Football in Asia

How fan owned clubs can change football

Diego Simeone’s impact at Atléti.

What will happen to super league clubs?

I'm absolutely pro-CFG and anti-Redbull 1 single yet decisive difference, CFG is based around/originated from "football" but Redbull is based around/ originated from "Soccer" CFG approaches the fanbase side of football totally differently. CFG uses the mentioned "City" brand model. Each club has its original City mentioned in the "City City" pattern, which maintains or gives a "patriotic" appealability to each club in order to increase the fanbase or national interest in football; whereas the Redbull model uses the sport and the fanbase to increase their brand value. SUPER important difference, summarized in 2 terms. Football approach vs Soccer approach

Lol noticed it

I’ll chip in with a quid

WTF! But what.. for?

Bold

There is an M after the 3 figures🤣

I just assumed they were a part of it when they first appeared. Especially when they started looking like serious title contenders a few years back.

​@@Shandakainah Khoza fought that tooth and nail Coz he didn't want other BIG team to emerge and challenge the SOWETO clubs

​@@uviweboyana8936 Wow, What's your source bro?

Mel Morris has done very well, just didn't get promoted when you should of, now he's dying unfortunately.

Will you be okay with Derby City?

@@markn7519 not a name change but the funding yes please

@@markn7519 at least it sounds vetter than Red Bull Derby...that sounds like a rodeo or monster truck television program in Texas.

The first supporter ownership football club that promoted to Football League is AFC Wimbledon. The club that created by Wimbledon FC supporters after FA allowed the relocation of Wimbledon FC to Milton Keynes

Not gonna work these days

@@r3zaful fan ownership is basically fans getting 51 percent of the voting rights not 51% of the shares as many people think. So if a fan ownership model was mandatory I think it would definitely be realistic that it could be implemented.

@@Colin-ut6cm thats bundesliga system, and its completely monopolized by munich, and dormund repeatedly gone into financial trouble. Good on paper, but practically unstable these days.

@@r3zaful if you have the epl system of equal share in TV money then the Bundesliga would easily be the best competition. The CL ruined the Bundesliga in my opinion.

And it was Giampaolo who sold Granada and formerly owned them. Not Gino. But again we saw the benefits of that sale because they’re a family.

Is this even legal? How is it allowed that a club like Watford has an owner and another club (Udinese) that has the same owner?? What happens if they play each other in, e.g., EL or CL theoretically? Who let's whom win? This cannot be real can it

That's been happening in Mexican football way before Europe

If im not mistaking, i think the owner of Vitesse is a close friend of Roman Abramovich

@@ImSlazher Yip , Vitesse owner is a close friend of Roman

Jamshedpur with Atletico Madrid

Not to mention City style of poaching South American talent and then loan it out to their other club.. I think City 2nd Keeper Zack Steffan is like that, got buy from Colombus Fc and then got loan to New Yorm City FC

@@MeazurAli Funny thing is that former Melbourne City FC star Bruno Fornaroli is actually Uruguayan and now they have another Uruguayan there in Adrian Luna. They could easily come to play there but instead the club has chosen to gather from the local league and form their own academy which I think its fantastic.

They also invested heavily in Torque's training ground and now its arguably the best in South America. They'll get top players for having warm showers alone. I saw the video, its like a copy of the CFA in manchester

@@FarhanKhan-hr2wo Its much more than that, they actually reinvented the club. Even by winning the Uruguayan championship time and time again and Copa Libertadores a couple of times as well, It would've taken them decades to imrpove their facilties to be even remotely close to what they are now. Even tho the posibilities are limitless and for sure it is the most advanced in Uruguay, I wouldn't say that it is the most advanced in South America however, as the difference in wealth between our league and say the Brazilian league are seemingly insurmountable, 35 times smaller in fact. But as far as Uruguay goes, they blew the rest out of the park. The difference is simply astronomical. Peñarol has been investing since 2008 and Nacional since 2003, and Torque outdid them both, and they did so in just two years. IE It took Peñarol nearly four years (from 2008 to 2011) to open a proper high performance center, Torque is expected to open theirs (which is even better and more complete) in just five months. They also made a truly groundbreaking never before seen revolutionary move to gather 40 million USD to build their own stadium within four years (2012 to 2016), and Nacional started renovating their stadium back in 2013 and they STILL haven't finished. Meanwhile City Group just bagged 30 million USD like it was nothing to expand some club in Bolivia which they don't even fully own. Like I said, for such a minuscule Uruguayan club as Torque, they've done some things that look like from another galaxy and nearly everything they've done so far is genious.

@@BurnRoddy As far as I know they cannot own clubs in brazil because of fan ownership rules, so expect Torque to be built as one of the better clubs in the continent. I fully expect the investment and growth to continue tbh.

