That always concerned me because if something is truly harmless it wouldn't matter which route you administered it into your body and also I always wondered why some toothpaste said sodium monofluoriide

@@dpierre3784 damn i wrote this comment 7 years ago, I dont even remember it, probably used too much flouride toothpaste myself.

@@dpierre3784 by your logic you shouldnt drink water, because if you drink too much you get water poisining

​@@Urketadic damn 7 years ago how are u is ur life better now or then? did this make u nostalogic?

@@hammadikochi2043 Its always nostalgic for me reading older comments because its a reminder of simpler and better times. As you grow older you learn a lot about how unfair and scammy the world really is. But other than that its still pretty good.

"Too much of anything will kill you." FTFY It is true, even good things will kill you if you have too much. Life is all about balance :)

Darthane well I was trying to avoid the "what about x?" argument. Like... shadows. Too many shadows won't kill you.

JimPlaysGames enough shadow (think Jupiter between Earth and the Sun forever... I realize that makes little sense though) and you will wipe out all living things on the planet. I think they mean ingestion though, and we can't really ingest shadows.

JimPlaysGames Too many shadows CAN kill you ;'] Lack of Vitamin D production, SAD can cause thoughts of suicide and don't forget that thing that goes bump in the dark might be your head.

But too many shadows mean no light, right ? And light is essential I think

Most chemists and physicists

Sean Gannon No shit, I doubt you're either of those.

Tywin Lannister Yes shit, you died taking one...

***** RIP= rest in piece...in piece?

naihanchin Kempo its a maymay

igotaiphone1 CHEMICALS

igotaiphone1 THE CHEMICALS! OH THE HUMANITY!

Arvidius ツ DID YOU KNOW THERE ARE CHEMICALS IN THE FOOD WE CONSUME?

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Arvidius ツ KEEP THAT DI-HYDROGEN MONOXIDE AWAY FROM ME!

+Iryanchang Laughing [ ] Crying [o]

Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha so funny such lame humor

TL:DR Bacteria and acid destroys the enamel Flouride rebuilds the enamel and makes it more resistant to corrosion, with the new enamel created from flouride.

@@Competitive_Antagonist yeah that's why humans evolved with teeth... idiot Good thing all the wild animals brush their teeth with fluoride lolol

SarthorS That's not the question he posited. Straw man arguments are never a good route to take.

fmlAllthetime No. That's not a strawman. It's sarcasm. Except for the last sentence. I'm not aware of any other country that takes the idea of liberty to such an extreme that they want to make their own and everyone elses lives worse.

SarthorS It was a strawman. You attacked a misrepresentation through sarcasm. Secondly, no one actually wants that, news flash; not everyone has the same idea on the way it should be done. Some want a benevolent dictatorship, some want a constitutional monarchy, some want a republic, some want communism, some want capitalism, some want anarchy, some want to go back to a barter system and so on. I'm not trying to insult you, but you're definitely conflating things in an illogical manner.

fmlAllthetime No, It would only have been a strawman if I had tried to present it seriously and then built an argument against it. A strawman is presenting a position that a person doesn't actually hold in order to argue against that instead of the persons genuine position. I didn't attack a misrepresentation through sarcasm. The misrepresentation WAS the sarcasm. I had assumed that when I spoke of them being evil that it was obvious enough that I was joking. But then if you come from a country that has so many vocal religious extremists, I guess it's hard to tell when someone is parodying them. And yes, people have preferences for all sorts of different political systems. But on the idea of liberty, I know of no other country that has such a extreme view of it that is accepted by such a large proportion of the population. This is something that I genuinely want to understand better because it is a position that I currently view as being anti-social and based mostly on selfishness.

