Why I HATE Linguistics

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Language Simp

Language Simp

Ай бұрын

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Thanks to David Allen Martin II, Gigachad German Coach Incarnate, for being the German speaker in the video! He's a great language learning coach who can be found @LinguaThor or @linguathor_fluency on Instagram.

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@bulba
@bulba Ай бұрын
i will master linguistics in a single thursday evening to spite you
@LanguageSimp
@LanguageSimp Ай бұрын
XDizzle
@zevelgamer.
@zevelgamer. Ай бұрын
Cool, I suggest you look at language Jones' guide.
@KritarthaSharma
@KritarthaSharma Ай бұрын
gl
@kumori_77
@kumori_77 Ай бұрын
don’t do it fizzarolli
@maca_atomica_animacoes
@maca_atomica_animacoes Ай бұрын
@@LanguageSimp olá LanguageSimp, i like your channel from Brazil 🇧🇷👍
@SKO_EN
@SKO_EN Ай бұрын
> hates on phonetics > proceeds to stream for hours constantly mispronouncing ы as уй
@sterlingdriggs8806
@sterlingdriggs8806 Ай бұрын
the worst part is, I went around telling people that Russian has a cool letter that's pronounced, OYYY
@Ins4n1ty_
@Ins4n1ty_ Ай бұрын
@@sterlingdriggs8806 is there a lmao, too?
@sjuns5159
@sjuns5159 Ай бұрын
Yeah he does say уй [uj], doesn't he? I was wondering, is that intentional, like part of the joke? Or is that actually him doing that? I mean I do think it's actually a bit of a diphthong, at least it never sounds like pure [ɨ] to me. Maybe a bit more like [ɯɨ̯], starting more in the back?
@klaus120
@klaus120 Ай бұрын
​@@sjuns5159 he definitely says it more in the back of the mouth, but just for the funny, because when he speaks russian seriously, he does pronounce "ы" correctly
@matt92hun
@matt92hun Ай бұрын
If only there were a phonetic description for that sound that you could just look up once and pronounce it correctly from then on.
@Lunamanka
@Lunamanka Ай бұрын
Skill issue. Only real chads can handle both linguistics and language learning
@Lunamanka
@Lunamanka Ай бұрын
Which in my opinion are linked
@thenightshadowyt9309
@thenightshadowyt9309 Ай бұрын
He's a real chad too. Just anyone who delves into language learning is a chad, this argument is pointless.
@Andra1150
@Andra1150 Ай бұрын
Milo from the Atlantis is a gigachad then
@user-si8ey8th9u
@user-si8ey8th9u Ай бұрын
true
@carefultreading
@carefultreading Ай бұрын
Linguistics makes language learning infinitely more fun (and often much easier as well)
@Yudentheepicboy
@Yudentheepicboy Ай бұрын
guys, he's telling you to roast his physical appearance, AND wearing a my chemical romance shirt? He's clearly depressed
@Bearywhite2
@Bearywhite2 Ай бұрын
His kink is shaming
@leiocera2433
@leiocera2433 Ай бұрын
He had washing day so thats the reason why he wore that shirt lmao
@Xanthas998
@Xanthas998 Ай бұрын
​@@leiocera2433 Wash day tomorrow. Nothing clean, right?
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 29 күн бұрын
I cannot believe that I am not the only one who cannot read the IPA 😂 lol - I see the IPA for Icelandic and Gothic and Norse words, and I don’t know what c is supposed to sound like, and it’s very confusing, because isn’t the k sound a k and isn’t the ch sound a tsh sound or something like that, and then I am thinking, what could c be then, and also, why is j used for an y / i sound when j is a normal j sound like the j in the French word je, and why is the z-based symbol used for the j sound when it isn’t a z-like sound at all lol, and why the y and the i have different symbols when it’s literally the same sound aka a full / normal i sound like the ý / j / í in Icelandic and Norse and the i in Spanish and the y in English, like, it’s literally the same exact sound, I don’t hear any other sound that wouldn’t be a normal i sound, so, the IPA symbols are very confusing! (But anyways, dative was created by the germanic dude that created the first language Proto European which is the first language with proper grammar and thousands of words that came with the first writing system, that inspired all other languages and writing systems, either directly or indirectly, but mostly indirectly, and the dative case also kept being used by every other dude that created a new language by modifying it or newer previous languages, as one automatically uses the dative case whenever there’s an indirect object or a third party in the sentence, even when the word endings are the same, and it didn’t appear naturally, and this environment was also designed by its creator!)
@leiocera2433
@leiocera2433 29 күн бұрын
@@FrozenMermaid666 ain’t reading allat
@panipaji
@panipaji Ай бұрын
Man I had it all backwards. I learned every language to learn IPA for my phonetics class this semester :/
@Kubarka
@Kubarka Ай бұрын
As a linguist major and a nerd, I agree and disagree at the same time. Learning linguistics to learn language is like learning physics to play basketball. If you want to have fun and prank La gente in the Taco Bell - you don’t need it. If you want to teach someone a language on a professional level and become Nerd the Final boss - then it’s for you.
@cubing7276
@cubing7276 Ай бұрын
learning linguistics*
@rare_hilf
@rare_hilf Ай бұрын
🤓​ @cubing7276 🤓 bro 🤓 you're 🤓 nerd 🤓
@yt_n-c0de-r
@yt_n-c0de-r Ай бұрын
Great analogy 🥰👍
@Kubarka
@Kubarka Ай бұрын
@@cubing7276thank you, fixed it
@weirdlanguageguy
@weirdlanguageguy Ай бұрын
Fellow linguistics major here! Completely agree
@user-nw2tn1vn9h
@user-nw2tn1vn9h Ай бұрын
There's nothing scientific about ordering orange chicken in flawless Chinese, but there's definitely a ton of science in studying how Chinese speakers order their orange chicken.
@spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
@spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace Ай бұрын
yes
@thequeertelope7941
@thequeertelope7941 25 күн бұрын
oui
@togekiss09
@togekiss09 25 күн бұрын
Si
@user-fn4gp9kh1l
@user-fn4gp9kh1l 25 күн бұрын
shi de
@sopa7maruchan
@sopa7maruchan 22 күн бұрын
Ja
@Naahuarem
@Naahuarem Ай бұрын
Linguistics is kind of like biology, its just for extreme accuracy but you dont need to be a biologist to know how to breath or the fact that drinking water keeps you alive
@etruscanetwork
@etruscanetwork Ай бұрын
Linguistics = Learning about languages instead of actually learning how to speak the language Biology = Learning about life instead of actually living
@niwa_s
@niwa_s 28 күн бұрын
It provides tools for describing languages in extreme detail, but a lot of the time it doesn't actually apply them in a way that accurately reflects real world language use. Another reason to be careful when diving into the linguistics of a second language you're learning; you may pointlessly second-guess intuition you're developing through engagement with native speakers because "the science" disagrees with it.
@bessux1995
@bessux1995 18 күн бұрын
@@niwa_s That's a made-up problem you just invented in your head. It never happens.
@felipevasconcelos6736
@felipevasconcelos6736 13 күн бұрын
@@niwa_s for languages that have been extensively studied, like English, Spanish, Japanese, French, Arabic (some varieties), Chinese (some varieties), German, Russian, etc. your intuition as a learner is much less likely to align with what native speakers do than the current science. Note that I’m not talking about textbooks, full of artificial rules and outdated ones. I’m talking about what actual modern linguistics has described, which’s the rules native speakers follow subconsciously. Like how English speakers can reduce the vowel in “can” to schwa, but not the vowel in “can’t”, but they can drop the final t in “can’t”.
@alenunya
@alenunya Ай бұрын
Where are my linguistics and grammar charts enjoyers at? Bring it in 🖐️
@yipperson2974
@yipperson2974 Ай бұрын
🤚
@laskdjf3880
@laskdjf3880 29 күн бұрын
@craftswithjavy3428
@craftswithjavy3428 29 күн бұрын
🤚
@MsMimo07
@MsMimo07 29 күн бұрын
Here🙋🏼‍♂️ But I also hate phonetics😅
@Krincel_69
@Krincel_69 28 күн бұрын
🤚
@davidp.7620
@davidp.7620 Ай бұрын
Wait, you're telling me that an academic discipline that was never intended to have an application to language learning does indeed have no application to learning languages? Who would have thought?
@Naahuarem
@Naahuarem Ай бұрын
You have my respect
@jacobfernandes7213
@jacobfernandes7213 Ай бұрын
seriously… its almost like ipa was meant as a descriptive tool, not as a prescriptive way of helping you “master a native accent”
@GasparPelaez
@GasparPelaez Ай бұрын
actually, for this video, I´ll unsuscribe to this channel. He isn´t a gigachad more, he just hasn´t the necessary abstraction skills
@Buzenbazen
@Buzenbazen Ай бұрын
@@GasparPelaez and you hasn't the proper english skills
@GasparPelaez
@GasparPelaez Ай бұрын
@@Buzenbazen I have the skill of create the verb desuscribe and use it bad
@EstenOctavian
@EstenOctavian Ай бұрын
This is probably LanguageSimp's most serious video
@jelqingmybwc
@jelqingmybwc 9 күн бұрын
And likely his worst video yet tbh.
@legacywolf443
@legacywolf443 Ай бұрын
I respect anyone of this opinion :3 I couldn't disagree more tho :3 My language teachers at school made learning way too hard by never talking about linguistics at all, solely relying on "absorbing". Once I got my hands on a German book that contained grammatical explanations, it all suddenly made sense and I finally knew how to speak correctly
@el-jayenglish9548
@el-jayenglish9548 Ай бұрын
Hello. So much to consider.
@luxraider5384
@luxraider5384 Ай бұрын
well grammatical explanations aren't exactly linguistics.
@kianpfannenstiel
@kianpfannenstiel Ай бұрын
​@@luxraider5384well, if they describe the language's rules that's step 1 of linguistics. If it uses linguistic terminology that's linguistics
@luxraider5384
@luxraider5384 Ай бұрын
@@kianpfannenstiel not really, a lot of grammatical rules aren't intuitive and need actual explanation. Also our brains aren't as spongy as toddlers
@Zephiias
@Zephiias Ай бұрын
I agree. Especially if you want to learn a Language in and out, you need theory. Its more of a help then anything else
@ziggystardog
@ziggystardog Ай бұрын
I’ve been drinking in the IPA for years and it hasn’t harmed me yet
@thebeebz9511
@thebeebz9511 Ай бұрын
Learning phonetics is like learning the names of colors. Sure it helps to pick up the basics, but it's not the end of the world if you don't know the difference between magenta and fuscia.
@pog-poggers5290
@pog-poggers5290 Ай бұрын
Precisely.
@kakahass8845
@kakahass8845 Ай бұрын
Unless one of your goals is to have perfect pronunciation.
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 29 күн бұрын
My pronunciation is perfect, and I cannot read the IPA to save my life, and children don’t know the IPA either when learning how to speak the first language that they are made to learn, and are just imitating the exact sounds that they hear - besides, my target languages are only the pretty languages, including the prettiest languages ever Norse / Gothic / Icelandic / Faroese / Dutch / Norwegian / Danish / Welsh / Breton / Cornish which are as pretty as English, and these languages and my other target languages don’t have any of those odd sounds that sound like coughing or other funny sounds, so they are usually the same sounds that I am already used to, including the coolest sounds and the other normal sounds that are naturally easy to make by imitating the sounds one hears!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 29 күн бұрын
To be honest, having a perfect pronunciation is more about the accent, not really about knowing the IPA, for example, one may know all the sounds in German very well and one may even know the IPA, but one is still not going to sound native in German if one isn’t native speaker level, because German has one of the accents that are the hardest to imitate, having a category 2 accent and pronunciation, so one must practice a lot and learn each word automatically, plus it takes years to fully develop a natural native German accent - however, in languages such as English / Icelandic / Norse / Gothic / Dutch it is naturally easy to sound native as these languages have the accents that are the easiest to imitate and the easiest category 1 pronunciation, so I could sound native in Icelandic even as a beginner, for example, but now I am advanced level!
