That’s because they’re not doing the job they were supposed to do. If they weren’t so worried of low stocks, they wouldn’t have such childish squabbles.

😂 True

They are just greedy, tbh they need better vocal coaches.

@@kanmanivn1475 you’re right about that. vocals are prime applications in any vocational field.

Then HYBE will mistreat and just waste all those talented artist

Each HYBE artists are unique and never look the same that's the best thing unlike other major companies who focuses on imposing the company's colour on them. Each HYBE artists have different kinds of music to them. So they have different musical styles and directions.

@@AP-fi2di Dudee you have to accept that SM artists have the best vocals ofc HYBE has its own gems. Yes HYBE artists are different too but as explained in the video SM and HYBE are two different companies with different styles, different auras. If HYBE completely takes over SM they will lose that vibe. I personally feel like HYBES own group not the conquered companies groups have more a bright vibe not always but yeah while SM is more of two baddies one porshe vibes🥰😅.Every comapany has there own concept that they would never abandon same goes for HYBE even if they do provide more freedom to their artists.

i mostly stan hybe groups but i have to agree with this

​@creamy_lilies hybe is basically a provider not more, look even bts and txt who are under the same agency have different musical styles let alone idoles who are under different agencies , yall always complain about sm not protect your idoles and not give them come back and not treat them well, so hear you go hybe can do all of this for them while keeping their musical identity as how it is , hybe is just investing on the groups

Owning 15% of a company's shares is not the same as owning the company it's a completely different story. Most likely nothing will change at SM, the only thing that could be happening is crosspromotion between Hybe and SM idols

Shut up.

@@BeMyArt bro but she's only saying truth don't you see lessrafim encore stage.

All hybe artist can sing. All labels under hybe work independently. They are in charge of their own artists. Hybe supplies resources, financial backing and music distribution. Its is the decisions of the labels hiw they use it.

@@nicoleloss7987 i can count all hybe idols who are good vocalists on one hand. I think youre talking about a different hybe man

What nonsense. Pledis entertainment, koz entertainment artist didn't traine under hybe. And half of hybe artist are ex yg,jyp and sm.

its not about hybe but its about lee soo man leaving the company

@neoculttech777 Taemin has been complaining about SM for YEARS, before LSM left. I still remember how upset he was when SM leaked his song Criminal and then did NOTHING to promote his Comeback.

Hopeful Taemin goes to HYBE once he leaves SM. He will see his former coworkers at SM once HYBE eventually buys SM down the road.

tbh taemin going to HYBE would be amazing to his career, that IF they give him artistic freedom which I believe they would considering he's an amazing artist. I really would love to see more of him with better promotions and better management.

Almost all artists always complain, but until recently few decided to leave. That LSM was selling his shares and the potential buyers for them were known for quite some time, so that may well have been the last straw. And remember that LSM's departure as CEO was also already some time ago. I think many idols were more loyal to him as a person than to the company as a whole.

Preach. Hybe only has shares. They have no involvement in sm entertainment.

Yes and no. Shareholders get to vote on major decisions. The more shares you have, the more influence your vote has. Shareholders could easily vote for things that will make major changes in how SM operates.

@@Michelle-qs2tcyep. HYBE is positioning itself to eventually buy/takeover the company outright down the road. The goal of HYBE is to become a giant label like Sony Music, Warner music, etc. that’s why they bought an American hip hop company and country music label. SM really is just something they need to take care of as they look at during their path towards the big picture.

Btw, I hope Taemin goes to HYBE if he does leave SM😊

Me too!​@@inquisitvem6723

Same here

exactly

Same!!

Honestly, if you weren't affiliated with a big K-pop company, would you know him? If it weren't for an idol company, most of them would be difficult to succeed even if they debuted as individual artists. Companies invest a lot of money to create artists, and as a result, there are idols you know now. Some companies abuse them as bad contracts, but these days, there are many that don't

Frl😭 like you’re here for the idols not the ppl who manage/own them.

