Why is the Heir to the British Throne Called the Prince of Wales?

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The Generalist Papers

The Generalist Papers

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The son of Queen Elizabeth, Prince Charles, is of course called the Prince of Wales. But why is that, when he's part of the English royal family? Well, it has to do with a story of war, political intrigue, and conquest.
Some Sources:
A History of Wales by John Davies
A History of Wales: From the Norman Invasion to the Edwardian Conquest
By John Edward Lloyd
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Niklas Drude - Welsh Coast • Welsh Coast - Royalty ...
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@TheGeneralistPapers
@TheGeneralistPapers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! And yes, I know I mispronounced Worcester, y'all can stop telling me (but I know you won't).
@spexbeanfarmer
@spexbeanfarmer 2 жыл бұрын
more offended by the butchered welsh names xD
@Otacatapetl
@Otacatapetl 2 жыл бұрын
@@spexbeanfarmer I'm English but even I cringed 😅
@noahway13
@noahway13 2 жыл бұрын
Can you, or have you done a video on how women are included or excluded in certain systems as supreme leader? I have often heard about kings that want a son so he can be the next monarch...
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the only thing you mispronounced!
@arespaulson414
@arespaulson414 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to say exactly that! Lol... sorry. You should add an errata to this comment, actually including the correct pronounciation...
@zanizone3617
@zanizone3617 2 жыл бұрын
"Having grown discontented with English rule... " must be one of the most common descriptors in history, about the start of any sort of rebellion.
@Luke-A
@Luke-A 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we did get around a fair bit in our younger days. Settled down now though kind of just sit by the fire with a book until one of the cousins starts a fight.
@painbow6528
@painbow6528 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, all the countries that now have democracy and freedom.
@feralfeel9235
@feralfeel9235 2 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@feralfeel9235
@feralfeel9235 2 жыл бұрын
Laughing in the USA 🤣
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 2 жыл бұрын
The English are there now!
@baronbattles4681
@baronbattles4681 Жыл бұрын
You missed my favorite story, that the King of England promised the Welsh royals that he would name as Prince of Wales a royal prince who spoke no English. However, in keeping his promise, he tricked them by naming his infant son, who couldn’t talk at that point as Prince of Wales, instead of one of them.
@billder2655
@billder2655 11 ай бұрын
real life 100 speech check
@3John-Bishop
@3John-Bishop 11 ай бұрын
Trickery..Ed the first is my favorite king
@juanitolopez9731
@juanitolopez9731 11 ай бұрын
The story says that the Welsh nobles put three conditons to the invader English king before he could designate the first Prince of Wales, in 1284: 1: the infant must be born in Wales. 2: the infant must be of royal blood. 3: the infant must not speak a single word of English. The English king simply presented his newborn son, who had been born in Wales only a few days before, who was of Royal blood, and, obviously, who spoke no word at all yet, neither in English or any other language.
@3John-Bishop
@3John-Bishop 11 ай бұрын
@@juanitolopez9731 Did the Welsh cry foul over this and demand a Welsh person?
@gudmundursteinar
@gudmundursteinar 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the best part of the story. After defeating the Welsh rebels Longshanks decided to quiet the rebellious lords by declaring that he would appoint a prince, born in wales, to the title Prince of Wales This seemed to make the welsh princes happy until he appointed his son, who had been born in wales, and was a prince, Prince of Wales. Trolling is very very medieval.
@narannavan
@narannavan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Never happened, though.
@gudmundursteinar
@gudmundursteinar 2 жыл бұрын
@@narannavan I don't don't know.. but the rule of a good story is to never let the truth get in it's way.
@dannypipewrench533
@dannypipewrench533 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, ye Olde Trollinge.
@theophrastusbombastus1359
@theophrastusbombastus1359 2 жыл бұрын
@5:51
@peterallman8474
@peterallman8474 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to add to the (mythical) story that he also promised not only would the prince be born in Wales, but wouldn't speak English, which of course the baby didn't.
@faithjacksondocherty8970
@faithjacksondocherty8970 2 жыл бұрын
When they call NI “the quiet one”… *whispers- who’s gonna tell him*
@petervaughan6854
@petervaughan6854 2 жыл бұрын
Innit...
@jamiejosh96
@jamiejosh96 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think he is up to date on recent history. Northern Ireland certainly haven’t been quiet
@samuelgunter
@samuelgunter 2 жыл бұрын
well you're whispering sooooo....
@romainsavioz5466
@romainsavioz5466 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Stand663
@Stand663 2 жыл бұрын
The quiet ones with schizophrenic neighbours.
@MagickArmory
@MagickArmory 2 жыл бұрын
Your forgot to add that Wales has the coolest flag lol
@davea6314
@davea6314 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, a dragon is on the flag.
@mehhandle
@mehhandle 2 жыл бұрын
Can't disagree with you there, Wales has a great flag 👍
@davea6314
@davea6314 2 жыл бұрын
@@mehhandle I'm from the USA. I've been to Wales. There were a lot of people with the last names Jones and Evans in Wales. Also, the Welsh word for stop has a lot of letters in it.
@wrestlersforindy4490
@wrestlersforindy4490 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean 'Malta'
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 2 жыл бұрын
@@davea6314 Surprisingly, the second most common surname in Wales is Davies. I thought Evans and Williams and Hughes would be more common.
@jcaseyoneseventy
@jcaseyoneseventy 2 жыл бұрын
The heir to the throne of the United Kingdom isn't automatically titled The Prince of Wales. But the title The Prince of Wales can only be bestowed upon the heir to the throne.
