Why I'm Voting Against Labour

Why I'm Voting Against Labour - Peter Hitchens

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Peter Hitchens is an English conservative author, broadcaster, journalist, and commentator. 💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥
He writes for The Mail on Sunday and was a foreign correspondent reporting from both Moscow and Washington DC. His books include The Abolition of Britain, The Rage Against God, The War We Never Fought and The Phoney Victory. Previously a Trotskyist and supporter of the Labour Party, Hitchens became more conservative during the 1990s. He joined the Conservative Party in 1997 and left in 2003, and has since been deeply critical of the party, which he views as the biggest obstacle to true conservatism in the UK.
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00:00 Trailer
00:45 I’m voting against Labour by voting Tory
02:42 Don’t call me a contrarian
03:23 Better to vote against than vote for
06:00 A Starmer government will be Blair mark II
12:55 If Starmer gets in
14:05 Starmer is a leftist extremist
18:42 SPONSOR: Monetary Metals
19:54 Starmer is concealing how revolutionary he is
22:39 As an ex-Trotskyist, I can read the signs
24:00 It’s now funny to me
24:43 Labour will be the death of civil society
26:27 There is no populist revolt in Europe
28:00 Farage is not a conservative
30:18 A vote for Reform is a vote for Labour
31:30 Labour will probably stay in for 20 years
34:30 ‘The Tories will lose’ is propaganda
35:45 Does it matter that people aren’t enthusiastic about Labour?
36:53 He who votes to punish the Tories votes to punish himself
38:27 It’s accepting that we’re all doomed that keeps me so cheerful
39:30 Vote against the worst imaginable government
40:20 SPONSOR: Manscaped
41:27 The shadow chancellor’s extremist hero
43:37 What the Tories can do now
44:18 The perils of polling predictions
48:14 What do you mean by conservatism, Peter?
49:03 The Conservatives have never been conservative
50:50 Starmer will be a big change from the Tories
52:55 I don’t think Starmer cares much about immigration
54:40 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?

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WATCH episodes 4 hrs early, extended and ad-free on our Locals! triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Trailer 00:45 I’m voting against Labour by voting Tory 02:42 Don’t call me a contrarian 03:23 Better to vote against than vote for 06:00 A Starmer government will be Blair mark II 12:55 If Starmer gets in 14:05 Starmer is a leftist extremist 18:42 SPONSOR: Monetary Metals 19:54 Starmer is concealing how revolutionary he is 22:39 As an ex-Trotskyist, I can read the signs 24:00 It’s now funny to me 24:43 Labour will be the death of civil society 26:27 There is no populist revolt in Europe 28:00 Farage is not a conservative 30:18 A vote for Reform is a vote for Labour 31:30 Labour will probably stay in for 20 years 34:30 ‘The Tories will lose’ is propaganda 35:45 Does it matter that people aren’t enthusiastic about Labour? 36:53 He who votes to punish the Tories votes to punish himself 38:27 It’s accepting that we’re all doomed that keeps me so cheerful 39:30 Vote against the worst imaginable government 40:20 SPONSOR: Manscaped 41:27 The shadow chancellor’s extremist hero 43:37 What the Tories can do now 44:18 The perils of polling predictions 48:14 What do you mean by conservatism, Peter? 49:03 The Conservatives have never been conservative 50:50 Starmer will be a big change from the Tories 52:55 I don’t think Starmer cares much about immigration 54:40 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?

@admiralbillom7559 3 күн бұрын

nobody, including hitchens seems to find any significance in starmer's membership of the trilateral commission. he will introduce eugenics under the guise of assisted dying.

@jamescool4930 3 күн бұрын

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@kenrehill8775 3 күн бұрын

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@glowing571 3 күн бұрын

Hicthens is laughing and getting excited because he knows what he is saying is absolute garbage. He thinks the Blair government was packed with revolutionary communists even though they were the most business friendly Labour government in history, even though they sold off tons of state owned assets and brought in public-private partnerhsip with elements of the NHS. as well as hiking up migration to create a labour surplus which was what the CBI was crying out for to benefit the rich at the increasing expense of the poor. Oh yeah, truly revolutionary communist. The guy is barely a pseudo-intellectual. He's just annoyed because England no longer has the stringent morality of the Victoria era which he wants back so he peddles any old contradictory nonsense.

@jandmath 3 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchens not voting Labour is the best recommendation of doing just that.

@theartfuldodger8609 3 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchens, you're a contrarian. Peter Hitchens : I disagree

@VelkePivo 3 күн бұрын

😂

@charleswhite758 3 күн бұрын

@@VelkePivo Thank you, that sums the man up. He's a shifting sands merchant

@roytore5062 3 күн бұрын

Hitchens is too comfortable in finding new ways to be difficult to talk to, and dares you to like him. Being extremely intelligent doesn’t excuse you for being arrogant and patronising.

@nedks11 3 күн бұрын

Trite joke

@laurencehogg6010 3 күн бұрын

Priceless.

@cian_dali Күн бұрын

Like two school boys interviewing the teacher they’re afraid of.

@user-up9rf3nw2i Күн бұрын

Absolutely spot on...amateurs 😅

@paulos1878 Күн бұрын

He described them in some of his answers and they toned it down after he said people who think they know politics but they don't.

@Squeegee216 22 сағат бұрын

Peter will walk off if they push too hard. Hes not mature enough.

@chasleask8533 17 сағат бұрын

Peter seemed to be defending a position , rather than making valid points . He did a bit of 'cutting off' when he could have been dealing with genuine concerns .

@XXXmolseyXXX 2 сағат бұрын

@@user-up9rf3nw2iIt's because Peter is know to resort to ad hominem, be rude, and storm off. They have to tip toe around him as he's an arrogant asshole who gets triggered at the slightest thing.

@Mackeul 2 күн бұрын

Worst imaginable government? Nearly every Canadian: "Hold my beer, eh!"

@stockinettestitch 17 сағат бұрын

They’re both controlled by the same WEF

@unclebasil3489 5 сағат бұрын

Cambodians in 1975: ...

@Lee-fc3yf 2 күн бұрын

This is going to be a disaster of biblical proportions for the UK.

@jeezy8360 2 күн бұрын

It is already. Have you been living under a rock?