There don’t know how kakao is but sentiment in thier heart won’t let them see they just focus on hating hybe

Preach

Well.. their excuse is thqt kakao isnt an entertainment company.. hahahaha thats why they hate hybe buying shares of sm haha.. they hate hybe monopoly but they love kakao monopoly in another industry.. lmao

​@@DdDd-li7mmhybe idols awful vocalists + i dont like how they choose trainees / idols. most of them mid

Hybe artist can sing. Hybe is not a monopoly. Kakao is a monopoly. Kakao owns dozens of music labels.

It's fault sm Lee will sell for SM . !!! Please stay same SM forever

@@sassydog2782 Can you repeat please!

Hybe is not buying sm entertainment. Kakao owns sm entertainment. This just has to do with their business agreement.

@@nicoleloss7987at least not for now.

​@@nicoleloss7987Kakao is the biggest shareholder but still not the major shareholder.still making decisions in SM is still difficult

our best vocalist is going to be chaewon if hybe buys whatever they are from sm 😭🙏

@@chaettos fr even normal or slightly bad vocalists will be called "legends" cuz there isn't any better ones 💀. The standard WILL be too low

Preach.

yea my only concern is kakao trying to take over, hybe is still a baby in the industry, just a bigger baby

theres rumors they might try to buy again

And it turns out KaKao doesn't want SM anymore with the music idols, you know I would think SM would wants Hybe take some share of their stocks Instead KAKAO who is a Chinese Company who only cares about their own, where Hybe has mostly Korean Artist, and should SM be mad at their former Manger Lee SooMan whatever that Guy name is who was the Manager of SM that sold some of SM stocks shares to Hybe Corps anyway. Translate to Korean (Translated by Google)

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe just has shares. Please learn the difference

Same! I hope KQ never is acquired by HYBE...

Hybe has no interest in buying anymore kpop idols. They plan to expand in Japan America and Latin America

Their concept of taking the k out of kpop is "doing business" at it's worst.

Except bang pd, hybe all Shareholders are already rich businessmen for a long time. Obviously hybe will make big business. In South Korea there is a rule that chaebol only invests in one particular industry. Like Samsung only in technical gadgets like mobile, laptop n etc. Samsung can't start their own entertainment company. that's why these big people buy shares of these companies. The politician also buys shares. Hybe shares also buy by some government related companies in SK. Hybe has full government support. Also many Western rich people also are shareholders of hybe. So hybe also has Full support in western market.Obviously hybe will make more as compared to others.

@@Bumblebee_diuu_kpop You need more than just money to make a good product, esp in the creative sector. Hybe didn't create any successful artists except BTS, which they themselves said was luck, TXT doesn't compare, they just bought everything else. Buying products is not a business strategy, that's just investing, so is buying shares.

@@aligensa Actually my comment is regarding original comments. She said 'hybe doing business like nobody else" when you have support from the government and western market obviously you'll make big business. BTS both luck and hardwork. Txt is not like BTS but they have good singing and dancing talent. I stan both bts and svt. If u watch svt shows. Many times they say pledis instead of hybe. If anything goes wrong in the future. Pledis will immediately separate from hybe.svt and tws both pledis group good in vocal, dance. The same bang pd holds the largest share in hybe. He'll also take out TXT and BTS from hybe. Small subsidiaries like source music,ador and belift will suffer.

Fr man kakao already is a monopoly company and no one cares

👍 agree

Agree more

No. More like google

You guys are not comprehending the big picture. The goal of HYBE is to become a giant label like Sony Music, Warner music, etc. that’s why they bought an American hip hop company and country music label. SM is just a small step in their path

@@inquisitvem6723 you probably want to look up the unethical and vial things Sony and Warner music do to their employees, musicians and executives it's all about POWER AND GREED. I saw this coming when Hybe bought Vlive and made it into some exclusive thing and now with the "let's take the K out of Kpop" this clearly an attempt at a hostile takeover.

