Cirrus Vision SF50 vs HondaJet HA-420 Private Jets
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2 жыл бұрынWhat is your favourite? Mine is the Cirrus Vision SF50!
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@rickveley5326 2 жыл бұрын
Your statement that the other Cirrus aircraft are Turboprops is not correct. There is a HUGE difference between a turboprop, and a turbocharged engine. The turboprop aircraft is a propeller powered by a jet engine (turbine), whereas the turbocharged airplanes that Cirrus produces are piston engines that are turbocharge/turbonormalized engines driving a propeller. There are huge differences in performance and reliability between turboprops and turbocharged aircraft. Further, you tended to mix and match the cost and performance numbers between the various HondaJet Models (HondaJet, HondaJet Elite, HondaJet Elite S). The HondaJet Elite S is about $4.8 million, and has an IFR range of over 1,500 nm. The original HondaJet had the range that you mentioned.
@jamesd6801 2 жыл бұрын
SR 20 and SR22 aren’t turboprop planes. They’re piston engine planes and some have turbocharged engines
@av8rbri473 Жыл бұрын
yep YUGE oversight/error
@mikhailjairnisbett441 Жыл бұрын
This is one of those "google search" channels.
@dspellman2002 2 жыл бұрын
Honda all the way for me. More range, less noise in the cabin, more seating options and a potty in the back. Worth nothing that the newest prototype has a range of 2650 miles, a cruise speed of 450 knots and a ceiling of 47,000' .
@corderajones 2 жыл бұрын
In the video table it showed the vision jet to have more range
@greenie21 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the new HondaJet 2600 under development a different class? It's even larger than Learjet 40... not exactly a fair comparison for SF50.
@wayneyd2 2 жыл бұрын
At 3 times the cost? No way!
@genetung8590 2 жыл бұрын
Potty vs no potty. You better damn well have a potty.
@brentfarvors192 2 жыл бұрын
YES. If the jet can't make it across the Atlantic ocean, all the other "amenities", are pretty much irrelevant...Might as well by an propeller prop plane...
@joehiatt1992 9 ай бұрын
I like both,Im flyin a drone now.
@tundraspecialops 2 жыл бұрын
It's important to give accurately descriptive information. I see people in the comments on already correctly touched on what type of aircraft the SR22 and SR20 is.
@Afrocanuk 8 ай бұрын
I'm betting in a worst case scenario if one of these jets were to lose a vertical stabiliser, the Cirrus Vision SF50 would have a better chance of landing safely.
@BAIGSON 2 жыл бұрын
mine will be cirrus with unparalleled safety auto landing and parachute .....
@swaggyg5097 Жыл бұрын
this the most awesome private jet. I really ❤ this small jet.
@ryanberry2696 4 ай бұрын
Mentioning the safety aspects would've been nice as well. I believe the Vision jet edges them on that as well.
@videoman876 2 жыл бұрын
I think the comparison is unfair. One engine verses two. Economics it would definitely be the Vision Jet. I would like to see a better comparison to the Honda Jet. The Vision Jet is more like turbo prop in regards to performance, take-off, and landings.
@johnmichaelkarma 2 жыл бұрын
Cobalt blue wash basin ,gotta have it.
@rob379lqz Жыл бұрын
Yes. Cirrus ought to continue with internal combustion power trains.
@skeelo69 Жыл бұрын
The one with the toilet. and Tom Cruise can stand up in his one with headroom to spare 🤣
@mnpu4499 2 жыл бұрын
you Didnt mentioned abt SF50's On frame parachute system .thats a big advantage
@mezbec392 11 ай бұрын
yes
@onomatopoeia162003 2 жыл бұрын
monka. born and raised here in MN
@CAesuoMykcM 2 ай бұрын
Well I would say the Vision is the better option but I would've liked the price to run each of these jets per hour of fuel.
@DrAsadAli-yc6tu Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@lstephensudhop3500 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a video on what makes up the total cost of these light jets? It would be interesting on why these jets cost what they do?
@MikeS309 2 жыл бұрын
youtube channel 'complete walkaround' did one on the cirrus.....its not exactly the full breakdown you are looking for, but it does go into cost of ownership.
@nigelwarrington3696 2 жыл бұрын
Cirrus all the way… auto land system and safety parachute.
@BrokeAsHellChallenge 9 ай бұрын
Honda 💯! 🚽🎉 Is plus! And probably Worth every 💵!
@TrevorDodd-ev1sx 8 ай бұрын
And here's me today thinking about buying a new electric scooter and whether I have enough money till the end of the month.
@damonpetty7741 2 жыл бұрын
I got my SF50 3 months ago. As of now, they’ve made over 300 Vision Jets.
@insidepossie 2 жыл бұрын
what's your experience like and how much did you pay, did you get the option for parachute ? wished those safety features were detailed in the video.