@Lee-fc3yf 2 күн бұрын

@@jeezy8360 In what way explain.. the only issue I can see is Non-European Immigration numbers being to high but they have built out a coherent plan for that. What is Labours considering that's their core vote? The whole of Europe has moved to the right on this issue and we've voted in the Labour Islamic party...what are their plans for antisemitism? They've been pretending to root it out of their party for a decade. ...What exactly is their immigration plan?

@ab-js2gw Күн бұрын

Where have you been for the last 14 years?

@Lee-fc3yf Күн бұрын

@@ab-js2gw So Labour Union Islamic Party is the solution? Explain.

@dandare1001 Күн бұрын

It was going so well before Labour came in. 🤣🤣

@localbod 3 күн бұрын

I can not and will not vote for the Conservatives. Likewise, I refuse to vote for the Labour Party.

@neasahayes6044 3 күн бұрын

Both horrible.

@nicotoscani1707 3 күн бұрын

and a non-vote is idi-otic... so the only logical choice is reform

@nicotoscani1707 3 күн бұрын

@@localbod my comment got memory holed .. vote reform uk i said .. cos a nonvote doesn't solve anything

@jamesmitchell7185 3 күн бұрын

I think a lot of people this year just won't vote, purely because they hate all parties involved.

@localbod 3 күн бұрын

@@nicotoscani1707 I shall vote. Part of me is tempted to spoil my ballot paper, but I will decide what to do when I see who exactly is standing in my area.

@zeptom473 3 күн бұрын

Thank goodness you didn't talk about drug legalisation...

@JohnDavidSullivan 3 күн бұрын

lol

@99wc57 3 күн бұрын

Lol

@rogerdodger1790 3 күн бұрын

I don't know, I thought that was a highly entertaining interview 😂

@charlytaylor1748 3 күн бұрын

Hit on a bong every time Peter says 'the'

@redrum7475 3 күн бұрын

Would have been a short interview, with a very long exit 😂

@stephenholmes1036 Күн бұрын

My eldest daughter is immigrating to New Zealand on 29th December joining my my middle daughter. I would emplore any young people with any skills to leave this country. New Zealand only accept skilled people who can be an asset to them. My youngest daughter a mental health nurse is staying for now. I agree with Peter this country is finished, Starmer is Bliar mark 2 and i voted tactically against them. If only the Conservative had elected David Davis instead of Cameron. They need him now as i have no one to vote for anymore

@OsellaSquadraCorse 2 сағат бұрын

Ah yes, New Zealand the bastion of liberal freedom where creating a 2nd class of the 'unlean' wasn't at all gleefully suggested by their Labour Prime Minister.... Leave the UK by all means, but not to another hellhole like Australia, NZ, Canada, Germany, Sweden, France, Spain, Brazil or (different reasons) Israel, Turkey, China...

@glenben92 Күн бұрын

9 minutes in and konstantin already realises he has to caveat a request for elaboration with "i agree with you" to keep the child calm 😂😂

@dannyarcher6370 3 күн бұрын

Peter is the embodiment of Carlin’s “Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist”.

@calumacky 2 күн бұрын

Is he an idealist? His ideals appear to be a Christian nation where the sexual revolution never happened. Times, fortunately, have changed and it's not an ideal situation to have a society running on religious sexual repression and a lack of empathy. Why doesn't he take his own advice and move. The middle east is probably the last place in the world that would suit his ideals although he'll have to convert to Islam.

@daireconnolly522 15 сағат бұрын

Not really, he’s not a cynic and he’s not an idealist. Things are actually just really bad and in the trajectory of getting worse

@mre7550 3 күн бұрын

Trouble is that the conservatives have effectively quit and handed over to Labour

@sacredcloud23 3 күн бұрын

That has been the plan all along.

@BennyMcGibbon 3 күн бұрын

Yes, it's strange. Something is amiss. It seems all the major western governments seem to be purposely wanting to lose their election campaigns. Either they know that they will all win... somehow.. Or they want to lose for some reason we'll find out pretty soon.

@PaulGappyNorris 3 күн бұрын

They are not smart enough to have a “plan”. It is simply down to gross incompetence at every level 😬

@andrewcheadle948 3 күн бұрын

@@sacredcloud23appears to be the case.

@patmillar961 3 күн бұрын

1900 all over again.....my opinion. Reform has my vote!

@travelmantv9747 2 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t vote Labour either if my net worth was 4 million pounds and I live in a Mansion.

@Sancarn 2 күн бұрын

💯 his main point was taxation on savings lol I.E he's worried about his inheritance. Classic

@illegalopinions4082 14 сағат бұрын

@@SancarnIt's a pretty universal concern

@yog50 2 күн бұрын

I am definitely voting Reform. Because for me there is absolutely no difference between Conservative and Labour.

@desmondpowell68 2 күн бұрын

Reform are talking about teaming up with conservatives...😅😅😅

@susieare 2 күн бұрын

Sadly I think labour will be far far worse. Who knows what tricks they have up their sleeves!

@user-up9rf3nw2i Күн бұрын

WEF all the way now @@susieare

@chatteyj Сағат бұрын

@@desmondpowell68 liar

@jacksonmiked 3 күн бұрын

Why not vote Reform then, rather than not vote, if you’re in a safe Labour seat?

@dastardlyman 3 күн бұрын

exactly thats my point. im in one of the safest labour seats

@davidhill5612 3 күн бұрын

He rightly thinks Reform are terrible

@utterlybutterly 3 күн бұрын

Because they are like the current Tories on steroids, because Farage knows he won't be in power he can promise all sorts , he is also feeding into the current group that we are all supposed to hate "Muslims" used to be Jews/Irish/ black etc. I find it disturbing that he talks of stopping shariah law but not Jewish law in Britain.

@boltjet1352 3 күн бұрын

Reform is a one man party with a hodgepodge collection of old tory wets and low intelligence grunts, it's not the way.

@jayggg 3 күн бұрын

@@davidhill5612 The man works for the insidious adult comic book called the Daily Mail. I don't think worthy of listening to myself. He's changed his mind more times than Starmer.

@anteep4900 3 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchens is right about voting against Labour, so I guess it'll have to be Reform ;)

@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 3 күн бұрын

A vote for Reform is a vote for the Labour Coronation.

