Congratulations on going to the dark side. The 7PRC is an excellent cartridge and my wife loves hers. Her rifle has a 26” barrel and gets 3060 fps with the Hornady eld-x ammo

My old Remington Custom Shop 7mm Rem Mag with a standard twist rate still gets the job done with 175 grain Nosler ABLRs and Partitions. Really good elk round out to 400+ yards. Thanks for all the interesting videos. Keep up the excellent work...

Congrats! It’s always great fun to try new cartridges and rifles! In the beginning, I spaced out my calibers and cartridges, strategically, for different game classes. Then, I started filling in between. Lol! I’m very grateful and fortunate to have had many of the most popular calibers and cartridges from .243 to .500. Well over 20+ different calibers/cartridges over a lifetime. The newest cartridge developments are quite interesting. Enjoy!

I have one on the way as well. Very excited. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

Excited as I'm always interested in how the new cartridges compare to what was available in the past.

I like to see all content on different rounds.Im not on the PRC bandwagon,but then again,I say Welcome and let's see what they can do.

7 PRC vs everything! I am extremely excited for these videos coming up. I am in the research phase of buying a long distance rifle. 7PRC seems to be the sweet spot, it just doesn’t have the following or availability of 6.5 PRC. I’ve been slightly leaning towards 6.5 PRC based on reloading componentsand availability. I’m excited to see you shed some real light on the matter 7PRC.

Very excited about the 7 PRC series!

This will answer all my questions with an unbiased source of info. And I'm very interested in this cartridge because it's a 7.

I’ve seen velocities higher with the federal 7PRC vs the same weight with the hornady. Personally I’m looking at a 22” barrel with a suppressor. I’ve run 300 PRC and my hunting partner ran 7PRC this season and took three animals with it - and his rifle has a 22” barrel and suppressor. Made me appreciate the set up and its capabilities.

I got a 7 prc in a remington 700 long range a few months ago and love it. It shoots 1 inch groups with the 180's and a little better with the 175's in factory ammo. Just starting to work up some loads with h4831sc and 180 edl but i think i can have better then 1/2 inch when i get everything tuned.

Very excited, waiting on my 7mm prc barrel.

Gotta love Hornady using Winchester powder!

Good reason to get one bro, and better you than me hahaha. Looking forward to seeing what you get out of it!

Looking forward for aaaall the data on the handloads buddy, my 7 is on the way😊

I never owned a 7mm, interesting to see a real comparison and not a marketing plan. Looking forward to seeing what you bring us

Been reloading for over 36 years I have had a 35p Chronograph for 22 years I currently reload for 300wm 300wsm 30/06 338wm 7mmstw 308win 7mm/08 6.5×55 450bm 223/556 Five different HG calibers I have a the cost of a 2016 low miles 1 owner used Toyota tied up in reloading equipment alone I own 90%+ of every reloading manual one can buy I eat breath and sleep firearms reloading shooting and optics I DO NOT and never have bought into hype surrounding cartridges rifle or HG Having said all that if I were going to buy a single cartridge tomorrow for hunting deer elk moose and antelope and it had to be 100% effective out to 800 yards of all the factory cartridges currently available I would choise the 7mmPRC as I feel it has the best overall balance of both exceptional ballistic performance and excellent on game performance and that is say A LOT for me as I absolutely love everything about the 300wsm

Interesting video! Keep us posted! As always, thank you!

It will be interesting to see your tests. I pick 28 Nosler for hunting 7prc for precision and long range shooting, also can hunt with it. 7STW was a fantastic round. Finally 7Weatherby and 7rem mag also nice rounds Pick the one you like the most. All will do the job.

