WHY I Traded The Honda Jet For A TBM

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MojoGrip

MojoGrip

Күн бұрын

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Greg had always been a fan of flying. When he became successful in business and could finally afford to buy his own aircraft, he bought a Cirrus. Then a Cirrus Jet, Then a Honda Jet
At first, Greg was thrilled with his Honda Jet. It was sleek, fast, and had all the latest technology. But after a few years of ownership, he began to realize that the jet wasn't really fitting his needs.
For one thing, it was expensive to maintain and operate. The Honda Jet required a lot of fuel and had high maintenance costs. And like any other jets, it required a strict currency and training for the pilot. the cost of ownership just became more cumbersome particularly in time.
That's when Greg started looking into turboprop planes. He had always been intrigued by them, and after doing some research, he found that the TBM Turboprop was a great option. It was fast, efficient, and could literally travel at Jet speed for a fraction of the operating cost.
So, Greg decided to make the trade. He sold his Honda Jet and purchased a TBM 930 turboprop.
The plane was nimble, responsive, and a joy to fly. Greg loved being able to land on smaller runways and the TBM has reverse throttle which made braking in short fields effortless.
In the end, Greg realized that the Honda Jet was just too much plane for his needs. The TBM Turboprop was the perfect choice for him, and he couldn't be happier with his decision to make the trade.
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@notmatt2127
@notmatt2127 Жыл бұрын
This guy is what an enthusiast should be. Whether its sneakers, cars, etc its great listening to people talk about what they love
@Dennco2000
@Dennco2000 Жыл бұрын
Can’t argue it’s not about having what you want but more so wanting what you have. I was busting chops but is a good video.
@daszieher
@daszieher Жыл бұрын
​@@Dennco2000 The worst thing in life is having what you want and love and not having time to use it or even take care of it.
@mojah1
@mojah1 Жыл бұрын
@@daszieher precisly ✅
@Kimoto504
@Kimoto504 8 ай бұрын
He's just *(air)plane* crazy, and I like that about him.
@Trevor_Austin
@Trevor_Austin Жыл бұрын
I’m an ex-airline pilot (F50/F70/F100/E175/E190). If I had the choice, I’d also buy a turbo-prop instead of a jet. It’s better on fuel, especially at low level, requires less runway, has a lower approach speeds, weighs less and is more forgiving when you bugger it up. This was a sensible move.
@spiller212
@spiller212 Жыл бұрын
but when you consider the price delta between an SF50 and a TBM960, you can buy a lot of maintenance and gas for that jet ;)
@Trevor_Austin
@Trevor_Austin Жыл бұрын
@@spiller212 Yes you can. But it’s (well it should be) all about functionality and utility. Saving seconds here and there and having to mess about trying to get climbs and “directs” is not part of the fun. Beside, on short journeys a quick turbo prop will beat almost any jet which means we are talking about longer trips. So how far do you want to fly without being able to have a piss. Also, remember you can also forget about having a beer or two and curry or a kebab on the way home from the pub the night before.
@embededfabrication4482
@embededfabrication4482 Жыл бұрын
@@Trevor_Austin i just pee in a pop bottle, is that wrong?
@metalman69201
@metalman69201 Жыл бұрын
@@embededfabrication4482 It works for me!!
@TecnamTwin
@TecnamTwin Жыл бұрын
​@@Trevor_Austin But then you still have a prop plane instead of a jet.
@markfrank0924
@markfrank0924 3 ай бұрын
This is one of the better interviews; this man is honest, articulate, and has thought this through. I love his no-nonsense presentation.
@tripodcatz5532
@tripodcatz5532 Жыл бұрын
I traded my Honda Civic for a riding lawn mower. I'm making a KZfaq video about the process.
@brianmcg321
@brianmcg321 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@sumtingwong8768
@sumtingwong8768 Жыл бұрын
At least you can ride in more style
@tripodcatz5532
@tripodcatz5532 Жыл бұрын
@@sumtingwong8768 Maybe. Until I get pulled over and the police smell grass.
@reboot1391
@reboot1391 Жыл бұрын
@@tripodcatz5532 You missed the chance to say WEED
@timblack33
@timblack33 Жыл бұрын
I think my mower listed for more than a civic.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
with the first 10 seconds, i knew exactly why he went from Jet to Turbo prop. Alaska.
