What Happened? Covid happened then Military Enlistment happened

The fact that their debut was jopping is kinda funny

I think one of the biggest reason that they can't continue touring is because of COVID. But I really enjoyed superM, they made me realize how great SM groups are an individual them is. And they had great time together

I mean it could have worked, if only they had been more consistent. I get they were all in existing groups but they needed to make time for SuperM too. They just kept overloading the previous groups with comebacks

For a SMTown artists stan like me, SuperM and GOT the Beat were dreams-come-true. I still love these groups a lot, but i understand that they are busy so anytime SuperM and GOT the Beat have a comeback, i'll treat them like precious collabs.

So my personal belief is that Taemin was so sad with all of Shinee in the army that SM made SuperM to keep him from getting too lonely. :)

"Can't Stand the Rain" and the performance was fantastic.

It was SuperM who got me and my friends into k-pop and we start to explore the groups they come from. We are from Europe and still into k-pop.

I really don't see anything wrong with SuperM's concept and songs. The songs are catchy and have the same vibe as Exo, Nct and SHINee's songs. The concept makes sense for the SMEU lore. I really don't understand people's obsession of hating on the group for no reason when it offers more people to discover 3-4 groups at the same time.

SuperM was 👌 I will not back down from it. If SM just committed to it fully and didn't use it as a way to promote projects...

Did you say Tiger Inside was kinda eh?! That’s wild. It’s the best song on that album, imo.

Does anyone remember how insane it was that SM Entertainment actually did this? Like, they put on a whole spectacle for SuperM's debut and looking back on it I miss how K-pop companies would do crazy stuff like this 😅

I actually enjoyed SuperM but u wish they were more consistent with them. Same with GOT the Beat if they can find amazing concepts for them and make them unique in their own way then both groups would be unstoppable.

Waking up at 3am to watch jopping for the first time was a religious experience considering my ults were exo and nct at the time

I saw Super M in Chicago and it was FANTASTIC!

SuperM is my favourite group after exo. I definitely enjoyed their music. As for their success, it's SM's fault in my opinion. SM should have made a better plan for them and keep the comeback consistent. I think the idea of super group is actually great. If Collab between artists is acceptable, it can work the same way. Getting talented artists like SuperM members in one group is insane. If one doesn't like their music, it's the listener's taste of music, not the artist's lackings. My journey with SuperM has been great and I'm still hoping they somehow make a comeback.

SuperM got me into kpop, and from there i looked into all of their respective groups! i owe a lot to this crazy idea lol

After watching the video I don't see why this was a dumb idea, nor was it unsuccessful. They didn't need to support the investment of Beyond Live by themselves, because it could be used by other groups. And since it brought attention to the platform internationally such a "global" group was the best way to get it started.

unfortunate that they debuted right before a lot of the members' military era but if only they had continued with some short EPs with 4-5 of the guys to fill the time

I thought JOPPING was 🔥. Seeing them perform live was phenomenal.

It isn't only Lucas now, but Baekhyun left SM and Taemin is scheduled to leave too, so I think this marks SuperM's official end. Also enlistment is ongoing, Kai is in the military, Taeyong will go soon. The project could've worked better if they had a system like NCT, so with the possibility to add new members to cover for those on hiatus or those who left. Also it seems they were highly overworked, because they never slowed down their group/solo activities and it seems they haven't earned much from it. It could've been a cool idea, but it was executed really bad.

super m is iconic really

SuperM was so great, I’m glad I saw them on tour❤ as a big EXO-L, being able to finally see at least Kai & Baekhyun made me so freaking happy. Honestly everyone in SuperM has such amazing talent and seeing them come together was an incredible experience. Even tho I was unsure of the group at first, they did well❤❤❤❤

It sucks that their music was actually SOOOO good like??? I listen to their songs and something about already proven artists being at their fullest is just amazing. SO glad I saw them live on their tour!

Omg I loved SuperM! It was my way back to Taemin and SHINee. Very fond memories with these fellas. Whether they return or not, I'll always be happy I got to see Taemin in a different setting. They were great!