@thebeebz9511
@thebeebz9511 29 күн бұрын
@@FrozenMermaid666 perfect pronunciation is subjective depending on regional dialect. If you took your perfect Danish pronounciation (which 💯 does sound like coughing BTW) to Skåne, and applied it to Swedish, your pronunciation would be understood a lot better than if you took the same pronunciation up north, lol.
@vanek_9397
@vanek_9397 Ай бұрын
Linguistics and actual language learning are often just two different things. Both may be fun but shouldn't get mixed up IMAO
@navisnau3140
@navisnau3140 Ай бұрын
You only need to learn IPA symbols relevant to your target language not the whole of it
@Nikola_M
@Nikola_M Ай бұрын
He specifically needs to learn ɨ (ы)
@navisnau3140
@navisnau3140 Ай бұрын
@@Nikola_M Yes, and also ʕ and ħ for ع and ح respectively.
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 Ай бұрын
​@@Nikola_M /uj/
@DoughBrain
@DoughBrain Ай бұрын
I’ve always run into the opposite problem where I only ever run into people who want to rehearse dialogue. It’s kinda lonely. I wanna learn a language and talk about phonetics. 😢
@zevelgamer.
@zevelgamer. Ай бұрын
Language Jones not gonna be happy with that one 😮
@LanguageSimp
@LanguageSimp Ай бұрын
@el-jayenglish9548
@el-jayenglish9548 Ай бұрын
That was the top comment on my screen. LoL
@aurignyfrench9780
@aurignyfrench9780 Ай бұрын
Can't spell linguisticks without ick 🔥😍
@alyss_aq
@alyss_aq Ай бұрын
This comment bothers me sm cus of the fact there is no 'k' in linguistics 😭
@kumori_77
@kumori_77 Ай бұрын
@@alyss_aq omg no way sherlock 😱😱😱😱 lol
@alyss_aq
@alyss_aq Ай бұрын
@@kumori_77 I just said it bothers me, I wasn't trying to sound like a smartass bruh
@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Ай бұрын
You also can't spell it without "stick". What exactly is a "lingui stick"?
@matt92hun
@matt92hun Ай бұрын
@@alyss_aq It's funny, because linguistics are descriptive, therefore if they consistently spells it like that along with other people, it's a valid spelling.
@killirito
@killirito Ай бұрын
I like learning linguistics things, especially when it tells me about the history of my language and how languages develop and differentiate between themselves. Learning that William is the same name as Guilherme, João is Ruan, and that kind of thing is really cool for me. Realizing the influence of other languages on my mother language (Portuguese), knowing that "Dona", to refer to a woman because it came from Italian, or that "garçom" is a term that came from the French, but that remained only in the context of a restaurant to refer to the boy who works serving customers and that instead of using "fille", which is the equivalent term for a girl that serves customers in a restaurant, we use the French feminine declension in the context of restaurants in Brazil in the term "garçom", so, instead of "fille" to refer for this waiter, we use "garçonette". I really like learning these things, I understand better my country, my culture and that stuff
@howifitwouldbeantani
@howifitwouldbeantani Ай бұрын
Linguistics is not something that someone says you must study to learn a language. Who studies linguistics sometimes know just one or two languages, it is not connected with language learning. Obviusly if you know linguistics you could have less problems while learning a language and viceversa, but nobody wants you to learn "linguistics" in order to learn a language.
@PolyglotMouse
@PolyglotMouse Ай бұрын
Did somebody call my name? Now I have to make a "Why I Love Linguistics"
@KritarthaSharma
@KritarthaSharma Ай бұрын
W
@LanguageSimp
@LanguageSimp Ай бұрын
I have seen your videos. I'll wait for the rebuttal
@Zakariyathaking
@Zakariyathaking Ай бұрын
@polyglotmouse u got a sub for that
@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken.
@_WhyIsEveryHandleTaken. Ай бұрын
12 mins ago lolz
@TheAmateurLinguist
@TheAmateurLinguist Ай бұрын
Linguistics is kinda epic
@amOhad131
@amOhad131 Ай бұрын
3:53 You forgot to use the voiced dental or alveolar plosive at the end of the word "And" so your are clearly not an English speaker.
@LanguageSimp
@LanguageSimp Ай бұрын
I'm punching the air
@luxraider5384
@luxraider5384 Ай бұрын
he's an american speaker, that's why
@bubbletea695
@bubbletea695 Ай бұрын
erm actually he pronounced it with a constrained audible release, also known as applosivity, denoted by the symbol: ◌̚
@DoNotChooseBlank
@DoNotChooseBlank Ай бұрын
@@LanguageSimp the first time I have seen a comment favorite his own comment
@hcholm
@hcholm Ай бұрын
The problem with learning pronunciation only by ear is that many people's ears aren't that well tuned to picking up sounds in foreign languages. Learning phonetics and phonology can be of great help to improve your ears' tuning. It's not just theory. It has certainly helped me a lot, especially when listening for sound differences (phonemes) that don't exist in my native Norwegian, but are crucial in a target language. For instance, I could quickly be aware of the differences between open and closed e and o in Italian and how the various Polish fricatives work. Instead of spending ages not being aware of that and being misunderstood because of the confusion I caused, I could move on to learning vocabulary and other parts of the language, being confident that my pronunciation was at least OK. It's odd to see how awful pronunciation many polyglots have. That includes Language Simp's pronunciation of the Russian ы, which ... leaves a lot to be desired. Good pronunciation isn't just about showing off, it's about getting understood easily. In the worst case, bad pronunciation will cause misunderstandings. Phonetics isn't that difficult to learn, and well worth the effort, because you can apply what you know to any language.
