Why Millions Buy Harley-Davidson Motorcycles

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People say these motorbikes are overpriced tractors for the blindly patriotic. But we also see a few logical, erudite reasons to choose a Harley-Davidson motorcycle. Seriously.
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@jondotcom8706
@jondotcom8706 2 жыл бұрын
So this is why they don’t wave. They’re hanging on for dear life!
@rahulrajbhoj
@rahulrajbhoj 2 жыл бұрын
hahahhahah
@TonyRule
@TonyRule 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried pushing a wheelbarrow with one hand?
@TS50ER
@TS50ER 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 2 жыл бұрын
And they don't dare to open it up and just plod along, just in case that thing DOES start to wobble.
@johndavis6596
@johndavis6596 2 жыл бұрын
Classic :)
@udiptadutta7729
@udiptadutta7729 2 жыл бұрын
Only f9 can convince me to buy and not buy harley's at the same time
@upperjohn117aka
@upperjohn117aka 2 жыл бұрын
@@robc4191 but maybe he should
@90cat1
@90cat1 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t listen to Rob C, do
@m3talc0re
@m3talc0re 2 жыл бұрын
Test ride several, find what fits you, never look back.
@danmanthe9335
@danmanthe9335 2 жыл бұрын
Hilariously true. I say that you should take one for a test ride and make up your own mind. I loved my Crossbones
@Dannn666
@Dannn666 2 жыл бұрын
Schrödinger's Motorcycle
@MikeAltogether
@MikeAltogether Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate a person who passionately makes an argument they disagree with. Well done.
@Vintage.Mindset
@Vintage.Mindset Жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked Harley’s bikes, especially the Dynas and the Sportster. You explained it better in 10 minutes than I’ve been able to in 5 years of owning my Wide Glide.
@chriswilliams9069
@chriswilliams9069 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had many motorcycles and dirt bikes over the years and still have a garage full of them. I love all types of bikes from the smallest to largest. I have an ‘04 softail night train, that I bought new. The reason it’s one of my favorite bikes is because of many of the things he said in the video. It’s not a really fast bike (for a Harley it is), it’s definitely not comfortable (not even by Harley standards). It does, however, have a certain feel about it that I’ve never really experienced on many other bikes. Despite not handling very well it makes you feel one with the road, it’s long and planted so to speak. Which makes it a hell of a lot of fun to ride especially in a stretched out semi relaxed position. Just like his comparison with todays vehicle my soft tail is definitely an old muscle car in a world of modern bikes and I love that about it. Not all Harley’s are the same, of course. They all have a much different feel. A Roadglide to me is basically a medieval couch but when comparing it to other touring bikes it’s something different and a lot of what I said above can be applied.
@chadkimmel8957
@chadkimmel8957 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned two Wide Glides, the current one being an 07 I bought brand new. Never once in the tens of thousands of miles have I ever experienced “Dyna Death Wobble” this is the first time I’ve ever heard of it.
@KJ-kc3dm
@KJ-kc3dm Жыл бұрын
​@@chadkimmel8957 I'm with you there! I bought my first Harley, 7 years ago, an '06 wide glide. I've put 25k on it, myself, and this is the first I've heard of the potential issue!
@frankpeletz1818
@frankpeletz1818 Жыл бұрын
@@KJ-kc3dm I'm the original owner of an 93 FXDWG Michelin suck.
@blackholeentry3489
@blackholeentry3489 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswilliams9069 In 2013, I set out from central CA on a mission to 'bag' the 13 states I had never previously been in before...ALL of them east of the MS River....first 'new' state, Georgia. Even though I had previously been to Key West, (Twice) revisited there again....and I was riding a Honda ST 1100. While riding the Blue Ridge Parkway in VA, I met a guy who was riding an identical bike as mine. Long story short....he lived in Alexandria, VA (about a mile from the Pentagon) and invited me to his home for the night..(I ended up spending three.) He also had a Harley he wanted me to ride, so I did, while he rode his Honda. We rode almost 100 miles, often passing through some 'parks and other slow areas where people were walking. I soon observed an odd thing.....we passed many people walking and so many of the women walking ignored him, who was leading, but waved at me as I passed by on 'my' Harley. My Honda sported some after market exhaust and was not quiet by any means, but the Harley sounded more like a motorcycle? Anyway, I was always quite puzzled by this reaction. BHE
@romeovictor6223
@romeovictor6223 2 жыл бұрын
"For a T-shirt company... they sure do sell a lot of bikes."
@rickybobby8224
@rickybobby8224 2 жыл бұрын
How original of you. Haven't heard that one before...
@iamuglypeople
@iamuglypeople 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickybobby8224 I hadn’t heard it before, and I thought it was funny.
@romeovictor6223
@romeovictor6223 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickybobby8224 Theres a reason why it is in quotations ;)
@michaelconran5252
@michaelconran5252 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair my wife and I only have 3 Harley's, but at least a 100 T-shirts not to mention, gloves, jackets and helmet. Yplour statement is right on point.
@troll2637
@troll2637 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelalenna4387 oooh! A scammer!
@johntaylor2441
@johntaylor2441 2 жыл бұрын
Harley has been screaming “history and heritage!” for 20 years. They never could explain what that meant. You just did it in ten minutes using a combination of physics and art history. Bravo sir, bravo!
@IstasPumaNevada
@IstasPumaNevada 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, they could explain that, but you don't explain the fishhooks to the fish; you have to keep luring them with The Shiny.
@ejohnst4
@ejohnst4 2 жыл бұрын
20?
@AndyViant
@AndyViant 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, they were screaming that when the Evo motor came out.
@jc5604
@jc5604 2 жыл бұрын
History and heritage means styling. The M8 is a sophisticated engine. The Twin Cam is a sophisticated engine. The Evo is a sophisticated engine. And so on. People act like there aren't literal engineers designing these engines. They can explain it all they want. The average Harley buyer doesn't care about the engine's sophistication. They care about styling and reliability. Harley has both - you can ride timelessly down the road for a 100,000 miles, rebuild, and hand it down to your kid who then rides timelessly down the road for another. There is no other brand that has this following. It is why they all at some point make a clone.
@JF-lt5zc
@JF-lt5zc 2 жыл бұрын
@@jc5604 They do make reliable engines, and the Revolution is surely appealing if they would put it in a decent package. That being said, there are plenty of other bikes with just as much reliability and following. Honda's regularly go over 100k, BMWs, Yamaha, etc.
@gcm1504
@gcm1504 Жыл бұрын
I live in Australia a long way from Milwaukee, I have owned 4 Harley Davidson's in my life Sportster, Softail Heritage & 2 Road Kings. I am now 67 and have just bought another Road King, it still needs an invitation to go round corners, scares the crap out of me when I stop, in case I drop it (issue with getting old) But I love the feel, sound and the sheer pleasure of riding a big, really big bike on the open road. Just done a 2500 mile trip with my partner and can't wait to go again. Great video hopefully explains the madness of committed HD riders
@MrXavierwalls
@MrXavierwalls Жыл бұрын
Great video, I was between a Harley and Indian Scout for my first bike. As someone who is not loyal to any brand or had any preconceived notions on the brands it was an easy choice to go with an Indian. I appreciate both brands but Harley's in my mind were the equivalent of the Corvette. All I could imagine was old dudes wearing air Monarchs. Not ready for that yet lol.
@slaytanic921
@slaytanic921 9 ай бұрын
I too went Indian recently for my first bike. 2017 scout.
@MalfosRanger
@MalfosRanger 8 ай бұрын
I went with a 2017 Scout Sixty for my first.
@paulachenkonobert3802
@paulachenkonobert3802 8 ай бұрын
Chief Dark Horse Bodder 2023.
@RossGoneRogue
@RossGoneRogue 7 ай бұрын
I had the same thought process and just got a Scout Rogue Sixty. Great bike and even though it weighs within 20lbs of my Shadow 750, it feels extremely light and doesn't take much to get up and go.