No Manners is iconic and Mark's verse of Jopping was iconic too even though the main line of that song is... um... yeah. BY THE WAY 2020 WAS AN INCREDIBLE YEAR FOR KPOP?! Stray Kids Gods Menu & Back Door, NCT Kick It & Make a Wish, Itzy Wannabe, Red Velvet Psycho, BTS On and Dynamite. And more

SuperM was a genius idea only if the original groups weren’t mistreated like slaves🤷‍♀️ especially EXO. Exo-l couldn’t whole heartedly supported them knowing how badly Exo is treated snd how both Baekhyun and Kai was there as cash cow. I am obviously speaking as Exo-l, so don't know how Nct and Shinee fan felt.

SM really has not been the same without lsm... its pretty sad to me :(

Super M was the last concert I saw before the pandemic started. I really enjoyed their group and wish they were more consistent and with GOT too 😢

"No Manners" such a bop.

They lost they’re two main vocalist now what are they going to do 😭

To be honest, it was kind of obvious that SM was seeing what BTS was doing and achieving and definitely was trying to ride off of that but, it was never gonna work that way since it really wasn't grabbing the attention of those OUTSIDE of kpop's fanbases... Instead, they were just adding onto more of the 'K-pop wave' that was happening at the time. It was clear though that the general public just couldn't find a fascination as they made it a little TOO OBVIOUS that they were scoring for more than just the K-pop audience. The difference between what BTS was doing was that BTS scored success at home before they did globally. SuperM jumped in and went beyond, just not in a way that was appealing or natural I guess you could say?

am like honored to exist when they debuted.

It just blows my mind how their debut album was so good but then “Jopping” was the lead track 🤦🏽‍♀️ And the worst part was that the song could’ve been good if they just didn’t use the ridiculous phrase “jopping”. It could’ve easily been a line like, “when we step on the stage, we get it poppin”…something…ANYTHING other than “Jopping” 🥴

I WILL MISS THIS GROUP

Getting to see them all on one stage was FANTASTIC.

Look, Kpoppers have such a short memory and are so critical. The SuperM project was very good, but it came about under unfortunate circumstances, and I mean COVID. However, SuperM was a pioneer in doing a stream concert during the pandemic, when there was nothing in that format in Kpop until then. And what happened next? The rest of the companies did it too. The world economy was unstable, there were risks of illness, there were many changes and things to try, many contracts and tour opportunities had to be postponed. And something that should have grown gradually became intertwined with individual projects, with internal problems, etc. That's why SMCU seems so rushed with Aespa and other projects, they had to rethink everything. I think it could have been a very successful project in the long term, unfortunately between all these problems and SM's own poor management, and now that both Baek and Taemin decided to leave the company, the project will remain as another milestone in kpop history.

I don’t think it was dumb. Without SuperM I wouldn’t have listened to Nct or wayv and exo as much. I only liked Shinee and some exo

we need that SM video why lee soo-man left, and why it might be the downfall of SM. now artists are leaving and hype bought his shares. I think I need a whole breakdown. P.S love your videos

Super M has got many good songs but my absolutely fave song from them are Tiger Inside & One (monster & infinity)... they're in my playlist still ❣ Love the MVs too. I miss them.

I really wish SuperM was rotational that way they could comeback with different combos and work with the idols schedules

SuperM solidified my love for k-pop. Taemin’s Move, dance practice was what got me started. He’s mesmerizing. Sad that SuperM is no longer a thing. LOVED their b-sides. Their choreo was STUNNING to watch. The best of the best dancers together = 🔥 🔥 🔥

They have so many amazing songs. i miss them a lot.

What do you mean almost worked? It worked.

The only thing that went wrong with this group was the timing. Covid locked down the world FIVE MONTHS after they toured and by time the world opened back up, the eldest members started their military enlistments. If Covid hadn’t happened then they would have been fine. With Lucas coming back and Taeyong starting his military service soon (and the last one that will have to), we could have the full group back together and able to do another promotion in a year and a half.