@MissBabalu102
@MissBabalu102 Жыл бұрын
I heard that now Prince William will now be the Prince of Wales. That is good, but I still do not know if it is out of respect for Llewellyn the Great and Wales or a power grab.
@saundracarter-hebert
@saundracarter-hebert Жыл бұрын
Is that why Queen Elizabeth II was never Princess of Wales despite being heir since childhood? Or is it only a male inheritance?
@RossKyle95
@RossKyle95 Жыл бұрын
@@saundracarter-hebert think was more out of her dad not expecting to be king but the title of Princess of wales can exist - does exist
@akshayramdaw9003
@akshayramdaw9003 Жыл бұрын
@@saundracarter-hebert her uncle who was meant to be king was the prince of Wales but when he vacated the throne she became queen
@No-hd4cg
@No-hd4cg Жыл бұрын
@@saundracarter-hebert the title Princess of Wales is only given to the wife of the Prince of Wales. Since 1631, the eldest daughter of the monarch can be given the title Princess Royal, however the title was never available for Queen Elizabeth II during the reign of her father King George VI as her aunt Princess Mary already had the title (When the monarch’s eldest daughter receives the title Princess Royal she keeps it for life unless she becomes queen). When Mary died in 1965, Elizabeth was already queen thus she couldn’t inherit the title.
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 2 жыл бұрын
Wales is arguably older than England seeing how the Britons used to inhabit those lands.
@gundarvarr1024
@gundarvarr1024 2 жыл бұрын
Old tends to be congquer by the young bcoz how old they are. Always happened that way.
@edwardtandy9613
@edwardtandy9613 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 Actually there is no definitive example of a country. And Wales was most definitely recognised as a separate nation as the Welsh were recognised as a people divided by a boarder between the "English" counties.
@RitoDurito
@RitoDurito 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 when the Anglo saxons first arrived they called the Britons "walla" which eventually changed into Welsh/Wales in the English language, they knew it was a country and the Welsh themselves reffered to each other as cymru which from what I understand translates into "fellow countrymen" I'm no expert but that's more or less how it was after the Romans left.
@RitoDurito
@RitoDurito 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 with that logic aincent Greece wasn't a country at all as it consisted of warring city states.
@RitoDurito
@RitoDurito 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 I can't tell if you're trolling me now so this has to be my last comment on the matter, the Greeks referenced themselves as greeks in Greece constantly, from what I know even Philip of macedons planned invasion of persia was literally meant to be a united Greek invasion. Countries aren't defined by literal governments but by the people who live there and its really down to them if it is a country and with Wales it definitely was the case as in their language they literally call each other countrymen
@Nyjawonder
@Nyjawonder 2 жыл бұрын
I was like 8 years old watching Prince Charles get invested as PoW. All I could think of is why is this lady hitting this poor boy on his shoulders with a sword. What did he do?
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 2 жыл бұрын
When he's naughty and gets punished, they don't have to say he's crying. They can just call him the Prince of Wails.
@haileyxin
@haileyxin 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@KarmaKraftttt
@KarmaKraftttt 2 жыл бұрын
Wales* 😒😒😒😒😒
@perharaasansandran6821
@perharaasansandran6821 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is underrated 😂😂
@ishanvyas1990
@ishanvyas1990 2 жыл бұрын
@@KarmaKraftttt u clearly didn't get the joke😅😂😂
@KarmaKraftttt
@KarmaKraftttt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishanvyas1990 You're endian ?
@danmitigation3273
@danmitigation3273 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really enjoyed it..For future reference Worcester is pronounced 'Wus-ster' ..I'm from the UK and we have a few places that are not pronunced in an obvious way Leicester and Middlesbrough being 2 examples..I believe it has something to do with the vowel shift, place names were pronunced different ways over the centuries and the spelling didn't always match..Maybe a cool topic for a future video!! Keep up the great work ✌
@llydrsn
@llydrsn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not from the UK but I've been a fan of British comedy for a long time now and the way they say the place names a lot of times really makes me confused 😅 that would be a nice idea for a video also, how it came about. And while we're at it, the different accents and languages in the UK is also fascinating. I've always thought english is the only language spoken over there!
@danmitigation3273
@danmitigation3273 2 жыл бұрын
@@llydrsn Well we have celtic languages to some degree, Welsh in particular seems to be the most used but I don't know for sure..UK accents can be an challenge even for native Brits but I enjoy all the differences keeps things fun..This video explains things well for place names kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q79-rdSYup3SkWg.html
@llydrsn
@llydrsn 2 жыл бұрын
@@danmitigation3273 thanks man!
@danmitigation3273
@danmitigation3273 2 жыл бұрын
@@llydrsn No worries..Which country are you from? Would be interested to hear some other countries language quirks
@llydrsn
@llydrsn 2 жыл бұрын
@@danmitigation3273 I'm from the Philippines! I started watching British shows from here about 5 or 6 years ago when I was offered a job in Dunbar, Scotland. Unfortunately, I had to decline due to some family reasons. For language quirks, basically our "official" language is Filipino which is a strange combination of a local language (Tagalog), Spanish, and English - with a smattering of Chinese and Malay. A Swiss colleague of mine who knows Spanish and English claims he can understand what we were talking about in Filipino due to the number of familiar words. And oh, we have a local Spanish Creole language in some places here too due to over 300 years of Spanish occupation
@michaeld8280
@michaeld8280 2 жыл бұрын
"Co-Equal" and nobody has ever called Belfast "lovely"
@michaeld8280
@michaeld8280 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 Two out of the four countries that make up the UK have main political parties that want to leave the UK. You can "point dexter" your arse off all you want bud about the system of government. It's utterly irrelevant to the point I was making.