@matthew55793
@matthew55793 3 ай бұрын
The difference between Harleys and Corvettes is that Corvettes can actually perform.
@piltrid1
@piltrid1 2 жыл бұрын
20+ years ago, a work mate asked when I was going to get a Harley. I replied "I'm not old enough or fat enough to get a Harley". Couple of years ago he looks at me and says "So, when are you getting that Harley?".
@MiGujack3
@MiGujack3 2 жыл бұрын
Well, what are you waiting for? As someone said, C O S P L A Y F O R D A D S
@MrPAULONEAL
@MrPAULONEAL 2 жыл бұрын
You're probably old enough now...
@gabor222
@gabor222 2 жыл бұрын
You should have bought a Sportster then :D
@TheZubeck8888
@TheZubeck8888 2 жыл бұрын
Old fat guys can drive good bikes. They're not relegated to getting a Harley.
@robbalinski1606
@robbalinski1606 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have replied with "when harley builds a real bike"
@DumberInRealLife
@DumberInRealLife 2 жыл бұрын
I know that without fail every time I click on a FortNine video I’m going to learn something interesting and helpful while being entertained. World-class content as always.
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
And be amazed at how incapable big tv cooperates lack in production quality
@pookiewookie7679
@pookiewookie7679 2 жыл бұрын
What did you learn from this video?
@DumberInRealLife
@DumberInRealLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@pookiewookie7679 could be my own ignorance, but I did not know the FatBoy was named after the atomic bombs. Also, as a mechanical engineer, the conservation of momentum walk-thru is interesting to review.
@DumberInRealLife
@DumberInRealLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-dj7fh very true. And all of this is primarily the work of just two people. Par excellence.
@Francois_Dupont
@Francois_Dupont 2 жыл бұрын
the explaination about tank-slappers/death wobble is garbage and utter wrong.
@jerrybrown66
@jerrybrown66 9 ай бұрын
All the miles and memories I got riding Harleys with my dad over the years before he got too old, are invaluable. Never once did we say, "ya know, these memories would be so much better if we had dual pin cranks."
@OmGiTsMeTaStY
@OmGiTsMeTaStY 9 ай бұрын
Imagine how much more memorable they would've been if you had REAL horsepower. Harley power is cute.
@NotJustAnotherAverageJoe
@NotJustAnotherAverageJoe 7 ай бұрын
@@OmGiTsMeTaStY There's a certain magic to riding slow and easy, with a nice exhaust noise on the rear, you don't need to go 120 mph like an asshole to enjoy riding.
@flippy66
@flippy66 7 ай бұрын
They wouldn't be worse either, unless your memories are all about having single pin cranks? And some more people might still have their memories if their bikes didn't kill them.
@OmGiTsMeTaStY
@OmGiTsMeTaStY 7 ай бұрын
@flippy5118 yeah cause it's the bike that killed them.....
@plwadodveeefdv
@plwadodveeefdv 6 ай бұрын
​@@OmGiTsMeTaStY it's not the bike that kills you, it's riding it
@pwatom22
@pwatom22 Жыл бұрын
So besides dealing with the 30 times greater chance of death and injury riding a bike vs a car, even the most cautious of riders could be caught out with this serious design flaw. Thanks for these informative technical videos !
@DanBlackRacing
@DanBlackRacing 9 ай бұрын
Everyone I know that had ridden on a Dyna (I know hundreds of riders throughout NY) for decade have never had this happen. I ask a ll the time at bike nights. Just like most Wrangler owners don't actually experience their death wobble unless they've been inappropriately messing around with their suspension.
@brownjatt21
@brownjatt21 8 ай бұрын
The guy in the video owns that 99 Dyna, I'm gonna assume it's a great bike and not a death trap. I mean unless the guy in the video is an idiot and doesn't know what he's talking about.
@ryanfields3247
@ryanfields3247 8 ай бұрын
@@DanBlackRacing It doesn't need to be a 100% of the time issue for it to be an issue. If you ask 100 people, and the very last one says yes it's happened to them, why would I want to buy something I know has a chance to just straight up buck me for no good reason other than being stubborn and resistant to change? If I'm going down, I'd prefer to have a fighting chance than to have my bike straight up assassinate me.
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 6 ай бұрын
I’ve only ever seen people with sport bikes get speedwobbles lol. None of my dynas have had this happen
@plwadodveeefdv
@plwadodveeefdv 6 ай бұрын
​@@DanBlackRacinghad death rattle in the old cherokee but never a wrangler. thought it was way more common in the cherokees and never really heard from other wrangler owners about it tbh
@ApologeticsandEvidence
@ApologeticsandEvidence 2 жыл бұрын
"Rougher than a peg legged ballerina... until you see her dance." Lol.. I subscribed simply for the one liners.
@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy
@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! This channel is entertaining, even if you're not into riding motorcycles.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 2 жыл бұрын
Triumph and Harley two companies who just about survived
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 2 жыл бұрын
@@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy I agree
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you see the 1 legged prostitute near Aberdeen harbour(Scotland)....you mind will wander for the next few hours!
@lifespanofafry1534
@lifespanofafry1534 27 күн бұрын
The main reason why I am not. 😵‍💫
@KineDa96
@KineDa96 2 жыл бұрын
“no one cries when Kawasaki updates the Ninja, because they do it every three minutes” lmao
@fernandocbr
@fernandocbr 2 жыл бұрын
Because Kawasaki is not a company of lazy managers and engineers 😆
@steelsaddle2339
@steelsaddle2339 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandocbr did you not just watch the video?
@fernandocbr
@fernandocbr 2 жыл бұрын
@@steelsaddle2339 i watched it. And there are some Harley bikes I like, but I think they are too lazy and almost all the bikes seems the same with different colors, and it's not really so bad 😉
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder 2 жыл бұрын
...and probably why Kawasaki runs a hefty profit without government bailouts...and remember the VN1500 Nomad? Looked equal to any touring Harley without breaking down, and at a fraction of the cost....
@hermanstokbrood
@hermanstokbrood 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Or is it the Harley owner in you who needs to believe that? 😆😆
@wsurferdude_ct
@wsurferdude_ct Жыл бұрын
This explains my 97 Dyna Wide Glide. I do remember a bit of hesitation pushing it into a wide turn. Thank You!
@webbsteroni
@webbsteroni 6 ай бұрын
This is a fabulous assessment of the Motor Company. The idea that someone can't understand characteristics of a motorcycle without riding it just tells me that we're dealing with a customer base that is incapable of articulation. It is the close-minded Harley dude that pushes the MC to continually release antiquated technology. That being said, I friggin love my old death trap of a Dyna! 👊✊
@Three-LeggedCat
@Three-LeggedCat 5 ай бұрын
For sure, I love my 05 dyna, great bike lots of fun, I've had it for about 5 years now and just recently bought a Sputhe Chassis Stabilizer so I can dig into the turns a lot harder, but even stock it does pretty well. I come from riding gsxr 1000 in various other street bikes. But still I love my dyna. Can't wait to tighten it up though, next I want to get a GPR steering damper for it
@hsnkrdy
@hsnkrdy 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve every single Canadian dollar you make with these videos. This is world-class content
@goldbullet50
@goldbullet50 Жыл бұрын
He really has a way with words. Sets him apart from most other channels.
@ethancali9301
@ethancali9301 Жыл бұрын
just cant look away from that death wobble...
@cats5351
@cats5351 Жыл бұрын
Harley blows. Can't even get a dirt bike made in the United States. Good ol boys have to show up at Silver Lake Sand Dunes in their F-150 hauling a Honda
@erp7625
@erp7625 Жыл бұрын
@@cats5351 And they love it. Honda and Yamaha bikes (although japanese) have been making such amazing machines for so long that it is basically part of American culture to own one. You can bet your bottom dollar a Honda bike will do what it's asked.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography Жыл бұрын
KZfaq ad revenue at least is paid in gringo dollars, while his salary from Fortnine is likely paid in the monopoly money that Canadian currency.