I blame Covid and the military enlistments for the failure that happened with SuperM. I don't blame the idols because they did nothing wrong.

One of the crazy things for me was that while SuperM was debuting and going on the first leg of their tour, EXO was also in the middle of a huge Asian tour

I got to see these guys when they came to New York back in November 2019. Still the best concert ever I’ve been to! I was so happy that night.

I still wear the sweatshirt 'til this day.

Why is it dumb? They had an idea, like any other made it work than shit happened, life happened. Just because it didn't work doesn't mean it was a dumb idea. I loved all the members of SuperM and all of the members have amazing talent that people loved.

The group was dope. The concept of The Avengers of KPOP was lame. SuperM has the dopest singers, dancer, and visuals. Jopping for the first single was lame, but what do I know...

Oh my gosh thank you for this video. I miss watching your What Happened? videos please make more soon.

SuperM was an easy target for hate, but their music was fantastic, and they achieved a lot during their period of activity. There was rightful concern about the impact on the OG groups (with the exception of SHINee since activities literally weren't possible at the time), but a lot of people were being straight up psychotic for no reason, and I think it's crazy that there are some still trying to paint them as a flop group to this day when they really weren’t. I think the timing worked in their favor at first, and then Covid came out swinging followed immediately by enlistments, and it was clear there was no viable way to be consistent any longer without directly impacting the solo/OG group activities with all the adjustments having to be made as a result to keep up with all the changes Covid brought. I was excited when 2023 activities were teased, but obviously, a lot went down, and it was understandably scrapped. Still, though, being a part of the little no-name fandom during their active period and getting to see them live was a helluva ride!

You mentioned all their songs except One ( Monster and Infinity) even though you played it and can’t stand the rain lol. I loved your breakdown and inclusion of the promotions they did. Definitely subscribing

I was sure that Ten was part of superm

I miss them, at least I can complete my SuperM collection since they only have two albums out ig

It was a good idea and Capital Records did their part to make it happen. Fans were even coming around to it, the main problem was that S.M wasn't transparent with the american label or the fans. They kept announcing things and then not going through with it. S.m is just a very unorganized company and they are used to fans doing most of the heavy lifting in terms of promotion and whatnot. Korean fans didn't want this group but super m were on their way to developing a lot of western fans similar to bts. But unlike hybe there was little to no organization and honestly it's a miracle the company is still up and running. They are used to doing the bare minimum and having fans do most of the heavy lifting. They assume their groups are a gift to the world and it's not their job to promote or even try to maintain popularity. That's s.m's problem. The american person in charge of overseeing super m retired during the pandemic and with most of super m's promo being in asia, but being that they invested millions of the group even if they pulled back slightly it shouldn't have been a problem. S.m completely did NOT pull their load. Capital invested millions and s.m just stopped trying as soon as they turned their backs. That type of behavior is just good enough to get the members blacklisted from Hollywood, but the management and people in charge could literally care less.This is the real reason for super m not doing as well as bts. Bts got popular and then worked to maintain popularity. Super m gained a little traction and s.m just stopped really trying. People don't understand that something as simple as giving super m a simple vlog channel or having the members do funny challenges could have literally saved the group. Even that was too much for s.m. It's not surprising because they even try and deny older groups something as simple as a documentary. They must get tons of offers but they never adhere to any of them because they want as much money in their pockets as possible. The company is full of greedy money hungry people and it has always been this way. I have known about kpop since I was like 7, Boa was on MTV in America back in the day, but what happened? What always happens S.m puts in a little effort and then expects the world to be so grateful for their product that they, the fans, should do the promoting for them. That is not how the west works, that's why everything they do in the u.s is always a "failure". It's not a failure, they just feel like if they put in 20% effort and don't get back number one billboard results that it's not worth it. Even in Korea, they wanted Kai to promote Rover for a week and if he did that then he wouldn't have eventually one first place. People have stayed silent on s.m too long, it is not just them being incompetent they are purposely sabotaging their artists careers.It's not a coincidence so many people have sued the company for the exact same thing, they do not like their own artists, it's clear as day. Could you even imagine a 20 year old Justin Bieber being treated like an s.m idol, it never would of happened because Scooter was invested in his artists best interest. Where there is smoke their is fire. Super m revealed how S.m operates, they want money but even more than that they want complete control. Their artists don't succeed in the west because they can mistreat them without fans complaining in the east, it's not as easy to see what's going on in Korea. They obviously don't want american news reporters that they can't buy and control doing articles on them . The management team at the company is very egotistical way more than the artists and they like to trick investors into thinking the company or a project will do fantastic but then when it doesn't do as well as expected they put in ZERO effort. Just poor work ethic and it makes the artists look bad. All of super m worked very hard, too hard for s.m to do absolutely nothing with the group after 2021. S.M is a shameful shameful company, they deserve all the bad karma they are getting and worse. All of their legacy artists should leave, let the management perform onstage since it's obvious they are power hungry to such a disastrous degree.