@groszek1451
@groszek1451 Ай бұрын
👏
@dodolulupepe
@dodolulupepe Ай бұрын
He pronounces that Russian letter fine when speaking Russian, the uy pronunciation is a joke
@hcholm
@hcholm 29 күн бұрын
@@dodolulupepe OK. It's sometimes hard to tell if he's joking or not. This whole video could be a joke for all I know. Using irony online is difficult.
@chrolka6255
@chrolka6255 26 күн бұрын
I learnt IPA when studying English without even trying. Whenever I looked up a word in a dictionary, I saw its phonetic transcription, and - knowing how the word was pronounced - I inferred the sounds represented by the characters. Now knowing IPA helps me a lot with my French because I can revise words in Anki without having to listen to them.
@dumbalek6001
@dumbalek6001 Ай бұрын
"I hate natural sciences, it didn't help me at my holiday trip in Thailand at all"
@fauxhex96
@fauxhex96 Ай бұрын
youtubers try not to be anti intellectual challenge (impossible)
@utubinator
@utubinator Ай бұрын
Not really? Hes not sgainst the feild of study. He isbatainst people who want to learn languages from getting caught up in linguistics instead of jsut leanring the language
@fauxhex96
@fauxhex96 Ай бұрын
@@utubinator go off king
@rare_hilf
@rare_hilf Ай бұрын
​@@utubinator no no no let him cook
@bessux1995
@bessux1995 18 күн бұрын
@yazovskij Go on, tell us what he's satirizing. Should be easy for you since you're so smart.
@Luna________
@Luna________ 9 күн бұрын
This has nothing to do with being anti intellectual. What he says is actually pretty in line with language learning pedagogy, the scientific field that actually is about learning languages.
@namelessbeast4868
@namelessbeast4868 Ай бұрын
I thought your legal name was Language Simp?! Who the frick is Earl?
@artiomboyko
@artiomboyko 28 күн бұрын
It’s just a random name for the sketch. It must be…
@mattbellal
@mattbellal 6 күн бұрын
​@@artiomboyko his real name is Joshua according to Google
@langdinish
@langdinish 5 күн бұрын
"My name is Earl" is the name of an American show
@henleeh2987
@henleeh2987 Ай бұрын
So I agree that Linguistics is not for everyone. But it took me 3 hours one night to learn the whole IPA, and now approaching new languages comes easy for me, since I can just quickly learn the sounds and be on my way. It’s supposed to be a resource not a hindrance. But not all resources will help everyone.
@AmeDayo
@AmeDayo Ай бұрын
Hi, the feeling is mutual. We actual linguists hate polyglots. Hate the player and the game. Every time I tell someone I study linguists they ask "How many languages do you know?" as if I need to be a polyglot to be a linguist. You don't need to study linguistics to be a polyglot and vice versa. The answer is 4 btw, none fluent.
@artiomboyko
@artiomboyko 28 күн бұрын
Lol, so true - Wow, linguistics? How many languages do you speak? - You know, you don’t need to learn a ton of languages to study linguistics because you are studying the structures and you can use special scientific descriptions and you can do research on languages you know nothing about and blablabla… But. I speak 5~7 languages, if you are still wondering
@veronicahsidwell
@veronicahsidwell Ай бұрын
Okay but I refuse to believe that your name is Earl
@Orange-ti4bh
@Orange-ti4bh 26 күн бұрын
His name has isn’t earl, it’s actually language simp.
@kianpfannenstiel
@kianpfannenstiel Ай бұрын
For the most part you're pretty much right, but it's kind of like being right when you say night is darker than day. It's basically a non-statement, because that's like the defining feature of night. My extra pedantic corrections are in a response to this comment, it's already long enough. So the thing is not 1 single actual linguist will tell you you need to memorize the entire ipa chart, vowels or no, except when you're taking a college or higher phonetics class. Most of us don't memorize the whole thing and even fewer can say all the different sounds. Mind you, ipa is flawed, but it's been created for a specific purpose, and it more or less gets the job done. It's like seeing a woodworker with a highly specific jig and getting upset at him because the jig isn't used for your table or chair or what have you, even though he never told you to use it for a table or chair or what have you. Also, it is a very valuable thing to know the names of the verb tenses if you're learning in a group or with an instructor. It enables the meta-language that can be used to talk about mistakes being made. For self study it's also useful if you're working out of a book or something, but otherwise you should be fine without it. I have no idea what your complaint regarding case was, so I can't really address it, but I feel like you were wrong.
@kianpfannenstiel
@kianpfannenstiel Ай бұрын
Like everything, knowing ipa for language learning is a useful tool, but only bother with the sounds of your target language and use them specifically for meta discussion of the pronunciation. Don't worry about being perfectly accurate with pronunciation, it's just a tool, not a rule. Phonetics is the study of how we make sounds/what sounds we make generally. Phonology is the study of how we think about sounds and what sounds we make in certain contexts. I personally think phonology is fake, but if you're talking about phonotactics (contextual sound change), you're talking phonology. The names of the characters in ipa are not the same names as the sounds. You were describing sound names (central/lateral, voicing, place, nasal/oral, manner; feel free to drop what's redundant) and letter names. For example, "ŋ" represents the central voiced velar nasal stop (nasal stops are sometimes just called nasals, so in english you'd typically call this the velar nasal), but the character's name is engma (pronounced approximately /ɛŋmə/ or /eŋmə/, which is basically the way you want to say it).
@Cortov
@Cortov Ай бұрын
As a SL English speaker, IPA helped me a lot after I could understand most conversational material with ease, because it made it easier to distinguish sounds absent in my native language, as well as having confirmation that phones that sounded identical to those in my native language were indeed the same. But when starting to learn French, being too neurotic about pronunciation has slowed me down and hampered my motivation. My advice would be to study some linguistic concepts by the measure of your own curiosity only after you feel comfortable with the language. Even more so if you're already acquainted with linguistic jargon, it'll be a lot easier after you've built an intuition for how the language behaves. Beyond language learning, linguistics is just a ton of fun too.