@jrossi9250
@jrossi9250 Жыл бұрын
For those who haven't won the lottery... A Cessna 182 is a pretty good alternative. I flew my 182rg with 2 axis autopilot and a storm scope for many years. IFR training is mandatory regardless of your insurance requirements. You will find yourself in unusual weather at some point and need the skills. I found myself in a low fog bank off the coast of FL at the end of the runway and had to execute a 180 safely. I'm still here!
@laurentsamson8927
@laurentsamson8927 11 ай бұрын
I agree with most of what you say but I will never understand "pilot" saying that you need an IFR rating to be proficiency enough to do a 180 safely in IMC without AP. It's a basic maneuver you should have learned to pass a PPL. Have you learned something?
@jrossi9250
@jrossi9250 11 ай бұрын
I said IFR training, not rating.@@laurentsamson8927
@GlobetechtruthJF
@GlobetechtruthJF 5 ай бұрын
You both may have a point and I do not see a disagreement there other than one upmanship, however, being a former test pilot their is nothing non proficient about lacking an IFR rating but if you have the training you will be glad when you need it. and the other point you dont learn shit with a PPL which is a non proficent rating and that accomplishment should be understood at that stage, secondly a 180 turn at 300 feet off the step to avoid a collision with only a loss of 50 feet of altitude boardering higher DL at 3000' is proficiency, that will not be taught in any PPL lesson of heard of but I am 75 and still enjoy when I can. This video was great and going to look into this TBM and this instructor, just maybe an old dog can still learn few new tricks. Be safe, and have fun...its a beautiful passion of mine. Cheers
@misham6547
@misham6547 5 ай бұрын
For short range its good, but long range it has outdated aerodynamic since its a flying brick; something like a last gen Cirrus might be a better thing depending on mission
@sandman1347
@sandman1347 Жыл бұрын
Great video! This man has very good problems to have!
@AreSeeModdler
@AreSeeModdler Жыл бұрын
Yes, sir...definitely a nice problem to have
@alexkram
@alexkram Жыл бұрын
I can really relate to this. I'm always tired of my piston engine planes taking too long to get places, and my jets aren't versatile enough to land at my remote ranches. These are problems we all face though, right guys?
@ictpilot
@ictpilot 11 ай бұрын
Don't you just hate having first world problems? 😂
@GS-zc4sk
@GS-zc4sk 5 ай бұрын
If I had a Nickel for every time I can't land in Monterey for the Barrett Jackson auction just because my Honda Elite needs more runway. Gets old.
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 3 ай бұрын
I used to share in that struggle. Then I bought a 747-400 Combi so that I can use it to go long range to a 8,000' runway, and then if my destination is a shorter runway (it usually is), I unload my TBM 850 out of the back of the 747 and fly it there. I know I have an old model TBM but I didn't want to buy a brand new one and then modify the wings to fold up so I can get it into my 747. Like my 30 year-old 747 that I bought out of the desert, the TBM is not a new one either, but it gets the job done! I don't mind "slumming it" with my old airplanes. And it leaves me more money to buy Ferraris.
@maddawg4417
@maddawg4417 29 күн бұрын
@@StratMatt777 I used to own an a380 as I had a huge cigar collection and golfed internationally on the weekends but always struggle to find a runway for the 380. I had to settle for the tbm 700 too as I didn’t want to have to sell my cigar collection just to put a few accessories to attach it to my a380. I get to keep my cigars and my Ferraris too now.
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 29 күн бұрын
@@maddawg4417 I have a similar story, but not involving cigars.The struggle IS real..
@gcm747
@gcm747 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny he mentions it. I had a race with my mate in his jet just the other day. He beat me but boy did we have fun and laugh and laugh.
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 3 ай бұрын
Tom Cruise?
@BobbeeSingh
@BobbeeSingh Жыл бұрын
Was hoping to hear why he bought the Honda Jet and Cirrus Vision to begin with and what were the drawbacks of these aircrafts specifically.
@Utahforrest
@Utahforrest Жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m missing something but didn’t he list the drawbacks in this video? 1) total expenditure 2) less capable in inclement weather 3) short field performance
@AA752
@AA752 Жыл бұрын
And specifically also too expensive to train in regularly to maintain proficiency.