SarthorS Idividuals are what make society, not the other way around. An individual has free will to *choose* what they will do in this life, the monolithic beast of a society we have today has no such liberty. It moves slowly, inefficiently, and wastefully.Educated individualism is a far better alternative because through education you can promote altruism while still giving the choice of action to the individual in how they will or will not pursue this. *Most* people when taught to share, will, willingly I might add. Sarcasm can be a powerful rhetorical tool, and in that sense (when used like that) it should be taken seriously. Sarcasm is different in every culture as well, and every individual takes it differently also. It also doesn't come across to great in text... especially when there are so many fucking retarded trolls on this website ya know? Secondly you didn't attack the point he posited. You attack a misrepresentation, sarcastically or not. His issue was with forced government mandates on personal health, which any classic liberal would strongly disagree with, most anarchists would disagree with and most conservatives would disagree with. That is a pretty large chunk of humanity that disagrees with your intended point, sarcastic or not.

That maybe true, but by brushing with it, it gets straight into the blood stream via the gums, more so if your gums bleed. Doesn't that cause problems?

Kat Hood Thanks for the reminder, annoying forgetfulness.

Cíat Ó Gáibhtheacháin This was pretty much exactly that lol

Ahrk FinTey Not really. Anti-fluoride people really have some crazy claims, including that fluoride "reduces an individual's power to resist domination" and that it makes people "stupid and docile" so that government can have more control over them. Ridiculous stuff.

Butt Poopington I didn't think it was that bad, though in hindsight I should have known there would have been a conspiracy theory because it's a thing that exists. That should be another rule of the internet: Rule 101: If it exists, there's a conspiracy theory about it.

Butt Poopington Well fluoride would damage your brain given that you take in enough of it or even kill you if you've taken enough. However, that amount is rather high, it'd take 5mg per kilogram of body weight to kill you so...

Butt Poopington Flouride is proven to effect the brain if consumed in above-average amounts over the span of years. It's not much, and is rare, but it CAN cause serious problems for some people, making fun of those people just makes you look like a douche.

Your teeth not you, any thing is dangerous. You know how you think water is good for you, if you drink too much you die, but it's good for you right?

GrapeDrank001 You know our body actually creates toxins right? lol

There is a greater concentration of fluoride in toothpaste that if ingested is dangerous. As stated in the video, the concentration in tap water is regulated to a level that isn't dangerous.

It is toxic if ingested in certain quantities. So is water, oxygen, sugar, Vitamin A, coffee, etc DEPENDING on certain factors. Oftentimes, the difference between therapeutic and poison is dosage. The quantity of some material over how much time relative to the the body's rate of neutralizing/excreting and the mass of the organism (see LD50 and similar) said materal is what determines toxicicity. Some compounds, such as botulinum toxin and ricin are extremely lethal. Botox is botulinum toxin in an EXTREMELY EXTREMELY small fraction of a fraction of an amount can be nonlethal, used in cosmetic surgery. Ricin, OTOH, prevents cells from being able to make proteins, leading to death (usually). Digitalis is highly lethal, but therapeutic for heart conditions. Some things are toxic to us, such as tetradotoxin, but some garter snakes, octopi, pufferfish are completely immune/resistant.

GrapeDrank001 If you are an American that might be to stop you from being able to sue them if anything were to happen.

they put it in food

my fucken oath mate

Such a great question!

I am pretty confident the answer is yes, because they make fluoride tablets and drops which don't come into contact with the teeth. I don't know how though, good question.

Maybe that’s why dentists say not to rinse your toothpaste after brushing. Just spit.

it needs to come in contact with teeth.

@@simonb2109 i thought those tablets are for chewing and then forming a paste with you saliva, then using that paste to help brush your teeth? not for swallowing because youre not supposed to swallow fluoride.

Fluoride is poison do not use its even in water get reverse osmosis system for water,fluoride free toothpaste you’ll feel different and healthier

You serious?

iLuZiioNz Tutorials Best head you'll ever have! hahaha

Some filters do take out the fluoride, others don't. 'Brita' and 'Pur' filters don't, but filters that use reverse osmosis, deionizers, or activated alumina do take almost all of it out.

no it does not

Some misinformation here. Cant find the study anymore, but the better the filter, the more it removes everything, including flouride _and_ lead. Those slow Brita filters that sit on the counter remove 30% of flouride, iirc, but undersink filters remove 90% iirc, and reverse osmosis almost all. Moral of story: get a good filter to remove lead and nasty side chemicals, and use flouride toothpaste and mouthwash to get back the flouride. Kinda sad it comes to this, but it's the price to pay for modern life i guess.