@insidepossie 2 жыл бұрын
@@benchoflemons398 no sir, it's an add-on (at-a-cost) per customer request.
@matt922432010 2 жыл бұрын
@@insidepossie this is a false statement every cirrus has a parachute… if it didn’t you’d have a 200 pound steel ballast on the nose of the aircraft which is impossible to install where normal ballast is installed.
@insidepossie 2 жыл бұрын
@@matt922432010 ok
@damonpetty7741 Жыл бұрын
@@insidepossie parachute comes standard on all vision jets. So does auto-land.
@saif.restifer.khomain Жыл бұрын
Overall judgement, my accentuation goes to Cirrus vision jet SF-50.
@eluisse 5 күн бұрын
Which is best smaller plane to fly across Atlantic from NY to London
@anwerabdallah569 Жыл бұрын
ill buy it soon inshallah.
@hgarti919 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t the eclipse more comparable to the Honda jet and at less than Cirrus price???
@correacastrillon773 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer sf50 but this aircraft needs upload space crew, May to up topspeed and fly range..best of sf50 is only safety concept
@lekeabiodun3252 Жыл бұрын
yeah...I'll take the one with the potentially life saving parachute thanks.
@thefpvlife7785 2 жыл бұрын
You left out the most important variable to purchase sir .... Cost per hour.
@carado1984 2 жыл бұрын
Honda. Less of a pain in the ass to all other ATC at major airports.
@ASTROgraffitiology 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Honda jet doesn't have a parachute or auto land. Cirrus blows Honda out of the water as far as safety is concerned. Cirrus all the way
@breezy0037 2 жыл бұрын
Since I can afford neither I'll settle for a cessna 152☹
@conned 8 ай бұрын
Need etops cert?
@breezy0037 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad the D jet never made it to fruition. That would have been a fun comparison.
@anwerabdallah569 Жыл бұрын
cirrus vision jet is the best for me.
@colinspalding1408 5 ай бұрын
How many vision jet crashes have there been 1:13
@robertperry6048 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any delta wing private business jets ?
@JetStream- 2 жыл бұрын
Only small general aviation or military aircraft!
@cyprus-selectestates Жыл бұрын
Price?
@ChristopherJustin-yt2vf 27 күн бұрын
Wow Cirus with a single engine has a longer range
@baileyjones159 9 ай бұрын
These are two different class of Jet. Cirrus SF50 could be considered "ultra light" jet.
@sevenriversrummi5763 Жыл бұрын
H O N D A - JET BEST FOREVER 💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞
@kevinmccune9324 2 жыл бұрын
Truly toys for the rich, cost is no object for some. Once upon a time, I realized relative wealth could be gauged, anybody who talked of flying via 'Concorde" were already in a class by themselves. So it goes at least these things provide employment for mere mortals. OTH, enjoy. Very nice aircraft.
@LouisianaNative13 8 ай бұрын
Sorry, the bathroom sold me. Honda it is.
@jeffbrown8968 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Vision would suffice. But man that Hondajet is sexy.
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
have you seen the safety numbers? the cirrus parachute caps system is awesome,, and now the safe return button available to not just pilot on dash but to the passengers,,, its what I would trust my family in or want to learn to fly in,,, all goes wrong a backup plan is all the better, I suspect a cirrus could be upfit with a toilet if really desired? other then that I see nothing close about them the cirrus is twice the plane, at half the purchase or half the operating or maint costs...
@1biggun712 2 жыл бұрын
SF50 vision jet 100% for me👍
@ronlewis8398 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention what speed VTEC kicks in? 😉 But it's Vision Jet for me and put the price Delta towards operating costs. But money no object between the two, Honda is the winner.
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
you missed where it said General Electric?? or are making a joke? and the costs? the fuel cost is double on the honda? maint double for checks you have 2 engines to get checked,, then the honda simply costs double about,,, (really its like comparing a g650 er to say a 1980's 737 and saying they are both jets...
@whatsupwhatsup457 Жыл бұрын
😊🎉
@tylerprochot3864 Жыл бұрын
Definitely would choose the Honda Jet because you get more space, it looks way better then the SF-50, the Cirrus looks ugly in my opinion. You get the advantage of a lavatory. You get have more power which means getting to your destination faster. The Honda Jet beats the Cirrus in many different areas, Looks, Performance, Convenience, and a list of other things. And with the Elite S, you have an even better range the the HA-420.
@Mownstarain 9 ай бұрын
Cirrus had better range. I love it more.
@suedemann9482 2 ай бұрын
The vision won in my opinion 😊
@cobratraxxas Жыл бұрын
Honda is going to come up with a Type R version of the HondaJet soon!
@anwerabdallah569 Жыл бұрын
cirrus vision jet took my breath away.