@BIGJOESXR
@BIGJOESXR Жыл бұрын
No TR on the Honda. And the first gen lands squirrelly. Other than that, they're a home run. My company manages & flies a bunch of them. They'll land & stop in 1500' empty, even without TR, so idk where this short field complaint comes from
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Жыл бұрын
@@BIGJOESXR Mostly unimproved strips. Landing HondaJet on a muddy short field. Bad idea, just from potential FOD. He talked about it in the video.
@BIGJOESXR
@BIGJOESXR Жыл бұрын
@@helicopterdriver fair enough. But I wouldn't be landing a tbm in the mud either. I'd go for the 206.
@byrnc927
@byrnc927 Жыл бұрын
Why was I even sent a link to this video? I drive a 2004 Buick LeSabre, I barely make enough money to keep up with inflation, and rising rent on my shitty apartment, and I am recommended this tragic story.
@malibujack4852
@malibujack4852 Жыл бұрын
TBMs are nice, but I do love my Piper Malibu for a fraction of the acquisition and operating costs. I can haul six in pressurized comfort in the flight levels doing 225 knots on 16 gph. Non-stop range over 1700 nm and a useful load of 1400 lbs. I have the Continental 550C conversion. Wonderful engine.
@fudogwhisperer3590
@fudogwhisperer3590 Жыл бұрын
I've heard the service ceiling for the Malibu isn't that of a turbine, nor is the take off performance with high density altitude. I wonder how the TBM compares to the Mirage and the Pilatus.
@fudogwhisperer3590
@fudogwhisperer3590 Жыл бұрын
I've heard the service ceiling for the Malibu isn't that of a turbine, nor is the take off performance with high density altitude. I wonder how the TBM compares to the Mirage and the Pilatus.
@malibujack4852
@malibujack4852 Жыл бұрын
@@fudogwhisperer3590 the Malibu was certified to 25000. I fly most long-distance legs at that altitude. The PA-46 Jetprop FL270. The TBM goes to FL310. My experience has been that if you can’t top convective weather by FL250 it’s unlikely that FL310 is going to be that much better. What FL250 to FL310 gives you is clear air to see and avoid the cumulonimbus buildups. Unless you have a jet capable of FL450, there is practically no difference between FL250 and FL310. With regard to takeoff performance there is no denying that a turboprop has considerably more power than a piston, but I’ve never had a problem with the twin-turbo Malibu and I’ve flown it many times in the high-altitude west. Although the Malibu won’t have the same climb performance as the TBM, I can tell you that my Malibu will climb 1300 fpm fully loaded on a hot day all the way into the mid to high teens and then about 700-1000 all the way to FL250 and my CHTs never get above 360 degrees. For the money, the PA-46 is hard to beat. A good used one will run you $600K to $1.1M whereas a used TBM is considerably north of that. I can run my Malibu for about $350/hr. I know the TBM hourly rate is higher. Again, I love the TBM; it is a fantastic aircraft. Just providing an alternate perspective for those that may want similar performance on a much lower budget. Fly safe . . .
@guenthermichaels5303
@guenthermichaels5303 Жыл бұрын
​@@fudogwhisperer3590 Pilatus is bigger, slower, longer range and costs more to operate.
@placidbeach
@placidbeach Жыл бұрын
​@@malibujack4852 thank you so much for that valuable insight
@jonnydlux5533
@jonnydlux5533 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy! The TBM is amazing. Can’t wait to fly one and I agree with everything he said. He’s spot on!
@richiekock8835
@richiekock8835 Жыл бұрын
Me at 50: searching online for info on damaged balljoints and lower arms for my car .... these guys at 40: talking bout why they changed jets
@TM-tw1py
@TM-tw1py Жыл бұрын
For only $1 million annually, you can own the same group of aircraft this gentlemen has. Pretty small group of people fit into that category.
@adventuresofalphapop
@adventuresofalphapop Жыл бұрын
All airplanes are used in a commercial context, ie, "dry leased" and I expect to conform them to air charter. My rule of airplanes is that they have to pay for themselves, and if they don't can't, I trade out of them. The planes I have are to, in future, service guests and logistics to Alaska. Meanwhile they used predominately for instruction/training.
@TM-tw1py
@TM-tw1py Жыл бұрын
@@adventuresofalphapop I see your point about the aircraft being for commercial use, which sounds like an awesome way to own planes. Just a bit hard for me to process owning assets of that high value - yet a turboprop would be my dream. Thanks for your great video!