@XMPhoto 3 күн бұрын

@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 I guess we should all vote Reform then ;)

@adrianryan5654 3 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchens is a smart guy but blinkered. You can see this in his history and compare vs his far superior older brother, which in part perhaps over influenced him, well tough act to follow in fairness… Hitchens C was consistent in his thinking but did evolve and mature. Hitchens P seems to have made sudden leaps to the opposite side and weirdly for a self proclaimed Trotskyite is now an arch conservative. The reality that seems to escape Hitchens P is that a vote for either Labour or the Tories (not conservative) is a vote for the Uniparty and a perpetuation of the corrupt globalist elite system. He is right that the Tories and Labour both “hate” the people, this is the globalist elites world view. Either pushes us closer to neo Feudalism, not neo Marxism, that is just the bait and switch ploy the elites are using on the wannabe Marxists (the deluded fools!). So he should be telling people to vote against the Uniparty but he seems to have a “kick the can down the road and how for a miracle” strategy. Well there is no such thing as miracles and gods help those who help themselves so the only possible vote to avoid a One World Government neo Feudalist future (aka serfdom) is a protest vote and the only possible protest vote is a Reform vote. You don’t have to like Reform or even want them to be a governmental party but such a vote shows the elites that the British people never, never, never, shall be slaves! You know the rest of the song! Sing it and remember who you are

@XMPhoto 3 күн бұрын

@@adrianryan5654 you are 100% right

@TheEskimosPantry 3 күн бұрын

@@adrianryan5654 Peter Hitchens is a smart guy but blinkered. No, he is just a professional contrarian. He sells his opinions for money. He needs to make sure his opinions cut through so he goes against the prevailing thought of the time. I agree, he is very smart, but I wonder what his real opinions are.

@davidanderson7138 3 күн бұрын

WHO are these millions of Labour voters?, are there really that many insane people in this country?

@inbb510 2 күн бұрын

I voted Labour. An honest manifesto is not a wishlist. It is a document that is being honest about what you can do and can't do.

@jamietherooster Күн бұрын

@@inbb510 Labours manifesto is meaningless. As peter says it reveals next to nothing about what they've got planned, and they haven't need it because the establishment + media have worked so hard to clear the path for them.

@mrnerdy3501 Күн бұрын

You probably don't live in an area or know many people with a difference of opinion to you. Yes there are millions of Labour supporters just go outside.

@jamietherooster Күн бұрын

@@mrnerdy3501 No, i do realise there are an awful lot of compliant sheep though

@matthewhammond859 Күн бұрын

Yes. Get out of the country. The UK population is hopeless.

@davidavery2629 3 күн бұрын

Peter's apparent glee at out imminent destruction is both unsettling and strangely comforting at the same time!

@JM_93 3 күн бұрын

Just make sure you don’t lure him there under false pretences.

@michaelyounes29 3 күн бұрын

Brilliant

@timfallon8226 3 күн бұрын

They tried to touch his pee pee.

@JM_93 3 күн бұрын

@@timfallon8226 would he storm out or would he allow it because although he doesn’t like it it’s the least worst option?

@d-jbradford1451 3 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Madonnalitta1 3 күн бұрын

Lmao.

@action1976 3 күн бұрын

I am all for voting against Labour, but I am not going to vote Tory either. Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧

@elvishprincess321 3 күн бұрын

Same, tories & labour are rotten.

@dazasc3994 3 күн бұрын

as a third generation immigrant that appreciates everything this country has provided for me, my parents and my grandparents in the 60's, I 100% agree with this. If that makes me a "racist" then so be it!

@MaestroPlaymaker 3 күн бұрын

You’re a fool then.

@kurt5079 3 күн бұрын

A vote for reform is essentially a vote for Labour unfortunately

@1234567marks 3 күн бұрын

A vote for reform is the first step along the depressingly short path to a fascist Britain, how soon we forget the lessons of history.

@lawolsten 3 күн бұрын

I look forward to meeting Peter one day, and hopefully shaking his hand and thanking him for shining a light on so many issues over his lifetime, that very few understand, nevermind bring light to. 👍👍

@cheechierocks 14 сағат бұрын

Whenever i hear Peter Hitchins, i just wonder what his brother would be saying about the same topic. Christopher Hitchins, you were a great mind and your contribution to academia discussion is very much missed. Douglas Murray, to me, now carries his baton. A voice of the sane and intelligentsia of the world today.

@louisgworld 3 күн бұрын

Hitchens actions would have us stuck in Tory/Labour purgatory.

@rocky76dude7 3 күн бұрын

You are though as brits will never vote for a true conservative libertarian party .If 10 million vote for reform , they'd get about 7 to 10 seats at best .

@ChrisMurray-iw9ij 3 күн бұрын

@@rocky76dude7And if 50 million do in 2029?

@dudeyfeb88coach 3 күн бұрын

2029 , wait and see the pop by then .They won't ,if there are that many and will be further left wing indoctrinated .

@JohnCollins 3 күн бұрын

Learn how to listen?

@andreaslind6338 3 күн бұрын

Well, just a Tory purgatory since he pretty much says Labour are closet communists

@masterofparsnips5327 3 күн бұрын

Vote Reform UK !!

@Wiganpilot 3 күн бұрын

I have voted Reform this morning, I want the dodgy Labour council out of my Town.

@doubledispatch6620 2 күн бұрын

Who else came here primarily to look for references to the Alex O'Conner interview in the comments?

@RandomAussieGuy87 Күн бұрын

*puts hand up*

@moonlightray8493 Күн бұрын

I'm here for the Christopher Hitchens nostalgia... even dying of cancer, he had more joie de vivre than his cynical, dour, killjoy of a brother.

@Eudaimonia88 12 сағат бұрын

@@moonlightray8493 Oh, how right you are! I'm here for the same reason. Christopher is greatly missed. I raise my glass to the late great Hitch! 🍷

@bri_____ 3 күн бұрын

Peter has spent a career explaining why it is necessary for either labour or the Tories to finally be crushed. And now, for the first time in his life, it is actually possible, and he bottles it!

@dftfire 3 күн бұрын

Hear hear (to quote Widdy!) Don't vote Reform now, he says. It's a wasted vote. But vote for a new, true Conservative party he envisions being created between now and the next general-election. But didn't explain why that one would be able to get through the barriers FPtP creates when Reform can't 🙃

@charleswhite758 3 күн бұрын

Bottled it on Brexit too, stayed home. The man is a mischievous former Marxist

@wilverbal 2 күн бұрын

His convictions are empty. This is a man who made a film arguing that Britain should leave the EU and then, in full knowledge that the only way for that to happen would be a referendum (because politicians would never vote for it), refused to vote because he doesn't believe in referenda. I used to think he was a smart man, but lately I've been disabused of this misconception.

