Same, I never called myself a izone fan since I only really knew abt Sakura. But when I was younger panorama, fiesta, and la vie en rose were my go to songs. Idk wut was going on in 14 year old me's mind, but I literally thought iz*one was peak kpop. But, even though I felt all of that, I never really got to know the members. Now, I kinda know some of them because of le serrafim, and ive(my fav groups rn), but I still feel like I'm lying when I call myself an izone fan

Same, I couldn't get into IZ-ONE at all because their vocals were so high-pitched and I disliked it a lot. When IVE debuted, I was pleasantly surprised by Wonyoung's deeper voice. She has a very sweet tone, and that made me question if the awfully high-pitched singing in IZ-ONE was a stylistic choice or not.

I agree!

oh I avoided them until recently 😭 I didn't engage with any of them at all until Yena debuted solo, and I didn't even know she was from IZ*ONE at first lmao I really wish Kep1er could have been given higher quality content though the girls deserve better

I feel the same way about the success of the various former IZ*ONE members' post-IZ*ONE projects showing that their disbandment was ultimately for the best. IZ*ONE was an impossible act to follow and Kep1er was never set up for success. I think that Kep1er's members will go on to be far more successful after redebuting with other rookie groups that are more tailored to their unique charms.

@@nublock5000 hopefully! They're very talented and seem sweet as well. It would be a shame if they never found genuine success

@@nayeonchantix Oh here's a fun hypothetical... Let's say that, post-disbandment, three members of Kep1er are able to redebut with other groups that go on to be highly successful. Which three do you think it would be? I know my answers but I'll let you drop yours first.

@@nublock5000 that's a great question but also a hard one. Like I have too many thoughts to really organize in a comment. It'd be an interesting video topic, but I feel like it would be wrong to make one without asking for permission to uae it first 😅 I totally understand if you would just prefer a very long comment though

thank you 💚

I already stanned limelight since debut, but I didn't know they would join in. Glad to hear that though :))

same 😅

It very great i finish it 😊

Or german for like abracadabra. Magic word. You hear it a lot in kids fairytales and stories. It's fun an whimsical

Oh wow I'm German and never realised it's not a word in English?? It always made sense to me lol

@@suzyocean7392 yea same 😂

^ co-signing the european confusion as a finnish person, i had no idea it was a nonsensical phrase for most people.

I was inspired lmao 😭 I thought I'd take my time but nah

legendary

I love Lion Tamer I'm with you

@@nayeonchantix let's grab the torches and go for WakeOne

thank god su ruiqi whiny ass didn't make it. yujin shouldn't have made it but idk if bora shouldn't neither if we gonna be honnest. btw the cast should have been 50kr 50 foreigners regardless of china/japan exactly like boys planet cuz why in first place the gp999 cast is full of fillers like that

Are you serious? You are still debating who should be in the final lineup of Kep1er? After watching Bora and how she was on Queendom Puzzle, is Bora fitted to be the leader over anyone else? What do you people have against Yujin? Also the real problem should be the bias that the company show to a few members of the group while ignoring the rest of the group most of the time, as well as the lack of overall direction and effort that Wakeone put on Kep1er that should be the main issue instead of mentioning so and so should be in the group. Also, it should be mentioned that Bora did not receive enough votes from the public, which is why she did not make the final lineup of various survival shows that she joined.

@@bernardsih5987 both bora and yujin suck, only mashiro is leader material

bahorse fault tbh

cough cough hikaru

Bahiyyih akages mostly lol

@@yummyeonBahiyyih***

@@spoiledddbrattt bahorsie ? bahihorse ?

I agree! I like most of these songs if not all of them, but I still think some of them are poorly written.

Also after IOI the groups joined by IOI members are not successful either. DIA, WJSN, Pristine, Gugudan, and Wekiweki were all niche. Somi became popular only after she joined YG. But IVE and Le Sserafim are as popular as IZONE

IOI was hugely successful while they were active, it's just post-IOI groups that did badly

wanna one floppies, IOI queenies destroy each single one of these tank ass group you mentionned + charted higher + still more relevant that each one of these fads despite being pre kpop bloom

@@manofsesame3024 hell yeah no one wanted to support diarrheah , we just sold nothing, pristank, nugudan and fuckass weki meki lmaooo we just want the queens IOI or nothing shall we do charity ??? boycott deserved weki meki disband next mark my words, and btw miss somi was literally the most popular itzy member before she departed like tell me you joined kpop during covid without telling me kind of answer, chungha didn't gagged the whole kpop just to be ignored to floppass wanna one, sejeong isn't the most popular actress for nothing and jieqiong the most famous ex kpop idol in china for nothing, le sserafim is a tank (eunchae fault if we are real) and survive just bc they're from hybe, and ive is carried solely by WONYOUNG queenie, she's more famous than her group and that's ok get over it

IOI were active for a very short time. They were very popular. Wanna One were huge when they were active, as were IZ*ONE. X1 appeared to be about to be huge. Their debut, Flash, was really successful. But they disbanded so we don't know what would've happened had it not been for the vote rigging scandal. Kep1er, for me, got derailed by appearing on Queendom. They had only just debuted. They are a temporary group. So they didn't have a large back catalogue to use. Going on another survival show fresh off GP999 is a baffling choice, as it had to be draining for the members to do these shows back to back. As a temporary group, the time on Queendom could have been used to cement the group so much better, in other ways. With their own group content. It just seems like a waste of time, especially so early on. I don't think it would have been a good idea at all. They should have been working on themselves as a group. ZB1 have been sweeping the award shows. I'm really happy for them, I was really into Boys Planet. I was happy that some of the tactics ("evil editing") during the show didn't get their desired result. I saw people falling for it, sure. But I also saw people being vigilant about it, and calling it out. I hope the best for them. I think it's too soon to judge how successful ZB1 are or will be. X1 were failed due to the vote manipulation scandal. Kep1er haven't been handled well. I think we need hindsight to truly evaluate things. But there's definitely things that can be called out now. For me Queendom is the main issue. But I have seen other people who were unhappy with a lack of direction or perceived vague, changing concept. Some people think Kep1er were a trial run of sorts after Produce. I can understand why they would come to that conclusion. But I'm not sure about that myself.

@fny-09kpop-rg3zq I don't see how that is a problem unless those stans hate on other members. And I know music is subjective but 90% of Kepler songs are literally awful in my opinion

@@dreamcatchernewjeansstan They DO hate on other members. The toxicity of Kep1er's solo stans is really off-putting, and it's made worse with uneven screen time/line distribution. As for their discography, I won't say it's bad since people have different music taste. Rather, it's the inconsistency that makes it difficult to get into the group's music. Like, I enjoyed "Up!" a lot and became very interested in Kep1er. But they released "We Fresh" a few months afterwards, and it killed my excitement for the group 😭

@@foresttrail6619 Up was literally a masterpiece. Up, MVSK and Giddy are the only songs I really enjoy from them

Have you listen to their b-side ?​@@dreamcatchernewjeansstan

they quite literally have one of the best, they just are generic like a lot of popular groups rn…