@cobweb-xyz Жыл бұрын
no comparison to Cirrus in terms of 1.safety 2.price 3.maintenance ... Range and seating capacity same so no point paying double the amount for Honda ... Cirrus all the way a future centric concept
@MrRepoman25 Жыл бұрын
Sirius doesn't make a turboprop....
@UncleWayne5104 Жыл бұрын
Twice the price, the Honda should be twice as good, yes?
@chrissullivan4496 2 жыл бұрын
My Honda can mulch
@user-mj7di7nj3v 28 күн бұрын
Aggiungete una toilet al Cirrus e corro in banca ad aprire un mutuo 😂
@BudFunOne 2 жыл бұрын
Honda Jet takes it!
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
this video did not compare the 2 fair at all, caps, safe return, cost to fillup, then the maint of hours on 2 engines over one, and service center availability,,, poorly filmed the cirrus is a clear winner and costs half...I mean wow
@wayneyd2 2 жыл бұрын
The only advantage the Honda jet has over the Cirrus jet is it larger with a toilet.
@acasualviewer5861 2 жыл бұрын
speed
@overbuiltlimited 2 жыл бұрын
It can fly over any weather. That is a huge deal.
@matt922432010 2 жыл бұрын
There is a toilet option for cirrus.
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
@@overbuiltlimited actually thats a misnomer, not all weather events go to any particular altitude,, even a cessna can fly over some things...
@larryjackson6238 Жыл бұрын
HONDA JET!!!!
@Puzzoozoo Жыл бұрын
The Honda is essentially a small Biz Jet, the Cirrus is a flying family sedan, so it depends on what your purpose is, I'd initially go for the Honda as my company would have no need for a flying sedan.
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
or autoland, or caps, and ya enjoy spending double on fuel per trip? and then double to maintain 2 engines and fewer service centers too? poor choice.. good luck with that.
@birdman1843 10 ай бұрын
In a circus u really have to hold that pee
@anwerabdallah569 Жыл бұрын
i like my cirrus vision jet to be brand new from the factory to my hands. i dont want it to be a second hand plane i like it brand new and ill buy it soon inshaallah.
@BillyJ10 2 жыл бұрын
Not a very fair comparison. The Honda Jet is about $2 mill more than the vision jet. Honda Jet competes with phenom 100, cj3, etc.... This comparison is apples to oranges
@tripd4949 2 жыл бұрын
If it can't fly from LAX to Hawaii it's useless for me
@texasermd1 2 жыл бұрын
You just need to make a refueling stop... 😉
@SopwithTheCamel 2 жыл бұрын
They are quite different so a comparison is pointless.
@jaredjoubert1796 Жыл бұрын
I can’t take the Cirrus seriously.
@Heathfx5 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why someone would want the vision jet over a TBM850 or 930? It’s basically equal or better in every way performance wise. It’s cool that they made a single-engine jet, but too bad they didn’t target it price-wise closer $1M, it still boggles my mind that turbine has to = expensive. Turbine engines are so beautifully simple, but there’s no competition in the manufacturing space for such small engines.
@josh885 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Vision jet is in an awkward place in the market. I think the idea of the Vision jet is for Cirrus customers to step up to it from like an SR22 and be able to say they own a jet for a low purchase price. It's 80% the cool factor that sells them. But problem for the Vision jet is if you are a little bet more rational with your purchases a cheaper to operate used single engine turboprop starts looking like a lot better value for around the same purchase price or just a little more. Especially since a used TBM 9xx, PC12, ect will have bigger cabins, higher max payloads, better ranges, and in some cases a lav. If you strip away the cool factor of owning a Jet with the fancy G3000 avionics and fighter plane style control stick the Single engine Turboprops come out looking like the better option by far compared to the Vision Jet. If you really want to step up from a single Turboprop only a twin engine light jet is really enough of a bump performance wise to be worth the extra cost.
@mbasir Жыл бұрын
@@josh885 The TBM is actually faster than the Cirrus.
@toribarron5700 Жыл бұрын
@@mbasir, if you want to fly the plane, the Vision is hard to beat. Great views. Huge, front facing windows. It really is made for the pilot. But the passengers do share in those wonderful views. The Honda is for being flown around in. As for the TBM? The Cirrus is a jet. And it really is that simple. There is a cool factor that comes with that. Also the avionics are just a bit more modern the way they are incorporated into the craft. A parachute. Auto land. When you have money to spend on a jet, or a turboprop. Some folks will want the jet. That TBM is a lovely plane. So is the Honda. But if you are a pilot, looking for a fun new, sporty challenge, that Vision jet is hard to beet.