@prhind4 2 күн бұрын

@@wilverbalyeh, he’s all over the place. Waste of time listening to him now.

@SmileyEmoji42 2 күн бұрын

You heard him - He has the naive idea that the Conservative party can be replaced without a long period of intervening Labour government.

@davidcross8028 3 күн бұрын

Hitchens is good at telling people what not to do, but he will never say what you should do, and he certainly NEVER says what he will do. Vote Reform UK

@OdditiesandRarities 3 күн бұрын

yep, just empty words from him. All he does it moan, he never suggests positive action.

@markshepperson3603 3 күн бұрын

He’s a clown that believe in a god.

@pierceferris 3 күн бұрын

Nonsense! He has been exactly clear, don’t vote in a way that will allow Labour to win!

@crouchingtiger9108 3 күн бұрын

@@pierceferris Labour are going to win regardless of anything. That's how broken the system is. PH is clueless, he votes against parties rather than what is right for the country. Reform will break the 2 and a half party deadlock but not this time round. This is reform landing on the map, who knows, it may be a much larger impact than anyone realises. There is a small chance that the silent voter shocks everyone. I doubt it though. Voting for Labour or Tory is as moronic as it gets.

@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 3 күн бұрын

@@crouchingtiger9108Reform UK Ltd will win no more than one seat because the vote is spread evenly countrywide across a great many constituency boundaries.

@sgs261 5 сағат бұрын

Could you just say 'I'm a Conservative' and save us all an hour?

@gtjust8188 2 күн бұрын

5 years of hell coming up people, brace yourselves.

@mrnerdy3501 Күн бұрын

If the next 5 years are going to be hell then what have the last 14 years been?

@gtjust8188 Күн бұрын

@@mrnerdy3501 exactly.

@harveydontell777 Күн бұрын

@mrnerdy3501 No, there won't be any comparison. The ordinary people in this country are in deep trouble, but the damage has been done so, better brace yourself! I can't believe people haven't seen this coming??? 😂😂😂

@mrnerdy3501 Күн бұрын

@@harveydontell777 you're all going to look so stupid when things get better over the next 5 years. Peter says in this episode how bad things got under Labour but he's pretty much lying. Every indicator shows things got better.

@harveydontell777 Күн бұрын

@@mrnerdy3501 The beauty of this is we can have a difference of opinion. I believe mine and you have yours.. I hope you're right but that same thought you have tells me different? I wish us all luck because we will need it. 👍

@JM_93 3 күн бұрын

I am voting reform, as cynical as it sounds I think this country needs to get a lot worse before people will wake up. Bring on a Labour government!!

@StuartNevin-ip1wg 3 күн бұрын

Unfortunately unless we get a miracle i think your right

@albundy774 3 күн бұрын

Funny a friend mine his son says maybe we should have a labour government and with any luck that will wake a few people up. After a few months I'm expecting buyers remorse to set in, that started to happen just short time after dementia Joe took office in the US.

@AventineArchives 3 күн бұрын

I think the UK is due a total failure of a government much like Macron's France. Come the next general election cycle hopefully thr right had gained enough momentum to make a strong stand.

@gommechops 3 күн бұрын

Yep, Peter has spent years saying the opposite to what he is now saying. Be brave he said, take the hit, let Labour in. Do it in such a major way it ended their opponents for good and allowed a genuine party of opposition to come in. That way it would replace both in time. Stop voting out of fear for the other side he said... Now though.... Oh no, don't do it now, don't do it this way... Right....

@reekinronald6776 3 күн бұрын

Voting Reform probably will speed up the collapse, not because of Reform has bad policy but because the reaction of the Left and the Bureaucracy to a Reform win. Similarly a Trump win will force the Left to take illegal and morally corrupt action to neutralize Trump. This will polarize the populous and create social collapse, but more importantly, it will drive away investment and warp the economic structure as political bribery, political nepotism will be the methods to economic success, not invention, nor improved productivity.

@goodyeoman4534 3 күн бұрын

Sorry Peter, I'm not convinced. I'll vote Reform.

@peterhitchens4240 3 күн бұрын

Enjoy the Labour government you will help to elect.

@tictoc5443 3 күн бұрын

Labour will win anyway IMO Reform will pull conservatives to the right and offer the opportunity for tactical voting and alliances jmo@@peterhitchens4240

@quaid667 3 күн бұрын

@@peterhitchens4240 don't you think voting Tory is a vote for Labour as well?

@NMn-dc5qo 3 күн бұрын

Lol. Yes. Vote Reform!

@RD-fm2wk 3 күн бұрын

Russian bots are going hard on KZfaq

@jartotable Күн бұрын

I've always got time for Hitchens.

@kevingiblin4122 Күн бұрын

Peter is called Peter is usually write not on everything but on this thing is right he's the man big up Pete

@markguest2698 3 күн бұрын

Save the country, vote Reform.

@craigcameron6450 3 күн бұрын

Nah. Be fucked if you are working class. They are a party for the rich in disguise.

@thenorfolkst 3 күн бұрын

Fool me once, shame on you ;fool me twice, shame on me 😎

@futures2247 3 күн бұрын

yeah give it to right wing public school boys because they are always on the side of the working class - dummy.

@FrancisFjordCupola 3 күн бұрын

If you think reform will be of any good to the British people, you deserve to be taken advantage of with every other scam you encounter.

@mauvem 2 күн бұрын

If you voted reform, you just got a whopping Labour majority.

@spo0ny2k 3 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchens is a thinker who can comment on things I know nothing about and can't question. Then he talks about something I know and makes no discernable sense.

@chrisweekes3193 2 күн бұрын

He keeps contradicting himself 😂

@zzzzz77771 Күн бұрын

His brother was the same

@spo0ny2k Күн бұрын

@@zzzzz77771 his brother was a more advanced processor.

@dirkcrafford1814 Күн бұрын

@@zzzzz77771 His brother was fucking awesome most of the time

@simony2801 18 сағат бұрын

@@dirkcrafford1814 his brother was awesome, Peter is much less impressive, just conceited and arrogant.

