Why is it that almost all human beings are mediocre? | J. Krishnamurti

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Saanen 1980 - Question #4 from Question & Answer Meeting #5
'Why is it that almost all human beings, apart from their talents and capacities, are mediocre?'
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@soul-shaman
@soul-shaman 5 жыл бұрын
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@KFoundation
@KFoundation 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it that almost all human beings, apart from their talents and capacities, are mediocre, including Beethoven, Mozart and Bach and all the rest of them? I know I am mediocre. I don’t seem to be able to break through this mediocrity. Why is it almost all human beings, apart from their talents and capacities, are mediocre? I know I am mediocre and I don’t seem to be able to break through this mediocrity. First of all, are we aware that we are mediocre? Sir, you answer it for yourself. Mediocre means neither high nor low, just hovering in between. The great painters, the great musicians, the great architects, they have got extraordinary capacities and talent, but in their daily life they are like you and me and like everybody else. Like Haydn, when he composed he put on his best clothes, and when we go to church we put on the best clothes. You understand what I am saying? So - was it Haydn? Doesn’t matter so much. If I am aware that I am mediocre - just a minute, go into it slowly with me, please, let’s share it - if I am aware I am mediocre what does that mean? I am neither hot nor cold - right? - neither passionate; I may be lustful and I cool off. I may have great talent - writer, painter, sculptor, musician, teacher - those are all outward dress, outward show of inward poverty. Being poor inwardly, we are always struggling to become rich, not financially, but in knowledge, in understanding, in striving to something nobler, nobler, nobler. This sense of insufficiency and trying to fill that insufficiency with the latest gossip about politics, with the latest rituals, latest meditation, latest this and the - all that is an act of mediocrity. Right? Please don’t get angry with me, we are just sharing it, pointing out to each other. And this sense of mediocrity, if one is aware of it, shows itself in outward respectability. Right? Or the revolt against the mediocrity - the hippies, the long hair, the unshaved, the latest fallouts - it is the same movement. You understand? I can join a community, a commune, because inwardly there is nothing in me and by joining I become important, there is something, there is an action. So when one is aware of this mediocrity, which is this utter sense of insufficiency, this sense of deep frustrating loneliness, which is covered over by all kinds of activities. If you are aware of that, then what is insufficiency? You understand my question? What is loneliness? How do you measure this insufficiency? You follow? The moment you measure, you are insufficient. I wonder if you capture it. Do you see that? Right? No, don’t agree, but don’t measure. See, like depression is measurement. Don’t reduce everything to measurement. (Laughs) That is another catchword. You are good at catching words and repeating it, and worthless, it becomes worthless. But we are saying this insufficiency comes into being as long as there is comparison. Right? And this measurement is limitless - you can go on measuring, measuring, measuring. Not ‘limitless’. Sorry I used that word. It is a constant movement from a human being who is insufficient in himself. Now can that comparative observation end? Then is there insufficiency? You are following what I am saying? No, come on, sirs. I compare myself with you and I realise that you are much cleverer than I am, much more intelligent, nicer, alive, full of this and that. I compare myself, and then I say to myself how dull I am in comparison. So I strive to compete with you. But if I don’t compare with you who are very clever - the ‘very clever’ is already comparison; I don’t know if you follow - if I don’t compare, am I dull? Or am I aware of what is actually taking place in me? When I compare, I am avoiding the fact of ‘what is’. Is this too much of a thing for a morning? Perhaps for some of you it is. So, this mediocrity that all of us seem to have can be broken through when there is no sense of comparison, measurement. It gives you an immense freedom. Where there is freedom there is no mediocrity. Right? Do see it, sirs. The more - not ‘the more’ - where there is complete psychological freedom there is no sense of mediocrity - you follow? - you are out of that class altogether - not ‘you’ - something totally different, state of mind exists.
@Sreedevipt
@Sreedevipt 3 жыл бұрын
Outward show off inward poverty. Always struggling to be rich in knowledge, money etc..revolt against mediocrity is due to sense of insufficiency. It comes into being as long as comparison. It is a constant movement.when comparison ceases there is no insufficiency. When we compare are we aware of the thing happening inside me. Where there is freedom there is no mediocrity.
@saipavan851
@saipavan851 6 жыл бұрын
Come on sirs!!!!
@shaktird
@shaktird 6 жыл бұрын
"Where there is freedom there is no mediocrity " - That explains it all.
@dayanandanongmaithem4234
@dayanandanongmaithem4234 4 жыл бұрын
Yes enough said!
