

“I wanna live on the land” great that is the best place to grow your own fruits and vegetables. How lucky she is to grow whatever so wants and she chooses to eat animals instead 😢

i think it's really weird, that these ex vegans are now watching butchering videos???

You're blaming homesteading for why people choose to stop being vegan? I'm confused.

Thats an absolute top notch teacher your kid has.

I would disagree on cravings. There are too many cases, like this child that was eating rubber I think and turned out to be deficient of some mineral in rubber. I used to crave milk until I started eating a lot more beans and then it just stopped. I went keto and had recurring dreams about beans and bread. It couldn't have been protein, but there is something in beans and bread I was missing because once I had some it left, and I quit keto because of it. I'm mostly plant based now, not vegan. I don't crave meat. I have a little cheese and put an egg in my pancake batter. Haven't had meat in quite a while. If I did, I would eat it.

I think its awkward embarrassed laughter

I never want to eat meat, but I did go vegetarian after 6 years vegan to make it easier for my extended family that isn't even vegetarian. They tell me all the time that they really appreciate how much easier it is to include me. I hope some day if I am just responsible for my own food I can be vegan again.

It's great to see a teacher take that into consideration! I was a vegetarian growing up. I had the exact opposite experience in Roseburg OR when I was 10ish.

I always laugh when HUMANS call another speices "invasive"!

Why is always the show-offs those who are trying to project their perfect holistic helathy lifestyle to others that end up being ex-vegans and then there are the normal (whatever that means) that just show people what they eat in a day that continue the plant lifestyle.

When I first started my vegan diet, I started craving eggs after about 2 months. After thinking over how I'd been eating, I realized I wasn't actually eating as much protein or fat as I thought I was. Once I upped it, I felt so much better and the craving went away. That, plus I found Indian black salt, which gives anything an egg flavor! 😂 (I mainly just use it for my fried tofu breakfast sandwiches).

She’s postpartum and nursing and probably not eating enough. So she’s craving more calorie dense food, not specifically meat or eggs. But instead of even attempting to eat better (and more) as a vegan she’s just talking herself out of veganism.

that girl's vocal fry is over the top. probably gerd.

@5:20 pregnant women ESPECIALLY are known for craving weird food combos. That's your extreme hunger and hormones "talking". She needed to be "eating for two" in her meal planning and may have had a really hard time doing that on a low fat vegan diet which no vegan doctor recommends.

5:10 Are you suggesting that pica doesn’t have a nutrient-deficiency basis?

I really want to try that yondu! Seuonkong longest (not vegan anymore, sadly) has talked a lot about it and she makes a lot of korean food that looks delicious.

I've always had a "sweet tooth" as my granny called it. Since making a concerted effort to cut down on sugar, I've craved it less. So not only were the cravings unrelated to my nutritional needs (I was getting more than enough calories) they were worse when I was eating MORE of the thing I was craving, not less...

What I don't get is why people want to be homesteaders. It honestly sounds like backbreaking work. It's honestly kind of sickening that rich white people get to decide to own land and play at this whole homesteading thing while farmers struggle to turn a profit and earn a living from it.

I stopped watching when they started putting their kid on screen, and they went from being pretty against that to changing their mind pretty quickly. So I'm not surprised they changed their mind about veganism, and I'm not interested in their new chapter of hunting and raising animals. Their vegan diet was unsustainable, and clearly they didn't want to make the effort to eat a healthier and more balanced vegan diet. They want a lifestyle, not a sometimes challenging but kinder diet and lifestyle.

In my opinion, this video was created with the utmost respect. Well done. Indeed, this type of video is intriguing. Many individuals opt to avoid fat and an adequate amount of protein, subsequently turning to animal fat and protein, which results in an immediate sense of well-being. Why not experiment with incorporating fat and a 10% increase in protein? They just never try this.

Look how skinny they are! They need to try to eat a normal vegan diet you know like 1800 calories with healthy fats and protein not just raw greens.