I like the cartridge but Hornady bullets leaves some to be desired (my opinion). I prefer Barnes for monolithic and Sierra/Berger/Nosler/Norma for bonded and jacketed. I am contemplating getting a 7 PRC once they are available in South Africa and I am considering a lightweight build with a 22 inch barrel and a suppressor. I do acknowledge that other people might differ with my reasoning but I'm looking for a 7mm (non belted) that shoots a 168/175gr Barnes at 2700-2800 fps (handloads so don't need more velocity for meat damage but should be able to hit at least 2700 minimum) and is short and very packable. As bullets lose about 100 fps per 50m and the Barnes require 2100fps for expansion. That would allow me 350m of hunting distance and I don't want to hunt any longer distance than that. The 7PRC I believe gives added versatility as it can be stretched out to distance for some long range shooting on the weekends (where I can load some Bergers/Noslers 175gr/185gr etc at 3000fps), however the 22" barrel will be a bit of a disadvantage. Please feel free to voice your opinion on my reasoning and I look forward to the test results. Regards

I can't wait for the results I have been entertaining the idea of getting a 28 caliber in a Weatherby rifle

Looking forward to this!! Thanks for the great content!!

I'm excited to see how youre testing comes along. Youre doing all the things i would do. Im especially excited to see about the mono bullets. Im glad youre getting a 24" barrel. Its wild to me to see some many gun makers only offering them in a 22" barrel.

I’m very excited for 7prc content, as I’d like to get one someday soon. Personally, as far as bullets go, once I get one, I’m planning to find some 195 Berger EOLs. If you happen to get your hands on some of those, that I would find highly interesting.

Both of those rounds shoot better than Hornady Match in my rifle. Though I do have 200 rounds of match squirreled away for flinging long range. I also have some Barned 168 LRTs that I hope are shooters for me...when deer season is over.

Im genuinely excited to see what you come up with and appreciate you taking the plunge so that the rest of us handloaders can get some actually decent data on the cartridge. Is it actually just marketing, or is there something here that we should consider? How does it stack against the 6.8 Western or something like the 7mm Weatherby, or the 270 Weatherby with heavy bullets? So many questions that could be answered, and I appreciate you taking the time to do so!

I plan on purchasing 1. So I'm glad you are

Of all the PRC cartridges the 7 mm got my interest I would like to get one the 7 mm Remington mag with a 1 in 8 twist would also be a sweet deal

The CX could have more jump if the bullet profiles are different. If you have a comparator gauge your could measure base to ogive and that might paint a different picture.

Look foreword to seeing what it can do! I have a 7mm mag and just seems to be just that bit more and better with the 175 ELDX bullets out of PRC than the 162 from my mag. I have the 162's going 2920fps.

Would love to see this compared to the 6.8 western. Seems like hornady is overstating their factory ammo on the 7PRC. 6.8 will still likely be a bit slower overall but I bet its a lot closer than most people think.

Looking forward to seeing what rifle you chose and how that Hornady outfitter ammo will group, especially. I tried that ammo with the CX bullet in my 7mm RM and 308. Both HATED it. Probably the worst groups I’ve seen in factory ammo. Will be interesting to see what that rifle thinks of it.

I’m sure the 7 PRC is a good cartridge. Especially for the non handloader. Honestly I have no need for it or a 7 rem mag. I could do all my deer hunting with 7x57, 7mm08, or 280 rem and never be under gunned the rest of my life. Looking forward to your testing though to see what it’ll do!

Awesome! I think you're going to like it.

I applaud you for taking the step to give a first hand account. I wouldn’t because experience has taught me that hype is too often used to just sell a product. I have no use for a 7mm PRC because I have other 7mm rifles.

I am doing something very similar, I have a 7mm prc on order. Getting a bergara b14 wilderness hunter to test. I have done alot with 30 caliber, 6mm and 6.5mm. Just made the switch, got rid of my last 30 caliber rifle. Currently shooting, 22-250, 6br, 6arc, 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5 prc, 280ai and now 7 prc. Took all my deer with 6.5 creedmoor this year just to see and I am impressed all three deer single shot, furthest one got was 20 yards after the shot. Going to compare 280ai vs 7prc, I have always stayed away from 7 rem mag due to the slow twist rates of factory barrels. The goal of my 7prc is long range ELR shooting. 1000 yard’s plus, hopefully upwards of 2500 yards. Eventually putting it in a chassis if I am happy with it. Also hope to get a moose, elk and black bear with the 7 prc to see how it performs. See if it lives upto the hype or if it fails. I love the 280ai, so it’s an uphill battle for the 7prc as I am a self admitted 280ai fanboy. My 280ai has a 1:8.5 twist barrel so I can utilize heavy bullets.

Can't wait for this one very interested?