@koldplayz1
@koldplayz1 Жыл бұрын
But when your in that category, that’s your world.
@cockyrooster361
@cockyrooster361 Жыл бұрын
yup about 1% of the population....
@j.thomas7128
@j.thomas7128 Жыл бұрын
56.1 Million millionaires in the world. I'm not convinced the market is small. :)
@j.angelis6934
@j.angelis6934 Жыл бұрын
Love this format Mojo
@LFOD1776
@LFOD1776 Жыл бұрын
I love this guy. Living the American dream!!!!
@jackmiller1946
@jackmiller1946 7 ай бұрын
A very close family friend had a similar experience. He used to own a King Air 300, went to a CJ1 and settled in a TBM
@n6hgg1
@n6hgg1 Жыл бұрын
Comparing a "jet to a turbine"? Last I checked, one is a jet and one is a turboprop. They are both turbines.
@aviation.satire
@aviation.satire Жыл бұрын
2:22 “it can even go in reverse so you can actually back out of a tight spot don’t act like you haven’t ever wanted to do that, I know I have” 😂😂
@Utahforrest
@Utahforrest Жыл бұрын
Love this guy! TBMs are sweet aircraft.
@hugostiglitz47
@hugostiglitz47 Жыл бұрын
I love flying the TBM in flight simulator, If one day I become successful enough to own one I will absolutely do it
@shoop4040
@shoop4040 3 күн бұрын
I love this guy- If I could I would sign up in a minute with him....
@dlvox5222
@dlvox5222 Жыл бұрын
Very neat video. I learned a ton.
@JMX246
@JMX246 Жыл бұрын
great insight and comments
@ryanmontisnlp
@ryanmontisnlp Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown! Thanks!
@rayhowell7002
@rayhowell7002 Ай бұрын
Hi Greg from South Africa 🇿🇦. I would love to tap into your experience and knowledge. Keep it coming bud 👍
@johannjohann6523
@johannjohann6523 10 ай бұрын
Cool looking turboprop. I just like the 2 engine idea. And the Cirrus having a safety parachute is a pretty cool idea. Pilots are great people, and excellent role mosdels. They know how to get things done right the first time.
@GS-zc4sk
@GS-zc4sk 5 ай бұрын
I'm $urprised these newer personal aircraft Don't have that safety chute implemented by now. Nothing good replace that countermeasure.
@DigitallFlesh
@DigitallFlesh Жыл бұрын
Man, I love the TBM 930. I fly it all of the time in microsoft flight simulator and enjoy it more than the jets in the simulator, because I can land it about anywhere. That's from someone who has never flown a real plane, but really want to. I've been thinking about going to flight school the past two years, but don't want to fly for the big airlines, but more rural hard to get places and this plane just has got me obsessed. It's a damn fine bird for sure, and I would love to fly one someday. They are a good chunk of change to buy though.
@joehiatt1992
@joehiatt1992 10 ай бұрын
Im flyin my Potensic Atom& Holystone drones & love it,love to get one of these.
@michaelreamy4030
@michaelreamy4030 2 ай бұрын
53-year pro-pilot with five jet-type ratings. Corporate & airline background, now flying a 960. Comments are spot on.
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 Жыл бұрын
The pc24 would be a great plane to look into too. I assume that will be more costly to operate since its a jet. I would love to own a TBM.
@marcbungener1877
@marcbungener1877 11 ай бұрын
interesting and concise - thank you
@kurtrain7560
@kurtrain7560 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and he understands the learning process is a lifelong thing. I wouldn't be afraid to fly with him❤, even if he only started 6 years ago, it seems he has put his time into it.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
Given that he "retired", he probably had nothing but time to put into it.
@stevenkaskus6173
@stevenkaskus6173 Жыл бұрын
I've seen some planes being flown full time in Alaska and I think the Best aircraft for their various places they need to land is the Otter what is your opinion on that planes capability compared to this one in your video?
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything that he said, but, the price of this thing's crazy. Maybe consider doing a video of the m500m 600 Piper vs tbm
@nythawkfpv
@nythawkfpv Жыл бұрын
TBM outperforms the piper in every aspect lol. The meridians/M-class are less expensive by a good margin tho. Not saying they’re bad, but the TBM is just so much better.