Now they're recommending Erythritol over Xylitol because of its increased benefits & natural source (despite it's sciencey sounding name). It's worth a google.

​@@o0Avalon0o who is they? I've been reading the comment section and seen nothing but more commercialized toothpaste. Can I get a dentist, doctor and scientist together who are willingly to put their names on the line under penalty of perjury of what a toothpaste would actually need to mske your teeth healthy without any toxic elements in them?

agreed indeed!!

But fluoride is most healthy substance to the human body known to mankind!

Caleb Limb This guy right here.

My man!

Lloyd What? Water is also waste. It's in your pee.

Fluoride in toothpaste accomplishes something totally different than it does in the drinking water. Neither are harmful in proper quantities. Educate yourself... lest you're proud to display ignorance and your unwillingness to know what you're going on about.

Try watching the video. It answers that question.

yes it makes a difference. I lived in an area where we couldn't drink fluoridated water and my teeth began to chip away. When I came to the city and started drinking fluoridated water again, my teeth stopped chipping and wearing away.

@@method341 You must be the sole anomaly in all of human evolution lmao

​@@method341why didn't you swallow the toothpaste?

What's more interesting to me is, what about drinking fluoride rather than brushing teeth with fluoride toothpaste? What's the benefit of toothpaste, I mean you spit it out anyway. But tea or water for instance, you swallow and the fluoride is in your body, which uses the fluoride to...repair the teeth?

Except they won't Teresa. They are mainstream reductionist. Do your own research and follow as simple rule- if you cannot pronounce it don't put it anywhere near your hair, skin and mouth. Simple!

elokubano Exactly. I haven't touched a drop of water ever since I found it is also called di-hydrogen monoxide, which I can't pronounce. Granted, I do feel a bit woozy, but I accept the trade-off. [/s]

elokubano That's a dumb simple rule.

Bram Kaandorp You don't drink water? Madness!

elokubano That's an awful rule hahaha

My statement is very soft. A hard statement would have been: "I know unequivocally that fluoride in our water has made my teeth better."

Um like?

Pick a source, any source: www.google.com/search?q=dangers+of+fluoride+in+water+supply I've read that it's produces neurological damage.

The video is titled why fluoride is good for you. There's still room for another video why fluoride is bad for you.

Wesley C. Yeah... I see that. They do mention how dangerous. I suppose I see it as controversial, and there's no real mention of that.

Leandro Lima I picked the Medical Consensus source on Wikipedia: "The fluoridation of public water has been hailed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as one of the top medical achievements of the 20th century.[30] It is ranked No. 9 on this list ahead of "Recognition of tobacco use as a health hazard."[31] The American Dental Association calls water fluoridation "one of the safest and most beneficial, cost-effective public health measures for preventing, controlling, and in some cases reversing, tooth decay."[32] Health Canada supports fluoridation, citing a number of international scientific reviews that indicate "there is no link between any adverse health effects and exposure to fluoride in drinking water at levels that are below the maximum acceptable concentration of 1.5 mg/L."[33] The World Health Organization says fluoridation is an effective way to prevent tooth decay in poor communities. "In some developed countries, the health and economic benefits of fluoridation may be small, but particularly important in deprived areas, where water fluoridation may be a key factor in reducing inequalities in dental health."[34]"

Lol

@newswars-dotcom EVERY white country is being invaded by brownskins. Just don't swallow it then?

they no doubt have to put that in case some kid eats a whole tube. Like a lot of products - household cleaners, medications - if used at the stated doses and applied as directed its of no harm whatsoever. feel free to rid your diet of floride - its your choice. youll learn the hard way! the science is pretty clear on floride.