@@marinusdejager41 its bad but clever idea

@@marinusdejager41 agreed

@@domarmstrong444 i mean king power did the same thing as well Oh leuven and Leicester city And they might add more

RB Leipzig won’t be crippled by Bayern immediately as RB football is similar to MNC

MK Dons? 'Cause the RB Racing HQ is in Milton Keynes

Red Bull’s Leicester

@@lchg6028 good answer. Mk are a rubbish club

Red Bull Hereford

As well as Leicester, what other clubs is in the Group, I know a Belgian club is owned by King Power, who else is in there???

It was always like that, the richer clubs win more often.

@@marpagapal3312 very true

What’s wrong with that? Rich people are rich because they spend their money wisely. Wealthy people are wealthy because they diverse their income. Poor people are poor because they waste money.

@@marpagapal3312 As they should.

correct you could built friendship with clubs and get easy meat ( players on loan) easy.

do u own union berlin?

as in are u one of the owners

@@mandarjoshi9490 no-one owns Union Berlin, that’s the point. Do you have voting right to decisions made in your club? If not then your a product consumer, not a football club member, in my humble opinion.

@@EisernRob fine👍🏼

lmao

Any caffeine overdose is lethal mate, you could od on coffee

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No, that’s because more money they can use to sign better players.

Long term thinking always

In my opinion it's a fundamental problem if an MLS club in NYC is seen as "another Man City". If you're trying to develop local pride, how are you going to attract United supporting New Yorkers to support an extension of Manchester City?

@@samos4924 thats the good part, they dont. One of the purpose for this except for player development is for market penetration (thats why some of the club they own is in far away, out of football capital area like South America & Europe). They do it so they can trample their rival in marketing, bring more fans for them in every corner of the world, and easily became a household names in the long-term. If they want to solely develop their young player, they will just buy club in around Europe & South America, where their football competition level is only 1-2 grade lower than their top level champion, not in India & USA, where its arguably 4-5 grade lower. Theres no use searching for talent there, the best talent in India is arguably worse than an average talent in Europe. And with that low level of football competition, its almost impossible to grow top level player there, they will just think its easy & become lazy. No competition there for them. They do it because they know it, sone of those clubs are for scouting & developing players (mainly Africa, South America, Europe, and maybe USA & Australia) and some of those are for market, popularity, & profit development (mainly Asia or even some Africa & USA).

For now? You have a problem with capitalism? You have a problem with rich people taking risks? Rich people take risks, some lose, others win. That’s capitalism, take risks. People take risks in investment, some make more, some lose. This ain’t no utopia where everyone wins. If a poor guy is too scared to take risks, then don’t complain why you’re still poor. In order to succeed, you need to take risks. And that means sometimes you will fail. And that’s ok. That’s part of success. If you don’t want to take risks because you’re scared of failure. Then don’t complain.

the redbull for you

Well Man United been looking great, their business is booming and their owner is still rich.

@@MeazurAli Manchester United was allready a big club before being bought. It was the biggest club in the world, the one with more fans worldwide, the favorite club in almost 50 countries... So the owner didn't improve United, they have won less titles and lost millions of fans since they arrived. But they don't inject money on the club, it's just an asset wich they hold while he valuates to sell later, not the same as other billionaires wich use football clubs as a hobby or as a legitimacy vehicle.

I mean, the CFG model is sustainable so far

Bayern may take Nargelsmann and Upamecano from Leipzig. But it won’t crippled the most hated club in Germany immediately as RB Leipzig could fill the vacancy by internal transfer of RB football clubs players through transfer market

lol

As a Real Madrid fan, fan ownership should be reinstored. Look how well it was for us. Multiclub ownership is a way of cheating and magnates only care about their top club, the others act as farms and labs.

Why so salty😂🤣😂

They are both corporate entities. One of them is also used to whitewash the image of the ownership. There's no difference.

​@@animeshkhare1769 I dunno but isn't it better to have a selfish billionaire own the club and look at it as an investment and keep their investment profitable rather like now that most of the clubs have to have 20 sponsors and TV deals just to keep up while most of the profit made off of this beautiful lifestyle goes directly to UEFA and FIFA; at least those billionaires in order to turn a profit for themselves they MUST keep the fans happy, players, staff.. all of the internal elements comes first; FIFA and UEFA are CANCERS; they are like medieval emperors; WHY Lewi was forced to play against Androa was it?? right there, like Pep said, the guy fought his azz off this season for Bayern and rest is history... Im a City Fan though :D Im not happy that he got injured I'm just happy we didn't play against Bayern

If Melburnians were interested in city pride they'd already be Melbourne Victory supporters or support one of the old NSL clubs from Melbourne. All well and good if Melbourne City were Melbourne's first AL club. As it is, there's no tribalism separating their identity from Victory's beyond City carrying the "City" brand and wearing an imitation of Man City's kit. Could be handy for a Man City fan in Victoria who's new to the A-league, great as long as you're winning titles, but hardly seems sustainable identity wise. Not to mention, CFG took away Melbourne Heart's "traditional" red and white as home colours.