@Kiwisilverfox106
@Kiwisilverfox106 3 ай бұрын
‘I’ve owned Honda, Suzukis, Ducati , Aprillias, Motor Guzzi, Victory and HD. I’ve loved them all for different reasons.
@briangrover873
@briangrover873 2 ай бұрын
Harley Davidson's dominance in the market is all about skilled marketing
@scottrickord7086
@scottrickord7086 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, when are you going to start making full length documentaries? You’ve got a real talent, man.
@paulmadreddog282
@paulmadreddog282 2 жыл бұрын
@seeni gzty Loving your Ryanesque hyperbole.
@pirateadam3686
@pirateadam3686 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan: I converted to metric Harley Davidson: *explodes with eagle screeching*
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact a bald eagle actually sounds like a seagull. They usually play red-tailed hawks screeches because they sound better.
@overlander123
@overlander123 2 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS Bald Eagles are really fat seagulls in fancy dress, their diet consists mainly of fish.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 2 жыл бұрын
@@overlander123 Yes I've seen quite a lot of them in both Alaska and the Columbia River Delta.
@rutvijsonawane8597
@rutvijsonawane8597 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rutvijsonawane8597
@rutvijsonawane8597 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@StokesMusicStudiosOnline
@StokesMusicStudiosOnline Жыл бұрын
Getting off my cruiser and onto an sv650 was the best decision I've ever made. Ultimate fun.
@Ritalie
@Ritalie Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love small twins. I am not really a fan of large 1000cc V-Twin liquid cooled racing engines, because they are not smooth, and don't like city traffic. Small engines are so much more pleasant for actual street riding, especially in traffic, because you don't get the violent chain lash at low speeds like you do with a large V-Twin like the V-Strom 1000.
@tylercarrell
@tylercarrell 22 күн бұрын
I’ve owned almost every type of motorcycle over the years but never Harley’s… every time i see someone on a Harley it just reminds me of that south park episode
@noonchucks
@noonchucks 2 жыл бұрын
Fortnine back at it with top notch quality again
@davidhaworth7152
@davidhaworth7152 2 жыл бұрын
Still
@calemarlow2283
@calemarlow2283 2 жыл бұрын
with the white vans
@FrankFurther
@FrankFurther 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Daniel
@rosch99
@rosch99 2 жыл бұрын
I needed to justify buying a lot of tools. So I bought a Harley. 20 years on and we're doing great!
@diamondmidnightgardener
@diamondmidnightgardener 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a KTM…. Same thing, I’ve bought lots of tools, however it’s 3 years later and it’s fucked!
@jonr4651
@jonr4651 2 жыл бұрын
Harley Davidson: uses a T45 to hold on a bracket that is used to hold a hose in place Also Harley Davison: Uses a flathead screw to secure my $300 seat so any crackhead with a pocket knife can steal it.
@daape7976
@daape7976 2 жыл бұрын
@@diamondmidnightgardener True ahaha
@timjohnson1199
@timjohnson1199 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonr4651 Well, if the crackhead can't steal it, he'll slice it. Don't frequent the city.
@VinzCassel
@VinzCassel 2 жыл бұрын
@@timjohnson1199 at least you keep the seat xd
@abhimanyujai5151
@abhimanyujai5151 10 ай бұрын
this is a guide to watch out before buying a HD! I completely start looking for an owned Harley just with watching this video! Your explanation on its sound and feel and the legacy completely makes me fall in love with her again.
@T13RR7
@T13RR7 Жыл бұрын
This video is so damn good. I am amazed with the quality of F9 productions… the way it’s written is just outstanding! 😮
@nna9509
@nna9509 2 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect way to explain something controversial, don't pick sides, just make us understand. As usual Ryan, fantastic work!
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 2 жыл бұрын
It's not really controversial everyone knows that Harleys are overpriced, slow bikes that don't handle properly, some people just love them anyway. There is some appeal is staying true to their past but other manufacturers have managed to strike a good compromise between staying true to their ethos and still redesigning their models to make them better and more modern. BMWs and Ducatis still appeal to their fans for the same reasons they did 50 years ago but they didn't have to stop making new bikes or keep producing the old ones forever to accomplish that.
@magnuspym
@magnuspym 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve an "oscar" for these combinations of analysis, and straight talk. Excellent camera/editing work too.
@salazam
@salazam 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty standard nowadays for youtube channels to have production crews. You've been watching too many basic-bitch motovlogs.
@sekou3758
@sekou3758 2 жыл бұрын
@@salazam Get a life
@Bob-Maplethorpe
@Bob-Maplethorpe 2 жыл бұрын
@@salazam name me a KZfaq motorcycle channel this good? Please! I'd love to watch it too.
@salazam
@salazam 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bob-Maplethorpe There are none that combine the honesty AND the production. That part is refreshing, I'll say.
@Bob-Maplethorpe
@Bob-Maplethorpe 2 жыл бұрын
@@salazam I follow a number of motorcycle channels from NA and Europe and one come close to the quality of Fortnine's work. The research methodology and depth of topic is what impresses me the most. When fortnine reviewed the Yamaha t700 their work was head and shoulders above anything else I saw. The section on anti-squat was soon stolen by others, I noticed. You can tell that Ryan has a strong science background, and is damned creative. Two great traits to possess. If you know of great sites, please share. I love watching informative shows.
@christian_esquivel
@christian_esquivel 2 ай бұрын
I rewatch this all the time, it is so good.
@Letsfixsomething26
@Letsfixsomething26 11 ай бұрын
I’ve watched this video front to back 67 times and it never gets old. Ryan is a complete rock star.
@hamdog8872
@hamdog8872 2 жыл бұрын
Those 400s Era paintings were hardcore. I love how you guys put stuff like that in videos. Fortnine is art
@FortNine
@FortNine 2 жыл бұрын
Hieronymus Bosch is a straight savage. The hell side of Garden of Earthly Delights is enough to make Beelzebub attend mass. ~RF9
@CHURCHISAWESUM
@CHURCHISAWESUM 2 жыл бұрын
@@FortNine Funny how we are attracted to things that are disturbing like that, that we should stay far away from. Like my infatuation with Royal Enfields.
@guywolff
@guywolff 2 жыл бұрын
@@FortNine Hieronymus Bosch c. 1450 - 9 August 1516) :)
@deferencetodusk
@deferencetodusk 2 жыл бұрын
@@CHURCHISAWESUM hey RE are pretty good these days
@BARS113113
@BARS113113 2 жыл бұрын
HD: We are making same bikes for decades Ural: Hold my beer..
@FortNine
@FortNine 2 жыл бұрын
Hold my vodka, comrade. ~RF9
@robplazzman6049
@robplazzman6049 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the Ural a BMW ? The Russians captured the BMW factory that the Nasties built after they advanced into Russia. They were pushed back so quickly they abandoned the factory and it became soviet property. A friend had one in the U.K. .. pig to start unless it was freezing cold, then it would start first kick !
@vladusoltseff6633
@vladusoltseff6633 2 жыл бұрын
@@robplazzman6049 well, actually, m72 is indeed a copy of bmw r71, but Urals and now discontinued Dniepers have made quite a long way. Maybe changes are not so significant as in milwaukee8 comparing to knucklehead, but modern Gear Ups are quite different from the old m72, and even later soviet models.
@milanvukovic7001
@milanvukovic7001 2 жыл бұрын
Haha they both share same cool factor
@adityachowhan3239
@adityachowhan3239 2 жыл бұрын
Royal Enfield: hold my tea
@FrankieBag0donuts
@FrankieBag0donuts Жыл бұрын
Been riding for 48 years and have owned and ridden pretty much everything. Started on a YZ80 and moved up from there. For cruising, I've always preferred Hondas over Harleys, but that's a matter of personal choice. What I've noticed in the past 10 years or so is middle age guys (who never rode a bike in their life) buy a Harley that's too big for them, simply to buy themselves a bad boy reputation. Then they take riding lessons, buy a ton of unnecessary extra gear, and eventually many of them end up crashing. Seen it happen many times. People don't seem to understand the concept of learning incrementally on a smaller, easier to handle bike. The point is... ride what you like (or love), as long as you can safely handle it.