@jacktreanor1163
@jacktreanor1163 2 жыл бұрын
I love Belfast, it’s beautiful
@michaeld8280
@michaeld8280 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 Are you slow man?
@michaeld8280
@michaeld8280 2 жыл бұрын
@@gideonroos1188 Haha ad hominems. Oh man....
@-spudman2.054
@-spudman2.054 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeld8280 stop it you're embarrassing yourself
@timothyhouse1622
@timothyhouse1622 2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, when I was REALLY young I thought Prince of Wales had to do with the ocean and marine life.
@sandrakateme7798
@sandrakateme7798 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@salmanfarruz
@salmanfarruz Жыл бұрын
Like Namor?
@commodorezero
@commodorezero 11 ай бұрын
Intrestingly the comparable position in France is daulphin or dolphin.
@danman101stefan
@danman101stefan 2 жыл бұрын
This level of editing and graphics for such a modest view count isn’t fair, I’ll make sure to flex that I was a part of the 8000ish when you go big.
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions Жыл бұрын
I found the title "Prince of Wales" to be quite curious! Although I vaguely knew about the medieval Principality of Wales, this video provided me with plenty more information, including the possible "first" Princes of Wales, the story of the conquest of Wales, and even how the future Charles III gave his investiture speech... in Welsh! Thanks for the video! Subscribed!
@nancy9324
@nancy9324 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly my question. Thank you for your clear explanation!
@hptpbookworm
@hptpbookworm Жыл бұрын
Sharon Kay Penman wrote a great trilogy about Llewelyn the Great through Llewelyn the Last called the Welsh Princes trilogy, which brings this all to life. Highly recommend!
@suryaphatak9776
@suryaphatak9776 2 жыл бұрын
The art style is amazing, great video 😁
@wellthatagedwell2716
@wellthatagedwell2716 2 жыл бұрын
Facinating video! Never thought about this until your video showed up! Really informative! Keep up the good work
@danielwalshe3354
@danielwalshe3354 2 жыл бұрын
Not an American saying Scotland is the rebellious one and NI is quiet 😂😂
@rathersane
@rathersane 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose we could call NI “the quiet one,” as in the one we probably should be watching the most.
@alexroberts771
@alexroberts771 2 жыл бұрын
Technically Scotland is older than England
@circularcommunitiescymru9991
@circularcommunitiescymru9991 Жыл бұрын
All of the Celtic populations are older than England
@Abbermist
@Abbermist Жыл бұрын
Wales is older than Scotland, England and Northern Ireland. The Cymru ('Welsh' in English) tribes fought the Romans.
@devingraves8044
@devingraves8044 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so high quality, needs way more views
@brains7733
@brains7733 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. It's very informative and educating.
@yoda1mama4
@yoda1mama4 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video🎉🙌🏻
@JG-my9mj
@JG-my9mj 2 жыл бұрын
Love videos like these, please make more
@harrywood6502
@harrywood6502 2 жыл бұрын
Charles is not the crown prince of England, he's heir to the UK throne. You also say the "countries" of the UK are "coequal". They are not equal. The powers of the NI, Scottish and Welsh devolved governments are different and England has no devolved government at all. Furthermore, you make it sound like the UK is a federation. It isn't. And I have no idea how you could describe NI as "quiet". Ever heard of the troubles? Heard of the brexit Irish border issue?
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 2 жыл бұрын
The term Crown Prince is used to denote an heir to the throne. He's not called that here, but foreigners would use that term and it's not strictly wrong. The initial description, though, wasn't accurate. Calling England "popular". 😂 Can't watch much European-centric sport, then.
@harrywood6502
@harrywood6502 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavies3637 the issue isn't "crown prince", it's "of England". That title doesn't exist.
@khawpuiathianhlun2823
@khawpuiathianhlun2823 2 жыл бұрын
Ty.. ur from?
@bensonfang1868
@bensonfang1868 2 жыл бұрын
Scotland is pretty coequal considering they joined via marriage of crowns, not conquest
@strasbourgeois1
@strasbourgeois1 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ
@mx9985
@mx9985 Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. Amazing, man!
@samuelroot6045
@samuelroot6045 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video 🤗
@joeygretler6074
@joeygretler6074 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one! I never quite understood why they called them that.
@DanHaug
@DanHaug 2 жыл бұрын
I realize that history is fraught with disagreements, but this is an incredibly biased telling of the history of English conquest of Wales. It also has a lot of inaccuracies, and states some English claims as fact in spite of documentary evidence that contradicts those claims. However the most egregious thing about this telling is that it leaves out the most interesting parts of the story. For instance, the Welsh lords told Edward they would never bend the knee to a Prince of Wales who spoke English and had not been born in Wales. Edward took his pregnant wife to the still incomplete castle in Caernarfon (the true hinterlands of that time). When his son was born, he later crowned him "Prince of Wales," telling the lords that their conditions had been met.
@gudmundursteinar
@gudmundursteinar 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, Longshanks is the OG pre-Interneet Troll and never to be doubted.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, so that's why the castle's name is stuck to his name. I just saw this vid and I thought it was weird.
@l4nd3r
@l4nd3r 2 жыл бұрын
This is false.
@paulinecoburn181
@paulinecoburn181 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when Americans take over UK history 🙄
@opinanlosjovenesrd3477
@opinanlosjovenesrd3477 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulinecoburn181 😂😂
@storykeeper8684
@storykeeper8684 2 жыл бұрын
This was nicely done!