@mojogrip
@mojogrip Жыл бұрын
I actually plan to do a comparison with the turboprops starting with the Piper M500
@lollipopjuggs
@lollipopjuggs Жыл бұрын
Is the Beechcraft Denali an option?
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
@@lollipopjuggs the Deb does not have pressurized cabin
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
@@lollipopjuggs wait, you said Denali .... That may compete well
@Fireteam1
@Fireteam1 Жыл бұрын
great video
@stonehorn4641
@stonehorn4641 2 ай бұрын
Yup. Here I am with my Piper Tom and Cessna 152 doing short trip oilfield delivery thinking I was doing real well 😂 Im adding a carbon cub for deliveries where I don’t have a real strip. Already got a pilot for it, she’s probably the most natural vfr pilot Ive ever met. I currently have her doing her commercial training while I wait for delivery of the cub. She’s small, and keeping weight down is important. It’s crazy how many times these companies hire us to drop off small, cheap, but necessary items, and sometimes people.
@KakinhoZancan
@KakinhoZancan Жыл бұрын
Great video. I fly an PC12. What’s your opinion on PC24?
@sebrofc
@sebrofc 9 ай бұрын
Nice lineup
@cecielhelder5923
@cecielhelder5923 10 ай бұрын
He wasn’t lying when he said he collects aircraft.🙂
@michaeljohnson1761
@michaeljohnson1761 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Does Greg have a channel or page to find out more about him and his lodge?
@robertcrist8621
@robertcrist8621 8 ай бұрын
excellent video-great channel
@orthopraxis235
@orthopraxis235 9 ай бұрын
I agree with turbine over small jet for all your reasons. Why, though, since you are so thorough on the turbine, did you pick a free turbine like the pt6 compared to a single shaft. Single shafts provide even more efficiency and they have a near instantaneous response to input. Wouldn't an engine like a honeywell tpe variant give you more of the exact things you are looking for? Maybe it's splitting hairs, but you would likely go faster and/or further on the same fuel with a single shaft engine. Overall great video and very intelligent presentation and complete. You sound like you would also be a good business person to work with.
@jeffs.2752
@jeffs.2752 Жыл бұрын
Curious why not a King Air like a 90, great short field and an extra engine.
@LokiDWolf
@LokiDWolf Жыл бұрын
WOW!!! That's so cool! I know in the sim I play the TBM a LOT. As well as the Vision. Lately it's been the Diamond T-62. I love this video! Keeps my passion going towards getting that license one day.
@jazzandbluesculturalherita2547
@jazzandbluesculturalherita2547 Жыл бұрын
Well-spoken and well-reasoned arguments in favor of the TBM. I'm guessing that your regular or largest fraction of your flying environment is better served by a turboprop-powered aircraft. 323 KTAS is "FAIRLY" close to 400 KTAS. What about the comparable range? What about the time-to-climb to assigned altitude, vertical airspeed in the climb, and true airspeed in the climb? PT-6 powered aircraft sometimes lose time in the climb, and thus their range is shortened.
@clayboy699
@clayboy699 11 ай бұрын
cooool setup !
@rowanditcham9617
@rowanditcham9617 Жыл бұрын
Great video, fantastic interview honest, great enthusiastic Guy
@wayne9638
@wayne9638 Жыл бұрын
Amazing guy, only real benefit of jet over tbm is ability to get high over the weather
@openbabel
@openbabel 3 ай бұрын
This must be for comparison. the smaller brother of the PC 12....does this TBM have better stall capabilities ? Whats the range and hourly consumption compared with the PC 12 NGx ? No toilet option, what about star link these days in moving situations ?
@DocJS
@DocJS Жыл бұрын
If he said "rural missions " one more time, I thought I'd hurl!
@rickdc3
@rickdc3 11 ай бұрын
Good choice for short field missions. I prefer my Eclipse 500 with two engines instead of one, and ability to fly FL410 above the weather. Similar operating costs to the TBM but much safer. However, I do need a longer runway, especially if wet, so it wouldn't be the best choice for you.
@smellysam
@smellysam Жыл бұрын
Man, I was hoping for a TBM Avenger!