@LemonLimeFlavoured 5 сағат бұрын

Mum can we have Christopher Hitchens? We have Hitchens at home The Hitchens at home:

@glennsunman9859 2 күн бұрын

In the middle of a serious discussion ,an advert for ball trimmers , there’s no end to these boys talents!

@geejaybee 3 күн бұрын

British society has already been destroyed, and it was done jointly by the Labour and Conservative parties. I'm also voting against Labour, but it is for Reform.

@goodyeoman4534 3 күн бұрын

I'm off first chance I get. I know Australia is woke too, but at least it's warm and has more space.

@ollyperrooo 3 күн бұрын

Exactly. The party system is a farce. Whoever you vote for, the direction of travel will remain the same in varying degrees of pain.

@busking6292 3 күн бұрын

I like Peter H,don't always agree with him but one thing has always stood out about his views is that NOBODY is good enough to run the country,his standards and ideals are so high as to be impossible to achieve for ANYONE, I think he should be employed as a political advisor by whoever wins so the difficulties of making EVERYONE happy become apparent to him.

@ruaraidhmorrison5879 3 күн бұрын

Fucking hell 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Reform

@adam7802 2 күн бұрын

@@ruaraidhmorrison5879 Well who else is there? Green and Libs are very left if not far left, obviously Labour and Tories are a flat no... so what is your option? Spoil the ballot?

@mikadavies660 3 күн бұрын

If every Conservative voter moves to Reform and a few people who don't want to vote Labour.... also vote Reform. Then Reform would actually come to office.

@RJA 3 күн бұрын

Never happening reform will be 4th in this election behind the lib dems

@adrianryan5654 3 күн бұрын

@delver1857 3 күн бұрын

Reform can never take office, because only 15% of the country is racist

@filofilms 3 күн бұрын

Yeah, then we can have 5 years of people denying how bad Reform are as they get rich while not doing anything on their manifesto (sorry, I mean contract) and the country gets worse, but you know, flags and that.

@jamesbustin2837 3 күн бұрын

And Faridge would have to take actual responsibility and come with actual policies. Never going to happen.

@mikb5587 Күн бұрын

The hotel rooms await the thousands of doctors, lawyers and engineers braving the perilous journey of one hundred to a dinghy. Keir is such a gracious host with other peoples money.

@liamwodz5405 Күн бұрын

The damage they will do in such a short time should worry anyone. Anyone who voted labour is clearly impared mentally, or, of course on bemifits.

@calvinmarkpayne 3 күн бұрын

Careful being interviewed by comedians when you have no sense of humour. It could get awkward.

@danking7546 3 күн бұрын

The man is a humorless arsehole. He has a permanent cloud of smug hovering above his shoulders.

@Lextreem16 3 күн бұрын

This needs more likes. I think he unintentionally insulted the hosts by having no humour.

@christinalayzelle832 3 күн бұрын

@@Lextreem16 He never has any humour.

@mbg4041 3 күн бұрын

I said something similar but deleted it after watching a bit more. He expects others to giggle at his cynical “cleverness” but seems to take other’s sarcasm and jokes very seriously.

@Ralstro 3 күн бұрын

They were more like clowns on this occasion. My mum would have told Kisin "I'll wipe that smirk off your face."

@Tom-tz2jz 3 күн бұрын

Vote Reform

@johnblowes600 21 сағат бұрын

Too late it’s destroyed and it all started with Blair

@brecht9322 2 күн бұрын

He really is one of the most insufferable people in the world

@Jimjon24 2 күн бұрын

I like him, he has the right view on life.

@jcurran8860 2 күн бұрын

He's like a left winger with an mental Illness.

@johnhopkinson4054 2 күн бұрын

care to elaborate why

@jonathansamuel7033 Күн бұрын

Articulate , cultured , politically aware . Were you aware of the tremendous constitutional changes effected by the Blair regime and the long term impact ? No one talks about these things and neither about the fact that the present labour leaders were all trotskyists in their youth . That’s what makes him great . He’s complete right about the superficiality of the voting public who chose appearance over content . ( it appears from your comment that you too are of that ilk )

@CarDexter77 Күн бұрын

No sense of humour, makes it so awkward to watch.

@Gumblina1 3 күн бұрын

Vote Reform - we have nothing to lose but our nation Vote Reform 🗳

@sysasst670 3 күн бұрын

🇬🇧 I will never vote for Labour. Tories don't deserve my vote anymore. I am voting for Britain - I am voting Reform! 🇬🇧

@adrianryan5654 3 күн бұрын

@SEIKOAE86 3 күн бұрын

@@adrianryan5654100% he sounds like an old English Intellectual but this “Don’t Vote Reform” is just like controlled opposition. We have a vote and it should go to Reform so we Can make meaningful change. This Globalist Uniparty will destroy our democracy, institutions, culture and constitution!

@RandomWandrer 3 күн бұрын

@@adrianryan5654 RATHER vote green.

@andrewcheadle948 3 күн бұрын

@@RandomWandreroh come on now, that's a tad extreme!

@mark.e.p 3 күн бұрын

@RandomWandrer wasted vote but that's ok.

@Rhummie1 22 сағат бұрын

What a pleasure to listen to intelligent ideas well articulated

@louisebrown4622 3 сағат бұрын

Nigel is a Nationalist Peter he believes in British something you wouldn’t know about.

@untenableposition 3 күн бұрын

The Conservative Party is OVER, Peter... Long Live ➡Reform UK

@knightheaven8992 3 күн бұрын

exactly the new conservatives are not like the old conservatives at all... in fact the old conservatism is quite dead in the tory party... there is a reason why reform has a lot of the young vote not unlike other similar parties in the rest of Europe

@thetreelander7378 3 күн бұрын

@@knightheaven8992 the only damn party that isn't saying "we will do the same thing but better". honestly our democracy is turning into a soviet joke.

@FishingFan2 3 күн бұрын

And when it all goes wrong for Labour, Starmer will no doubt blame the Tories for his own incompetence.

@jackadams1864 3 күн бұрын

What like the Tories did for 14 years...

@adam7802 2 күн бұрын

@@jackadams1864 Yes, exactly like that. There both clowns.

@SimonLloydGuitar 2 күн бұрын

or the Jews

@SimonLloydGuitar 2 күн бұрын

@@jackadams1864 no, they blamed the electorate, brexit, ukraine, and Apollo rising in Uranus.

@III_Ed_B_III Күн бұрын

On the contrary, Peter.