@@likhwezititus I know all that. I’m just saying the goal of HYBE is to become the biggest music label in the world. Ironically, SM was owning the kpop industry and mistreating their artists well before YG and JYP came, but it was all under wraps for a long time.

@@likhwezititus sure. and exactly how much of SM are they buying?

Fr and no one raises an eye lid now because its hybe it’s apparently a problem? Not saying hybe is a monopoly but its like yk

i do not see the concern atm. financial shareholder has nothing to do with company management, unless HYBE is looking to buy more than 50% of the shares. only THEN can we have speculations about the future. as of right now? kids complaining about less than 20% makes them look silly. besides even if they do take over, SM is so big I doubt they could do a complete makeover. the kids took it too far north. im unsurprised by the amount of uneducated people who will jump to conclusions without thinking. besids, no one complained when other companies get divisions. so why HYBE? must be something bigger going on.

Right? The entire country lends itself to monopolies lol. HYBE is just following the game. But they'll always have to contend with Kakao and CJ Group who have their hands in almost every company. Won't be that easy.

@@seaweed428Korea has a mandatory offer at 25% so as long as HYBE stays under that should be fine. If they do hit that threshold they'll be forced to make a tender offer. (The FSC amended their rules in 2023 and came into effect this year.)

It's not inevitable, because the market isn't limited to SK, and the monopolisation only creates a boost in the short term but limits the potential in the long term. Media companies need a minimum size to be viable, so ologopolies are the norm and healthy, but monopolies are not, esp not in a sector that needs creativity per definition.

OMG your statement is so true i could've built you a statue. SM employees, K netizens are in their feelings because most probably they didn't think an unknow Bang PD and a group of 7 boys would one day eat on the same table with them.

@@amluckytohave8066 exactly! And it’s eating them up ALIVE

SM used to own the industry for years before YG and JYP came along. People forget to mention that.

Oligopolies are normal and healthy in the media industry because it takes a minimum size to be viable, but monopolies are not, especially not in industries that require creativity per definition. A clear example was the US film industry: the studio system was regarded as too monopolised mostly due to vertical integration, but getting rid of oligopolies was not possible.

JYP won't be sold because even if itzy and nmixx are losing their popularity, Skz is gaining more popularity. Twice is still popular and they have a large fanbase.

coz YG is crumbling too after big bang n Blackpink left the company ...

Sort of. Taemin has now the option to join HYBE now if he leaves SM😂

not to mention, their idols schedule mangement can be WORST than SM sometimes in 1 hand we have TXT, ENHYPEN and SEVENTEEN and their overworking schedule about 3 YEARS NON-STOP causing harm to both their physical and mental health on the other, fromis_9, BOYNEXTDOOR and &TEAM who aren't promoted properly and deserve to be hyped as much as TWF, LESSERAFIM, NEWJEANS, etc...

Stop talking nonsense. Hybe is a multilabel corporation. All labels under hybe work independently. This just shows you have no clue how hybe works. Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, financial backing and music distribution for each label. All labels are responsible for their own artists mangerment, promots, scheduling, creative, and music production. Please do research.

I recall tripleS...I think it was evolution was selling for like 200. Which is truly absurd. The promoter then had to cancel it. Hybe won't have that issue, but I think companies are unrealistic in this sense.

You guys are not comprehending the big picture. The goal of HYBE is to become a giant label like Sony Music, Warner music, etc. that’s why they bought an American hip hop company and country music label.

@@supercoolcakes8952la la la la la la…

Same! I never want them to become part of HYBE ...

Hybe doesn't want them. Hybe has no plans to expand in Korea. They will expand in Japan America and Latin America

Money is power, so that's also a form of influence. And HYBE's strategy of taking the "k out of kpop" is the opposite of diversity, but involves making everything more similar to what is currently in the American charts.