@user-bu3iw4ph7n
@user-bu3iw4ph7n Жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@DetVen
@DetVen 8 ай бұрын
The way he explains the TBM and what it has and how it performs almost sounds like some IT smuck like me can learn to fly it 😏
@BuzzMoves365
@BuzzMoves365 7 ай бұрын
It’s a cute plane. Enjoy. However, I’d go for a twatter. Slow, reliable, fixed gear, rough field Sledge Hammer!
@mattgreven7615
@mattgreven7615 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos comparing the TBM to Pilatus?
@triedproven9908
@triedproven9908 Жыл бұрын
Can't argue with anything he said. The TBM just fits, and the next best thing from that is a cessna twin or even a beechcraft twin if you can find one, but the step up from the TBM would be the Pilatus PC-24 and aint nobody got cash for that.
@tuckernielson1
@tuckernielson1 Жыл бұрын
Can we get some information on Greg's alaskan fly-in lodge?
@ishankramer
@ishankramer Жыл бұрын
Great video with many interesting points... Just curious, wouldn't a Pilatus PC-12 be more appropriate for the missions you seem to have? Better short field performance, can land on un-improved strips, and can haul much more! I guess operating costs are higher than a TBM but still significantly less than a light jet. It seems like the drawback here is cruise speed...
@Chris11249
@Chris11249 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. I think he said he flies alone or with few passengers most of the time so useful load and size isn't as big of a deal. And I have no experience but since it's a Swiss jet it might have some crazy maintenance schedule that only makes sense for the 135 guys
@ishankramer
@ishankramer Жыл бұрын
@@Chris11249 I mean the PC-12 is a turboprop. You might be thinking of the PC-24, which is indeed a jet! As far as I know, maintenance for a PC-12 is not significantly different from other turboprops in its class... But as you said, if useful load is not a concern, than I guess a TBM makes more sense. But again, what do I know, I've never owned an aircraft!
@seththomas3194
@seththomas3194 11 ай бұрын
Big discount for the endorsement from TBM?
@Chris11249
@Chris11249 11 ай бұрын
@@seththomas3194 Yes, can't forget such an obvious thing I guess right?
@misham6547
@misham6547 5 ай бұрын
PC-12 is expensive and bigger costing like private jets
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 Жыл бұрын
I worked as an A&P for a 135 operation in Fairbanks AK for over 13 years, you take that TBM into any of the gravel strips we use to operate from without highly modified flaps, and the rocks coming off the main tires will destroy them, the rocks that miss the flaps, will make the deice boots on the horizontal stabilizers look like a chess board from patching all the holes, then the rocks coming off the nose tire will clean the antennas off the belly of that aircraft like a finely honed shaving razor, plus put dents on the main landing gear struts, so eventually the seals wont hold. It's obvious you don't have that much experience operating on remote Alaskan air strips
@Chris11249
@Chris11249 Жыл бұрын
PC-12 will be his next video :)
@Iwishiwasflying
@Iwishiwasflying 7 ай бұрын
You say the TBM can land on rough runways etc. have a look at the PC12 of the Royal Flying Doctor Service here in Australia. They land on rough airstrips for aeromedical stuff. Give me a PC12 anyday
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 7 ай бұрын
@@Iwishiwasflying Theres a big difference in off airport and something like the gravel; strips of Alaska, the Royal Flying Doctors don't operate on gravel strips
@Iwishiwasflying
@Iwishiwasflying 7 ай бұрын
@@Agislife1960 maybe do some research on where the RFDS actually fly and land. They land in gravel, powdered dirt and every other possible combo. Australia has one of the toughest climates and countrysides.
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 7 ай бұрын
@@Iwishiwasflying all the videos I’ve seen with the Royal flying doctors is that they’re mostly operating on dirt with a few rocks scattered about which is completely different than a real 100% gravel runway, the terrain in Australia doesn’t require that you use gravel for a runway, but the permafrost in Alaska does, it’s very obvious that you don’t have a clue about what you’re talking about
@JBoy340a
@JBoy340a 6 ай бұрын
If I still needed a small plane a TBM would be on my short list. I flew T182R and then a Cessna 340. The twin was nice and climbed fast, but was still limited. Also, a piston twin requires constant training to be sure you are up on your procedures. A move to a single turbine would have been my next move. But, with the internet there were less and less need to travel for business, so ...
