Great info as always, this tool is high on my priority list and I will definitely pick it up through your link. Glad the stickers turned out so good man and I really appreciate the mention! I will have a video up on them soon!

Yessir. Learned this the hard way when I jammed a hollow-tip and spend two hours cleaning up powder and knocking a bullet out of the lands. Thanks for the reminder😁

Thanks for the video. Like it has been noted, it's actually pronounced "o-jive". I don't make up the rules, just what it's always been pronounced. Keep up the good work.

Thank you for including the link to the anvil base. Those were hard to find lol

Been handloading over 60 years...ogive is pronounced OH GIVE..emphasis on the OH and long "I" in give. It is NOT pronounced give as to "give me directions". You do a super job on explanations.

Great video and explanation

Starting to make sense to me, thanks.

Great video. Brought up some questions, but I won't ask them here. Don't want to be a target of all the keyboard commandos. I'll figure it out. Thanks!

Very good info,ty

Great video.thx for sharing🎉

Got to get one of those ogive measuring tools. Great video sir. What bullet brand do you prefer?

Good video and informative. The o_give is pronounced as O Jive😇

Ogive (pron: O jive). They teach this in week one at Field Artillery school.

Totally understand how this tool will give you consistent clearance from your lands. But doesn't it at the same time create different pressure issues between the rounds when almost all bullets are different lengths and when you are setting them according to the ogive you are seating some bullets deeper ? And does that not create different velocities ? And different velocities over distance will create different impact points ? Honest questions.

Im Farley new to reloading i load 223 for an ar-15 if i measures of the ogive will i do the same over OAL as tip

I thought it's pronounced: oh-jive.

I never knew that Hornady made that anvil base for the Bullet/Headspace comparator kit... Every time you clamp the comparator on your calipers it's always offset and it makes my OCD go a little crazy. LOL Just ordered one...

Thanks...🤠

I understand why to measure to the ogive and how to measure my rifle to get the "to the lands" dimension. How do you compare a given OAL given for load specs to the ogive measurement?

Very informative as usual Kurt . Mate with my 30 Cal Hornady insert the 308 Hornady 168gr A-Max bullets go into it without touching any part of the inside of the insert and the bullet tip goes all the way until it touches the front of the body , for the life of me I don’t understand how it is that Hornady let that one slip through quality control ( maybe these inserts are not suitable for their A-max bullets . I haven’t read it anywhere that they are not . Perhaps they make special inserts for their long sleek A-Max and ELD bullets , not that I’ve heard that they do ) . My question is can I use a smaller insert say the .28 cal and still get a valid reading or should I just by a Sinclair insert ? .Cheers 🍻 from Australia .

I do this with the same bullet and it's giving me different results... I use hornady tool and lapua bullet.

Question!! So when a load manual calls for a particular COAL for example a .308 at 2.810, is that to the ogive and not the tip? Let say if you measured to the tip to get that number(2.810), that rounds completed length measured to ogive would be smaller than the tip measurement(2.810) no? sorry for the confusion, I'm new to reloading and just want to make sure I do not make any critical mistakes! Thanks for the great vids!

I like DAVIDSON - SEATING DEPTH BASE PIECES better than Hornaday anvil because primer will not touch on base like Hornady anvil..

If your reloading for an AR platform should you use a comparator or just measure from the tip to meet magazine length?

I bought the bullet comparator can use same comparator with the headspace bushings

O-give me a home, where the boofalo rome, and the skies rrr nut clouty all dai...... O-jive turkee

Can someone please send me a measurement in metric of the hole of the .30 cal comp. gauge. Thanks