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 Ай бұрын
Yes, English is my first language, but I can't imagine how hard it would be to learn English as a second language without IPA, because: (1) English has so many freaking vowels (I didn't even realize how many until I learned the IPA symbols); and (2) English spelling is chaos, so you need IPA for your pronunciation dictionary. I mean, I could see myself learning a language like Japanese (with a relatively small sound inventory + easy spelling) without needing to use IPA that much (if I didn't want to), but it seems to me like it would be very useful for a language like English.
@arthurgabriel2625
@arthurgabriel2625 Ай бұрын
​@@robertjenkins6132And english has a lot of pseudo homophones. For example, eyes and ice are not pronounced the same, but for someone that's not experienced with english's phonetics both will sound the same, even though they really aren't.
@derpauleglot9772
@derpauleglot9772 Ай бұрын
@@robertjenkins6132 English and Japanese are somewhat extreme examples, actually^^ Someone tried to estimate the number of distinct syllables in the 20k most common words. I'll include German, French and Spanish as a reference: Japanese: 643 (lowest among the languages they examined) Spanish: 2778 French: 2949 German: 5100 English: 6949 (highest) Getting good at English pronunciation must be quite a challenge for a native speaker of Japanese. Different writing system with chaotic spelling, tons of new sounds and syllables. I mean, I found it difficult and my native language is German^^
@zeitxgeist
@zeitxgeist 29 күн бұрын
@@derpauleglot9772 even our language wants foreigner to stay out. lol.
@PentaroTomohiro
@PentaroTomohiro 29 күн бұрын
I'm an English learner and have been kind of familiar with the IPA and often find it useful but also find the phonetic spelling thingy, which is supposed to be a phonetically accurate way of spelling words, that Google has introduced these days useful. You can see them if you google like "'[word] pronunciation" although it doesn't work for some words for some reason. Sometimes I question the way Google interprets the pronunciation, for example, the short 'i' sound is sometimes spelled with 'uh' like the way they spell the schwa sound. But what was an eye-opener for me is the fact that they spell words like "miracle" differently for American English and British English. In fact, they spell it "mi-ruh-kl" for British English and "mee-ruh-kl" for American English. It's spelled /ˈmɪr.ə.kəl/ in the phonetic alphabet used by Cambridge Dictionary for both British and American English but if I pay enough attention while listening, I can hear the difference so... yeah. Apology for the wall of text.
@abrvalg321
@abrvalg321 Ай бұрын
You are pronouncing "нет" like "ньет". Stop it.
@TheEnderCycloneEnd
@TheEnderCycloneEnd 24 күн бұрын
ньет
@user-oy6iz3jr9c
@user-oy6iz3jr9c 23 күн бұрын
Ньет
@kruassamka
@kruassamka 19 күн бұрын
nya
@genekisayan6564
@genekisayan6564 18 күн бұрын
Более как неът которым евляеться ещё хуже 😢
@-mr.koekto
@-mr.koekto 17 күн бұрын
Ньет, Молотов! Ньет, Молотов! А вообще нужно понимать, что он и так инвалид из-за русской фонетики, пора оставить его в покое.
@matthewheald8964
@matthewheald8964 Ай бұрын
I can’t give up the IPA 😭😭😭 It’s too precious. My precious. Ash schwa durbatulûk, ash schwa gimbatul, ash schwa thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 Ай бұрын
What's that gibberish?
@matthewheald8964
@matthewheald8964 Ай бұрын
@@WhizzKid2012 it’s from LOTR; the original quote is “ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul”. Look it up.
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 Ай бұрын
@@matthewheald8964 is that lord of the rings?
@matthewheald8964
@matthewheald8964 Ай бұрын
@@WhizzKid2012 yes
@incognito6751
@incognito6751 29 күн бұрын
"One schwa to rule them all, one schwa to find them. One schwa to bring them all and in the darkness bind them" 🔥✍️
@Goebschae
@Goebschae Ай бұрын
i really like the IPA. i wouldn't bother studying it but i like it to look up proper pronounciation occasionally. sure, a language is not exactly defined by its pronounciation but people will get different ideas about you depending on your pronounciation and i enjoy switching between fluent native and foreigner with accent at will
@lexiisbritish9894
@lexiisbritish9894 Ай бұрын
Why is no one talking about how he kept saying earl and not language simp 😭
@MysticEagle52
@MysticEagle52 Ай бұрын
ikr
@no_
@no_ Ай бұрын
It's the opposite for me, linguistics is what got me interested in learning languages and it makes learning easier and more interesting for me. But yeah anyone who trys to claim that phonetics are important to learning languages is absolutely fucking with you
@yipperson2974
@yipperson2974 Ай бұрын
here here
@Kitsu_Worm
@Kitsu_Worm Ай бұрын
It is, at least in target language. if it not for IPA I wouldn't pronouced 'th' precisely.
@no_
@no_ 29 күн бұрын
@@Kitsu_Worm that's the thing, the IPA is very helpful to learning pronunciation and I'm glad it helped you, but that's all it is, a helpful tool, other than that it's completely optional and if it makes learning feel more intimidating to beginners then they shouldn't feel pressured to learn it.
@Kitsu_Worm
@Kitsu_Worm 28 күн бұрын
@@no_ yea, if you're not learning linguistics or making conlang. just skip to important part honestly.
@bessux1995
@bessux1995 18 күн бұрын
@@no_ If someone is "intimidated" by the IPA, then they weren't serious about wanting to learn anything in the first place. The only thing you need to study are the sounds relevant to your target language, which is usually a third of the IPA. That's like being intimidated of learning a new alphabet. How is learning the IPA any different than an English speaker learning cyrillic?