@GS-zc4sk
@GS-zc4sk 5 ай бұрын
I assume most biz flyers write the trip off? Now just find lots of reasons to fly. Tell them your Wi-Fi is broken. And of course the cable guy didn't show up, Again!
@LawrenceBroussard
@LawrenceBroussard Жыл бұрын
Eye Opening!
@dawsonb6040
@dawsonb6040 Жыл бұрын
why not a PC24??? seems perfect
@berylrosenberg704
@berylrosenberg704 9 ай бұрын
Why a TBM versus a Beechcraft King Air 360ER? Twin engines would seem to provide an extra envelope of safety, lower cost to operate, yet provide the seating for passengers or more cargo?
@dirtcurt1
@dirtcurt1 26 күн бұрын
Then you need a PC12. King Air= type rating. King Air runs two engines, so double everything maintenance. K100 is another option though not as fast.
@MichaelCarterShow
@MichaelCarterShow Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Жыл бұрын
My goal is to one day own a used Piper M600. Pretty fast, but way more affordable to operate than a jet. He makes a very good point. While a turboprop isn't quite as fast as a jet, it's pretty darn fast and unless you're traveling cross country, the speed difference isn't worth the additional costs.
@jabom99
@jabom99 Жыл бұрын
To add to what you said, I had to do a lot of flying between cities with my job. Basically, 1 hour flights. The airline changed from older 737 to Bombardier Q400. I found it much more pleasant than on the jet. more legroom and the flight itself was only about 20 minutes slower, but the startup was faster and It was easier and faster to get into and out of the cramped Boeing and had better leg room.
@RodrigoVargas72
@RodrigoVargas72 Жыл бұрын
I’m a fly fishing bum. Alaska is definetely in my bucket list.
@zoomzoom3909
@zoomzoom3909 Жыл бұрын
That is a bad ass plane
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot Жыл бұрын
The 960 gives you 90% of the performance of a jet, and lands like a Cherokee.
@marcus29551
@marcus29551 Жыл бұрын
Any chance you want to adopt a 47 year old Firefighter who’s getting his PPL?😂😂 Great Video, Thank you!
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. All the planes he's owned I've seen at my local airport at one time or another.
@mcsvls
@mcsvls Жыл бұрын
Greg, what made you choose the TBM versus PC12 which has such a roomier cabin, short field chops and has more of a mid-sized jet comfort. ?
@dieselyeti
@dieselyeti Жыл бұрын
Probably didn't need the higher capacity of the Pilatus and the TBM is 40kt faster?
@jay_b..
@jay_b.. Жыл бұрын
Even TBMs are very expensive to operate compared to pistons. How about the Diamond DA62? Its really efficient and modern and a 7 seater…. Maybe not as fast at 192knots but still pretty quick and so much cheaper…
@nythawkfpv
@nythawkfpv Жыл бұрын
The DA52 has a much lower useful load and is much more cramped. (And unpressurised)
@jay_b..
@jay_b.. Жыл бұрын
@@nythawkfpv I agree. But it is so much cheaper and its not too cramped. It can easily take 7 people. Turbo props are expensive for most people.
@nythawkfpv
@nythawkfpv Жыл бұрын
@@jay_b.. i thought you can easily fit 4 people in, but the 3 seats at the back could really only fit children and smaller women
@cockyrooster361
@cockyrooster361 Жыл бұрын
well, if your gonna keep going down the pole like that why not just get a 182? Even cheaper to buy/operate....
@igclapp
@igclapp Жыл бұрын
DA62 is not pressurised. That's a big drawback, escpecially if you have paying passengers or children onboard. Plus the safety of a twin engine piston plane is less than a single engine turboprop, especially on takeoff if you lose an engine. The only safety advantage I see is long trips over water.
@Jared535
@Jared535 7 ай бұрын
Very cool
@maddogintheair
@maddogintheair Жыл бұрын
Well I'm glad he's happy with the TBM but I disagree with a number of his reasons why the TBM is superior to a single pilot jet. I was an instructor in the Eclipse 550/500. The Eclipse is faster than the TBM and can do pretty much anything the TBM can do except it only lands on paved runways. The Eclipse is even cheaper to operate than the TBM and I would argue easier to fly. I did a comparison between the TBM and the Eclipse years ago and one of the big differences that people don't realize is the redundancy of systems, two engines being a big one! How many pitot static systems does a TBM have? If the primary pitch trim jams or fails is there a secondary system? TBMs are great but there are other options. That TBM should be flown with the same "proficiency" as the jets he disparaged. That being said if he's happy and safe in the TBM then fly the wings off of it and have fun!