@newswars-dotcom thanks for posting that. I did take a read through. firstly, a couple of % points in IQ as it states cant really be classed as significant. how did they control all the other variables? not enough in the report to persuade me tbh - a single study. But certainly something to take on board. My standpoint is that good oral hygiene has shown a wide veriety of life long health benefits. everything we consume is always a tradeoff and its easy to show the the downsides in isolation to show a point. bottom line is we are all dying from the moment of conception, dont lose sight of that. Also, what else are we being lied to about? Lots I expect! And for a variety of reasons, some I agree with, some not. Personally I find it fun to critically think about everything and gather as many points of view as possible, so thanks again for your link - Id like to have seen the actual data as the report seemed like science / entertainment. food for thought none the less. Lastly - dont forget to floss!

@newswars-dotcom yeah, i actually am a food safety specialist with a bias towards disinfection methods. you are very correct that there are other ways to ensure good oral hygiene without floride. excellent point btw. although we need to cater for the majority that wont make the effort. Ill check out Iodine V floride. btw, sodium floride is derived for hydrofloric acid, but is not the same, and has neutral ph - i think... but anyhows, i cannot agree enough that thorough cleaning is far and above more useful than any kind of checmical treatment. its the same in food equipment disinfection. the disinfection should really only be a belt and braces backup.

@newswars-dotcom i just read lots of stuff them make whats known as an informed decision. btw - i include your reply in that, so thanks for responding. seriously. I take whatever I can and then critically assess it. I have a feeling you are similar. you can never get too many peopples opinion. I dont agree btw - but thats cool. we can still be friends! thanks for taking time to respond.

HA! Great Dr Strangelove line! xP

Protect the pepe in toilet

***** Yes, but a claim that something is *dangerous* is a very easily testable claim, and it would be easy to publish a paper outlining these effects. ASMR papers would require years of research to even understand the basic science behind them.

Because common knowledge and basic science stands for nothing without a bit of paper to back it up

***** "There are no papers about ASMR but it still works." [Citation Needed]

BeinDraug What common knowledge and basic science are you referring to?

Astro Fizzicks That is a ridiculous question, but as you asked in this specific case im referring to the basic science mentioned in the video and the fact that everyone knows that too much of anything is bad for you so you take things in moderation

It's a waste byproduct of Phosphate fertilizer production

Tea?

Sanad Batarseh there are speculative reports that are unconfirmed by groups such as the FDA, CDC, DEA, and the Australian ministry of health that fluoride can cause osteoporosis. It's like that idea that child shots cause autism, fluoride causes osteoporosis (thinning bones) neither have much credibility.

Sanad Batarseh Long term exposure has been shown to cause brain damage in rare cases. I think I would rather my kids and grand kids have unhealthy teeth then brains =/ Pretty sure if we can land a robot on the moon we can find other ways to keep teeth healthy without putting fluoride directly in the water source like savages.

Art Murder have they now ... can you point out those *proven* rare cases???

Lets look at places were they don't put floride, they all have shitty teeth, look at the stereotypes of southern and country people, they mostly have shitty teeth. Why because there is no floride.

Art Murder You yourself admit that these are "rare cases". So you're suggesting that the majority of the population should suffer more so that a few people might not suffer something. Not very good health plan.

+Al May Negative.

Try it and find out, it won't kill ye to find out for yourself will it?

Ihab Zein Looks like a penis xD

Artur Grochola I feel bad for you if that reminds you of your penis in any way

Lololol

Ihab Zein The internet has corrupted you.

nothing wrong with it to me.

He must like a crusty Pineal gland I guess?

its just a melatonin dispenser.

It has no effect. That happens as you age with certain races having more of an effect than fluoride.

@@ohmygollywow nunce

@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 doofus

what the hell have you been smoking bro? calcifies pineolgland and third eye? what has tumeric got to this??????

chip skylark?

Not trying to be picky, but flouride is F- not F+

you just said: "fluoride DOES work topically when ingested" :)

So basically people are too stupid to brush their teeth and not shove donuts down their throats, so let’s chemically poison the population so they don’t get cavities? Got it

Angel Samael I think what was implied was that the brown splotches were just stains and caused no other problems to the teeth other than how gross they looked.