@cmaine6254
@cmaine6254 Жыл бұрын
This is the finest explanation of what harley's are!!!!! How they work and why they do what they do at idle..... Thank You!!!!
@jamespolucha6911
@jamespolucha6911 Жыл бұрын
I always rode Harley-Davidson but the older I get I want comfort and reliability so I started to checkout other brands and I can’t believe what I’ve been missing, so many great bikes out there and seems like my rides are going farther now days even going Coast to Coast once a year , funny how things work out when you take the blinders off I’m enjoying riding so much more not having to worry about my bike
@chokdeesam2365
@chokdeesam2365 Жыл бұрын
What is your motorcycle model my friend ? i understand your feeling
@tankbulldogge8639
@tankbulldogge8639 Жыл бұрын
Still have my HD FXRS-SP but as I got older I got a Triumph Tiger 1050. Love it
@xrv404
@xrv404 Жыл бұрын
Nice nice. What kind of bikes do you own now sir?
@traxxasrcfun
@traxxasrcfun Жыл бұрын
Lots of evo Harley engines will run 100k miles without much of a fuss. Reliability isn’t much of an issue
@guamazolopez6456
@guamazolopez6456 Жыл бұрын
weird, usually people switch to harley the older they get
@haggus71
@haggus71 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not also forget: at the same time the Davidsons bought back Harley, they also lobbied Reagan for a 45% tariff on all imported motorcycles over 700cc, hurting any cruiser competition they may have had from the Japanese.
@SoloPilot6
@SoloPilot6 2 жыл бұрын
. . .which is why my Goldwing was built in Ohio.
@woodrick88
@woodrick88 2 жыл бұрын
Which is where the Kawsaki vn700 Vulcan came from. I had one of these. Rode great, handled great, didn't break down with lousy weather (Wales GB). Loved it.
@gfunk63901
@gfunk63901 2 жыл бұрын
Republicans are all about fair competition and survival of the fittest unless they make a shitty product and need the competition hobbled. Then they’ll talk about how we built up their industry after we nuked them because we’re good Christian people
@119topdawg
@119topdawg 2 жыл бұрын
But of course most metric cruisers are actually built in the US…
@shivamgupta1412
@shivamgupta1412 2 жыл бұрын
So much for being a symbolism of America, ironically too at the height of the cold war when the US was supposedly championing capitalism and free market economy🤣
@cameronhall5134
@cameronhall5134 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I used to own a FXDL, and I never knew about the “dyna death wobble” 😱 All I know is it rode like a sports bike compared to my friends Fatboy. I had more fun on my Dyna than I ever did on my Honda CBR. Loved it.
@peanutaxis
@peanutaxis Жыл бұрын
This is THE BEST channel on youtube. Content, writing, presenter, video construction... And i don't even have a motorcycle licence.
@feliped4608
@feliped4608 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for converting American football fields per eagles of freedom to metric, I appreciate it a lot!!
@TheHortond
@TheHortond 2 жыл бұрын
There are 2 types of people. Those that use the metric system and those that have been to the moon.
@jordanpost1876
@jordanpost1876 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHortond You do know the guy that send the USA to the moon was actually a German using metric? He despiced the imperial system and all the dimensions were converted from metric to imperial only so it could be build in the USA?
@FrogOf4Chan
@FrogOf4Chan 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanpost1876 Plenty of Americans have no idea that following the end of WW2 the head of NASA was legitimately a uniformed Nazi that we hired on to lead our space and rocket agency... But yeah, muricah!
@philipmarr7325
@philipmarr7325 2 жыл бұрын
They talked about this on Archer years ago.
@CurtDegree
@CurtDegree 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipmarr7325 What’s saddest is that most Americans who know about this, only know about it BECAUSE of a cartoon. … Really goes to show you how far our education system has fallen.
@PiXimperfect
@PiXimperfect 2 жыл бұрын
Crap! Now my impulse mind is confused. Should I or should I not buy a Harley? lol. Brilliant documentary FortNine!
@arsyabelrabbany6570
@arsyabelrabbany6570 2 жыл бұрын
dont
@nickd698
@nickd698 2 жыл бұрын
no
@ramecodiesel8271
@ramecodiesel8271 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned a Harley Davidson, they are nothing special, Harley Davidson sells a phony image, I traded in my Harley Davidson for a Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental and the Yamaha is a superior motorcycle, this comes from someone who has owned Kawasaki, Honda, Victory, Harley Davidson and Yamaha. Of all the brands I have owned the Harley Davison I would rank last.
@embracethesuck1041
@embracethesuck1041 2 жыл бұрын
"Probably not, but you can understand why someone might" seems to be the theme, here.
@fredoswego
@fredoswego 2 жыл бұрын
at the very least, don't buy a dyna glide
@fightingforfaith3541
@fightingforfaith3541 Жыл бұрын
I never knew that about the twin rear shocks being an out of balance force due to inequity. It makes sense then that as shocks wear, they will inherently become more unbalanced, making the bike more likely to fishtail like the poor buy in the video. Hence, the monoshock, like on my Star Venture. Thank you FN.
@Chris-rg4jx
@Chris-rg4jx Жыл бұрын
Wow, I am sitting here stunned at the quality of this video and its educational content. Well done my man, well done!
@FortNine
@FortNine 2 жыл бұрын
Pssst.... Harley ... Will you lend me a Pan America now? ~RF9
@user-dt5fk4cs9j
@user-dt5fk4cs9j 2 жыл бұрын
no
@stephanematis
@stephanematis 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dt5fk4cs9j Ouch.
@tf3240
@tf3240 2 жыл бұрын
C'mon Harley send Ryan a Pan America!
@depush
@depush 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dt5fk4cs9j ... all bluster, like their customers ...
@pavelpolechtchouk9829
@pavelpolechtchouk9829 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that mate
@pablod6872
@pablod6872 2 жыл бұрын
I never considered buying a Dyna before, and after watching this I definitely never will. Although I was really hoping that one rider would recover after doing a 360 degree death wobble. That would've been something.
@Doobie603
@Doobie603 2 жыл бұрын
I have never had any "death wobble" I can just about guarantee you the motor mounts on those bikes were TRASHED. If you are worried about it though you can spend a couple bucks like $400 max and get those upgraded mounts and then you can be sure it will not do it. But seriously I have riden the damn wheels off my Street Bob and my fathers Switchback even driving like a complete A-Hole I could not get them to wobble.
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 2 жыл бұрын
It was a glamorous dance...until it wasn't.! 😁
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doobie603 the anomaly. 👍🏼
@kengoodrich9027
@kengoodrich9027 2 жыл бұрын
FortNine's explanation of swingarm twist has me all worried about my BMW's single-side swing arm!
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgomez3047 Yeah, I was really pulling for him! I thought for half a second he might do it, then I sadly realized that he’d crossed the event horizon, so to speak..😬
@scott02127
@scott02127 Жыл бұрын
What I like about your channel is that you give the why.
@ericsorrell6170
@ericsorrell6170 Ай бұрын
Just watched, and must say , well done. Great perspective and well executed. Well done!!
@agerard5703
@agerard5703 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not even a Harley guy but this was probably the best motorcycle video I have ever seen! Entertaining, informative, technical and well produced... Excellent work!
@martinloney6322
@martinloney6322 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. There’s a Harley in our household and I now have a better appreciation of it!
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet you're going out and buying one based on this video. Good luck!
@RayBrach
@RayBrach 2 жыл бұрын
For sure! This video sent chills down my spine and brought tears to my eyes. Your hard work is appreciated. Keep it up!
@rogerwattenhofer
@rogerwattenhofer Жыл бұрын
I'm not even a motorcycle guy... but this channel lives up to top gear in its best years...