@mariobot128
@mariobot128 Ай бұрын
6:10 "Wesh la street monsieur bonsoir" as a frenchman this is incredibly funny xD
@kirikourobloxgaming8841
@kirikourobloxgaming8841 20 күн бұрын
“I don’t know what is morphology and semantics” *gets an ad*
@Trilingual-yw9br
@Trilingual-yw9br Ай бұрын
We need to see Language Simp learning Assembly and speaking it to us 🗣️
@hubb8049
@hubb8049 Ай бұрын
Sure, but the IPA helped me in finally pronouncing ع correctly, as well as ص ض ط ظ
@teflonowo
@teflonowo Ай бұрын
Learning a new language like a: Native speaker: 😃 Linguist: 💀
@Aroids101
@Aroids101 29 күн бұрын
Thank you so so much for making this video! I completely agree. I’ve fallen way too deep down the linguistics rabbit hole. And I think it’s gonna take me much time to save myself and climb out. Trying to fit natural language which is infinitely nuanced into neat and tidy analytical categories is highly impractical. I appreciate you immensely for spreading this soteriological doctrine of language learning!!
@robinrehlinghaus1944
@robinrehlinghaus1944 Ай бұрын
I needed this, thank you
@DungeonNumber5
@DungeonNumber5 Ай бұрын
My little child just said "uyi" for the first time блять.
@iberius9937
@iberius9937 Ай бұрын
One of your best and funniest videos. A gem for both linguists and aspiring polyglots!
@thescorpion575
@thescorpion575 11 күн бұрын
I just discovered this channel and immediately subbed, I'm only getting now into language learning and when you said you know 50 languages my inspiration levels got to 100, I have a long way to go
@laskdjf3880
@laskdjf3880 29 күн бұрын
tbf learning the basics of ipa and using anki to memorise the most important parts takes at most a day. From there you can apply it to every language. You just type in the word you want to know the transcription for into wiktionary and it likely gives you it back. You then read it aloud and you get a pretty decent approximation👍
@Yvelluap
@Yvelluap Ай бұрын
2:59 as somebody who has memorized the ipa because i have no friends this gave me at least 3.5 cardiovascular diseases, thanks
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 Ай бұрын
I usually just watch a lot of content in the language I want to learn, but I find it helpful to know at least the basic terms so I can look up details if I'm confused about something.
@FellaLenny
@FellaLenny 20 күн бұрын
Loved this language review! ❤You should do Danish next :D
@smittoria
@smittoria Ай бұрын
If you were serious about language learning you'd know IPA well by heart so you could learn a new language's phonology way faster
@Nikola_M
@Nikola_M Ай бұрын
ы
@irp3ex
@irp3ex Ай бұрын
@@Nikola_M i cant tell if you sent ы as an example of what the comment is talking about or as a way to say "lol" (which is a pretty common use of it, at least in my friend group)
@Nikola_M
@Nikola_M Ай бұрын
@@irp3ex as an example
@Ro99
@Ro99 Ай бұрын
Honestly I disagree with this video for two reasons: I’m a massive pretentious wanker but more importantly I always want (need?) to understand WHY something is to actually get my head around a concept. It’s just how I work and it makes me feel much more confident manipulating things than what feels like trying to use a massive list of memorised phrases (I know that’s not really what you’re doing but it feels like that to me). Your point is completely valid and considering you are far better at speaking and learning languages than me you’re probably more correct but that’s just how I work. I also like technical things and science so maybe that helps.
@southernselkuplanguage5600
@southernselkuplanguage5600 24 күн бұрын
My deepest thanks to you for this video👍👍👍
@metalsabatico
@metalsabatico Ай бұрын
I appreciate this level of memery. Same as with your last video. Thanks.
@olgarudn9753
@olgarudn9753 Ай бұрын
О, мне нравится лингвистика, я даже и не знала про IPA, теперь ознакомлюсь!
@brancozfj
@brancozfj Ай бұрын
So cool that you have a shirt written "My Chemical BROmance!" Who is the lucky man?
@lavender_verandah
@lavender_verandah Ай бұрын
As a previous linguistic student who is now a postgrad in translation studies, I agree with every single word you utter in this video with passion
@caioteodoro3406
@caioteodoro3406 27 күн бұрын
A foto com a bandeiro do Brasil ficou sensacional e eu também acho incrível quando você fala minha língua (português). Parabens pelo trabalho, irmão 😂
@popkinbobkin
@popkinbobkin Ай бұрын
"dive into the language!" - *proceeds to show a wiki page on George Bush in Russian* ah, a true language conossuer
@marcusaurelius4941
@marcusaurelius4941 Ай бұрын
5:23 historically inaccurate representation of an IPA nerd, a true IPA nerd would know not to aspirate his k there!
@Josh-ht7ci
@Josh-ht7ci Ай бұрын
As a fellow linguistics student I have to say I am very much dissapointet in you Mr. L. Simp. Linguistics is about being descriptive and not prescriptive so if you encounter someone who corrects you while learning a language that person is not welcomed in the secret organization of Linguistic S-Tier Males. And sorry to say but I love learning a language in itself and all about it AT THE SAME TIME that's how Alpha we are. I guess there's a reason your name contains an L 😔
@dilmukhanov
@dilmukhanov Ай бұрын
Hello man! I learn English and I absolutely agree with your point of view😂 I wait for you in Kazakhstan 🇰🇿
@start9749
@start9749 Ай бұрын
I absolutely келісемін with you
@dilmukhanov
@dilmukhanov Ай бұрын
@@start9749 oh my құдай, this is тамырым)
@gringoenespanol
@gringoenespanol Ай бұрын
I think you meant "Why I hate *studying* linguistics". If you hated linguistics as a whole then you would also hate acquiring new languages, since language acquisition falls under the category of linguistics.
@pietroborgesparri
@pietroborgesparri Ай бұрын
4:10 I saw a video of Steve talking about this, how impressive it is to see someone that has a strong accent, speaking perfect english After that moment I stopped caring so much about my accent in english
@spaghettiking653
@spaghettiking653 Ай бұрын
True that learning linguistics is a distraction from actually learning a language, but it does actually help tbh.