Real excited to see you compare this against the 1-8" 7mm RM and see how true it is that they duplicate each other. Also, against the 6.8 western because I'm pretty charmed by that cartridge but it seems like it's all but dead at this point.

Exciting to me. Can’t wait. Sounds like apples to apples. Proof will be in the pudding. Thank you for doing this!!!!

I really like the 7prc . From my point of view , a novice hunter. The out of the box accuracy of their ammo. 4RNDS IN .54MOA @100YARDS out of a $415 mossberg with and even cheaper optic is pretty good . However this is only my opinion. I have some shoulder injuries that make heavy recoiling calibers a very real pain to shoot. My personal experience when taking a Roosevelt elk with it at a close distance of roughly 200 yards ...it was lights... out .I mean the bull barely twitched. So in many camps faster is better. But I seem to think that even if you launch a bullet at super high speeds , if you can't retain that energy at the target or animal what's the point? Why suffer the recoil if all you may need to do is get a bullet that has a higher BC to get the same effect down range. Am I wrong here? Am I wrong here? Kinda makes sense 🤔 to me. Thoughts?

Would love to see a comparison with the 7 saum!

I'm investing in one bolt gun, and that is a Nosler M21 in 27 Nosler.

I just bought a 7mm PRC and shot it the first time yesterday. Very impressive. My shooting not so much 😄

I’m looking forward to this. One issue I’m very interested in is whether the 7 prc suffers from the “clicker” issue where brass gets difficult to resize around case web after a few firings. I would appreciate your attention to and feedback on that issue. If I have to have a custom reamer or custom reloading dies to get more than 3 firings on my cases, the chief selling point of the prc line (custom rifle performance/attributesfrom factory rifles) is greatly diminished in my opinion.

I'm excited, just hope you're fair. Seems like a serious contender. I'm wanting one but my 6.5 PRC does everything I need with less recoil and cost. If I lived in a state that had bigger game the 7 PRC would be a top choice but I live in TX.

7rem mag is now available in 1&8 twist rate. All 3 cartridges, 6.8 western,7rem mag, 7mm PRC are great cartridges. Chrono, Accuracy and Energy Tables comparing all 3 would be awesome.

Regarding how it shoots, take a look at James Eagleman's video for Barbour Creek Shooting. He compared the 3 PRCs and, I think, the 6.5CM to 1000 yards. On drop and drift, the 7PRC won. And, if I recall correctly, it raised an eyebrow for Mr. Eagleman I think

Great choice! The PRCs in general might be overhyped by some since they don't do much more the what was already there, like the 7mm Rem Mag... they just do it with a better case design and tolerences. Not a revolution but still a little bit better. I know you would have prefered to go with the 6.8 Western but the PRC won the contest lolll

I couldn't get the CX bullets to group at all as you can see in my 7prc vs 300 wsm video. Love my xbolt 7prc

On Rokslide they took apart a 7 PRC factory load and they were quite certain it was loaded with RL 26. Might have been the 180 gr load or maybe they changed over to a ball powder now.

I'm really looking forward to this. Testing it with the intent of debunking the hype is probably going to produce one of the most honest and accurate reviews of the cartridge that can be done. I've only compared it to all the "fudd" cartridges on paper and only with factory ammo. Seeing it done irl is going to be very insightful. Please define "Long Range". On paper, this thing is good out to 2200yrds. How far can you reach out? I'm very interested in how it performs/compares at 1760ish because that's going to be my application for it. Currently that application is filled by the 300 Prc but the 7 claims to be faster, flatter, and more wind resistant. It's going to be a fun series for sure. 👍

Will be nice to see testing on a bullet that is not the ELDX. Maybe at a later date you can test WEATHERBY is Hammer bullet load for the 7mm PRC

I would love to see the 7 PRC vs 300 WBY Mag.

Looking forward to the 7mm PRC content. I'm not an expert on Hornady factory ammo, but I had a box of American Gunner 6.5CM 140 gr BTHP with a box velocity of 2690 FPS. My 10 shot average on a 35F day from a 24" barreled Savage 10 was 2691 FPS. I also find that Hornady's load data has listed velocities that are more often correct than not. For example, when loading for 6.5 CM the Hornady listed velocities were never more that 50FPS different than what I measured, often 30 FPS or less difference, and once 0 FPS difference. With Nosler load data and bullets I was nearly 100 FPS faster than expected and with Sierra load data and bullets over 100 FPS faster. I was even using the same case and primer called for in the Sierra data.