Kakao owns sm entertainment

Yeah, BUT (a big but) even though Hybe has an immense quantity of resources it's a dirty play by Hybe as SM did with Woollim Ent. When was acquired in the early 2010 years (I don't remember the year exactly), What Hybe want's to do it's to make shade to SM just to focus on their own company (As SM did with Infinite when they were in Woollim). Lee SooMan it's guilty of this situation but also the SM stockholders, because instead of dialogue with SooMan and make a pacific negotiation (and don't tell me that they couldn't, when you are on business you have to know how to negotiate) and then proceed to any action. But what stakeholders and the CEO of SM did (Yeah Lee SooMan it's not the CEO) were "making" actions and selling them to grab more stockholders underwater, without telling to SooMan, and devaluating his actions. So, SooMan (in revenge) made that sale of his actions to HYBE. That's the reason of the anger, Although that was Lee SooMan the one that was selling his actions, Hybe didn't check the reasons (and I remember that Hybe also prolly could get theirselves in trouble by the way they bought the actions) But speaking about Image, sound, and concepts. The people are angry because most of the sounds of Hybe labels are feeling pretty similar (or the same) and they are relying in their popularity instead of giving opportunity to their artists to shine. I dunno if I explained well. And if I have a mistake, please forgive me, Imma lil bit rusty on English, it's not my first language. Greetings!

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe only has shares

Hybe is not buying sm entertainment. Kakao owns sm entertainment. This just has to do with a business agreement they have nothing else

no different than when SM owned the industry till YG and JYP came along.

oh my goshr so spookyy

I fear tbh

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe is not involved with anything. They just own shares .

This show you understand nothing. Hybe has no say over gfriend. Gfriend contract was with source music. You really need to stop believing rumors and do research

nothing will change, don't worry

Finally!!! Thanks for clarifying this I was kinda confused wi

I was asking myself does hybe have more shares than kakao now because I mean the way people are acting like hybe now owns the whole of sm is crazy

It because these hate hybe. Hybe shares are from their business agreement with lee soo man. Hybe made a deal with kakao and sm entertainment artist to use weverse.

Hybe has no interest in sm entertainment. Hybe is expanding in. Japan, America and Latin America. Not Korea

The talent they develop did you help them to develop it bts, txt if they decide to operate as a business then that’s is business stop adding your insecurities here

LOL ~ BTS is the PROOF of their success!!!!

They bought BTS. They didn't do a thing to develop them. @@rebeccaavoca9143

Sm entertainment is owned by kakao. Hybe only has shares.

The goal of HYBE is to become a giant label like Sony Music, Warner music, etc. that’s why they bought an American hip hop company and country music label.

Yeah! And that's the problem here.@@inquisitvem6723

Ur worrying hybe being monopoly... but ur not worrying kakao doing the same lmao

I'm also worried about that but kakao is already very big in the industry@@DdDd-li7mm

@@DdDd-li7mm kakao isnt a kpop company and they care way more for their employers than hybe does.

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe only has shares. No involvement in sm entertainment. So relax

​don't you realize........even HYBE succussed take over SM...their NOT going to change SM music style or the group at all....its business related...

LOL

1) You can argue with success, because sadly, popular success often has little to do with quality, and most of the acts you mentioned were just bought and not even created and nurtured by HYBE. 2) If Kakao will sell its shares of SM, then Hybe is likely to buy as many of those as it can, and that is cause for concern both in general because monopollisation is always bad, esp in an industry that requires creativity by definition, and in this case in particular because Hybe's strategy to take the "k out of k pop" is literally about sameness. 3) The artists who left only left for their solo work, SM still has all of their groups.

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe only has shares from lee soo man deal. Sm entertainment artist use weverse. Hybe has no involvement with sm entertainment. Hybe has already stated they are expanding in Japan America and Latin America. They have no interest in buying any other kpop labels.

@@nicoleloss7987 Don't understand what your point is exactly.