@Octwavian
@Octwavian 3 жыл бұрын
What??That means nothing. So în a free market are there no mediocre brands? Are there no average people? Boring people? It ok to be boring. But saying mediocrity doesn't exist where there is freedom... Makes almost no sense.
@atulbhatnagar1888
@atulbhatnagar1888 3 жыл бұрын
@@Octwavian Here comparison or measure at psychological level is being pointed out as mediocrity. At physical level, comparison and measure has a place, provided one is not bringing in psychological or cognitive bias; but one is understanding the value of a thing purely on its physical attributes and properties.
@munishyadav456
@munishyadav456 Жыл бұрын
@@Octwavian You will get it some day
@anishbhattacharya460
@anishbhattacharya460 Жыл бұрын
@@Octwavian it is the mediocrity of human mind that created so much unnecessary complications in simple human life. For example, overpopulation, financial terrorism(greed/corruption etc), authority, industries, pollution, world cups and television entertainment, religious leaders etc etcetcetc....and all the circuses and rest of it.... but we don't know how to see the immense beauty of life....what we know is rat races.....
@XTriPLe
@XTriPLe 4 ай бұрын
To the person who uploading jk videos , thank you from the heart , i am really changed , thanks for every thing. Keep uploading jk videos. ❤❤
@theflightmadness
@theflightmadness 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really needed to here this message right now. "Where there is freedom, there is no mediocrity." Instead of comparing ourselves to others, it is much better to be aware of what is going on inside of ourselves.
@deepakchandravanshi6274
@deepakchandravanshi6274 5 жыл бұрын
No one can describe you in words...because you are the beauty of creation...love u sir
@ravijangra5802
@ravijangra5802 5 жыл бұрын
🙏 bhai
@deepakchandravanshi6274
@deepakchandravanshi6274 5 жыл бұрын
Hey bro...😻
@rakeshmore1722
@rakeshmore1722 6 жыл бұрын
When you are comparing you are forgetting what is. I think this line is sufficient :)
@smitachhetri1648
@smitachhetri1648 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! .. but how to let go off comparison
@deivisandziulis586
@deivisandziulis586 3 жыл бұрын
@@smitachhetri1648 the whole quiet mind idea. Thought the root of fear, not recording the psychological. This is really a mediocre question by itself if you really try to grasp K, which has the same solution as most, if not all other ones
@nancybrunet7888
@nancybrunet7888 7 ай бұрын
This is one of the most intelligent messages I have heard. Thank you. 🙏
@daniellec.9559
@daniellec.9559 8 ай бұрын
Just love and only love! 💜
@100basilmat
@100basilmat 5 жыл бұрын
Living as what is with no psychological comparison,mesarement is freedom that freedom helps you to escape from the mediocrity.
@SagarKumar-zo9yg
@SagarKumar-zo9yg 3 жыл бұрын
Comparison brings mediocrity. Just like I am dull bcz other fellow has more knowledge & intelligence. In comparison we strive for what should be like I should be more knowledgeable, nobler, more intelligent. Here in comparison we can't look 'what is' , and that can only be possible when comparison comes to an end. And if one is psychologically free, he is no longer a mediocre. We always measure ourselves on the scale of what society has made like more money, power, possessions, more gathering of people around one, and we follow the same rut race, this is our conditioning.
@Rob-777
@Rob-777 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he wanted the audience to understand, see the evidence of what he was saying..
@dr.cvmohan5256
@dr.cvmohan5256 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for excellent saying Sir 🙏
@ashishgupta9857
@ashishgupta9857 3 жыл бұрын
Wao! Beautiful
@nerowolff4962
@nerowolff4962 9 жыл бұрын
What an incredible man Krishnamurti was. Rest in peace, my lord. May the glory of God be yours for ever. I would have loved to meet you in life. My house and all my possessions would have been yours if you ever had the slightest need of them. I bow to your wisdom and everlasting holiness.
@WolfEyesatNight
@WolfEyesatNight 8 жыл бұрын
+Nero Wolff he wouldn't have taken anything you offer even your words :)
@rakeshbai2732
@rakeshbai2732 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted you to deify him.
@sachindranathmukherjee3975
@sachindranathmukherjee3975 8 жыл бұрын
Once we have realized our true identity,there is no mediocrity.
@poisonsquid37
@poisonsquid37 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and no amount of meditation and positive self talk will get you there. Think about the greatest fear you have and confront it. That's where you'll find your self.
@kanthrajkalal7193
@kanthrajkalal7193 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@sharath7086
@sharath7086 4 жыл бұрын
Good question
@arvinddhakar4748
@arvinddhakar4748 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought maths is difficult or physics or some other concept or subject. But here I see actual difficulty in understanding and realising
@chinnojeerao2756
@chinnojeerao2756 3 жыл бұрын
You need freedom to understand. If you think it is tough, it is tough.