I am going to get one also. I just saw that Bergara came out with it in the HMR Pro

Definitely excited

I'm really interested to see what it can do when reloaded compared to the other 7s. 280AI and 7mm rem mag would be interesting

I would like to see the 7mm prc with the berger 195 grain EOL elite hunter bullets.

Can't wait to see the 168gr LRX

I bought a Bergara B14 Crest in 6.5 PRC and couldn't get the 130 CX's to group. I was testing different factory loads in the same shoot and it's possible the barrel was too warm. However, the CX's maybe had an 8 inch group, no joke. ELDM and 142 ABLR from Choice ammunition produced .75 inch groups at 100. Maybe the barrel was warm (wasn't uncomfortable to touch) but more likely my gun simply didn't like it. I know this is a 7 PRC video but that's my very brief experience with the CX

How about a comparison between the 7prc and 7mm weatherby

After watching a lot of content and you can't argue the numbers. It's my favorite PRC. I have a 270 so I wouldn't get 6.5. One hornady cartridge I want is a 6 ARC In a super light AR or bolt gun.

I understand why you're doing this and I think it's important! Time for the 7MM PRC to put its money where its mouth is. "Put up or shut up" as they say. I'm still not convinced on this cartridge yet as it doesn't fill a niche for me, I have a 7mm RM and a 28 Nosler, I think my next long range hunting round will be the 6.8 Western. Time will tell, certainly, if your results show the 7mm PRC is the bees knees, maybe i'll consider it.

would love to see a 7mm PRC vs 6.8 Western.

Love to see you load the 145gr tipped hammer or 155gr hammer

I'll chrono my 7PRC next weekend. My rifle has a 24" Proof barrel. I usually shoot suppressed, so I'll have to sample both because I'm interested to see if the suppressor adds anything. Even though I have a 7PRC, Instill want a 280 AI and I love my 270 Win.

I have a 22” proof barrel, I’ve been getting 3000+ with Federal Terminal Ascent 170 grain. Under .5 groups. Love this cartridge, yeah 6.8 western is good, so is 270 WSM, who cares, 7 PRC is badass.

My fierce rage shoots 180 vld at 3050. Factory Hornady was 115 ft slow in my rifle.

I didn't know the monolithic liked a jump... Maybe that's why my 300 win mag lives the Hornady outfitter 180 GR then.

Do the video series! You are on the cutting edge. Trust me. The only thing holding this cartridge back is availability. Side note. I pulled a factory eldm 7 prc. The powder was a stick powder. It was not h1000. Best guess, and I could be wrong reloader 26 or 4830 SC. Pull a bullet of each factory offering from hornady. Welcome to the rabbit hole

Hill country done a video and got 2975 out of a 24” barrel. Pretty close. You should get past 3000 with hand loads. Is the 7 mag a custom barrel with 1 in 8 twist? They should be really close in everything. That’s the point of the prc. Faster twist for heavy fast bullets.

How about 7 PRC vs 28 NOSLER, I know it may be an apple’s and oranges thing but still interesting none the less. Thanks RMC

I’m going to do prediction, I’ve guessing an average velocity with your rifle will be about 2860 with your 24” barrel with factory precision hunter loads. As far as jump, my measured maximum COL on my rifle is 3.393 (jam of 3.413 - .020). With factory bullets having a COL between 3.295 and 2.320, ( max sami of 3.340) there’s a good amount of jump at factory COL. Looking forward to seeing your setup and what you come up with for loads.

I've heard A LOT of guys and gals are getting more like 2850 with 26" barrels with factory 175 eldx. Kinda disappointing. I'm curious to see what results you get!