@RustyStator
@RustyStator Жыл бұрын
I am in the market for my first motorcycle, and just about every hardcore Harley fan has told me to avoid buying a Harley if I want to ride it more than wrench on it. Basically the overall consensus is Harley post 2010 is cheaply made and over priced. I still want one though....😂
@bennytuomolin4416
@bennytuomolin4416 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had three Harleys, last one a Road King Classic. Then I switched to an Indian Scout, and last year traded it in for a Rebel 1100 DCT. I like them all! It’s not what you drive, the main thing is you drive! Been riding since 1970.
@thelakeman5207
@thelakeman5207 2 жыл бұрын
Ride for the love of riding, not for the image.
@jimputnam2044
@jimputnam2044 2 жыл бұрын
I too have owned bikes since late 60s. When Willy D said that famous quote he was sitting at a bar with some friends and they were debating weather to ask some fat ugly chicks to join them. True story.
@michaelscott356
@michaelscott356 2 жыл бұрын
I highly DOUBT it's a true story,@@jimputnam2044 , especially considering you couldn't even get Willy's name right!
@jimputnam2044
@jimputnam2044 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelscott356 Can't swear to true story was not there. Read it in a Harley history book I bought at the Harley Museum. Was a couple pages of" fun little known facts". How do you spell Willy?
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 2 жыл бұрын
But the main thing is you evolved...you grew a brain congratulations
@paulb1383
@paulb1383 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! And your channel as well 💯 Gave me a new respect and outlook on Harleys! 👏
@RickRose
@RickRose 7 ай бұрын
I read a bunch of the pro/con Harley posts below and got bored. Thanks for the coolest breakdown of the distinctive engine design, and the resulting sound and vibration, I've yet seen. Also, as a part-time video hacker, your production quality continues to leave me agog. Y'all rock.
@totocall1999
@totocall1999 2 жыл бұрын
“It makes your butt feel nice.” Truer words were never spoken! Lol And I don’t even like MoCo bikes.
@phillip2169
@phillip2169 2 жыл бұрын
@meow purr wouldn't the answer be go find people who accept you for whatever bike you own? I rather ride my grom with other people who like it than force myself to get a Harley to fit in. If I want an HD, and any other bike, I want it for me, the friends will follow
@PrimoStracciatella
@PrimoStracciatella 2 жыл бұрын
My '79 XS650 also made my butt feel nice... :)
@TheHeroicNinja
@TheHeroicNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Moco means booger in spanish
@jamesheron2034
@jamesheron2034 2 жыл бұрын
I don`t object to Harleys, I object to Harley Riders.
@tnhunts2759
@tnhunts2759 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillip2169 100%. Its funny, Im just outside the Mecca of HD (Milwaukee) and most of my friends and family are metric fans. I love my Harley, I just dont like the culture that surrounds their riding community.
@peterjensen6844
@peterjensen6844 2 жыл бұрын
This video is the distilled essence of Ryan F9. Art History. Physics. Snarky commentary. Sex Toy jokes. It's all there!
@dadassery8506
@dadassery8506 Ай бұрын
5:12 this is what I didn’t know but have understood for years. You really feel like the machine is taking you somewhere as much as you’re taking it somewhere, and it’s beautiful.
@PatNetherlander
@PatNetherlander Жыл бұрын
Great vid Ryan! I’ve never much cared to own a HD, but I do like their style and sound.
@redbynight
@redbynight 2 жыл бұрын
OK. The Fat Boy origin story blew my mind a little!
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but no. It is sorta a fat bike, so it could just have been named for its thicker lines.
@TheImtoomuch
@TheImtoomuch 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a true story.
@edman79
@edman79 2 жыл бұрын
It blew Nagasaki a lot
@proof4469
@proof4469 2 жыл бұрын
Well Harley's mortal enemy were always the Japanese companies, so it does make sense if true.
@lrt19
@lrt19 2 жыл бұрын
Pure urban legend only. "The name is said to come from the bike's "massive presence.” " - Wikipedia
@juststeve5542
@juststeve5542 2 жыл бұрын
My father used to call Harley's "Quivering masses of antiquity", whilst cleaning his 1950s AJS 500 single.
@bnolsen
@bnolsen 2 жыл бұрын
And my dad's first bike was a 1950's harley which caused him to never buy a harley ever again.
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 2 жыл бұрын
The Pyramids and the Pantheon are both antique, but one is twice as old as the other.
@littlefish5493
@littlefish5493 2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday's technology for tomorrow's price.
@alkzavaleta7876
@alkzavaleta7876 2 жыл бұрын
Allow me to steal your genius comment
@gasdive
@gasdive 2 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, I have no idea why anyone would buy a Harley when there are Royal Enfield available for 1/4 the price that actually offer a genuine 1930's motoring experience. And a good example of the 1930's, rather than a bad example.
@AhkadamaMashiach
@AhkadamaMashiach 11 ай бұрын
This video helped me decide HD over Indian when I purchased my first bike 👌🏽
@mattf8595
@mattf8595 3 ай бұрын
Your videos are outstanding. Very well thought out, interesting and entertaining. Well done my friend.
@rourkebuechel
@rourkebuechel 2 жыл бұрын
For a moment there, an extremely brief moment, I almost thought "you know, Ryan has a point, maybe I could see myself owning a Harley"... But then I remembered the times I've ridden them and experienced the extremely underwhelming power, or the other times when I've been annoyed with the sound, or the times I've watched them leak oil idling in a parking lot, or the other times where I realized I like to wear a full face helmet and not look out of place, and that I don't like wearing ass-less chaps. You almost got me Ryan, almost. Great video as always!
@A_Ride_To
@A_Ride_To 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any „non-ass-less chaps“ tho?
@cwroberts79
@cwroberts79 2 жыл бұрын
Always said I’d never own a Harley… then the pan America dropped. I bought that sucker sight unseen. I’ve never loved a bike more.
@666t
@666t 2 жыл бұрын
They would be leather pants then, and its pronounced shaps like champagne, chauffeur, chaperone and chaparral, where the name comes from
@StewartHiggins
@StewartHiggins 2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely wear a full face, but it's gotta be Biltwell or Simpson.
@DefZen343
@DefZen343 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you should try a 1200 sportster, But then the typical Harley guys will say it's a ladys bike 🤕😹😹😹 only bikes harley makes id buy are the sportster1200 and the PanAm 😹 A Half sized PanAm to compete with the Tanere700 would be awesome 😻
@jonr4651
@jonr4651 2 жыл бұрын
One of the hardest decisions of my life was coming out to my friends and admitting that I bought a Harley Davidson. Now I'm proud to admit how nice it makes my butt feel.
@schafer240
@schafer240 2 жыл бұрын
And that you don't have to shell out money for a vibrator..
@Ritalie
@Ritalie 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the Pacific Northwest in WA. I can't tell anyone that I don't ride a Harley. People only know about Harley's here. There's always a feeling of discomfort when I tell them I ride a sportbike. I can buy 3 sportbikes for cost of a used Harley.
@davec.3198
@davec.3198 2 жыл бұрын
And now you don't have to deny being gay. They just know it.
@michaellehto1697
@michaellehto1697 2 жыл бұрын
My ass is way too boney for a harley. My pelvis would disintegrate.
@geekverve
@geekverve 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellehto1697 Not at all. They're some of the most comfortable bikes made. Take it from someone in his 50's who's lost enough of his butt to make sitting on bleachers for more than ten minutes feel like torture.
@user-um4ox3vj8n
@user-um4ox3vj8n 2 ай бұрын
What a lovely videos from this channel, scene, sound & teller are amazing
@guyconnell2250
@guyconnell2250 2 жыл бұрын
"the weight and road stability of a halftrack" LOL
@ryanmounce2850
@ryanmounce2850 2 жыл бұрын
Man I'd love a half-track! Wouldn't love the mpg though. Lol
@dalel3608
@dalel3608 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmounce2850 Or the maintenance.