As a new K-Pop fan, this seems like some fever dream shit lol😂

I always thought that SuperM would have best worked as a group with rotating members that would encorporate non-enlisted SM group members so they could still work while their enlisted members were gone.

The fact that I was thinking about them the other day like I completely forgot about them until I was thinking about. I was like "I wonder what's going on with SuperM. I havent heard from them in a while." I really enjoy listeninf to SuperM but it sucks that they werent consistent tho.

I stayed up all night to watch the debut and thought it was "too much". But as I listened to them and kept up with their comebacks I must say that... they actually DID work! Love them so much!

Since this all was Lee Sooman’s brainchild, I don’t think they would have a comeback anymore tho. That’s sad because I really did enjoy them.

Just a short comment from an ancient Kpop fan: Super M was not their first "super unit" of SM entertainment. They had Younique back in 2012 that was made of Eunhyuk and Henry from Suju, Taemin from Shinee, Kai and Luhan from EXO and was even co-ed because of Hyoyeon of SNSD and much as SuperM it crumbled down into nothing. But still memorable for the oldies.

SuperM is not the dumbest idea. It is one of the coolest ideas. What happened that lead it to fail was a couple of reasons: Lucas’ long hiatus following controversy, different members belonging to different groups so different schedules and date of military enlistment, COVID pandemic and most importantly SM itself. A whole storm blew through within the management, with SM passing from the hands of Lee Soo Man to a different management and all the conflict and drama as to who would buy SM. With all the instability in its management, forget SuperM, even the existing groups are facing challenges and the older groups like SHINee, SNSD, Suju, EXO are no longer renewing their contracts as almost no one wants to stay under the current management. SM artists usually renew their contract, take SHINee as an example. But things have changed since Lee Soo Man relinquished his shares and hold on SM and SM fell. I just hope the artists can walk away with full legal rights to their group and do group activities freely in the future even if they choose not to renew contracts with SM. I also wish the company that started kpop, the mother of this industry, SM wouldn’t be destroyed so easily, for it took LSM years to build it to it’s glory. Popular or not, without SM, there’s no kpop… SM will always be considered part of Big 3 in kpop.

I am glad I was there when all of this unfolded and yeah as you said, why did I sit back like it was all normal 😂. Fun times. Looking back Jopping and its MV were really iconic but I think the problem was, were they giving us anything different from the rest to stand out, according to my opinion, NO. Also, for all I know American public or even new American K-pop fans did not care much about an "avengers" because they might not have been very aware of all of them. so, they coudn't capitalise on the new k-pop wave happening in the US then. For all I know, they were just another K-Pop group for them. But I really thought it would lead to a trend in the K-Pop scene and all other companies would follow which did not happen. Although, I still fantasize the idea.

SuperM was the most brilliant business transaction I've ever witnessed. Capitol Records sets out to do business with a Korean label, they choose SM. Automatically that means all the finances for this project does not solely land on SM financial table. SM invests their portion of funds and CR invests their portion to attack the West. LS achieved his goal without spending a dime close to what he would've had to pay doing this project solo while pimpin' out not 1, not 2, but 3 groups including (3 NCT Units, 1 EXO Unit). The man had us all watching a video more than once just because all or favs was in one group, can't look at all of them at the same time. It was criminal. 'No Manners' and 'Drip' on repeat for life. *First Supergroup was Younique Unit.