@boogieboxmusic4331 3 күн бұрын

Always worth a listen is peter, very bright and honest commentator of our failed state..

@christysummers4766 3 күн бұрын

If you really want to vote against Labour, vote Reform. Tories don't stand a chance.

@maggieattenborrow6725 3 күн бұрын

Exactly, a Tory Vote is a wasted vote! Make your vote count, vote Reform!!!!

@rocky76dude7 3 күн бұрын

Not enough will and they don have enough candidates .Chances are lib tard dems will tie with Tories and so even less opposition .

@jaaguitar 3 күн бұрын

Disagree. This is not true in a lot of constituencies. People should vote for Suella, Kemi etc etc.

@kingdodgearcane 3 күн бұрын

Cringe

@darthvader822 3 күн бұрын

Yeah because Reform might win win 4 seats and the Tories will win at least 50. Not very good at math are you reform people? (and no I'm not voting for either as I have a >100 iq).

@doreenmusson4891 3 күн бұрын

Keir Starmer will be worse than Blair. Mr Hutchens is right.

@rocky76dude7 3 күн бұрын

I'd have a poster and statute in tribute to Blair in comparison to starmer and I loath Blair

@Monkey-fv2km 3 күн бұрын

Depends how you mean worse, but I don't think he has the leadership or force of character to do what Blair did.

@christinalayzelle832 3 күн бұрын

@@Monkey-fv2km That can only be a positive.

@StreetSoulLover 3 күн бұрын

@@Monkey-fv2km He won't need it with a 300+ seat majority

@Monkey-fv2km 3 күн бұрын

@@StreetSoulLover I'm not sure the majority will be that big, and we've just seen how easy it is for an incompetent government to squander a large majority. I'm not clairvoyant so I might be way off, but I can't see starmer doing the same damage as Blair. But we'll see in the very near future.

@iancormie9916 5 сағат бұрын

Pity that Reform gathered a significat portion of the vote but so few seats.

@jonnydoeson5562 2 күн бұрын

He’s basically just telling people to vote conservative without telling them to vote conservative. He’s great at bamboozle-baiting is Peter.

@Richie3264 3 күн бұрын

Peter is such an old curmudgeon. He's spent years calling for the destruction of the Tory Party at any cost, stating they're a left-wing party and no different from Labour. Now the opportunity appears and he's voting Tory. The cynical part of me feels he always has to be right in his own mind in his minority of one looking down his nose at others.

@elvishprincess321 3 күн бұрын

If the tory party is actually destroyed & replaced by a real conservative party that can fix Britain, he knows he will be out of a job as a professional doom monger.

@rogerdodger1790 3 күн бұрын

I've got a better word for him

@leakybean501 3 күн бұрын

🎯🎯🎯🎯

@YvonneSanders-hv2gc 3 күн бұрын

Then you obviously haven't watched this

@gommechops 3 күн бұрын

Exactly, it is right there to be had in this election, the very thing he has been crying for without hope over the past 2 decades and when it comes to it... No...

@donnastrom9640 18 сағат бұрын

Peter sounds sensible today. Stalling for time is a good tactic. One never knows what may happen whilst you staved off a certain threat.

@healingprotectioncreation7117 14 сағат бұрын

I believe in buying time. I'm not an accelerationist.

@TomJarvis2323 2 күн бұрын

Don’t vote for anything because it won’t be delivered… so why vote against something if it inevitably won’t be delivered?! 😂 you have to vote for what you want surely? Am I missing something?

@NMn-dc5qo 3 күн бұрын

He doesn't realise that Reform UK is viable!

@fanfeck2844 3 күн бұрын

But they aren’t this time, which is his point. There won’t be another chance next time, when Labour has put in measures that can’t be changed, like voting for sixteen year olds

@NMn-dc5qo 3 күн бұрын

@@fanfeck2844 They are I reckon. Tomorrow will tell....

@involuntarilychad4048 3 күн бұрын

@@fanfeck2844Don't underestimate the kids. There's a lot of outdated presumption by the left about them.

@Madonnalitta1 3 күн бұрын

@@fanfeck2844they never will be if we don't vote for them.

@johnomalley7335 3 күн бұрын

Watch the landslide tomorrow and realize you have been conned, Playing on your fear to finish off the Tory's and give um a massive majority.

@jamesbradley4209 3 күн бұрын

Remember 1948 Truman/Dewey US presidential election……Dewey was so far ahead in the polls that many of his supporters thought it was a done deal and didn’t turn up to vote! Let’s hope Labour supporters get complacent

@scotiabound3547 3 күн бұрын

The newspapers had their Front pages already printed, before the ballots were counted, proclaiming Dewey the winner.

@ifk_gbg 3 күн бұрын

"Dewey Defeats Truman"

@SussyBaka-zs3kj 2 күн бұрын

Reform beat Labour.

@percy832 3 күн бұрын

Labor will win a huge majority. It will turn out to be the biggest thorn in their side. After the honeymoon period the infighting will begin. Keeping control of all those backbenchers will be a nightmare.

@markhenry192 3 күн бұрын

Imagine my disappointment when I went to vote this morning to discover no Reform candidate! So, so disappointing.😢

@jonw3462 22 сағат бұрын

How come?

@markhenry192 18 сағат бұрын

@@jonw3462 No Reform candidate for my area.

@cherylparker8025 3 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchins should be a motivational speaker hes always so upbeat and positive about life.

@christinalayzelle832 3 күн бұрын

Love the sarcasm.

@CorinneDunbar-ls3ej 3 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@AceFreehley 3 күн бұрын

Reform UK, anyone?

@Gift-ll4nv 3 күн бұрын

No, as reform is run more like a limited company then a political party and has no chance in gaining any more then a handful of sets, voting reform just helps the Labour Party.

@christinalayzelle832 3 күн бұрын

Yes, please!

@Gift-ll4nv 3 күн бұрын

@@christinalayzelle832 Well reform have zero chance of gaining more than a handful of seats so why the enthusiasm for a political party with zero chances of ever gaining power.

@M_Bamboozled 3 күн бұрын

Nope.

@rkbrown2092 13 сағат бұрын

@@Gift-ll4nvthe British Government is a corporation, go figure!!

@gb1984yt Күн бұрын

So long as both sides are Davos stooges then nothing is going to change

@williamstephenson8250 Күн бұрын

This person was saying Britain was finished 10 years ago. Doomsday predictions lose their effect if you make them over and over again. Hitchen is a joyless misanthropist.