You make a good point about sustainability. Because they're not necessarily wrong... if you live super rural or homestead/farm, often having small livestock like chickens and hunting local wildlife really is more sustainable than driving long distances to grocery stores to pick up canned or dried plant protein that was probably grown and processed far away from where you live. But if their choices were truly all about sustainability, then they wouldn't homestead in the first place. They would live in a medium to high density urban environment and leave those rural spaces for actual farmers to grow food for sale, or leave that land as natural environment. It's pretty weird to choose a highly unsustainable lifestyle (developing acres of land for only your own family's use) and then say they want to incorporate animal products to be more sustainable.

I don’t get the idea of self-sufficiency. As a social species, the interdependence of humans helped is to crawl out of the caves. Together we developed cultures, art, philosophy, and science. I prefer healthy interdependence.

She really just started talking about her "journey". The use of the wprd journey in these videos is so common it's weird. Perhaps it's an attempt to cope with the guilt by acting like the track is paved, you're just being thrown into this by the universe instead of making a choice.

Yondu is so good!! I use it in all my stir frys, fried rice, soups, etc. Enjoy!

Homesteading is a lot of work for almost zero return. It''s best to get a job and just buy your food. One way or the other you are working for food. Typically, a job is much more profitable in the long run. I'm so lucky to never crave any animal products. vegan for over 45 years.

I hope these people apologize to farmers and admit they were wrong about it. Farming is a RESPONSIBILITY. Not a "closer to the land" thing. These animals rely on you for everything.

I lived together with a vegan over 8 years, he is now 73, he does 3 hours sport mainly yoga etc. every day. He lacks nothing. I eat the food he cooked but I wasn’t vegan or vegetarian, so I sometimes on occasion I had what I craved. But as he was the main cook I was for longer periods also vegan. I could have made my mind up and stayed vegan but I am just different and don’t like to make my mind up about food. I am so greatful for every meal and what the grocery shop offers. I genuinely think vegans who decide not to be vegan never were vegans in the first place,they just followed a script in there head, promoted it with success on the internet and than get into trouble when there fake vegan attitude disappears. But everything in this world has its place and I can only give a shit about it.

The same people who chastised "animal industry" aka farming... Now want to have a homestead.. These people dont know the FIRST thing about rearing animals. Its a massive responsibility. its not for former vegans. Its for people who ACTUALLY know what they are doing

Hydrochloric acid levels need to be appropriate in our stomch to break down and absorb protein. This is especially important for veg proteins because there is also fiber to digest. A lot of people have low stomach acid. If youre craving iron rich foods and/or struggle with anemia (vegan or not), incorportating some betaine HCL plus pepsin with protein rich meals can be very beneficial

Interesting video. ❤

This reminds me of my former friend who kept asking me if I would eat "ethically" sourced meat. That "ethical" meat being self hunted animals His grandfather is a hunter and got that idea in his head. It didn't even occur to him I had a problem with killing the animals too, not just with someone else doing it

Yikes, it does seem to be a trodden path I’ve also noticed… I don’t know if anyone else watches “Tyler & Todd”- super cute Canadian off grid couple, but who also were clear for years about being vegan (even though wasn’t a focus of their channel). To my knowledge they haven’t addressed it but it definitely appears recently they’re eating meat, mention potentially owning chickens and goats in the future. I’ve wondered if it was that they feel like being off-grid offsets things enough from like a climate priority or something, and/or it just being difficult to get the vegan options they want. But I think you’re right- as with this couple, the appeal to nature fallacy behind these pastoral homesteading fantasies seems to inevitably consume people’s identity.

The only thing cravings signify is that you're not eating enough. They seem more into lifestyle than what they truly believe to be moral or true. When they went vegan it was popular now everyone is going with the homestead and carnivore lifestyle which they will probably drop when they find out of hard it is to run a farm and how sick they feel only eating meat. I'll be honest my first year I went vegan I decided to eat meat after becoming pressured when pregnant by my doctor and family and I got so sick from eating a tiny little piece of meat I took at as my inner guilt materializing as actually illness. That was 3 years ago and I'll never go back.