SM has been trying so hard for decades to make it big in the states and they are still failing big time

i adore superm, and i always will. i am always sad that they didnt work out :( their music absolutely hits and i literally adore everyone in the group, i will always secretly hope that they come back together. like we didnt even get a fandom name ☹️💔

Mark's rap in Jopping will always be iconic!

As a Shawol, I loved every second of SuperM. Sadly, I don't think we'll have SuperM back 😢 Even though Lucas is finally back, and Kai will be out of the MS soon, Baekhyun and Taeminie left, also LSM and SuperM are almost synonyms... so yeah, it's gonna be hard...

I love their album so I'm good

I took an 18 month break from listening to kpop while I was serving a church mission, so I had no idea what SuperM was when I got back. I was just trying to catch up on comebacks and assumed from the thumbnail that Jopping was an EXO comeback. I wasn't that familiar with EXO before my mission, but I at least knew all the members and couldn't for the life of me figure out who these other people aside from Kai and Beakhyun were lol! SuperM was the reason I got into Shinee and NCT! Love them!

Really love SuperM and so sad their time was so short. They made me returned to KPOP in 10 Years since TVXQ(5).

That year i was new in exploring kpop, superm actually make me explore the group behind it like exo shinee nct wayv and i remember that time i play the superstar game for the first time 😅

I loved SuperM….miss them so much! Th timing of their Military service..killed them moving forward! If they came back..id be thrilled. SM biggest mistake was not promoting their huge groups in the west…like BTS was.

Super groups are a terrible idea, not just on Kpop, but in general. Usually, executives aspire to conquer multiple fandom with a group, but the fans are more worried about the mistreatment of the original groups, or in Kpop, the fandom is divided by bias, so in the best scenario you can't hope for the audience of the whole group, but at the best you shoot for the fans of one member, and even that isn't guaranteed. Supergroups divide fandoms, makes the original groups feel left out, and the idols are worked tirelessly so accidents, injuries and leaves of absence could happen. In rock, supergroups aren't that bad because the members join in the meantime between projects and usually is about people largely successful, but in Kpop is just a laboratory product, diminishing the potential. Also, another point: some idols even have solo career in parallel to groups activities, so people like Taemin not only isn't releasing SHINee material, but also Taemin music, which is also excellent, so imagine that fans, trying to avoid the anger and being willing to put themselves again for a new group. It's bonkers.

Super M is LSM’s ego project. It is his last attempt to compete with the rise of Big Hit and BTS. The whole world was talking about them like BTS is KPOP, and BTS gaining a reputation as “the Avengers of Kpop” for their concentration and diversity of talents within a group, and Bang PD as the genius behind them. LSM felt some type of way about it, and that’s understandable. SuperM is Lee Soo Man’s last grasp to claim the Kpop legacy. Up to then, and even now, his legacy is his contribution to the iron clad grip of the infamous slave contracts. Not to mention the systemization and legalization of the exploitations of young lives to the point of de*th. This isn’t an opinion. The facts related to this are out there on public records. It is no coincidence that he offered some of his shares of SME to HYBE only a few years later, followed by selling to HYBE the remaining of all of his stock in SM recently.

I loved Super M. We went to see them in Cali. The concert was really great.. SO LONG is my absolute best track by them..

Taeyong looked extremely fine in tiger inside omd i'm still not over it.