@mikhaelyosia1663
@mikhaelyosia1663 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great video mate! Please make moreeee
@Seetor
@Seetor 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Always wondered about that.
@sagemcallister4822
@sagemcallister4822 2 жыл бұрын
The double L in "Llewelyn" is pronounced at the sides of your tongue. Like in Aztec the word "Tlatoani". Think Sid the Sloth when pronouncing Welsh double Ls.
@The_Paradox__
@The_Paradox__ 2 жыл бұрын
How do you manage to make that sound with nothing before it? I've been trying to get it to work but I've just been sitting and saying "Llewelyn" over and over again.
@heyjohna
@heyjohna 2 жыл бұрын
He couldn’t even pronounce Worcester correctly and that’s in English! Pronouncing Llewelyn in Welsh is asking a bit much, don’t you think?
@elainestokes2787
@elainestokes2787 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a hiss from the back of your mouth. It’s so much easier to pronounce words this way.
@cloudkitt
@cloudkitt 2 жыл бұрын
@@heyjohna lol, it may be English, but don't act like the pronunciation makes sense.
@MissBabalu102
@MissBabalu102 Жыл бұрын
I was made to practice my name by Welsh tourists: chlewechlyn=Llewellyn Is that even close? Help.
@BORN-to-Run
@BORN-to-Run 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU so much for that interesting history that I've never heard of. I had, however, wondered why... Thumbs-UP and Subscribed.
@christinelubega6122
@christinelubega6122 Жыл бұрын
Excellent research and knowledge
@SteveBlues87
@SteveBlues87 Жыл бұрын
Did you just call Wales, Englands younger brother? You realise Wales is basically what remains of Britannia before Roman invasion, before there even was an England, right?
@GwladYrHaf
@GwladYrHaf Жыл бұрын
Correct, the Welsh are the original and indigenous Britons. The ignorance of this video is a testament to the lack of proper education of its creators.
@MissBabalu102
@MissBabalu102 Жыл бұрын
I think at least somebody was already in Britain before the Celts came over from Europe in the then shallow sea, not sure when. 1500bc? Don't be so hard on this video maker, he did well. It's KZfaq. Good grief.
@lloyd9500
@lloyd9500 11 ай бұрын
@@MissBabalu102 Precisely. Because it's on KZfaq, we have the right to criticize it as we see fit. Calling Wales "England's younger brother" is plainly false and the creator should be called out for it
@MissBabalu102
@MissBabalu102 11 ай бұрын
@@lloyd9500 Fine, but maybe be gentle, yet accurate. How do you think I feel, my Grandpa 900 years ago was the Last Great Prince of Wales. The English tricked him, while he was trying to do good.
@timphillips9954
@timphillips9954 11 ай бұрын
@@MissBabalu102 No rubbish this is total misinformation
@jon6309
@jon6309 2 жыл бұрын
What about the British overseas territories and special regions like Isle of Man and the Channel Islands? Would be interested to see you cover these topics too
@NicholaiB
@NicholaiB Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed ur video. Keep up the good work.
@nereb100
@nereb100 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much - I learned a lot. Regards from Vienna, Austrie
@cymro6537
@cymro6537 Жыл бұрын
1:48 Owain is pronounced 'Owe -wine' 2:40 Aberdyfi is pronounced 'Aber - dove - ee' 3:49 Dafydd is pronounced 'Dah-vith'
@Tomallenny
@Tomallenny Жыл бұрын
Male chicken is pronounced "cock'. We all done with stupid so we can go on to comments that have meaning.
@cymro6537
@cymro6537 Жыл бұрын
@@Tomallenny I'm a Welsh speaker, and for me at least when Welsh words or names are mispronounced it's the audio equivalent of dragging fingernails down a blackboard . If you _will_ have a compulsion for the need to comment, at least make it constructive.
@kayzar293
@kayzar293 Жыл бұрын
Worcester is not wooctesir too
@wingberry123
@wingberry123 Жыл бұрын
He isn't a Welsh native speaker, but he was able to answer the question.
@pauljordan4452
@pauljordan4452 10 ай бұрын
​@@TomallennyDon't be an arse about the Welsh pronunciations.
@liliman-moli615
@liliman-moli615 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid Can you make one of Spain and the Prince of Asturias, please?!
@americanloyalist4599
@americanloyalist4599 2 жыл бұрын
Princess of asturias
@aleydalauria5094
@aleydalauria5094 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting,thank you
@RaySarasin
@RaySarasin Жыл бұрын
You did a great job i learned a lot never mind the rude comments as a Canadian I learned so much thank you
@adnyc82
@adnyc82 2 жыл бұрын
Worcester is pronounced “Wuss-ter,” not “War-sester.” See also: Gloucester (“Gloss-ter”) and Leicester (“Less-ter”)
@petervaughan6854
@petervaughan6854 2 жыл бұрын
The Welsh pronunciations were even worse, but this too
@Kinghavs
@Kinghavs 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.. you must pardon us the brutes of America
@adampoultney8737
@adampoultney8737 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I’d just tell Americans to pronounce Leicester like Lester form gta they usually understand then
@newtscamander2461
@newtscamander2461 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is “Worcestershire sauce” giving him the pronunciation wuss-tuh-sher
@urbangorilla33
@urbangorilla33 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kinghavs Worcester, MA is pronounced same as the British.
@LandAnchor
@LandAnchor 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, well animated and entertaining. Including the ‘English’ pronunciations in particular The Treaty of ‘Wuster’
@mdmjeremiah
@mdmjeremiah 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t figure out which was cooler, your video or the music you used in the video. Either way I learned something I always wanted to know and found some cool new music to listen to as well. Double win!