Oh-jive or ogive ...the only thing that matters is what your gun likes. The rest is hot air adding to global warming. My .223 Remington 700 BDL loves the Winchester (USA 2232) 45 gr. Hollow point. Now with the ammo shortage I thought I would give reloading a try. Before throwing a load, I wanted to learn as much as I could for safety first, then get into the mechanics of reloading. First I needed a process that works for me and covers all the bases. In my research, one of the things I discovered is the OGIVE and its relationship to accuracy and safety. So, I decided to check a box of my guns favorite ammo for where is the ogive. Well, it’s all over the map plus or minus 0.030” 😳 My goal is to reproduce what my gun likes, and not to reinvent the wheel here. Since bullet diameter for .223 is actually .224, and the inside diameter of my barrel 0.213 than is an 0.011” press fir or interference fit. THATS HUGE....!! And very tight. After further study, the barrel major diameter below the rifling lands is 0.224. Which makes sense. It take every bit of that 50,000 psi of pressure to push that bullet out the end and do it’s job......accurately. Now, with all this, there is a ton of friction going on. A small blast of heat and a ton of friction making more heat. Although the pressure is high, the amount of cubic feet created is very small. But, that friction is only really high for the first half inch or so, until the entire bearing surface of the bullet has been push into the rifling, then the resistance decreases exponentially because then those groves or little highways are done being made. As that happens the pressure is dropping as the powder gets used up. That’s why a slow burning powder is better for rifles that for pistols. Too much powder is a bad thing. That is looking more like there is a timing issue going on here too. Having a powder that keeps burning long after the bullet has cleared the barrel is an expensive waste. There is a lot of physics, chemistry and mechanics going on the very nano second that firing pin hits the primer. Our job is done. There is nothing more we can do, but enjoy the ride. You gun will either love what you put in the chamber, or hate what you did. Ok, so, what am I talking about here? I want to make what my gun likes, but with the ogive tolerance all over the map which one to I choose, where do I start? I am going to start with nominal first. That means a 45 grain bullet. Then powder choice for a bullet speed. I have several boxes of over the counter 2232. I am going to check 5 boxes of 40 rounds to get a mean on the ogive position. FIRST. Then start with a load from the reload data, and placing my bullet at the mean depth I come up with. And go from there. So far I am into this about a thousand dollars. That’s just me. For some guys those details don’t mean a thing. For me it does. It part of the journey, it’s part of my process, it only about the fun, and it’s about about sharing very real accurate knowledge to others, so they next guy can go to the range knowing he is good to go safely. These are big boy toys that can hurt others. My father and I went to the local gun range. These three brother showed up with hand guns. They acted weird. They had just reloaded some pistol rounds. They made me feel very uncomfortable. My father was up to shoot. I got worried so I pulled him off the bench. As I did, the on his left shot, and a small piece of lead just knocked my dad on his left cheek bone. I told the range master. He made these guys leave the range and they denied it was them, and things began to escalate. After some shouting back and forth between them and the range master, others came out of the clubhouse. Those brothers left. Unbeknownst to us, they have been trouble each time, and were never allowed access to the range again. So, now after a seven year hiatus, I want to get back into shooting again, but, my GOD, this is sure bad timing. My personal promise to my wife and myself is to always be safe. My other promise is to always pass on positive facts I can prove with actual numbers when asked. Right now, all I have is my plan. Five decimal places is precision to me. That, I can count on.

Sorry for the late question but how do you get consistent ogives if the oal of bullet is different up to .008? Would I need a die to seat off ogive? I use a lee seating die.

I'm wondering if there is a recommended starting point for how far your bullet sits off the lands?

I did not hear you say anything about head space? and a go no gauge tool as you can get to close to lands! Also semi auto loaders need to be care not get to long and cause cycle problems!

How do I tell which bushing to use.? It looks to me it looks likethe bushing doesent slide up the bullet far enouph? I have a bushing that says 8-30, it's hornady, would this be the right one for 30cal? I'm new to relaoding and my goal is to get as close to the lans as possible.

OK sir I am not questioning you but I am confused you call it the oh give 95% of the other people call at the ogive pronounced O jive. Do we know for sure which one it is so I don’t look stupid?