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
the cirrus costs 1/2 what the honda does I mean 2.4 mill to honda 4.8 ,,DOUBLE to fill up? is like 300 gallons? 2000lbs of fuel? so a trip for people is like what 2.50 a gallon 1200 miles,, the honda is over double,, your using 2 engines and filling up, and then maint of 2 engines, hours on 2 engines, then you do not have the parachute system in a honda,, or the safe return button for passengers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hs93nt2Yy7jDk2Q.html
@coasternut3091 Жыл бұрын
One has a toilet and one doesn't. Easy pick
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
likely can get a cirrus modded for a toilet but can you mod a honda for caps or safereturn? or cheaper fuel use, or cheaper maint? double the engines means more cost and its not even more passengers,, maybe 1 if belted potty)
@billymania11 Жыл бұрын
Honda, too expensive, too heavy, too complicated, too maintenance heavy. Cirrus, half of all the points raised on the Honda. The choice is clear.
@anwerabdallah569 Жыл бұрын
i dont like the honda jet. i love the cirrus vision jet.
@ut-napishtim Жыл бұрын
直接比べるにはタイプが違うんじゃないか？😅
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
Cirrus is a much better machine,,, Caps the parachute system (only Cirrus does that or has that) then there is Safe Return, if a pilot is incapasitated,,, with the push of a button the plane can locate nearest airport, call out the situation, navigate terrain and weather, and land with only the passenger pushing 1 button... (now the only thing honda has is a potty? and costs twice as much, consumes way more fuel and can fly 10k higher? seems not even a competition? if I had kids I know I would feel better if they were in a Cirrus, and being able to land at smaller runways often means less hold times,, and better service?
@CorbinWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
One jet will still be around in 10 years, the other will be long discontinued.. And it ain’t the Vision Jet😂😂😂
@CorbinWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt Honda will follow up the Honda Jet with another generation, and if they do, it’ll be the last generation.
@user-ol1qm9ey7g 9 ай бұрын
จะไปจีนไปอินเดียไปญี่ปุ่นออสเตรเลียมันพอสำหรับการเดินทาง
@user-ol1qm9ey7g 9 ай бұрын
ระยะทางธุรกิจในอาเซียนไม่ไกลมากตลาดที่นี่ไม่เหมือนอเมริกาเครื่องลำใหญ่ขายได้น้อย
@Charlie-gn1ed Жыл бұрын
Haha, 420
@kentadams4589 2 жыл бұрын
If I had this money, I would go with a two engine jet, not a one engine jet. Lose that one engine and you are f'd!
@nigelwarrington3696 2 жыл бұрын
Not so, check into the parachute. Something the Honda can’t do.
@nothing_burger 2 жыл бұрын
@@nigelwarrington3696 If you're flying over a major body of water (Atlantic, Gulf of Mexico, Pacific, etc.) outside of glide slope range back to land and your single engine fails, okay you can use CAPS but your aircraft would still be f*cked. One of the engines goes out in the Honda, you're still cruising.
@nigelwarrington3696 2 жыл бұрын
@@nothing_burger Why would you do that? Presumably even though it's very easy to get certified on the Cirrus, you would be smarter than that.
@halimtalafuka9946 2 жыл бұрын
Hari Rabu.Tgl.2/3/2022/.Halim Talafuka,Allahumma Amiin.@$#
@anwerabdallah569 Жыл бұрын
its just like a big toy.
@rafishaikh3598 2 жыл бұрын
HONDA, SIMPLY SUPERIOR, RAFI KITTERY MAINE USA
@nicka8718 Жыл бұрын
Hondajet is an easy choice. Two engines, a lav, less noisy and more payload
@jstavene Жыл бұрын
the honda is more noisy ,,2 engines use double the fuel, costing,,and then maint, double the hours costing more, and then not much more "payload" since the doors are similar size,, and they are rated for same amount of pax...
@Mownstarain 9 ай бұрын
Honda lost on economics
@Pinkielover 2 жыл бұрын
rip off
@ikichullo 2 жыл бұрын
Vision Jet is a fucking joke. Fuel burn of a jet, yet it can't go over 250kts. Pathetic.
@ItsAllAboutGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
I know! It's marginally better than my RV-14 for about 10 times the price!
@insidepossie 2 жыл бұрын
the stats sheet does say it goes over 325kits, it "cruises" at 250-275 kts. with burning 71-75 gal per hour, is not bad at all.
@tundraspecialops 2 жыл бұрын
Your narrow-minded tirade couldn't be anymore inaccurate. Apart from your obvious bias based on inaccurate information, the newer Vision Jet has features no airplanes in the cost category have such as a ballistic parachute and auto-pilot safe return for starters. The plane is not, was never intended to compete with the likes of an Embraer 100 etc. It is the jet equivalent to a turbo-prop that has unique differences.
@matt922432010 2 жыл бұрын
@@tundraspecialops gotta hate it if you can’t afford it 😉
@flyguy68 Жыл бұрын
No comparison! Honda is better. Vision jet slooooow.
@ijaznadeem7269 Жыл бұрын
Honda Jet all the way.
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