@serveshx
@serveshx Жыл бұрын
@@chinnojeerao2756 yep it's a mindset that comes in between observation, to understand anything we have to be in a state where we forget our own ego or existence just like a new born child
@tharunkumar3481
@tharunkumar3481 2 жыл бұрын
Krishnaji 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@CalumnMcAulay
@CalumnMcAulay 8 жыл бұрын
beautifully explained! especially that part about comparison and simply being aware of what is inside!
@goodearth5584
@goodearth5584 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jasleen How nice to connect to a wonderful human being like you.I love your comments too
@jswootheblackscreen
@jswootheblackscreen 3 жыл бұрын
Come on sirs!!
@Ayush12345654321
@Ayush12345654321 Жыл бұрын
Your videos and books should be a part of school curriculums.. this would be very beneficial in adding these beutiful values when mind begins to take shape. I'm 26 and I've been hearing you since I was 23-24, I've had some really beautiful but I feel my mind is still very rigid to be broken down with the ideas of freedom. As till 23 I've been hearing and living almost an opposite life. Still I beleive constant reflection of my true self would one day would take me to the reality.
@domagojgrcevic6055
@domagojgrcevic6055 Жыл бұрын
How is his book/books called?
@goodearth5584
@goodearth5584 6 жыл бұрын
don't look up to any body, don't look down on any body; don't be influenced by any body however great one may appear to be; hero worshipping is the bane of this society; let's live life fully, rising & falling, enjoying & suffering as the drama of life unfolds, knowing full well that we are neither the mind nor the body, but the all encompassing soul which is immortal.there is no God outside of us but one's own self which appears as many; I am in everything & everything is in me - the Self is all.J K in essence, tells the same.
@Jasleen09
@Jasleen09 6 жыл бұрын
GOOD EARTH I liked what u wrote... But when u said there is no god outside of us.... I disagree.... If u carefully listen to some vedios where he is asked about god... He said there is no god so that people stop worshipping the man made gods...like idols in temples...or holy books in watever form people think as god...but he also said "there is an ultimate truth which is beyond measure and timeless... " Good earth.... The power which is controlling the universal laws of karma...is "Supreme soul"...we are all souls ...god is also a soul but is called supreme because of not coming into the cycle of taking birth and then die...God is one..he cannot be everywhere like in dogs and cats and humans.... He is the highest source of power or energy in a metaphysical form...and we all take physical forms because of which when our energy or soul depletes we connect to the higher source. The line that god is inside of us depicts that we are children of source of love i.e god...and so should we behave. Jus felt like sharing ....felt Good to read ur comment and good to know that people like u make the earth beautiful... 👍
@thskendjeo134
@thskendjeo134 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasleen09 you are trapped in all that. Drop it all dear. You are seeking security in all those imaginations. Which is the result of fear. Just acknowledge fear and it's all gone. Thank you.
@azadyash
@azadyash 2 жыл бұрын
Where there is freedom there is no mediocrity 🙏
@robertthebrucegorman8002
@robertthebrucegorman8002 5 жыл бұрын
and the measure of the big self and the little self are both measurement, thought playing tricks. beyond merely denial or acceptance, niether, and when the self is not, there is that which is immeasurable, and seeing without the "see error which is the observer." Sounds maybe wacky, but when one actually finds out, it is broken through. This is Immense FREEDOM!
@user-pn9cs2zx6m
@user-pn9cs2zx6m 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@ravijangra5802
@ravijangra5802 5 жыл бұрын
💐 🙏 love u sir..
@politics4270
@politics4270 5 ай бұрын
master
@bwmanhath3770
@bwmanhath3770 Жыл бұрын
Yes I kind of get this
@errol-ih4jy
@errol-ih4jy 5 жыл бұрын
this is genius that we may never see again, I wish I could have met him.
@Sahil16753
@Sahil16753 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@brave_new_india_science
@brave_new_india_science Жыл бұрын
yes right
@mmamassmemoryart2346
@mmamassmemoryart2346 5 жыл бұрын
😍
@serveshx
@serveshx Жыл бұрын
Sir Krishnamurti maybe watching me inside when they ask do you see that and me Yes sir i can see it He is smiling at me like glad somebody understand it thanks for being here and me saying to them thank you for your existence
@Loagun
@Loagun 4 жыл бұрын
Great answer. However when he gave his answer to the question I was thinking something entirely different. I thought the question was about everyone being content with the shtty version of themselves that they are being. Wanting to change but... Never changing.