@placidbeach
@placidbeach Жыл бұрын
Did you compare with pc-12 sir?
@jasonweiss2773
@jasonweiss2773 Жыл бұрын
I am not a pilot, just a fan of G.A. and that was absolutely superb nuts and bolts answer. Thanks.
@alexandermyrthue1987
@alexandermyrthue1987 26 күн бұрын
Is the high-wing Kodiak not a more capable shortfield airplane then the low-wing TBM??
@justaustin4028
@justaustin4028 Жыл бұрын
Nice sales pitch
@bnato8209
@bnato8209 3 ай бұрын
TBM is a great turboprop plane. I just hate that it doesnt have a bathroom on board. The Beechcraft Denali does thought.
@kevinfitz8516
@kevinfitz8516 Жыл бұрын
does he have a lot of rural missions? he never mentioned it
@alanaldpal950
@alanaldpal950 6 ай бұрын
HaHa… it seems this guys solution on deciding between which two planes to buy is……. Buy them both. Good for him.
@icantseethis
@icantseethis 5 ай бұрын
Going from a plane to a Tunnel Boring Machine is a bit of an adjustment
@stanstoneman3031
@stanstoneman3031 Жыл бұрын
Audio levels!!
@jg1503
@jg1503 10 ай бұрын
This and a Pilatus is my dream plane. Big emphasis on dream. 😂 Good night
@user-rc7qb2kg2k
@user-rc7qb2kg2k 10 ай бұрын
Did you consider the Pilatus plane? If yes, what were the cons or drawbacks that precluded you from buying it? It seems to be a very reliable and popular plane.
@340Captain
@340Captain 7 ай бұрын
Even more expensive than the TBM. If you don't need the space you're just drilling a larger hole in the air. Honeywell Navigation Suite is somewhat exotic. Not very popular in GA.
@bagels377
@bagels377 6 ай бұрын
​@340Captain are you saying the pc12 or the honeywell isn't popular in GA? Cause saying the 12 isn't popular is crazy talk lol.
@user-rc7qb2kg2k
@user-rc7qb2kg2k 6 ай бұрын
@@bagels377
@DonnieDarko727
@DonnieDarko727 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to build a VTOL propjet for this individual.
@tylerhall7035
@tylerhall7035 10 ай бұрын
He lives by Matt G! up there at Alpine!
@garrygballard8914
@garrygballard8914 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Tks Mike
@ncrawford1488
@ncrawford1488 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the PC-24? I haven't been current in 30 years and have been using professionals to fly me around, but the PC-24 lit a spark in me! Not that I want to fly it, but I'd sure like to own or lease one!!!
@Priestonwheel
@Priestonwheel 6 күн бұрын
You really should take at look at a Pilatus PC24...
@dieselyeti
@dieselyeti Жыл бұрын
A TBM might not require a type rating, but you do have to get type-specific training at a school before you can get insured.
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 Жыл бұрын
A friend at a local airpark has a TBM. I've seen him land in less distance than my Piper Archer. Totally amazing, and beautiful, airplane. However, they are crazy expensive! They are only for people who have 18 wheelers full of money.
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 Жыл бұрын
If your archer had beta you too could land short 😂
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurbrumagem3844 Beta is nice, but I'd rather have money.
@to2455
@to2455 Жыл бұрын
I’m a big jet driver and I love this guy’s real down to Earth commentary about Turbo-Props.. “Beta is an amazing thing”. “ it can even go in reverse.!” 😅
@dlvox5222
@dlvox5222 Жыл бұрын
Is there such a thing as a twin turbine for redundancy? I guess I could Google
@willcall9431
@willcall9431 6 ай бұрын
I’d love a TBM, epic or a Honda jet but I’d rather have a home with a roof to live under. Where do people get their money to afford these things?
@jamesbarrett223
@jamesbarrett223 Жыл бұрын
You should trade your TBM for an Epic GX E1000
@mikewaterfield3599
@mikewaterfield3599 Жыл бұрын
Because you respect yourself as an aviator? But seriously it’s hard to argue with a PT6
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