I, as a new reloader have questioned this... My fear has been the maximum length of a loaded round fitting in the magazine.. Shooting a .308.. recommended overall length is 2.800"... Measuring from base to tip this is pretty easily accomplished, but because of the difference in some bullets in length from ogive to tip, there is a possibility of seating a round that is too long to fit in the mag. What are your recommendations for eliminating the over length cartridge...??

Is Ogive and Ojive the same thing? I thought it was Ojive? or can a guy use both words to describe the bullet shape? Thanks for the video.

what if if you could give us some information on 9 mm precision hand loading

Does this benefit you if you are shooting with an AR 15?

hi ,whats correct length to ogive 308 cal.175 gr sierra MK

Hi, will this tool work to measure the rim to ogive on a 22LR rimfire

If you are using Hornady headspace gauge and check it with every box of bullets you load. Would you not catch it this way? VS checking the bullet all by its self. And the tip of the bullet does not enter the equation. I am new to reloading 6.5 Creedmoor and am learning all I can before trial and error. I am on the 10 days wait for my riffle but have everything to build bullets. Currently sizing new and once fired brass. Using Lee 4 set die set. The first time through full-length sizing until I fire them once. Any pointer from you are very welcome since I follow your channel.

I'm new to shooting but I wondered is measuring to the O'Give something new ? I see so many new videos about this measurement.

Great video explaining the use of these inserts. Question: the insert is basically to stop on the ogive, and it's best to stop in the "sweet" spot, center, of the ogive? I'm asking because I can turn some of these up easily enough to use with my head space set without having to buy them. Thanks

Oh-Jive.

Then why are they caliber specific? We really need only one small one.

Love your videos. I've learned vast amounts of knowledge from you. So thanks so much for your wealth of information! But..... I've been told it's pronounced "O-JIVE" not O-GIVE. Any thoughts or is it simply as TOMATO and TOMAHTO?

O give? That’s a new one to me...

I gotta pick one of these up sometime.

“Ogive” 😂😂😂😂

Where can I find the anvil base ? Thanks 🎉🎉

is the clampon part on the comparator the same for both the Headspace kit and the Bullet Comparator?

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I could be wrong but I don't think measuring the ogive is any better I've noticed if you go from lot # to lot# the ogive is different

One would think that manufacturers would produce every round with base to tip lengths identical down to the thousandths or ten thousandths of an inch.

He's doing fine stop being a oh-jive turkey

Im not sure what happened, but this video is not showing up in my subscription feed. Maybe something on your end or maybe KZfaq is playing games... Just thought you should know as maybe its happening to others as well.

I made a video series on reloading 6.6 CM and got a lot of negative reviews in my part 6 video (seating) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpqAgbNemayUqIU.html I heard that the ELDs were very consistent, I couldn't be certain until I checked myself doing exactly what you just did in this video, I think most people are used to inconsistent tips from other bullet manufacturers, but Hornady ELD bullets are made very well. I have had reloading instructors disagree with me, which I can understand if they havent relaoded ELDs, but I think you and I know the truth. Good video man

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is pronouncing it O'Jive a French thing ?

There is no give Young man its pronounced Jive Like A Jiggerr Jive OR Jive Bunny

O jive is how I hear most pronounce it. O give…. Like… give me some money…. Sounds like it’s spelled. Is this another dang Zerox spelled xerox!!!!! I would REALLY love to slap the person that first called it ZEROX AND SPELLED IT XEROX!!

"O-give"....😆😆😆😆

It’s pronounced Oh-jive

Oh give him a break

AHHHHHH !!! its pronounced as "O-JIVE", not "O-GIVE".......good video, but annoying as hell each time you mispronounce the word. When TEACHING, ...proper pronunciation REALLY makes a difference in your credibility and student attention span.

O-"give"? No...O-"jive". C'mon.

It’s pronounced oh-jive not ogive look at angle measurement

O-Give is correct... but who gives a rat sass HOW it’s pronounced.

Do you advocate measuring each round, or is the seating die accurate enough once set for one bullet and depth for that bullet?