@michaelwoodroffe3544 17 сағат бұрын

He should get a room with David Starkey

@Norvik_-ug3ge 13 сағат бұрын

Uncomfortable truthteller.

@MrXaphus 5 сағат бұрын

Rome didn't fall in an instant, it was a slow process of decay and decline from which there was no return to glory. Hitchens argues that Britain reached that point of no return in 2010, and now it's all about damage limitation.

@hnxry_752 3 күн бұрын

Vote reform. If all brexiteers vote reform we will be fine

@timpavilion3156 3 күн бұрын

simple as

@sudenims5235 3 күн бұрын

I don’t care what he says , I couldn’t vote for someone who doesn’t know what a woman is and I can’t vote for someone who makes promises then does completely the opposite.

@RandomWandrer 3 күн бұрын

Britain has real problems. Who gives a p00p about gender. Kier knows what a woman is, but doesn't know how to answer the question without losing votes. Give labour a turn. At least they actually care.

@johnchristmas7522 3 күн бұрын

vOTE REFORM

@zoltan-zq3xe 3 күн бұрын

That's Labour and the Tories for you woke and weak.

@stuartwalters8609 2 күн бұрын

The second part of your statement is simply the definition of a politician

@jumblestiltskin1365 2 күн бұрын

And a kneeler to grievances

@Graxanful 3 күн бұрын

My father in his 70s suggests forming the Guy Faulks party. I don't think he is being humerous. I'll be voting Reform. Labour and Conservatives have had one vote from me each. Never again.

@FrancisFjordCupola 3 күн бұрын

Ah, yes. Please vote reform. I would love to see the UK sliding downwards further and faster. You know what kind of person Farage is, right?

@Graxanful 3 күн бұрын

@@FrancisFjordCupola I don't care what 'kind of person' any of the politicians are. All I care about is that they fulfil the policies they promote. That is the very problem with modern politics. Too much signalling of virtue and not enough keeping promises.

@SmileyEmoji42 2 күн бұрын

@@Graxanful At best you are voting for someone with no track record at all over someone with a bad track record. That requires a level of optimism that is contrary to the rest of the sentiment in your comment.

@lumpyfishgravy 2 күн бұрын

The UK election is on US Independence Day. The USA election is on Guy Fawkes' Night. An entertaining coincidence.

@grungehog 3 күн бұрын

Not voting is voting for Labour, so I'm voting reform.

@mliam0709 3 күн бұрын

Depending on your constituency, voting for Reform could actually hand a victory to Labour. It really was stupid to vote against the AV referendum that the Lib Dems brough forward in 2011. If it had passed Reform/Ukip, the Greens, and Lib Dems would be all be strong parties with several MPs and would be highly unlikely that Labour would ever win a majority on their own. Instead, Labour on less than 40% of the vote could end up with over 60% of the seats.

@adrianryan5654 3 күн бұрын

@Mors_Inimicis 3 күн бұрын

@@mliam0709Very good point . It’s with your first point in mind that I have just voted to keep this constituency conservative. It’s nice here , the houses have families not flats full of illegals and wrong uns .

@Wouter-dj2pm 2 сағат бұрын

Terrifying.

@simonpapworth8974 3 күн бұрын

Always interesting to hear from Peter Hitchens, very thought provoking as ever.

@philipk9783 3 күн бұрын

He presents himself as the only person that understands politics. Odious man.

@zzzzz77771 Күн бұрын

Everyone speaks in the same way. Nobody argues their point assuming they're wrong, especially in today's world. The differnce with Peter is the way he delivers his opinion.

@chrisbirch6513 Күн бұрын

With respect he's been right about many many things over the years. More than any other

@j0rd4 Күн бұрын

@@chrisbirch6513Completely agree, he's been right on so many big issues and it's clear he wants the best outcome for people. If you cannot understand why this drives cynicism through attrition then you are the one who's odious.

@CONSIDERABLYMORE1 Күн бұрын

@@chrisbirch6513name them, with dated source material.

@chrisf9377 3 күн бұрын

Voting Labour to kick the Conservatives out is like having cancer and then claiming that you can cure yourself by walking under a bus.

@GK-qc5ry 3 күн бұрын

Really, so their plan for the last 14 years has worked well? They are the only ones qualified enough to run the country? They are talent less.

@Ralphieboy2023 3 күн бұрын

Very few people are suggesting that. They are suggesting that you Vote Reform.

@robbie_ 3 күн бұрын

@@Ralphieboy2023 I don't think Reform has the answers either.

@RandomWandrer 3 күн бұрын

@robbie_ Reform has no answers. Tories aren't even a single party anymore. Give Labour a shot. At least they care. Did anyone read the manifesto? Even a small thing like providing breakfast at school for poor children is worth 100x more than the gender blahblahblah

@thinfourth 3 күн бұрын

bus is quick and messy bus please

@PaulRoundhill 2 күн бұрын

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE DEAD BADGER - HE'S ACTUALLY BEGINNING TO BE SENSIBLE.

@perseus431 17 сағат бұрын

Dont bring up drugs or he'll "actively dislike you".

@some1online2 3 күн бұрын

Reform is the only option this election.

@wendyholland2339 3 күн бұрын

Vote Reform people it time to take her back ❤

@geoffreyhodgson5017 8 сағат бұрын

I always preferred the other Hitchens, Christopher never shared Peters' obsession with what people choose to do in the bedroom, nor with Scottish or Welsh people having more of a say in their daily lives.

@chrisweekes3193 2 күн бұрын

What is he talking about?! “You can vote against it” also “I won’t be voting because there’s no point” what?! Wow how amazingly helpful

@markjeffery7319 3 күн бұрын

So presumably on the basis of voting against Labour in Clacton would mean voting Reform? Hitchens won't say that, I've agreed with Peter Hitchens for decades but whether he likes it or not he's a contrarian.

@-tom-8720 3 күн бұрын

Of course he would say that, vote for anyone other than Labour

@mikadavies660 3 күн бұрын

Clear enough... Don't vote Labour. Totally agree. Vote Reform.

@microwaves25 2 күн бұрын

How miserable would the UK look like if we followed this man's word. A sadist, a masochist and just the most exhausting commentator on the circuit.