@lordjunk5847
@lordjunk5847 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered this and Google was never a help so thank you!
@dylanpsinakis7930
@dylanpsinakis7930 2 жыл бұрын
Prince of Asturias (Spain), Prince of Orange ( Dutch) are also princes that could get the throne in the future in their respective countries.
@americanloyalist4599
@americanloyalist4599 2 жыл бұрын
Princesses I think Belgium have some like that too
@americanloyalist4599
@americanloyalist4599 2 жыл бұрын
Both heirs are princesses
@hummingbirdee9389
@hummingbirdee9389 Жыл бұрын
All descendants from Queen Victoria are spread across and in the European Royal Monarchy. The heirs of these European Monarchy are in line to the UK throne. 🇬🇧
@nirnman
@nirnman 2 жыл бұрын
you summed things up nicely but omitted the story that Edward 1to tey and make the Welsh lords amenable to English rule promised them a prince who could speak no word of English and as his pregnant wife was about to give birth while they were in Carnarvon showed the newly born infant, who was unable to talk, to the assembled lords as the promised Prince of Wales who could speak no English
@NovaM87
@NovaM87 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same.
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 2 жыл бұрын
Even if the Prince could talk, he still wouldn't have spoken a word of English. English monarchs didn't start speaking English until like the 1400s.
@nirnman
@nirnman 2 жыл бұрын
@@SRosenberg203 Edward the first would have been speaking English
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 2 жыл бұрын
@@nirnman He might have had a few words or phrases, but he certainly wasn't fluent. The language of the Court was Norman-French until like Henry V.
@nirnman
@nirnman 2 жыл бұрын
@@SRosenberg203 while it was Henry V who promoted English as the language for the court earlier kings especially Edward I who had learned English as a child they were probably a least able to speak and understand both Norman-French and English
@Chris_Cross
@Chris_Cross Жыл бұрын
Impeccable timing, KZfaq recommendations.
@stuartcollins82
@stuartcollins82 Жыл бұрын
"the welsh seemd to accept the new princes of wales" well, they really didn't have any choice.
@chriswilliams7480
@chriswilliams7480 2 жыл бұрын
He is not the crown prince of England. He is heir to the throne of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and a Northern Ireland
@sion8
@sion8 2 жыл бұрын
Thank-you! I really don't understand why people get stuck on England🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 = Britain🇬🇧. Then again people used Russia interchangeably with the Soviet Union for 7 decades and would have kept going if it still existed.
@samuelgunter
@samuelgunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@sion8 one reason is because people say "British accent" more commonly than "English accent", and a British accent is way different than a Scottish or Irish accent
@sion8
@sion8 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelgunter You just did what I said isn't correct. A British accent covers all those accents in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, all British! An English accent are only those from England, a Welsh only those in Wales, a Scottish accent all those from Scotland, and Northern-Irish accent only those from Northern Ireland. Equating British as English is as wrong as equating U.S. accents as only those from California!
@samuelgunter
@samuelgunter 2 жыл бұрын
@@sion8 read my comment again, carefully
@sion8
@sion8 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelgunter I did.
@petertrebilco9430
@petertrebilco9430 2 жыл бұрын
He’s also known (if only by himself) as the Duke of Cornwall, in subjugation of the proud Kernowyon Celts, the fifth country comprising the United (or Subjugated) Queendom.
@rothberg107
@rothberg107 2 жыл бұрын
In fact, the male heir (things have now changed with the changes in the rules of the order of succession in order to remove primogeniture) was created Duke of Cornwall at birth, and only later Prince of Wales at the discretion of the sovereign.
@michaelorton6947
@michaelorton6947 8 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that in pre-Saxon times some folk would count Cornwall as part of Wales. I'm not sure exactly where that border was. The Tamar? And if you want a strange Royal Duke, consider the Duke of Lancaster. The Duchy of Lancaster certainly exists: it can have a Chancellor (who, if appointed, sits in The Cabinet). Yet the Duke of Lancaster is strangely absent. Of all the Royal Dukes, the Duke of Lancaster never appears to pay homage to the crown and never takes a seat in the House of Lords. Well that's not quite true. Many years ago the Duke of Lancaster took a seat in the House of Lords and still has it. It's that fancy one at the front. Once the Duke of Lancaster defeated the Duke of York, the Duke of Lancaster became King. The Monarch grants all the other titles, and holds all titles not currently granted to anyone else, but does not have the string of lower titles most other peers have. The Monarch acts as Duke of Lancaster, has all the benefits of being Duke of Lancaster (and a very rich Dukedom it is too) and will never ever grant the title Duke of Lancaster to anyone else, but it would make no heraldic sense at all to say the King is Duke of Lancaster. Which, in some ways, is a shame.
@eagleflies9515
@eagleflies9515 5 ай бұрын
kernow bys vyken brother
@petertrebilco9430
@petertrebilco9430 5 ай бұрын
@@eagleflies9515 A yll’ta kewsel Kernewek?
@nickvandergraaf1053
@nickvandergraaf1053 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@nickvandergraaf1053
@nickvandergraaf1053 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of nit pickers here. They're right. You gotta get the details correct.
@michaelgautreaux3168
@michaelgautreaux3168 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Many thanx 👍👍
@kimberlyarrington5721
@kimberlyarrington5721 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this I never knew why the Crown Prince was called the Prince of Wales until Now Lol
@johncassani6780
@johncassani6780 Жыл бұрын
“Worcester” is pronounced “wooster,” with the “oo” being short, like in “cook.” This applies to the city or county in England, as well as the city in Massachusetts.