Well I'm back from a 2 week hunting excursion. Here's a SMALL bit of data. As of commented before on your vids and Hopeful Ballistics, I've got 7PRCs: I took one on the hunt with me. It has ONE test shot through it from the gun builder. Then I put 4 more through it to get it on paper and zeroed. I used factory Hornady ELD-M 180s. I've NEVER killed any game with Hornady centerfire ammo or Hornady bullets that were handloaded for centerfire (only 44 cal XTPs in my 44 mag handgun and muzzleloader) I euthanized a deer on the second hunt with the 7PRC at 189 yards, slightly quartering to me. Entry hole was barely larger than caliber size. Exit hole was about the size of a quarter. The vitals appeared to be destroyed in the same manner as with any other bullet I've used including Berger VLDs, Barnes TSX, TTSX, LRX, Speer boat tails, Nosler btips, ABs, solid base, Federal factory blue box ammo, etc. You name it. Could not tell any difference in performance. The deer dropped at the shot I've seen a number of experienced hunter's videos who have time based experience with Hornady rifle ammo and in particular the ELD-M on game. In addition to this, a physician buddy of mine killed his big Colorado bull elk at 300 or so yards with ELD-M (225 gr)? from his 300 PRC. Therefore I was willing to give it a go. Worked perfectly. I"ve recovered 2 rifle bullets from deer in 40 years of hunting with a rifle. A Speer 150 grain 270 boat tail bullet from a big Missouri buck in 1998 at 130 yards perfect broadside lung shot - perfect mushroom, and a 130 grain Federal factory blue box ammo from a 270, big mule deer buck in CO at 18 yards, again perfect broadside, very flattened mushroomed bullet. Both bucks dropped and never flinched after hitting the ground Rifle: AG Composite stock, Hawkins DBM kit, 24 inch #5 contour Benchmark cut-rifled 8T barrel, Lone Peak Arms Left hand Razor Ti action, Trigger tech Diamond trigger set at 1 pound. I'll be taking this rifle to the range this weekend to see what it will do with Hornady ELD-X factory ammo, Federal ELD-X factory ammo, and also the ELD-M ammo. Never got a chance to check groups as I knew I wouldn't shoot over 250 yards and just getting it zeroed at 100 it would have printed less than 1/2 MOA if I were to overlap the targets. Once I see what it will do, I will then try handloads with 180 BVLDs over Retumbo and LRT. These 2 components with ADG brass produced one holers with my other 7PRC that has the 25" Brux barrel

Funny how you said you were not into hype cartridges and by name "Reloading Weatherby" and Weatherby is the father of hype cartridges. Having said that I am looking forward to your future videos on the 7mm PRC. I just purchased one myself after thinking I didn't need any more rifles because I have way more than I need now. But seeing the performance of this cartridge I just had to have one expensive as the ammo is. I do reload as well so, if need be, I can reload if I need to. Nice video.

I was really thinking of getting one but then I took a closer look and my .280 AI actually out performs the PRC. I use Retumbo with a 168 Berger hunting VLD with devastating effects on game and it shoots sub 1/2” groups and smaller if I do my job correctly! I understand why people will buy the 7PRC and you bought a Bergara with the 24” barrel that’s my guess! 🤔

I was really disappointed when I took my new Bergara HMR 7mm PRC to the range and the Chrono read 2864. I literally sank down on the bench. I have fired about 40 rounds through the barrel and it has barely sped up. Usually speeds up to around 100- 120. I haven't hand loaded yet. Can't find any RL26 which is what I want to use. I do have Retumbo and some 7828. Brass is on its way from Mid-South. I'm curious to see what I can get out of it.

I’d like to see you compare it to the .28 Nosler or the 7mm RUM.

How ironic is it that Horandy is using Winchester powder in their darling 7 loadings, but is blackballing the 6.8 western so hard.

I was thinking the 7 mm PRC.Had to much recoil.Till I seen you could buy recoil pads and muzzle brakes that could reduce the recoil down to a mere 13 pounds of felt recoil..