@davidcrooks1752
@davidcrooks1752 2 жыл бұрын
In HD's defence it wouldn't be a full size half track 👍
@ryanmounce2850
@ryanmounce2850 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalel3608 oof. Hell no. I barely manage to keep my "normal" engines running. No telling how bad I could mess up that behemoth! Lol
@spiritriderjk
@spiritriderjk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for consistently tackling hard to explain/talk about subjects in the motorcycle world. Whenever my buddies and I have these kinds of discussions, I can point them to your videos. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
@darkone9572
@darkone9572 Жыл бұрын
Good call on cello suite 1 from Bach ! Keep the classics a rolling my man, well played !
@pengain4
@pengain4 7 ай бұрын
This channel is a pure gold
@johnardy3112
@johnardy3112 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan - this video along with a few others are sincerely works of art. There's poetry in what you're doing. Everyone else with motorcycle videos - especially some of the more prominent fellows - needs to take a step back and recognize the GOAT resides in Vancouver.
@gracoellobero3411
@gracoellobero3411 2 жыл бұрын
There's clearly some top gear influence in his style.
@user-gq2vn1xj2r
@user-gq2vn1xj2r 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are on one end of the spectrum. At the other end lies "Yammie Noob" Plenty in between too, but Ryan's videos are the pinnacle.
@dangrimes5078
@dangrimes5078 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing. Has to be one of the best channels on KZfaq whether or not you care about motorcycles.
@ARP1714
@ARP1714 2 жыл бұрын
What I understood from this awesome review was that Harley tries to solve problems by implementing solutions that cause their own problems without really addressing the original problem they were initially supposed to solve.
@Edhooey
@Edhooey 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Harley guy (although I have owned two Buell XB's and absolutely loved them), but I do think their way of using crude yet simple ways of taking a problem you couldn't live with and reengineering it into a problem you can live with, is actually pretty clever in its own way. My beef with HD's isn't so much the bikes (even if they do seem a bit overpriced for what they are), but rather the attitudes of SOME of the riders. After enough HD guys look your Japanese or European dual sport up and down, scoff, mumble something about "American made," and then ask when you're going to step up to a "real" motorcycle, it begins to get a bit obnoxious. Something similar can be said for SOME BMW riders too... And to be fair, the vast majority of HD guys (and Beemer guys) IMHO are wonderful chaps who are all just in it for the love of the ride...
@embe1
@embe1 2 жыл бұрын
Like beer!!
@jamesbottger5894
@jamesbottger5894 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edhooey You mean like the way Harley deals with their overheating engines? Instead of making them liquid cooled, which would solve the problem, they install a device that shuts down a cylinder when the engine overheats...brilliant!
@Edhooey
@Edhooey 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbottger5894 Now that...yeah, that DOES seem more than a bit asinine haha!
@DobermansRock
@DobermansRock 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbottger5894 I've riden my TC in the hotest weather in AZ no problems. Ever hear of a oil cooler? Every engine is cooled by oil so cooling the oil makes a lot of sense. Or did I miss something?
@joeblow3905
@joeblow3905 Жыл бұрын
They don't know no better?
@rottweilerfun9520
@rottweilerfun9520 28 күн бұрын
I love how we always get some science on this channel. I appreciate it !
@KSMotoCafe
@KSMotoCafe 2 жыл бұрын
as an engineer, I always appreciate Ryan F9's background calculations.
@SavedbyHim
@SavedbyHim 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know someone is an engineer?
@KSMotoCafe
@KSMotoCafe 2 жыл бұрын
@@SavedbyHim 🤣 I walked into that one. In Canada we go a step further by wearing an Iron ring on our pinky!
@SavedbyHim
@SavedbyHim 2 жыл бұрын
@@KSMotoCafe Really? never heard of that. I'm an electronic tech. I do all the Engineer's dirty jobs ;)
@TimeBucks
@TimeBucks 2 жыл бұрын
Great review
@joem13yearsago73
@joem13yearsago73 2 жыл бұрын
Ty
@twentyrothmans7308
@twentyrothmans7308 6 ай бұрын
I've never owned one, but they get your attention. It's a good thing to have on a motorcycle. Excellent presentation.
@loukagennies9579
@loukagennies9579 10 ай бұрын
HI from France, I love your video and watch a lot of it and like it all, keep it doing !!
@nickabrahall1412
@nickabrahall1412 2 жыл бұрын
Watching Fortnine is the only time I wish a KZfaq video was longer Fantastic explanation of Harley Motocycles
@garypaisley
@garypaisley 2 жыл бұрын
Demonstrating that even with fuel injection you can simulate mis-firing at idle, making it H-D compliant
@johnraconteur1723
@johnraconteur1723 2 жыл бұрын
I get that this is a joke, but is that really what a misfire sounds like on a v-twin that isn't a single pin crank? I seriously don't know. I had a duel pin crank Honda vtwin but it never misfired.
@Ritalie
@Ritalie 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the single pin crank Harley air cooled engine sound. I have always ridden 4 cylinder street bikes, and I hate the modern liquid cooled V-Twins. But the air cooled Harley bikes sound so incredible. The idle is perhaps the nicest, most soothing sound, of any engine in the world.
@johnraconteur1723
@johnraconteur1723 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ritalie Straight 4 motors are a blast to ride ride on weekends or afternoons, like joy riding. But I will always prefer an air cooled vtwin with a single pin crank for my daily riding. 12k rpm on a 4 is just unpleasant to hear for long sustained speeds like when I some times do 2 hour commutes to another city, and I don't like the feeling of needing to rev up to access power when I am in traffic. On a v-twin you can pop the clutch and have its full power before 3k rpm. Thumbs up to air cooled twins having a hypnotic sound. I really enjoy the bit of orderly valve clatter, likr a jar of nickles and dimes shaking in perfect time.
@stephenbingham5935
@stephenbingham5935 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnraconteur1723 Very good, I totally agree. My Sportster says the same to me. I have always loved tractive engines over revving stuff. Which is why I reckon the VW Beetle is the car equivalent.
@blairsimpkins3505
@blairsimpkins3505 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnraconteur1723 Sportsters sound the best because they still use the gear-driven Evo engine that can idle at 500 rpm. Valves clacking, gears wining and chains whirring.
@time_of_yer_life_eh_kid
@time_of_yer_life_eh_kid 8 ай бұрын
never understood the appeal of a lack of performance, lack of technology, and premium prices. Why support a company that does nothing to move forward and provide a better product?
@whatyoumakeofit6635
@whatyoumakeofit6635 2 ай бұрын
There's something to be did about " not moving forward". That's something I've never understood, "new is better".
@davidmiller6045
@davidmiller6045 2 ай бұрын
CW: boomer take. "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand"
@USA_Law
@USA_Law 12 күн бұрын
What a clever and enthusiastic young man.
@Insirtnamehear
@Insirtnamehear 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, using TF2 Soldier's voice line vastly deepens my respect for you
@elken4289
@elken4289 2 жыл бұрын
When was that?
@XD3blaze
@XD3blaze 2 жыл бұрын
@@elken4289 8:59 Made the video 10x better for me
@hollyjolly9258
@hollyjolly9258 2 жыл бұрын
This made my day
@Insirtnamehear
@Insirtnamehear 2 жыл бұрын
@@elken4289 8:59
@Baleur
@Baleur 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they considered themselves having "beaten" japanese bikes by selling more, when said japanese bikes had tarriffs so high they cost double what they were actually meant to cost. Imagine if harleys cost twice as much for no reason, lets see them fight their way out of bancrupcy then. If you didnt win on an even playing field, you didnt win.
@K113-A
@K113-A 2 жыл бұрын
This happens in Indonesia. Where a simple soft tail would cost over $70.000 the same as a Ninja H2
@YouTenaza
@YouTenaza 2 жыл бұрын
This happens in Europe too. They are so expensive, only hardcore fanboys (i mean... true men... ofc) buy them.