@l3afman
@l3afman 28 күн бұрын
idk man, this video could have been a useful way to give new language learners a heads up that the linguistics rabbithole is an easy one to fall down, but instead it was just a mildly annoying rant about a discipline you personally don't find interesting
@uselessvad2444
@uselessvad2444 Ай бұрын
I just had an amazing time explaining to a streamer on twitch what the Russian word 'Внимание' means. She was playing an old video game where every NPC speaks Russian and she was wondering what it meant, so I saved the day. You're welcome, Kate, it was fun chatting with you in my broken English
@rare_hilf
@rare_hilf Ай бұрын
But what does it have to do with linguistics? I really didn't get that one
@user-wo5bb3co1x
@user-wo5bb3co1x Ай бұрын
​@@rare_hilfsemantics is an area of linguistics concerned with the meanings of words. The russian word "Vnimaniye" will usually be translated as "Attention" but has a different meaning than the English analog. The differences in meanings between words are studied by semantics
@NK6only
@NK6only 29 күн бұрын
​@@user-wo5bb3co1xдля того, чтобы этот пример имел хоть какой-то смысл, слову нужен контекст
@Cakepop34
@Cakepop34 6 күн бұрын
Lol there was an ad for a language learning app before this vid
@notabelincoln5501
@notabelincoln5501 2 күн бұрын
every day i wait for a new language simp video to drop
@demo2910
@demo2910 Ай бұрын
it's been 6 years
@Zakariyathaking
@Zakariyathaking Ай бұрын
I may be linguist but never an esperantist that’s too far
@dylanestrada5429
@dylanestrada5429 25 күн бұрын
So ive taken what you said and i have been not focusing on the all the grammar stuff and let that come naturally by just practicing and just exposong myself to as much russian tv/entertainment and hirribly attempted conversations. But my question right now is would watching shows with subtitles be a waste of time ? Should i just turn them off and attempt to read the room? Plz halp
@trevor5666
@trevor5666 28 күн бұрын
I find IPA so useful. The confidence I had in my French pronunciation before really delving deep into grammar and vocabulary building really made me more confident when I finally got to the speaking part. And that shouldn’t be underestimated. Same with Spanish. People think Spanish is totally phonetic. But there are a lot of consonant sounds that make distinctly different sounds depending on the context, and without ipa, zeroing in on which adjustments to make in my pronunciation would have been more tedious. Finally, some languages are more phonetically complex. And forgoing ipa and phonetics study could genuinely hamper your intelligibility to native speakers. There are many ways to do this in French. And a magnitude more in Chinese. One should not be speaking a tonal language without a little bit of IPA.
@Joe-ur2tg
@Joe-ur2tg Ай бұрын
aɪ ˈfʌkɪŋ heɪt lɪŋˈɡwɪstɪks
@doomood
@doomood Ай бұрын
I love learning languages and also linguistics, but I don't use linguistics to learn the language lol
@tuluppampam
@tuluppampam Ай бұрын
Fun fact about the vowel chart: it's obsolete and really has always been. A good analysis would use the newer weirder triangular chart.
@user-wv3pp3bd9n
@user-wv3pp3bd9n 2 күн бұрын
Just curious about your guys' experiences: what is the method you use to learn a language. I personally use the method called "Languages by playlists" by Alexander Bebris.
@TheWorldIsDumb
@TheWorldIsDumb Ай бұрын
His roasts sounded like he is Lowkey asking us the be linguists.
@green3monster174
@green3monster174 Ай бұрын
3:57 абракадабра аляказам блять
@kahpyvara
@kahpyvara Ай бұрын
not the first time i've disagreed with you. good video! I agree that beginners shouldn't care about pronunciation/IPA at all, but I love to improve my accent once I've mastered a language which is exactly what i'm doing right now with english
@Nehauon
@Nehauon 29 күн бұрын
I get this video, and yesterday my Spanish teacher was suggesting I take up a similar job, I swear, there are no coincidences
@ikbintom
@ikbintom Ай бұрын
As someone with a Master's degree in Linguistics (with Honors), I'd say you're spot on. I only speak 6 languages and about all the others, I only know tons of "fun facts" that nobody actually wants to hear. It sucks. Only point of criticism on your video is that the step after communism in the linguistics pipeline is actually getting a job and paying to follow a language course to finally learn Spanish (a real language). By the way - most linguists are not into phonetics. That's because phonetics really isn't much more than the first impression you get when you hear a language but don't understand anything yet. Enthusiast amateur nerds and undergraduate linguistics students tend to hyperfixate on this superficial part of language, because they're they're irrationally insecure about their pronunciation and also often either just too lazy, too unmotivated or too dumb to do the in-depth real hard work of actually learning the language. (jk nobody is too dumb; languages are so easy that even babies can learn them) Sorry for my bad English, it's my third language
@nicolaschaij199
@nicolaschaij199 Ай бұрын
Mostly agree! One exception is to refine things. Once I was already mostly fluent in Spanish, I noticed certain words and sounds were still messing me up and looked up the IPA for just those specific sounds and stopped getting tongue tied
@dvalenn
@dvalenn Ай бұрын
That's true, linguistics itself might not be an efficient way to learn a language, but it can be helpful tho. When I was learning English, seeing phonetic symbols in Google Translate helped me realize there were sounds that I didn't know, seeing them in several words made me recognize them and their sound. So you don't have to focus on learning the whole phonetic alphabet but having some phonetic symbols alongside the word can be useful.
@ZoveRen
@ZoveRen Ай бұрын
3:31 RIP _Дд_ 😢
@Mintybutter
@Mintybutter Ай бұрын
who speaks more than 3 languages 👇
@Austin-ih7ju
@Austin-ih7ju Ай бұрын
Me 4
@brunoboy1143
@brunoboy1143 Ай бұрын
depending on what you consider speaking I would say me 4
@luxraider5384
@luxraider5384 Ай бұрын
here
@Armistice023
@Armistice023 Ай бұрын
Native English, A1 Spanish, low A1 German (have forgotten a lot), and learning Hungarian. Gave up on Korean after a few months
@rereremasutaa
@rereremasutaa Ай бұрын
only 4:(
@olegshevchenko5869
@olegshevchenko5869 Ай бұрын
Funny enough, linguistics was something I got into AFTER having learned a couple of foreign languages. At first I was just looking up etymologies of words and started noticing that a lot of words from the languages that I've learned turned out to have the same origin, and I don't mean just some random international loanwords - I'm talking about thousands of years of separate histories that finally converge at some distant point in the past because the languages themselves are related. Also, trying to improve my pronounciation I started reading a lot about phonetics and was surprised to learn that many features in my pronunciation of a foreign language already exist in native speaker. At some point those two interests themselves converged together in studying Historical Linguistics and then Linguistics in general. Now it's one of my favorite hobbies. So yeah, linguistics is something you enjoy once you have some background in a number of languages, not vice versa. Although I must say it wouldn't hurt to talka bit more the scientific side of languages, e.g. not to drill "correct" pronunciations of words into kids as if when you make a mistake in your own language it means you have a Down syndrome or something. Like for real, if I got a penny everytime people say I must be poorly educated because I pronounce a word "incorrectly" in a casual conversation, I'd be rich. This has to stop, and a bit of learning what linguistics REALLY is might help with that.