I think too much fluoride makes your bones more brittle, and super high fluoride can do really bad things. (I learned that from my dad, a doctor) But that amount is several times the one-part-per-million.

***** Because a lot of people know fuck all about science and get pulled in by propaganda and fear mongering. For example my parents told me not to use microwaves because they use "radiation" which is technically correct and incredibly misleading as a statement. Because it implies that microwaves use ionizing radiation, while they actually use microwaves which are non-ionizing radiation.

ZealotOfSteal​ I actually remember having to correct a family member about that too... so ridiculous. 

FUCK U tyranny lover you love gun control as well

Benjamin Zimmerman Fuck you sheep!

ZealotOfSteal I actually had a teacher tell me to stand back from a microwave once because of "radiation".... I didn't listen and low and behold I'm perfectly fine!... And the microwave itself is designed to keep the Microwaves contained while it's on and the "radiation" dissipates immediately after it's turned off....

@@godthoth2609 "It's"....... just saying

Don't consume the water then

@@herb1947 I dont and neither do any of the nuclear scientists, or aerospace engineers where I live. _There's a ridiculous amount here._

Ben Aaron In sweden it does. I try to avoid it but the last time I drank it was because it tasted so bubbly *blissful smile*

***** That is interesting. I would rather drink the fluoride water myself.

Ben Aaron Depends though the common belief is that there isn't I'm pretty sure it varies.

But these kind of paste are full of chemicals, just read on the tube 🤣

Stupidity

Stop smoking and drinking coffee

No, it does not 'calcify' the pineal gland. There are calcium, fluoride and phosphorous deposits in the gland that increase proportionally with age. Water fluoridation is safe and effective for dental hygiene.

Astro Fizzicks Please explain how these deposits get there?

Damstraight68 See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland#Calcification Not much is known about how the deposits actually get there, but as I said they are shown to increase as age increases. Rest assured, if fluoride was the problem it would be *very* obvious (areas w/ water fluoridation would be easily correlated as the cause). Also the fact that it is not just fluoride but calcium and phosphorous deposits means that it is not a specific problem, it may be naturally occurring.

Astro Fizzicks Your source is from Wiki

Damstraight68 My source isn't from wiki. The citations, the bits with the actual evidence, are independent of wikipedia. Wikipedia is just a method of combining citations in a paragraph.

Amir Hussain Same here.

me too. It used to hurt to bite into an apple.

I think the abrasiveness of the toothpaste is a factor to consider too. Many toothpastes, especially the whitening ones, are extremely abrasive which can irritate the gums and cause tooth sensitivity.

its a poison

Evidence please, cite a peer-reviewed paper published in a scientific journal.

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/14/fluoride-effects-in-children.aspx

Too many of wnything is unhealthy...

Alex Aguiar Good fucking job not reading the actual paper and just linking it anyway. That study took place in *RURAL CHINA*, where natural fluoridation of water is way over safe limits in some areas. Could you link something actually relevant? Fucking hell.

Citations please.

Europe adds fluoride to table salt.

Why do people keep saying this lol? I am in Western Europe, and my whole country has fluoridated water.

Astro Fizzicks I'd hazard a guess and say that there are indeed some European countries that don't fluridate their water, and somewhere along the lines someone misread the phrase "some European countries" as meaning Europe in general.

TheFalrinn Misread or intentionally distorted? I'd say the latter. But yeah.

Don’t. It is Poison.

Keep on killin ur teeth

I don’t know for sure, but one thing i know is when fluoride is ingested it acts a lot like calcium. That’s all i know, maybe they are linked?

@@chinmaybhadauria5903 fluoride will deposit into the skeletal system like calcium, but make your bones weak and brittle. It will also harm your central nervous system and is generally harmful to your health if ingested.

@@spaggs111 alright, thank you for the clarity!