Lol they ain’t worried they should be scared

@@goodyoflife i dnt know what thyr thinking.. its as if kakao is not doing sumthing hahahahaha

What wrong kakao is doing

@@Bidhibeingreal same question what wrong hybe is doing?

Correct

Not necessarily. The more shares you have, the stronger voting power you have when shareholder meetings take place. They can change on how SM operates its business. For now though, HYBE is just positioning itself for a takeover of SM down the road .The goal of HYBE is to become a giant label like Sony Music, Warner music, etc. that’s why they bought an American hip hop company and country music label.

Hybe already stated that they will expand in Japan America and Latin. Not Korea. Hybe is not buying any kpop labels.

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe shares are from lee soo man deal. Sm entertainment use weverse. Hybe has 6 labels in Korea. They don't plan on buying anymore kpop labels. Hybe already stated that they will expand on a international scale in Japan America and Latin America.

You're comparing a messenger app to a music label that has the powers to affect other's careers

That’s not funny at all SM and Hybe artists are both mistreated

@@likhwezititusno, bc they have kakao pay, kakao taxi, and a bunch of kakao services too.

​@@likhwezititusgirl u dumb? Kakao is the majority shareholder, that means they have the right to make the decisions. So yes they do affect artists.

Google is free, search the power of kakao​, atleast know that kakao isnt just msger app lol😂 @@likhwezititus

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe only has shares

Correct

Hybe doesn't even want sm entertainment. Hybe has shares from lee soo man business deal. Sm entertainment artist use weverse . Hybe already stated that they will expand internationally.

@@nicoleloss7987 did I say they want sm in the video admin says that sm fans are worried that hybe maybe buy sm so if someone who has no idea maybe got they from my comment that even hybe want to buy sm they can't control the functions stop teaching me things I am very interested in stock marketing and have very wide knowledge of k-pop

It because they hate hybe. Hybe is expanding international. Not in Korea. Hybe only owns 6 labels in Korea.

y2k sound uniform looks those were already a thing in kpop

its just newjeans made it trend again

Hybe only has shares. Kakao owns sm entertainment

I agree

Wow. Hybe is not buying sm entertainment. They only have shares . It means nothing. Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe is expanding in Japan America and Latin America. No different then any other business. Investors want growth . And return on their investments.

Kakao is also monopoly they own many things in Korea

This is from their original business agreement.

I hope that the idols have good management under hybe but the vocals sm coach have it should not be removed

But I thought you people said hybe let their companies manage itself without interfering with their management, so tell me how is hybe take over going to change sm Management when they don't interfere I'm really curious because what you people are saying is not making sense to me

Hybe is a multilabel corporation .hybe only supplies resources, financial backing and music distribution for each label. All labels under hybe work independently. All labels under hybe are responsible for their own artists mangerment, promots, scheduling, creative and music production.

nothing will change ...

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe only has shares no involvement in sm entertainment

There know nothing well i don’t blame thier little heart

Fans should support artists. Leave business to adults.

Hybe only has shares from lee soo man original business agreement. Kakao owns sm entertainment. Sm entertainment artist use weverse.

Hybe is expanding in Japan America and Latin America.

Thank you. These people understand nothing.

Yes they are

Yes.

Hybe is not buying sm. Kakao owns sm entertainment. This is just part of their business agreement.

Lesserafim and newjeans vocals needs so much improvement

​@@btsokok8519 bro newjeans are average good vocalist, iu literally liked hyeins vocals sm she featured her in her latest album

@@peachyhanni but their Mr removed vocals are mostly mute

Hybe has vocals coaches.

And they r complain8ng hybe being monopoly.. funny thing indeed

Without Kakao up snd running....S.Korea comes to a stand still....lol....yet they are really worried abut Hybe...lol....

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Hybe only has shares. No involvement

@@nicoleloss7987 if ever

Kakao owns sm entertainment. Sm entertainment artist use weverse as part of the deal. Hybe has no interest in buying any other kpop labels. They are expanding in Japan America and Latin America.