@HighGear7445
@HighGear7445 2 жыл бұрын
The Japanese were dumping meaning selling below cost. Here's a for instance. I bought a 1983 Goldwing brand new in 1985 .Honda tried flooding the market back then. They released the unsold 1983's in 1985...considered a new bike with new warranty. Bike originally listed for $4800 . I bought it in 85 for $3600 The 83 bikes came out in the fall of 82 like they all do. It was obvious they were dumping to ruin the market for anyone else. 1983 is when the 45% tarriffs took effect April 1st 1983 I would imagine my $3600 price included the tariff so Honda really took a bath trying to flood the market.
@demonicbeethoven
@demonicbeethoven 2 жыл бұрын
@@YouTenaza Depends on the country. In some, they pretty much cost the same.
@snakebite6511
@snakebite6511 2 жыл бұрын
what the hell is bancrupcy? Bankruptcy?
@andreasdelsing6764
@andreasdelsing6764 Жыл бұрын
Damn this is brilliant, great content, very informative and objective. I used to hate Harley's (seemed just heavy inefficient bikes) but now I got atleast to try one.
@1995Focus
@1995Focus Жыл бұрын
Never been a Harley fan at all but seeing the video and hearing about them makes me wanna buy a dyna as well haha the exact model of the video is a beauty
@mattguzzim1744
@mattguzzim1744 2 жыл бұрын
The death wobble finally explained! And one of the best videos you've ever made. Two thumbs up!
@nycLPplayer
@nycLPplayer 2 жыл бұрын
touring link solves it but without it tar snakes are spookey
@omarsalgado9715
@omarsalgado9715 2 жыл бұрын
Wobbles have a multitude of reasons: tire inflation, suspension, unbalanced wheels (spoke ones), rake and trail, bearings, tire alignment, road condition, etc., and, of course but never spoken, pilot, through rigid arms that don't let direction accommodate it's course, so amplifying the very harmonics of the wobble. In the end, it is hardly a H-D problem; virtually any bike can be subject to wobbles.
@billwilson3609
@billwilson3609 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with neighbors that rode old BMW's and Harley's daily to work year round then with a kid on the back for weekend camping trips. In late 1973 I was 19 and in shock over the sudden rise of gas prices ($.32 to $.53 per gallon) so visited our city's well established H-D dealer Harry Molenaar (AKA The Flying Dutchman) to see if he had any old used cop 45 flatheads in stock. He didn't and told me that H-D's weren't worth a flip after being acquired by AMF so would be better off buying a new BMW to have something that would be reliable and ignored by thieves since so few people ride them. So I bought a new '73 R75/5 and still ride it today. Molenaar was an independent H-D dealer that could buy as many or as few new H-D's each year as he wanted since 1934 plus could go thru their warehouse in Milwaukee to load up on old discontinued parts. Restorers would call Milwaukee for parts and color codes/combinations and be directed to contact Molenaar since he was the only one that had the parts and the information they needed. Molenaar's was the oldest H-D dealership in the World in 1991 when Harley corporate decided to stop selling new bikes and parts to Harry after he refused to remodel his ancient store with wood floors and no ceiling into H-D's preferred modern style with tons of glass and chrome. If those fools had any sense, they would've used Harry, his store and history with H-D in their advertising since his showroom floor also served as a museum with plenty of new old models, the factory racers that Harry rode and a midget racer that was powered by the H-D flat twin made for WW2.
@abdulazizsaleh9567
@abdulazizsaleh9567 Жыл бұрын
Very nice Story...thank you for Sharing it 🙂👌🏻🇸🇦
@wiscgaloot
@wiscgaloot Жыл бұрын
I rode that exact same bike, a '73 R75/5 from about 1985 to 1993. A fantastic motorcycle, easy to work on, and very fun to ride. Eventually bought an '88 R100GS Bumblebeemer, which I still ride at age 60.
@billwilson3609
@billwilson3609 Жыл бұрын
@@wiscgaloot One can still buy replacement parts for those since so many are still on the road. There's owners that are pulling out their /5's from barns where they sat for the last 30 years and got them running after cleaning the carbs, changing the oil and putting fresh gas in the tank. Then they do an Aggie overhaul (wash, wax and polish) before selling it for $4000 to $5000.
@wiscgaloot
@wiscgaloot Жыл бұрын
@@billwilson3609 You can still get parts? What's crazy is about 8 years ago I took my '88 R100GS to San Jose BMW and they refused to quote a tune-up, that the owner would call me. Which he never did, then he whined and complained at me after I left a 1-star review on Yelp. My only gripe about that /5 was that the electric starter was weak, I often had to kick start it.
@billwilson3609
@billwilson3609 Жыл бұрын
@@wiscgaloot Yep. Parts are available online from independent shops and big dealers like MAX BMW in New England. If they don't have it then owners buy from shops like Motobins in Great Britain and Uli's in Switzerland. I've been buying parts from Capital Cycle since 1976. They were mail order with an 800 number to call in orders, see what they have in stock or get advice. They sent out an annual paper catalog then sales fliers each quarter with a list of discounted parts. I still have a store of new points, condensers, light bulbs, control cables, timing chain & gears and other stuff that I bought at discount. My last call was in 2000 to see what they had in back that was "blemished" new stock. That call got me a pair of new stainless steel silencers for $240 and new self adjusting Boge shocks (/7) for $29 each because their boxes were dirty and creased. The /5 starter motor is identical to the one used in VW Bugs so we took ours to a local starter/alternator shop to have serviced. They also could readjust a wonky voltage regulator and change out bad diodes in the diode board. The voltage regulator also is identical to the one used in VW's plus the larger VW 6 volt ignition coils will fit the holders and not rub against the gas tank. That was common knowledge with touring riders who could find those at K-Marts across the nation after the BMW shops had closed for the day. We bought our replacement bearings and seals at local bearing supply house. Most also sold the industrial cross bearing used in the driveshaft and could change them out for like $30 (parts and labor). Just needed to have the rear drive removed and the shaft tunnel cleaned of oil so it wouldn't run out onto their work bench. BMW used an unusual starter relay that made the starter button inoperable when the motor was running and prevented power from going to the starter solenoid when the battery had a low charge. You probably started using the kicker when you heard the relay clicking. My dealer showed a trick to prolong battery and starter life by using the cold weather starting procedure when the engine was cold or warmed up. You turn on the enrichers/choke then used the kicker until one side was on TDC before hitting the starter button. That drew in a rich mixture that ignited as soon as the button was pushed in. Doing that helped me to get 7 tears of use out of the small stock battery. My '73 was the later long wheel base model so moved the battery holders back against the fender so I could use a bigger battery for Goldwings and Electra-Glides. Did that after having to run on battery power after the charging system went haywire while riding back to Longview from Houston. Stopped at a full service gas station in Nacogdoches for gas and to see if they had any old battery cables and car batteries I could rig up to finish my ride home. They didn't so called friends with a truck to come fetch me. They arrived so got the bike loaded in back then went to a few bars to check out the college babes. Paid a cover charge to enter one since they had a band that night we never heard of before that blew us away. Turned out to be Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble before they hit the big time. Once home I checked the VR to find it was off so had it readjusted at our nearby starter/alt shop for the cost of a cold 6 pack of beer. I've heard strange things about BMW dealerships not wanting to work on the older bikes. One older man freaked out when a dealer in KC said they wanted $500 to schedule a tune-up with parts and labor added to that once done. He was steered to a 1%'er shop in Overland Park that did a major service that included a tune-up and CV adjustment for $230 while he watched.
@a.j.vonregensburg2498
@a.j.vonregensburg2498 Жыл бұрын
What a great vid time after time. Ryan you need your own cable tv show !!
@ThrottleThrill
@ThrottleThrill Жыл бұрын
What an excellent production! Thank you. Time to do a TV show, Ryan.
@5891jonathan
@5891jonathan 2 жыл бұрын
90% of all Harley-Davidson motorcycles sold are still on the road. The other 10% took their riders back home.
@carlcollins3705
@carlcollins3705 2 жыл бұрын
I think if a Harly detractor ever came up with an original thought, I'd just pass out. You idiots haven't the brains to express yourself so you settle for worn out, silly assed one liners.