@siyabongamviko8872
@siyabongamviko8872 Жыл бұрын
We also have Worcester in South Africa, the Western Cape.
@thegreypath1777
@thegreypath1777 Жыл бұрын
fyi: There also is a Wooster, Ohio. It is pronounced: “wister” SHORT i.
@johncassani6780
@johncassani6780 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreypath1777 Some people pronounce Worcester MA like that.
@allykat5899
@allykat5899 10 ай бұрын
Does it also apply to Worcester source.
@reeritz1280
@reeritz1280 Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting video. I must say it's nice to know where & how the Prince of Wales title began. I wonder how many Brutains know this history. Excellent😆👍✌❤
@paulfranklin8636
@paulfranklin8636 Жыл бұрын
I can assure you that there are few million of us in Wales who know the history and despise it....centuries of oppression are not going to be forgiven....
@oanamanole9005
@oanamanole9005 2 жыл бұрын
"Worcestshir" 🤣 aww...makes me remember my young days in the UK when I didn't know why people are missing out whole letters in their pronunciation
@PeterJonesKajuenRyu
@PeterJonesKajuenRyu 2 жыл бұрын
Your pronunciations are most amusing. Worcester is pronounced “Wooster” and Daffydd is “Davith”
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 2 жыл бұрын
*Dafydd
@jimmimak
@jimmimak 2 жыл бұрын
Wuster as in muster, not wooster as in rooster
@PeterJonesKajuenRyu
@PeterJonesKajuenRyu 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmimak Closer to rooster than muster. Like a “ü”
@cgaccount3669
@cgaccount3669 2 жыл бұрын
Actually pronunciation can vary wildly within a language. You are correct that the locals pronounce it that way... which is arguably the correct way. But regional variations in pronunciation aren't really what you'd call wrong. They're just different. Many English speaking countries and regions pronounce things differently. Not to forget that words and pronunciation can also change with time.
@theperson8487
@theperson8487 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgaccount3669 Worcester is a town in England. The British pronounce it wusster. Enough said.
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was Welsh. His telling of this history differs somewhat from the official English account.
@coolstuffer123
@coolstuffer123 2 жыл бұрын
Might you tell us this story?
@blindknitter
@blindknitter Жыл бұрын
Now would be a good time to tell it.
@zenko247
@zenko247 Жыл бұрын
History is written by the victors
@paulfranklin8636
@paulfranklin8636 Жыл бұрын
@@coolstuffer123 you want him to tell you the history of Wales via a KZfaq comment section?....there's dumb and then there's your request
@ABC1701A
@ABC1701A Жыл бұрын
In fairness my uncles (Welsh) version is slightly different from the account given as well. Would like to have known what my great great grandfather thought on the subject (he was Welsh and owned/ran a school in Wales until he married a lass from Aberdeenshire. Then they both moved to England and he taught in schools there).
@ThePolypam
@ThePolypam Жыл бұрын
WorsTecer, lol. Minor dig aside, this was a great summary with entertaining visuals. Good job 👌.
@robertsullivan4773
@robertsullivan4773 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks 😊
@jacktherip2894
@jacktherip2894 2 жыл бұрын
I like the brothers analogy for anyone outside of the UK who doesn’t know the kingdoms that comprise it… however I can tell you that using that analogy inside of the UK will only get you beaten up, atleast by anyone not from England.
@TinTeddyVideos
@TinTeddyVideos Жыл бұрын
It's a rather faulty analogy. Wales is hardly the "youngest brother".
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
He's actually called 'Big Ears' (if he's lucky).
@georgegarmin3146
@georgegarmin3146 Жыл бұрын
thanks for video
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 2 жыл бұрын
Good Show!
@markeddowes1467
@markeddowes1467 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should also mention that Charles was invested with the title in Caernavon castle in north Wales
@fisherlewis1799
@fisherlewis1799 Жыл бұрын
Having lived in aberffraw, sometimes in the dead of the night people claim they can hear distant war cries and sounds of age old language welsh being spoken, the square in aberffraw at night is scary
@Lnch4ALion
@Lnch4ALion Жыл бұрын
Ooh spooky
@dianabower3960
@dianabower3960 Жыл бұрын
Aberffraw is scary at the best of times, 🤣🤣 roll on the disco nights, anyone remember that? XOXO
@MissBabalu102
@MissBabalu102 Жыл бұрын
Exactly where is Aberffrow? Surely I now misspelled it.
@theyjustwantyourmoney4539
@theyjustwantyourmoney4539 Жыл бұрын
Quite a lot to chew there, thanks for the explanation.
@queenofwales_
@queenofwales_ Жыл бұрын
As for a person who’s a complete outsider regarding this topic, I must say this was quite interesting to get to know at least a vague explanation of how comes that the heir of Great Britain, living in England, for wte reason is a Prince of Wales. In my country Wales as a country is just as an alien topic as my country everywhere else outside my country, so, going through The Crown and finding out a bit more info regarding Wales felt quite relatable. Otherwise, actually, we have heard here of Wales mostly only in the context of, ironically, English royals.
@welsh_Witch
@welsh_Witch Жыл бұрын
this is why I like King Charles III he actually took pride in being Prince of Wales and learned about Wales.
@drasticbuzzguy1887
@drasticbuzzguy1887 Жыл бұрын
Charles is a true king 👑👑
@circularcommunitiescymru9991
@circularcommunitiescymru9991 Жыл бұрын
Would help if he was Welsh. No country should have to put up with having a figurehead foisted upon it by another in this day and age. It's disgusting.