@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons 2 күн бұрын

The UK is lot more miserable today than in the 1990s. As someone who lived through it I can tell you that for a fact

@samheyman09 20 сағат бұрын

Very well said @microwaves25 ❤

@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons 18 сағат бұрын

@@samheyman09 Sounds like you don't know what sadist & masochist mean any more than you know what woman or fascism mean

@microwaves25 15 сағат бұрын

@@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons you're great fun.

@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons 14 сағат бұрын

@@microwaves25 Thankfully I grew up when were still allowed to have a laugh, before the dark times before... _political correctness_ 🥶

@gillps5130 2 күн бұрын

Peter Hitchens' definition of conservatism is fabulously nostalgic, and desirable.

@Random_Blip 3 күн бұрын

The British public would be wise to remember what damage the previous Labour governments did to the country (namely 1974-1979 and 1997-2010).

@charleswhite758 3 күн бұрын

Unfortunately we need to remind ourselves in practice once every so often. Like with children, you can tell them not to put their fingers in the flame and that fire is hot, but nothing proves it better than when they stick a finger in it to see for themselves. We'll survive, and Reform will grow stronger.

@jumblestiltskin1365 2 күн бұрын

@@charleswhite758grow stronger while at the same time more centrist and liberal. This is the entropy of politics now in the west.

@paulhickmott1770 2 күн бұрын

sadly people seem to have short memories

@peter6914 2 күн бұрын

I'll take 1997-2010 Labour over 2010-2024 Tories any day of the week personally.

@davidkessler6878 2 күн бұрын

The previous labour government was a roaring success compared to the pound shop Mickey Mouse shower of shit we have endured for the last 14 years.

@DJJ81 3 күн бұрын

I’m surprised Peter took that opening joke so hard. I dont know, I’m not British, but that didn’t seem like a sly insult to me

@rogerdodger1790 3 күн бұрын

Watch 10 minutes of him he takes any opposition to his points hard. Complete drip

@xnixor 3 күн бұрын

I’m an American and he just came off as an asshole for that

@GreenWhitePurple 3 күн бұрын

I’m British and wondering where his sense of humour is. I imagined it was affectionate ribbing, or an amused/bemused observation. I think PH practically challenging KK to a duel over it as a perceived insult was a bit uncalled for. If he was unable to laugh it off, he could have just quietly explained.

@ryantate6447 3 күн бұрын

@@GreenWhitePurpleyeh a sense humour is needed, their only words

@YvonneSanders-hv2gc 3 күн бұрын

He knows it wasn't meant as an insult but the inference is that he has no thoughts of his own and only disagrees to be a dick

@BaamBaamBaam 2 күн бұрын

This country is in serious trouble and things are going to be far worse under a Labour Government.

@SubjectRandom21 2 күн бұрын

🎯

@haraldeptor9338 7 сағат бұрын

What a horrible piece of advice to waste your vote on voting against something. Always move toward something, kids. Don't run away like cowards.

@Novabug 3 күн бұрын

Don't want Labour or the Tories or the Lib Dems.... so by Peter's logic, I'm voting against them.

@christopherjones67 3 күн бұрын

Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧. PR is the answer. Give the vote to 16/17 years old & they'll vote Reform.

@charleswhite758 3 күн бұрын

Teenagers will vote in the opposite way to their parents. We've all been there, we were all rebellious teenagers in our youth. That is not a good basis for democracy, which requires mature consideration of the issues. 16/17 is too young to vote. It would be a measure which would come back to bite any party in the backside, at the next cycle.

@blueheaven6258 3 күн бұрын

After we see Labour with a two hundred seat majority with less than 40% of the vote we will see how undemocratic FPTP voting is. Reform will get more votes than the Lib Dems but just a handful of seats if they are lucky

@simonepleton765 3 күн бұрын

I just cast my vote - Reform UK.

@jonathanbeattie3410 2 күн бұрын

With our voting system unfortunately you’ve more than likely voted for Labour indirectly

@Jman-qf6wo 2 күн бұрын

REFORM UK 🇬🇧

@2strokesmoke783 3 күн бұрын

a Labour government scares the sh!t out of me! voting Labour is akin to Turkeys voting for Christmas

@louispearson8306 3 күн бұрын

Why exactly?

@2strokesmoke783 3 күн бұрын

@@louispearson8306 if you don't know, then you clearly haven't been paying attention over the last 6 weeks, I've watched hours upon hours of debates, speeches, clips, and everything points to a leader that will tell you one thing and then do another, I other words a liar! He's a woke socialist snake, if you think things were bad under the tories you haven't seen nothing yet.

@13tgd 2 күн бұрын

Me to labour will be the nail in the coffin ⚰️ for the uk it's scary they will radically start putting even more laws to destroy the people

@louispearson8306 2 күн бұрын

@@13tgd Oh ok. Which laws are we talking about sorry?

@user-ur2ej4ul8t 2 күн бұрын

Scares me too with comrade starmer and his clowns in number 10

@2strokesmoke783 3 күн бұрын

Vote Reform 👊 keep spreading the word 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@johnjackson2834 Күн бұрын

I'm a fan of Peter; I enjoy and am challenged by listening to him. I have to say I've heard him on a number of occasions claim our Constitution has been damaged. We don't have a Constitution. We have tradition and expectation.

@fredneecher1746 17 сағат бұрын

Of course we have a constitution. It's the structure of government, who has the power to do what. It doesn't have to be written down. It can be imbodied in what you call, belittlingly and inaccurately, tradition and expectation.

@ConorRhysB 2 сағат бұрын

Drug decriminalisation illogical? Say that to Portugal who successfully changed their society by doing so.

@latest3dsgames 3 күн бұрын

Reform all the way

@tim2muntu954 3 күн бұрын

"What’s more, Starmer himself is an avowed enemy of press freedom. As director of public prosecutions in the 2010s, he showed an alarming determination to drag journalists through the courts. He led the persecution of 30 reporters who were arrested and charged under Operation Elveden - most of whom worked for the Sun, as it happens. They spent years on police bail, their careers were left in tatters, and some attempted suicide. Not one was ever convicted of any crime. The police operation began in 2011 and the last journalist was cleared in 2016. This was a witch-hunt against journalists you would expect to see in China, and our soon-to-be PM was the witch-finder general. To this day, Starmer has refused to apologise for this grotesque abuse of state power against the press." Fraser Myers

@joedee1863 Күн бұрын

@@tim2muntu954 -storm trooper starmer.