@ronbatt756
@ronbatt756 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment Jonathan! LOL
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 2 жыл бұрын
that explains why i dont see any harleys for sale as a project bike. they all crashed and been scrapped.
@oliviersavard8676
@oliviersavard8676 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlcollins3705 maybe it's because the one-liners keep being relevant lmao
@jonr4651
@jonr4651 2 жыл бұрын
This one always makes me think that the 90% just went full easy rider and never went home. But the point is to mud sling, which is a practice I don’t really understand.
@akfernandez4732
@akfernandez4732 2 жыл бұрын
F9 releases a video about HD dying* Me: Ugh, I hate harleys F9 releases a video saying HD are great Me: Ugh, I love harleys
@CitarNosis317
@CitarNosis317 2 жыл бұрын
This lol.
@thesebas3090
@thesebas3090 2 жыл бұрын
I love Harleys, but i hate Harley
@RutgerSmets
@RutgerSmets 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesebas3090 That's the correct attitude in my opinion.
@winteronice
@winteronice 2 жыл бұрын
Strongly agree!
@FortNine
@FortNine 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesebas3090 Yup, sums up my feelings exactly. ~RF9
@richardsteele6776
@richardsteele6776 Жыл бұрын
As always your videos educate and entertain. I’ve owned a lot of motorcycles but never a Harley. Currently I am enjoying a Yamaha TW200. Yea it’s small and slow but it’s also very fun.
@mrbear143
@mrbear143 7 ай бұрын
I remember my friend buying the Screaming Eagle V-Rod. He was so excited about it- couple months later he was riding a Ducati. Evidently the V-Rod was riddled with problems including vibrations so bad it sheared off the bolts holding the exhaust which fell off during a ride.
@LordVladimort
@LordVladimort 2 жыл бұрын
HD: "But we're poor, so let's cut costs on design." Also HD: "Starting at $20,559"
@chris76.
@chris76. 2 жыл бұрын
DESIGN AND TECHNOLOGY OF 1960 , but . . .prices of 2021 ! well done Harley ! lol
@MegaSuperCritic
@MegaSuperCritic 2 жыл бұрын
The company was born in a shed!
@mikedineen7857
@mikedineen7857 2 жыл бұрын
They are all over priced
@PEGuyMadison
@PEGuyMadison 2 жыл бұрын
A 2021 low rider starts at $14000 not $20559... all bikes worth buying are overpriced at this time.
@LordVladimort
@LordVladimort 2 жыл бұрын
@@PEGuyMadison Canadian...
@stephenbone9929
@stephenbone9929 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved motorcycles, dirt and street bikes but, then I got married and had children(23). After the kids were grown I got a strong urge to get a Harley and get back into motorcycling. I didn't buy one until the wife softened up on the idea because I was on blood thinners now. I finally bought one when I retired at 61! (2012 Wide Glide 103). My advice, buy one now or as soon as possible and START LIVING!! You will love it!
@herosdiaz8757
@herosdiaz8757 2 жыл бұрын
Buy a bike, never get married, end the bloodline. SIR YES SIR XD
@BikingChap
@BikingChap Жыл бұрын
The challenge they've had, of course, is that younger generations aren't misty eyed enough to continue to buy the bikes in the volume the brand has been accustomed to. This of course gives them a dilemma in whether to keep pushing the old agenda or to completely break from the past and push a completely new brand with new models like the Pan America and even the LiveWire. Interesting times.
@Prosecute-fauci
@Prosecute-fauci 11 ай бұрын
The younger generations are saddled with a bunch of student loan debt for useless degrees. They don’t have the disposable income to spend on a $20,000+ harley. To be honest it is their own fault, but the result is the same.
@yeejay6396
@yeejay6396 9 ай бұрын
​@@Prosecute-fauciI was happy to even get approved for my '22 Nightster. Felt that I was around the 560CS range. Turns out I'm closer to 600CS. But to tell you the truth. If Harley pulled the trigger on the Bronx, I'm sure it'd sell as well as the PAN Am/Sportster S/Nightster. But the seller feedback and headache of the Revo Max 975T platform is just... Yeah, Harley should've really thought this out, it's still an early platform.
@yeejay6396
@yeejay6396 9 ай бұрын
​@@Prosecute-fauciAlso, We may never see a time when Harley will be releasing a Sub-$10k option. Sportster/Nightster Revo Max line is $13k range. $15k if including Dealership fees.
@djmohab2
@djmohab2 8 ай бұрын
@@Prosecute-fauciand Harleys aren't worth half their price tag, you 40 IQ boomer
@hernandocortez6351
@hernandocortez6351 8 ай бұрын
The Buell was a step in the right direction. Too bad they killed it.
@jimthompson717
@jimthompson717 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2012 wide glide. I loved it. Currently on a 2022 r1250gs Rallye, with every available option. Love it equally.
@Andre-eo9io
@Andre-eo9io 2 жыл бұрын
Literally the most creative, informative & entertaining channel for bikes, hands down. Every creator on YT should take notes, you've got the Crabby Paddy formula mastered! 😤
@Andre-eo9io
@Andre-eo9io 2 жыл бұрын
@•••[S]EX-Vlog Go to My Channel A solution doesn't always need an answer, they provided an alternative in terms of design and function. This creation also has it's own 'issues,' but the consumer ultimately decides to choose one product over another for different reasons. Like the rotary engines introduction, wasn't meant to replace CDI engines, just an alternative, again with it's own issues (apex seal failure), but also with applications still produced & it's own community of support. Not all 'inventions' are direct solutions, but offer variance & growth, in most instances.
@ethanreimund2549
@ethanreimund2549 2 жыл бұрын
That's really weird I was just thinking "you know what sounds nice right now? A new Fortnine video." Your timing is impeccable
@alphawolf2993
@alphawolf2993 2 жыл бұрын
Fortnite? really?
@ethanreimund2549
@ethanreimund2549 2 жыл бұрын
@@alphawolf2993 thank you for pointing out autocorrect's misdeed kind sir
@drdoolittle5724
@drdoolittle5724 Жыл бұрын
This only just popped up today, sort of HD speed! I would venture, Your production must be in the top five of all YT productions!!
@kaylind5227
@kaylind5227 Жыл бұрын
Almost bought a Dyna, but after a test ride, decided to stick with my 1990 FXRS. And still have and ride it today. They did that rubber mounted frame right.
@kaylind5227
@kaylind5227 Жыл бұрын
Same bike, same year. Stroked to 89 inches. Been running strong for over 30 years. I don't think the Suzuki 450 I started on would still be.
@Me-fl9bq
@Me-fl9bq 2 жыл бұрын
Harleys....yesterday’s technology at tomorrow’s price
@snakebite6511
@snakebite6511 2 жыл бұрын
Are you that insecure about your purchase that it makes you feel better about whatever you purchased to put down Harley? Who cares what anyone rides, they are riding Indian, Honda, Yamaha, Harley, they are all fantastic bikes
@user-ki3tg5wr7b
@user-ki3tg5wr7b 2 жыл бұрын
that's why i buy used
@kkklover89
@kkklover89 2 жыл бұрын
Why do millions buy harley-davidson motorcycles? Because they're boomers.
@snakebite6511
@snakebite6511 2 жыл бұрын
@@kkklover89 i'm not a boomer and i just purchased a 2021 Street Glide.
@davidlake7141
@davidlake7141 2 жыл бұрын
Harley-Davidson’s tech on their new bikes are just as good if not better than any cruiser on the market
@rmr5044
@rmr5044 2 жыл бұрын
When a motorcycle sounds like Meshuggah's "Bleed", that's where it's at.
@SMTahmid
@SMTahmid 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot about that song for a while, thanks for reminding!
@coolhandchunk
@coolhandchunk 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer mine to sound like Primus "Winonas big brown beaver".....WeeeeeeeeWeWeWeeeWeeeWeee
@admiralrng6506
@admiralrng6506 2 жыл бұрын
or sounding like the intro of Hot For Teacher by Van Halen
@BRedFilms
@BRedFilms 2 жыл бұрын
this man gets it...
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