@paulfranklin8636
@paulfranklin8636 Жыл бұрын
He was as much use as chocolate teapot, learned about Wales? yeh right.....came here and shook a few hands from time to time, otherwise ignored us...
@lynnhubbard844
@lynnhubbard844 Жыл бұрын
and the new one PW lived there briefly, too
@lynnhubbard844
@lynnhubbard844 Жыл бұрын
@@drasticbuzzguy1887 we'll see.......
@Tom-bs1em
@Tom-bs1em 2 жыл бұрын
He’s part of the British royal family, not the English royal family
@iceleaf2
@iceleaf2 2 жыл бұрын
This was great
@henrynova7912
@henrynova7912 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thank you. Just a little note" Worcester is pronounced wooster with the double o sounding like woof
@gwynwilliams4222
@gwynwilliams4222 2 жыл бұрын
Wales are infact the oldest of the country's by about 10.000 years
@seancarroll6924
@seancarroll6924 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was just about the comment the same thing, he also brushed over the fact Llywelyn the Great fought the English and won most of the battles, and that Treaty of Worcester was the only way that Henry III could save face
@aodhanmonaghan4664
@aodhanmonaghan4664 2 жыл бұрын
Oldest by 10 years? That's an odd statement to make really. If we're talking about the 4 parts of the UK, and when they as that particular entity was a fully independent sovereign country: England, 927 to 1707 Scotland, 843 to 1707 Wales 1216 to 1546 Northern Ireland has never been independent. It was created in 1921, and didn't exist before Cornwall, 722 to 838 A few notes though. When the Norman invasion was over, the Normans didn't control all of what's now England. The Lake District wasn't in England yet for a start. Edinburgh wasn't even in Scotland when Scotland was formed. It was in a neighbouring country of Lothian that was later absorbed. Some of the dates are kinda arbitrary. Like there was an England arguably once Wessex had conquered Essex, Kent, Sussex, Middlesex and East Anglia. That was the first kingdom of the angles here. Conquering mercia (the Midlands) and Northumbria (the north of England), was a fair bit later. Similar with Wales, there was a Wales sure, but it only covered Gwynedd to start and then later on more of north and central Wales. I'm not sure if that ever covered as much as modern Wales.
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 2 жыл бұрын
@@aodhanmonaghan4664 How was Wales was independent and Sovereign between 1216 and 1546? They were subsumed into the English Crown in 1283 by Edward Longshanks. If we want to talk about Wales being independent and sovereign, I'd say we have to go back to Owain Fawr, Llewlyn's grandfather, who ruled Wales from like 1137 and 1170. His men nearly killed Henry II of England during an invasion one time, and Henry never seriously tried to conquer Wales after that.
@aodhanmonaghan4664
@aodhanmonaghan4664 2 жыл бұрын
@@SRosenberg203 a merger of crowns also happened with Scotland too. Whilst the king of England controlled the new territory it was still legally separate. It's the same reason we don't say that the Electorate of Brunswick-Lüneburg was part of the Kingdom of Great Britain despite the fact they shared a monarch, and i suppose the nearest equivalent today could be how Australia is sovereign adjective yet shares a sovereign noun with the UK
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 2 жыл бұрын
*sad San Marino noises*
@snowdrop1414
@snowdrop1414 Жыл бұрын
Its like the heir to the iron throne is called prince or princess of dragonstone
@alexosae6044
@alexosae6044 Жыл бұрын
i see where GRRM got his ideas from
@MacbethofGondor
@MacbethofGondor 2 жыл бұрын
great video, made me subscribe :)
@ashleyc7251
@ashleyc7251 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how Charles has been prince for so long as a plot to assassin him occured at his investment ceremony
@niweshlekhak9646
@niweshlekhak9646 2 жыл бұрын
He actually said more assassinations' attempts happened on Diana than him, when Diana went to watch a polo match for the first time after marriage in 1981, Diana said she was sent back by the secret service because they found someone pouring poison into a cup that was supposed to be used for her.
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't really a plot. Just some hotheads asking the leadership of the group "well, why don't we kill him?" To which the leader responded by slapping that suggestion down. Never went any further than that.
@niweshlekhak9646
@niweshlekhak9646 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavies3637 There is a video on youtube of bullets being fired at him. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9WRormjzt-yZWg.html
@peterallman8474
@peterallman8474 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavies3637 didn't someone blow themself up?
@shoutinghorse
@shoutinghorse 2 жыл бұрын
Worcester is pronounced 'Wooster' Don't feel bad, all Americans do the same, we have some strange spellings and pronunciations.
@just_radical
@just_radical 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe all Americans not from New England. For us it's Wuhstuh.
@sion8
@sion8 2 жыл бұрын
@@just_radical In Massachusetts, maybe… but southern New England is mostly Rhotic.
@just_radical
@just_radical 2 жыл бұрын
@@sion8 I'm from Connecticut my friend. Never heard it said anything but Wuhstuh or Wuhstur
@sa35992
@sa35992 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from New York, and I lived in Worcester, Mass for a while, I heard a lot of wooster and wuhstah, depending on where you came from, and how thick your accent was
@sion8
@sion8 2 жыл бұрын
@@just_radical I live in CT, so if anything I'd heard “wuhs-tur”. Because ⟨R⟩ is pronounced, hence rhotic.
@p.g.j6323
@p.g.j6323 Жыл бұрын
Lovely presentation. Thanks. Paul Glyndwr Jones..just a bit welsh
@christophermallory3400
@christophermallory3400 2 жыл бұрын
I heard wales is where the real British lives. Every other place in England was invaded.