@manishgirase6130
@manishgirase6130 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same but even this was helpful!!
@BamBhole1
@BamBhole1 2 жыл бұрын
😁👍👍👍👌👌👌
@sunnycriti9809
@sunnycriti9809 6 жыл бұрын
There are also other areas of development beside art, writing, sports, science etc.
@BernieHollandMusic
@BernieHollandMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Mediocrity is an effect of decisions we have taken. Decide to be mediocre and you will be. It is the causes you are making now that will determine your future, for better or for worse. There is no more to say here.
@manishgirase6130
@manishgirase6130 2 жыл бұрын
I love u JD! Next part??
@calliclessoixantequinze5256
@calliclessoixantequinze5256 9 жыл бұрын
Where can we see a transcript of all these talks ? A lot of us here are not english and sound quality isnt that good most of the time. Though I have to admit this one is nice!
@KFoundation
@KFoundation 9 жыл бұрын
Callicles soixante quinze Most transcripts can be found performing a search at www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/index.php. Feel free to request transcripts here on KZfaq and we will paste them in the comments. Here's the transcript for this video: 5th Question: Why is it that almost all human beings, apart from their talents and capacities, are mediocre, including Beethoven, Mozart and Bach and all the rest of them? I know I am mediocre. I don’t seem to be able to break through this mediocrity. Why is it almost all human beings, apart from their talents and capacities, are mediocre? I know I am mediocre and I don’t seem to be able to break through this mediocrity. First of all, are we aware that we are mediocre? Sir, you answer it for yourself. Mediocre means neither high nor low, just hovering in between. The great painters, the great musicians, the great architects, they have got extraordinary capacities and talent, but in their daily life they are like you and me and like everybody else. Like Haydn, when he composed he put on his best clothes, and when we go to church we put on the best clothes. You understand what I am saying? So - was it Haydn? Doesn’t matter so much. If I am aware that I am mediocre - just a minute, go into it slowly with me, please, let’s share it - if I am aware I am mediocre what does that mean? I am neither hot nor cold - right? - neither passionate; I may be lustful and I cool off. I may have great talent - writer, painter, sculptor, musician, teacher - those are all outward dress, outward show of inward poverty. Being poor inwardly, we are always struggling to become rich, not financially, but in knowledge, in understanding, in striving to something nobler, nobler, nobler. This sense of insufficiency and trying to fill that insufficiency with the latest gossip about politics, with the latest rituals, latest meditation, latest this and the - all that is an act of mediocrity. Right? Please don’t get angry with me, we are just sharing it, pointing out to each other. And this sense of mediocrity, if one is aware of it, shows itself in outward respectability. Right? Or the revolt against the mediocrity - the hippies, the long hair, the unshaved, the latest fallouts - it is the same movement. You understand? I can join a community, a commune, because inwardly there is nothing in me and by joining I become important, there is something, there is an action. So when one is aware of this mediocrity, which is this utter sense of insufficiency, this sense of deep frustrating loneliness, which is covered over by all kinds of activities. If you are aware of that, then what is insufficiency? You understand my question? What is loneliness? How do you measure this insufficiency? You follow? The moment you measure, you are insufficient. I wonder if you capture it. Do you see that? Right? No, don’t agree, but don’t measure. See, like depression is measurement. Don’t reduce everything to measurement. (Laughs) That is another catchword. You are good at catching words and repeating it, and worthless, it becomes worthless. But we are saying this insufficiency comes into being as long as there is comparison. Right? And this measurement is limitless - you can go on measuring, measuring, measuring. Not ‘limitless’. Sorry I used that word. It is a constant movement from a human being who is insufficient in himself. Now can that comparative observation end? Then is there insufficiency? You are following what I am saying? No, come on, sirs. I compare myself with you and I realise that you are much cleverer than I am, much more intelligent, nicer, alive, full of this and that. I compare myself, and then I say to myself how dull I am in comparison. So I strive to compete with you. But if I don’t compare with you who are very clever - the ‘very clever’ is already comparison; I don’t know if you follow - if I don’t compare, am I dull? Or am I aware of what is actually taking place in me? When I compare, I am avoiding the fact of ‘what is’. Is this too much of a thing for a morning? Perhaps for some of you it is. So, this mediocrity that all of us seem to have can be broken through when there is no sense of comparison, measurement. It gives you an immense freedom. Where there is freedom there is no mediocrity. Right? Do see it, sirs. The more - not ‘the more’ - where there is complete psychological freedom there is no sense of mediocrity - you follow? - you are out of that class altogether - not ‘you’ - something totally different, state of mind exists.