I have my rescue chickens , I have no problems eating my chickens eggs . Eating animals, never ever again after more then 25 years ... But you know, people have bodies that change if you can be the most humane and the most caring with your needs , I guess people can do it ethically . My chickens live a full life! They are happy and over 5 years old and produce eggs. I give most of them away but I do keep for me and it is what it is. And no after 40, it has nothing to do with social aspect, it's your body that needs something else.

I been vegan almost 8 yrs now and never even thought of killing animals nor eating them. The only thing I do crave is pan dulce because I have not found any good vegan pan dulce🖤that’s as good as the original.

Grow some grain and make your own seitan or TVP to get your meat fix? Investigating how pea or soy protein isolate is made would be cool.

I lived in an off grid community of about 50 people, seperate housholds and properties, and some raise their own aniamls, mostly chickens, but also pigs, and there is a cattle ranch with aprox 100 cows in the valley as well. We are/were a tight nit community and very self sufficient and self supporting has their own forestry land protection commitee and the elders used to have their own hippy commune and are very self proclaimed enviromentalists and have worked to protect the forests around there for over 4 decades, and been relatively successful at it...anyway we share a community chat room, and I my partner and I were the only vegetarian/vegan(she was vegi, i was vegan, she is very modest about it, and I was more activist) people in the community. I ended up having to leave the community a couple years ago when my partner and I broke up asit was her family land I was living on in that community but the community still keeps in touch and lets me stay apart of them via the chat and visits, but I posted that huge harvard study one day a while after the breakup-the one that demonstrated the most effiective way to help the world and environment was to go plant based, and several of the community members began to shun me, specificallty the eldest matriarch, and a few other elder matriarchs- one of them being a enviromental biologist- and it was really stunning and emotionally painful for me to get such a reaction from them. One of them even went out of her way to bring up old under the water baggage and try to hurt me with it... these are adults 20-30 years older than me (im almsot 40) that must have gotten really offended and triggered by their environmentalist morals being called into question as they all eat meat, and some slaughter their own animals as well, and all support the cattle ranch by buying their butcherings. It hurts, and is surprising to me that people would hold a grudge like that, and still do to this day over my sharing that study with everyone.. most of the others just ignored it (as I expected) but it must have really hit home for some of the women. Who are considered real role models in the community... no wonder in retrospect. .No one even said a word to me publicly or privately regarding the post directly. Just brought up old shit that I didnt even realize was a problem, and made it out to be a bigger deal than it even had to be. And the post was left forgotten in the anals. Just goes to show you the cognitive dissonance and hypocricy and inmaturity of people around this subject- that on the outside are looked at as such a "good and wholesome and loving community", which in many ways they actually are the best community of people i've ever come across... but once you are in it, you see everyone is still just human and has their grudges and opinions and bias, and even hatred. I was never really liked by probably half the people there anyway... Mostly because I struggled so much with my disease of addiction that I had no control over and they saw how it hurt my partner, someone they all love very much. Which I can understand, and that I hurt her still tears me up to this day- but considering their image is based so much upon compassion and understanding- it is certainly lacking in a lot of ways. If anyone I know reads this and recognizes anything.. I hope you can understand where Im coming from here. And that I would never name names and that I do understand the difficulty of cognitive dissonance. But I learned real community and love and loved and love these people... and it breaks my heart how much I've lost them along with my ex.. all because of my moral stance with animals and my mental illnesses that were out of my control yet I never stopped trying to work on. Sadly in a bittersweet way, it took the break up for me to finally get better... and im now grateful it had to end that way- all I regret it how much Ive hurt people along the way.

Off topic, but DAMN…these former “vegans” say “like” A LOT 🙄 Like, three, four like times in like one sentence 🙉 Also, yeah definitely giving off super desperate vibes to fit in.