Out of my 26'' barrel im getting a mv of 2942 with the 175gr eldx and 2908 mv with the 180gr eldm

So what in your opinion makes the better long range bullet? The heavier higher BC bullet, or the lighter lower BC bullet? Have you ever actually compared a higher BC heavy bullet like a 180 gr compared to a lighter lower BC bullet like a 160 gr. both fired from the same 7 mm gun at say 1000 yards? At what distance will the higher BC bullet become superior? What distance is maximum as for hunting with the cartridge? Write down your opinion before you try if you havent tried doing it. You will find that there is an ideal bullet weight for every cartridge. And even though that (on paper ) the higher BC appears to have an advantage, that isnt necessarily so. Velocity always rules, even over BC. At least to a point, beyond which it dosent matter anyway. but having both is better yet, which is why a 338 using a 300 gr @ 3000fps is a far different cartridge than a 7 mm @ 3000fps at the longer distances. But to attempt to improve a cartridge, any cartridge, simply by using a higher BC bullet, is actually a fools mission. BC to a large degree has become a marketing tool meant for the uninformed. In that regard it is simply BS, not BC. Im betting that your 7mm WBY. with a 160 class bullet will out perform the PRC with any bullet you use in it at the longer distances. If you want something better, get a 300 Norma and try 190s.

I’d like to see you compare it to the 28 Nosler. Mine gets 3320 fps with the 175 gr. ELDX. Thanks.

Overall tip to rim length is a magazine length issue, the real measurement with accuracy would be to get the rim to ojive subjective to the bullet jam.

7 PRC will need to get someone else to load ammo for it before I will purchae any gun or ammo. ELDX blows up like a hand grenade and none of my Sako rifles I currently own like the CX bullets for accuracy. Little help from Federal with some Accubond LR or Barnes LR TTSX would be nice to see.

Mine with the 24” barrel is hitting avg speed of 2969 with the ELDXs

Any ideas why we dont see 6.8W in a AR10? I would think with a 22' barrel you would have a rifle that has great hunting potential and enough power and capacity to fend off toothy critters. The 6.8W is essentially the 270wsm 2.0. Id so snatch one up ..even in 20" .

No need to apologise! It is THE sweet spot in ballistics!

Mine has a 24” barrel and with the factory eldx i had 125 fps spread from 2880-3005.

I'm getting 2910 avg vel from factory 175gr ELDX rounds and 2920 from factory 160 gr CX rounds. 80 degree day at 700 ft elevation. Data I've found seems to agree that Hornady publishes velocities about 100 ft/s faster than actually velocities-and those are supposed to be at seas level.... Total B.S. That aside, Hornady's dishonest advertising does not take away the actual positive attributes of the round.

Personally, I'm only interested in copper bullets for hunting, as lead is killing raptors like golden and bald eagles at an incredibly high rate. One grain of rice size piece of lead will kill an eagle. That's a very common loss of a lead bullet in hunting, imo. In Fairbanks, AK where I live, Hornadys are the only commonly available option. Strangely, they dont fit in my early 2000s Rem Model Seven 7mm-08 without significant pressure to close the bolt. Do you know why that is? Solution? Increase head spacing? It puts a mark on the middle of the bullet. Cheers!

6,8 western ws 7mmprc

I haven’t bothered looking into 7prc let alone any of the prc’s due to the insane hype which, news flash, pissed me off. Now that it has settled a bit, I’ve been looking into the PRC line up and am impressed with some of the numbers but still open to non prc, belted magnums if it suits my needs better \(;-;)/

Hmmmm....Ruger American Go Wild, Bergara B-14 or Browning Xbolt? .280 REM vs 7mm PRC vs 7mm Mag vs .28 Nosler

Haha, what a turn around! Respect, glad you came around to the dark side. 7mm PRC is the only PRC cartridge worth buying. I absolutely love mine. .25-06 for the woods, 7mm PRC for the fields and long range target shooting. I like loading the 175gr hornady ELD-X with H-1000 and I found a good zone that drills tight groups around 2880fps out of a 26” Christensen.

I wish I could give you 2 likes for the Obi Wan Kenobi misquote. That was good.

I’m betting you’re getting a fierce. You should build you a custom. As long as you don’t change your mind on components like I have in the past, it can be made for not much more than a high end factory rifle.

If the rifle manufacturers would just give us a 26" tube we'd get those velocities. I get that the 7prc is supposed to perform in shorter barrels but it clearly doesnt do it from all the chronograph videos ive seen.

Interesting, my 24 inch howa1500 shooting 6.5 creedmoor goes 2710fps on average. The box of Hornaday ELD match says 2700fps. Seems pretty correct to me. Can't speak to 7prc but don't blanket damn Hornaday.