@agnesgranada6126
@agnesgranada6126 9 жыл бұрын
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@user-sk3nc8wj2y
@user-sk3nc8wj2y Жыл бұрын
We all have inner insufficiency Which we try to fill outside With different talents With big achievements. Huge show outside But inside poverty. This inner insufficiency This inner poverty Can be removed By not comparing. There should be no comparison. When there is no comparison Then we are free in mind And We see different level of mind
@arelydewaegeneer7506
@arelydewaegeneer7506 9 ай бұрын
🤍
@carolinemulders135
@carolinemulders135 2 жыл бұрын
Why are most people mediocre? Simple. That's per definition. No matter how intelligent you are there will always be some one who's more intelligent than you are and so on and so until there's just a few people who are amongst the most intelligent. This means the largest group of people will be, compared to the most intelligent, always defined as mediocre no matter how intelligent they are.
@rightcliquegod7653
@rightcliquegod7653 7 ай бұрын
He did say apart from their talents and capacities, so he isn't really talking about the conventional use of the word intelligence here. Even without comparison with everyone else we are individually mediocre, our reactions are predictable, we aren't sensitive to ourselves and others, and we are fragmented in our approach.
@bartroberts3634
@bartroberts3634 2 жыл бұрын
Why are most of us mediocre? Because if we stand out the rest of the mediocres will pelt us with rocks and stuff! I know this!
@t.p.w.6343
@t.p.w.6343 4 жыл бұрын
He's so upset thinking no one gets it. We do. We just aren't.
@serveshx
@serveshx Жыл бұрын
The one who is striving for it gets to see that , we all people listening to them because we want to see truth, where people there sitting are just taking their sessions as time pass because those times there were very few marketing, entertainment industry not evolved to grab people attention So anything different captures their time and energy and that's what masses were doing Here we are masses in form of striving truth But only few will get to know who is really really serious about it like getting winning 10M dollar If one is that serious state of mind the one is eligible to access it even in abundance of trash or from trash or gem Circumstances never matters to those who strive with the fullest capacity
@CasualPrince
@CasualPrince 7 жыл бұрын
Q. Is K saying that those who excel at a given discipline are all inwardly poor? That their excellence in music, sport, art etc is a consequence of wanting to be 'x' which is driven by comparison and such? Can it not be said that some musicians just play for the playing, and how it's received is just that. In other words no intention of achieving "greatness"/notoriety. If anyone can explain this I'd be very grateful. Thank you.
@TheNagaBaba
@TheNagaBaba 7 жыл бұрын
I think what he is saying is to stop comparing and start acting in total freedom. In total freedom there is no mediocrity. Now as a rule, you will excel if there is no mediocrity....that's what I think he said...
@pradeepprad
@pradeepprad 7 жыл бұрын
I think he is not saying that the one who excels, as a rule, is inwardly poor. If one sees talent as such, as a matter of fact, something which one happens to get, then there is no problem at all. But if one makes talent a source of psychological fulfillment, pride, and superiority, then one makes it into a problem. And also, we can never be sure of artist's intents. If we observe carefully, we may get some insights into their intents. Have you been to a concert? Have you seen the rush of pride on the artist's face when the audience applaud? The various gestures they make to show who is the boss around?
@tommathew7684
@tommathew7684 4 жыл бұрын
It is similar to "doing good works" in the New Testament.
@RonMazasco
@RonMazasco 4 жыл бұрын
@@pradeepprad I would replace 'pride' with gratefulness, when an artist receives applause. I doubt a really great musician is showing 'pride and who is boss'. But then again, some might do just that.
@jameslynn3702
@jameslynn3702 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong. Mr. K., is saying if you are in real "Meditation", see that you are mediocre, with no comment, just observe, watch, that's all. Nothing more.
@Charonic
@Charonic 4 жыл бұрын
His frustration is palpable XD
@xyzmedia5161
@xyzmedia5161 6 ай бұрын
I feel worthless
@stefanholmberg2146
@stefanholmberg2146 3 жыл бұрын
So, are we in a prison. What is the meaning. We know nothing.
@cutyoursoul4398
@cutyoursoul4398 2 жыл бұрын
You are the prison
@marcusmusique4031
@marcusmusique4031 3 жыл бұрын
a bit of a harsh question there. who judges that this or that is mediocre ?
@macdougdoug
@macdougdoug 4 жыл бұрын
poor old K, so many confused faces staring back at him
@therainbowcafe5304
@therainbowcafe5304 5 жыл бұрын
👎 Get off the stage!!!!!
@BernieHollandMusic
@BernieHollandMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Impossible - for we are all actors on the stage of life !
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