@@spaggs111 that’s the opposite of the truth. In reality, when fluoride ion binds our natural tooth compound, it displaces a weak bond and makes them stronger and more resistant to acid from bacteria. Fluoridation of toothpaste and water is often considered one of the most I,portent public health initiatives in history, as it has been shown to reduce not only tooth decay, but also other water bourne diseases.

And does it even rot your teeth like they say?

@@dbdperson9595 i used flouride toothpaste and nothing really happened, it kept my teeth healthy and shiny but i started getting toothaches and my tooth got chipped

And the anti-GMO movement.

IceMetalPunk At least a good chunk of the anti-GMO movement is worried about "potential" problems which could possibly be legitimate (Monsanto has some shady practices for their GMO and non-GMO crops). the fluoride and anti-vax people don't even have speculation on their side. They have proof AGAINST their claims.

userasdf It's a shame that some anti-GMO people go crazy and kind of poison the issue in the eye of the public, thus giving the more sensible members of the movement a harder job. Similar to how some animal rights groups go crazy and alienate everyone by trying to convert everyone to veganism, where they might actually be having more success at improving animal welfare if they first aimed for the more feasible stepping-stone goal of "get better conditions for farm animals".

AcerbicMaelin Very much agreed. I have a friend who is actually a physician but is also vegan. In a big rant he had against animal experimentation he said we shouldn't ever use medicine that's been experimented on in animals. And he prescribes those same exact medicines every day. He eventually admitted he was being a bit extreme (and hypocritical) and took back what he said but it made him sound so crazy and lost him that argument anyway.

userasdf The only valid potential problem with GMOs is environmental contamination, and even that I'd say isn't as much a problem as people make it out to be, considering that one species overtaking another has been the basis of evolution since the first cell formed on Earth. The only difference is that we're the ones guiding the evolution instead of randomness. As for Monsanto's business practices...first off, their practices are irrelevant to the safety of the GMOs. Second off, most of the so-called horrible business practices are unfounded claims or misrepresentations (terminator seeds aren't a thing, Monsanto has never sued anyone for accidental contamination with their seeds, and even non-GMO companies require re-purchasing of seeds at regular intervals). Third off, Monsanto is only one of many biotech firms the world over who produce GMOs, yet they are the only ones people point to for blame in anything GMO-related. They're a scapegoat. So overall, whatever you think of Monsanto (and I hope that even those opinions are based on facts, not media spin and propaganda), that's irrelevant to whether GMOs are pros or cons for the world.

Well, there is a section of "Ingestion" for fluoride on Wikipedia.

...of course, I should have seen that before, thanks.

Inga Kommentarer "If you hit your hand hard enough, you will leave a bruise, is there an item that you can hit you hand with and not cause a bruise?"

@@xXalbatros1000Xx deez nuts

Source? Also, the loss of cognitive ability in the elderly is caused by natural, age-related degradation

yeah old people in the 1500s were geniuses cause they didnt have fluoride

Lone Wolf Oh please tell me you're being sarcastic

atleast they had the common sense to not let a corrupt gov walk all over them, religion was their poison

Lagnik Demmahom yeah all that serfdom and feudal system and lack of rights was just a bad rumour... but people didnt let anybody step on them

Eric Fling Who would you rather have controlling the water supply? Individuals don't have the resources, corporations don't have the incentive (unless water prices increased a thousandfold.)

Eric Fling Yeah, screw the government! Putting a harmless chemical in our water in order to help prevent tooth decay, HOW DARE THEY?!

Eric Fling I doubt you would be smart enough to do that yourself, so the government steps in.

dangp7 So you believe a government of the people are now smarter then the people?

Maximum Of Twenty No such thing as a harmless chemical only harmless amounts. Everything can kill you with the right amount. And I know have fluorosis because I got to much fluoride when my teeth were developing. So again, not harmless.

i want to know more too" at the same time, i think dentistry makes too much money to throw any kind of wrench into the wheel yes, im skeptical of everyone

shawn vanbrunt From his body ^^