@AidenThisWay
@AidenThisWay 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but if you go back far enough no one is truly “British”
@christophermallory3400
@christophermallory3400 2 жыл бұрын
@@AidenThisWay Indeed, for hundreds of years the ppl in England spoke French. Only the peasants spoke English
@MissBabalu102
@MissBabalu102 Жыл бұрын
How far back in time? 3000 years ago? and I wonder how different they were back then? The Celts originated around Switzerland and spread out.
@truthforall1303
@truthforall1303 Жыл бұрын
Really informative. I only have a comment to make that I know your voice is American but sorry to say you didn’t pronounce some words correctly but I understand our language isn’t that easy. Thank you so much for your video 👍
@jcruby2328
@jcruby2328 Жыл бұрын
Well, British people don't actually pronounce words correctly either. In fact you make more mispronunciations imo.
@paulwhitston5784
@paulwhitston5784 Жыл бұрын
@@jcruby2328 such as?
@jcruby2328
@jcruby2328 Жыл бұрын
@@paulwhitston5784 such as water, wootah as you say, lol
@paulwhitston5784
@paulwhitston5784 Жыл бұрын
@@jcruby2328 can’t say I’ve ever in my life heard it pronounced anything like that. To highlight the “a” clearer we tend to pronounce it as if there’s an “r” directly after it but it’s not verbalised. I’ve only ever heard it pronounced like the word “porter” Whenever I’ve heard an American pronounce it, it sounds more as if the “t” is replaced with a “d” (or more like a “dt”) with variations on the “a” depending on region. Worcester’s always intrigued me regarding the American take on it. And Gloucester.
@jcruby2328
@jcruby2328 Жыл бұрын
@@paulwhitston5784 Brits say wootah. Pronounces a like O. And you want to tell me that's the way to pronounce it?
@benhunt4539
@benhunt4539 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jeanremy5036
@jeanremy5036 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@Valhalla88888
@Valhalla88888 2 жыл бұрын
Wales is not even represented in 🇬🇧 Union Jack
@jamesmarshall1979
@jamesmarshall1979 2 жыл бұрын
Dont you mean Union Flag. Its only a jack if flown on naval ship
@jeromeschmitt3191
@jeromeschmitt3191 2 жыл бұрын
1960 was in the 20th Century, NOT the 19th
@faithestayan5051
@faithestayan5051 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mariambajelidze8515
@mariambajelidze8515 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🌹
@Stand663
@Stand663 2 жыл бұрын
What the video doesn’t mention is Welsh king’s became English royalty through marriage not conquest and subsequently went onto to rule Britain, France and Ireland.
@circularcommunitiescymru9991
@circularcommunitiescymru9991 Жыл бұрын
..and they became English. Tudors betrayed Wales.
@Stand663
@Stand663 Жыл бұрын
@@circularcommunitiescymru9991 The dynasty all ended in the reign of Elizabeth I. By that time they made England the most powerful nation in the world.
@YolandaMReyes
@YolandaMReyes Жыл бұрын
King Charles III Rest In Peace Queen Elizabeth II
@Chris_PerthWA
@Chris_PerthWA Жыл бұрын
Outstanding
@Cinnn
@Cinnn Жыл бұрын
Owain is the ancient Owen, its pronounced the same, and as an Englishman Worcester is literally pronounced "wuster" :)
@tinfoilbottle5943
@tinfoilbottle5943 11 ай бұрын
No. In welsh Owain in pronounced “Ohw-eye-n”
@sebastianm6600
@sebastianm6600 2 жыл бұрын
The 1960s are not in the 19th Century… I would also revise the sentence about Owain Gwynedd not using the title of Prince or Wales “during his lifetime”, since it would be rather difficult for him to use this title after his lifetime…
@alvinsanidad
@alvinsanidad Жыл бұрын
I might have missed something, so why was prince of wales the 1st in line or successor of the throne?. Is there a part 2 of this video?
@aineraffertyart
@aineraffertyart Жыл бұрын
0:48 yayyy we finally got a mention lol 😂 Belfast is best but I’m biased lol
@poladelarosa8399
@poladelarosa8399 2 жыл бұрын
20th century, not 19th. For example, 1960 was in the 20th century; similarly, 2020 was in the 21st century. Hope this helps. Thanks for the lesson.
@putraduha3176
@putraduha3176 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the movement started in victorian age
@dylanmurphy9389
@dylanmurphy9389 Жыл бұрын
I learnt this when I was 5
@FerdinandCesarano
@FerdinandCesarano 2 жыл бұрын
6:32 - Note that the word "primer", when referring to a rundown of basic information, is pronounced with the vowel in the word "prim". It is only when referring to an initial coat of paint that "primer" is pronounced with the vowel in "prime".
@tedlassagne8785
@tedlassagne8785 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's a shame to hear this mispronounced so much, especially when we all learned to read from primers (prim'-ers). It's one of a long list of heteronyms we have to put up with in the English language.
@nicholascarrington7912
@nicholascarrington7912 Жыл бұрын
I know in U.S English, it's pronounced as 'primmer'. I'm British and I've never said it that way. It's the same as a coat of paint.
@paulfranklin8636
@paulfranklin8636 Жыл бұрын
Let me guess...English isn't your 1st language and you've been taught "American" rather than English....see I grew up in a City called Birmingham, you may have heard of it, right in the middle of England, and I can assure you that no English person would ever pronounce it in the way you so idiotically suggest...it's Primer as in Prime Minister, or Paint Primer...becuase you half-witted clown its root is that of being FIRST or Prime. Now run along and keep your useless misinformation to yourself
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