@kobel4570
@kobel4570 29 күн бұрын
I really agree with you man!
@SylveonSimp
@SylveonSimp Ай бұрын
my two tips for learning: watching movies or tv with subtitles of your target language and playing video games in your target language
@aeroplan84
@aeroplan84 Ай бұрын
Чётко. Но всё-таки, Майкл Джордан или Майкл Джексон?
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 Ай бұрын
Майкл Джекдан
@RizwanKhan-jz3qu
@RizwanKhan-jz3qu Ай бұрын
Can you give me some tips for learning german . Where can i lear it ?
@Julia-ql9ix
@Julia-ql9ix Ай бұрын
I have a passing interest in linguistics alongside my interest in learning languages. Mostly historical linguistics, which is the study of what languages are related to each other, how closely, and what their common ancestor was like. For example, English, Swedish, and Hindi are all related to each other, but English and Swedish are only 2,000 years apart, whereas English and Hindi are more like 6,000 years apart.
@hakimdjeghali1507
@hakimdjeghali1507 Ай бұрын
Grammar YES SOMEONE EXACTLY LIKE ME
@Merikat07
@Merikat07 29 күн бұрын
It’s so interesting because language is so many hobbies at once. I love linguistics because it gives me insight into how the human brain organizes its thoughts and presents them to other humans. I have a rough idea of why Basque grammar is so different to grammar in other language families and I love that and think it’s so cool to learn about, but I don’t know a single Basque word. I love learning dead languages and about how languages evolved and continue to evolve because it gives me perspective on people who have lived in so many time periods whose lives were just as real and interesting as my own. I have it on my bucked list to try to learn as much Sumerian as a person could learn from what we have because it’s from a people who were completely unique who have no living relatives and yet we can still know about their real human experience. The past and the way things work can be just as interesting for some people as actually speaking to other humans is to others.
@Merikat07
@Merikat07 29 күн бұрын
For what it’s worth I do try to learn living languages. I can hold a conversation in Spanish and speak a little Norwegian. And want to learn more. But to me learning the language will always be a necessary chore that I do because I enjoy linguistics.
@Prilavolus
@Prilavolus 22 күн бұрын
I agree for the most part, but I acknowledge that some people are simply wedded to theory instead of practice. I've found some value in the IPA when studying several related languages at a time, to understand how the particulars differ from one another. I found it especially helpful with the Crow language.
@Zakariyathaking
@Zakariyathaking Ай бұрын
The IPA is kinda annoying because all languages don’t match up to IPA but sometimes its useful to show sounds
@polymloth
@polymloth Ай бұрын
I disagree with pretty much everything. Learning phonetics has helped me distinguish all the different sounds in the languages I’m learning, and so, has improved my listening comprehension immensely. This in turn has boosted my language acquisition significantly. Knowing that tones are not pitches but specific throat movements and positions has made tonal languages appear no more difficult than non-tonal ones. I’m not listening for pitch, I’m listening for sound quality. Learning about sound shifts has pretty much supercharged my vocabulary acquisition in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean-and even in Thai! I can quite accurately guess the On-readings and Sino-Korean counterparts for any given word in Chinese, but also do the reverse, allowing me to learn new words without having to look them up. I also get a much more extensive web of connections for each word from the get-go. Would you have known that เงิน [ŋɤn] (Romanised: ngən) and 銀 [yín] share the same root? To me it was immediately obvious. And I find that so amazing! And if Asian languages aren’t your jam, consider the usefulness of being able to recognise Latin roots in any given Romance language and the sound shift differences between them, essentially allowing you to acquire multiple languages simultaneously without much extra effort. But to get back to the Asian languages, learning about the composition and development of Chinese characters has helped me learn them much more effectively and efficiently. Knowing which forms might’ve fused together or transformed in certain ways allows me to recognise the components much faster and learn the histories of the characters just by looking at them, integrating newly learned characters firmly into my memory. Understanding the basics of Brahmic scripts and how the characters map so beautiful onto a phonetic grid can also help you learn any such script, including Thai, Khmer, Burmese, Devanagari, and Tamil, and even see the connections to the Korean 한글 (Romanised: Hangul). And I definitely take offence to both “useless” and “communist”. (Also, I’m not defending linguistics as a linguist myself but purely as a hobbyist language learner.)
@dumbalek6001
@dumbalek6001 Ай бұрын
😡 roasting the opinion and roasting your hat!!!!
@dumbalek6001
@dumbalek6001 Ай бұрын
Learning about a language is way more fun than learning the language
@dumbalek6001
@dumbalek6001 Ай бұрын
Hate learning grammar though give me phonology and sociolinguistics 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@dumbalek6001
@dumbalek6001 Ай бұрын
5:13 this is what I did for about two days before my phonology exam and I feel so attacked 😔
@firstminecraft4721
@firstminecraft4721 Ай бұрын
​@@dumbalek6001Are you a teen?
@dumbalek6001
@dumbalek6001 Ай бұрын
​​@@firstminecraft4721 I'm a little baby I just climbed out of my father's womb.
@crimsonplane7723
@crimsonplane7723 5 күн бұрын
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