Have you made a video on regenerative agriculture yet

not the shipping container house! nonono. i'm not fully vegan, not fully homested and one thing i can say with confidence: don't build homes from shipping containers. it doesn't work in most climate zones. it just doesn't. accept it. it is the way it is.

I use Yondu when I make my tofu. It’s delicious! You’ll love it

If you are craving then bite into a juicy beyond meat burger lol

Every 5th word they say is “like” 😂. It’s so hard to listen to do, do Americans not think it sounds uneducated to speak like that?

She looks bloody sick.

It's a capital sin to leave the cult, cause misery loves company.

I never understand how someone goes from being vegan for 10 years straight to eating everything. If they are feeling deprived because of how they are living and their diet is not healthy because it’s deficient and maybe they don’t have access to tofu and mock meats etc, they could always chose to start small, like incorporate some yogurt and eggs here and there, or something else. I have been in situations (traveling, living in certain places) where I didn’t have access to what I needed and chose to eat some cheese and yogurt, or occasionally bought something from the supermarket that had butter or milk powder. My point is, I never understand how someone rationalizes going from vegan to hunting…. even in moments where I have eaten something vegetarian instead of vegan, I didn’t stop caring about animals or the environment.

I must be the only off grid homesteader on the planet. It’s rare enough to be vegan in Southern OH. I can assure you that I do not crave meat.

A good response, thanks, except that instead of so easily accepting that 'if that's the kind of vegan diet they eat it's better to give the child eggs' why not advise them to incorporate beans, nuts and seeds in their own diet and the child's when he starts eating? Beans, peas, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds and peanuts could be grown on their land, they do grow in temperate climates. They could buy almonds and walnuts initially until their own nut trees begin to yield nuts, treating this as a compromise to accept as they accept leather shoes. What they really need is a half hour session with a plant-based-friedly-or-accepting dietician asking them that as a new mother she feels depleted, any suggestions. A prescription to eat legumes, nuts and seeds would probably follow and could do the trick. Instead of at one fell swoop accepting hunting deer, fishing and killing goats and presumably hens after they stop laying eggs. And yes, clearly they are drawn by the romance of living off the land in the way that their neighbours do (that need not be the only way) and yes they probably want to fit in socially. But a vegan since ten years to abandon veganism this way, surprising. Also surprising is their inappropriate choice of diet, in these days of KZfaq even if they don't like to read books.

I hate the way the guys talks. So many ‘like’s, and he seems so ingenue.

I would actually love a video on why off grid living is stupid!! I know it’s not strictly vegan related but I’d love to know your thoughts on that

That color is beautiful on you!

I'm eating yondu-covered grilled tofu in a sandwich right now! Recommended! It's a mexican-ish sandwich so I didn't want to use tamari/soy sauce and yondu is more neutral.

Veganism is not an identity, and I notice a lot of these ex-vegans based eveything in there life surrounding veganism. Maybe they need a other things in their lives to be more rounded? Also any diet that is exclusionary or super restrictive - raw or low fat or low oil - is not going to give you enough calories and therefore energy. This is not a vegan problem, but a orthorexia problem manifesting into a vegan diet. The simple solution is to eat a wide varity of food. This does nkt have to include meat at all in any way, you just have to be more aware other food opportunities.

"Cheese quesadilla" 😂🤦‍♀️ That's redundant and superfluous.

So she doesn't eat fat or protein, is amazed she craves those things and wants to go straight to eating them. Why. Clearly she doesn't consider fat and protein important macros? It's depressing how ignorant people are😢

But if one of the main reasons is not being able to live off-grid on only plants, why would he then say he intends to eat 99% vegan?

It's so weird how ceremonial she was about declaring herself not vegan anymore, although she hadn't eaten anything non vegan yet. I don't really care whether she's vegan or not but that's just so weird to me.

I crave peanut butter cookies like a mofo

The online homesteading community is wild. A lot of time you are two algorithm clicks away from the alt right pipeline