I LOVE SUPERM THEY GOT ME THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. When I heard Better Days for the first time, I cried. But, it made me realize that Me and my family could get through the pandemic. We just had to hold on and things would get better. When President Biden came into power, it slowly but surely happened. I will never forget SuperM and the impact they had on me during that dark period. God bless that group. 🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾

Taemin also didn't resign as a soloist but did as a shinee member with no mention of super m so I think that can also be an answer

(Edited) Please do what happened to woo!ah!, T-ara, hellovenus, MBLAQ, afterschool, 9muses, BTOB, secret, Rainbow, brown eyed girls, day6, Nu'est, and pentagon because i've been requested for a very long time

It was called avengers because they assembled from different groups lol duh

i don’t see how superm was dumb at all, their music is amazing and they were really successful. it’s just that things like covid and enlistment affected them + sm’s mismanagement (of course). i really hope they’ll be able to have comeback once taeyong comes back from the military (fml he’s my ult 💔). seeing them live in london was such an incredible experience, i’m so glad i was able to and that they were my first concert. being able to see 4 nct members knowing i’ll likely never see them in concert again was so great too, i just wish nct 127 would finally come back here after 5 years :( america isn’t the entire world 🤕 (although i saw mark again last year with nct dream). i’m also really happy i got to see my ult taeyong as well as lucas of course :] they’re just all so talented, i wish sm didn’t waste the even bigger potential superm could have had

When Are We Gonna See a SuperM Comeback? The Wait is Killing Me!

I think it was a dumb idea because SM try to hop into the bandwagon when Kpop became big in the western with the success of groups like Bts and Bp. Superm wasnt feel as organic as the other two bcs how the group created with heavy promotion and 'dumb' songs with no meaningful message at all. They should've been pushing their established groups such as Nct, exo or shinee rather than this 'fabricated' group.

Only Korean group to ever debut at #1 on the Billboard top 200 album charts. If they never released another album afterwards, they still would have been considered a success.

Who is still Jopping in 2024? 😂

Those lightsticks lookings fiiiine I still need to get the ARTMS one

man i miss super m 😩 i do understand the criticism they receive but but seeing my 2 ults baekhyun and taemin together in a group was crazyyy to me i really wish i was able to see them when they came to america and hope they have another comeback some day🥺

I remember attending their concert in Chicago 4 years ago back in there first tour. That was my very first kpop concert loll

Thanks for putting together this great overview. I was wondering what they were doing with this group. It's really too bad, they came out with some great songs and had the platform all primed to really do well.

Don't forget that SuperM had that one 2019 collab with Korean Air for a in-flight safety video that they still have playing on flights lol

Lee Soo Man's ego destroyed SuperM, he doesn't understand how to make a modern or American song and shouldn't have meddled in the creative process

Hot Take: While I'm not going to deny the genuine popularity superm has (particularly during debut), I stand by my belief that all the money, time and effort SM entertainment put into them, SHOULD have gone to taemin--- promoting him internationally. Think about it: he was all alone bcs his shinee members were doing their military service, fans had been asking for international activities (i.e., a world tour) as far back as 2017, and taemin just overall has both the talent and a personality that outshines the rest (sorry not sorry). You mentioned that while superm was a fun idea, it didn't really gain much for SM. To that, I also think taemin would have gained SM a lot more revenue and gift back what superm couldn't. Taemin going International is not only what people who are already taemints want, but also what the general global public want as well. People are waiting for the next big male popstar to come knocking, but little do they know; taemins been breaking those doors down (only in korea that is smh). Taemin has the "IT" factor the GP is searching for, and I truly do think its a shame SM never capitalized on '"IT" (taemin). But anyways, taemin has already left SM solo wise, so I guess none of it really matters anymore lol

i would love an episode about TripleS and Jaden Jeong's ideas behind their "idol of all possibilities" concept

Idk how this group was considered a dumb idea. I loved it. Having the best in that industry in one group was so cool

If I wished for a comeback it would be SuperM without thinking twice. Besides the wacky marketing I love their whole discography without skipping. They are 🔥🔥🔥.

first thing I want to say (this isn't in a mean way) for mentioning the idols individual groups you forgot to mention WayV , another thing when you do the next video focusing on the Lucas scandal please do your research properly because some of the people so far that have discussed about this have not done proper research on it which is very frustrating because now people are going to think this is right and think that its legit what those people be saying. ok thats all I have to say thank you

his story telling style is so fun to listen.😂