Why NO ONE Plays: Ice Climbers | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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10 ай бұрынWidely regarded as one of the least played fighters in the game, for today's episode of Why NO ONE Plays, we'lll be featuring the Ice Climbers!
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@clutchthecinnamonsergal8493 10 ай бұрын
It's a sad life for the ice climbers…when they’re popping off its the biggest spectacle of the entire set but when they’re failing they’re fumbling around like a drunken penguin…
@roto-a3705 10 ай бұрын
Penguin? I know one penguin in particular
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 ай бұрын
Or even worse, a slippery slope seal.
@earthleyy1493 10 ай бұрын
Ice climbers in the hands of a player dedicated and smart enough to use them to a higher limit is the most terrifying thing but someone whos just half assing everything WILL get 3 stocked
@YOSSARIAN313 2 ай бұрын
Hardest charachter in the game to play optimally. The only ones who compete are like olimar/trainer/shulk
@flexyfalcon 10 ай бұрын
Their desync combos are hella satisfying to watch.
@DaakkuuYRS 10 ай бұрын
Ice Climbers are interesting characters; If Nana dies you feel like you have like one more lives (even if Popo sucks alone. He has no air recovery alone). But Nana's AI is very unpredictable. Sometimes she does very stupid things. Still, the idea behind them is still fun.
@josephreynolds7395 6 ай бұрын
nana is god mode most of the time, but sometimes she just decides to airdodge off the stage and die for no reason. Or after you get sent to the blast zone she wrecks your opponenet on her own. truly the biggest bag of character trail mix I have eaten.
@kadnhart6661 10 ай бұрын
The execution might not be great, but I always loved the concept of a duo character like Ice Climbers. So much so that I even made up a whole moveset for Team Rocket as a duo character!
@penis_owner 10 ай бұрын
Wobbuffet as their down-b or wrong
@jpanus 10 ай бұрын
Astral Chain protag would have been the best candidate for a duo, no one can change my mind
@h2o684 10 ай бұрын
But you can’t lie a team rocket duo would be sick
@waffleman8053 10 ай бұрын
One of my least favorite things in gaming is relying on AI partners. Ice Climbers must be hell to play as. Especially at a top level.
@Moss_Dude 10 ай бұрын
Eh, it's not nearly as bad as how it was in older games. Keep in mind it's only when separated, and Nana is less of a bumbling idiot jumping off the stage and more of a scared kid trying to get back to her friend/brother/whatever the hell their relationship is because Nintendo won't tell us. Plus she's just slightly more capable than a lot of people give her credit for, and sometimes she'll give an opponent a pretty hearty whack while they're ignoring her. So yeah they're hell to play as, but it's not her fault.
@illford6921 10 ай бұрын
@@Moss_Dudetbf the attacking thing happens on every game. Partially because if you break Popos shield you can control Nana which is a weirdly effective bait
@Moss_Dude 10 ай бұрын
@@illford6921 That's a more specific scenario but true nonetheless
@josephreynolds7395 6 ай бұрын
I'm thankful that ultamate is balanced the way it is you could win matches with low teirs if you really wanted to and i think that is what makes this smash game in particular special to me. you wouldn't win with bowser in melee in most brackets it skill to advantage ratio its just that bad in the other games
@Sappysappster 10 ай бұрын
Big D: "I don't believe in consistency"
@Slamdark 10 ай бұрын
Wild that you're covering Icies, I just started giving them an honest try in Ultimate. Desyncs have my hands SORE.
@YOSSARIAN313 2 ай бұрын
I tried i am physically incapable of doing them against other players im just not precise enough
@KalikoAF 10 ай бұрын
"Why no one plays Ice Climbers" Me: We're not the GOAR Big D
@RaheemRollair 10 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Big D's performance. He deserves a cold one (Alcoholic or not.) for putting in proper work on characters that don't put in work properly.
@timelessdocter 9 ай бұрын
I’m just wondering why most dedede mains (current or used to) also second icys, most sets I watch of other dedede mains on yt pocket this character as well
@RaheemRollair 9 ай бұрын
@@timelessdocter It's gotta be because they both use a hammer.
@jond9406 10 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, my two favorite characters to play is Jigglypuff and Ice Climbers (I just play casually with friends.) Desyncs always looked so cool but I know I could never ever do anything remotely as awesome looking due to the investment needed.
@Wario_B 10 ай бұрын
Big D has a screw loose but massive respect for him doing so well with icies
@danielferrieri7434 10 ай бұрын
They removed the Wobbling
@secretard 10 ай бұрын
Day 1 of waiting for why no one plays Lucario, why no one plays, Corrin, or why everyone plays mr game and watch
@Irikoanimates 10 ай бұрын
Wait did they already make a why no one plays Lucas?
@mr.gamewatch6165 10 ай бұрын
It is mystery for sure why they would play character from a series in the far past that very few people know of
@Bruce-906 7 ай бұрын
Why No One Plays Donkey kong.
@Joshuaplaysgames2807 6 ай бұрын
@@Irikoanimatesdude Lucas is one of the most played character and so is Lucario
@JamestheduckYT 6 ай бұрын
@@Bruce-906mabye not in competive matches But donkey Kong is one of the most played characters
@Plutoburns 10 ай бұрын
Icicle shot is really underrated as a projectile. First off, shielding DOESNT reflect it, just bounces it away. The hit box only becomes active against the climbers if. struck. Second, it has some WHACK ass interaction with basically every samus style charge shot in the game. Something about the way it hits them makes the icicles completely eat the shot AND continue going forward. Also a good tool for air stalling and interrupting low recoveries.
@carlosbarrera315 10 ай бұрын
it’s cause ice block has a hurtbox, so if something is only supposed to hit once, ice block just tanks the hit
@ezramoore9472 10 ай бұрын
@@carlosbarrera315this is not true, it's because of the way that projectiles all have priority based on their damage/range
@carlosbarrera315 10 ай бұрын
@@ezramoore9472 no? that’s WHY the ice block goes back vs just going through with charge shot. it’s the same with min min arms, they stop when they hit ib, because they have a hurtbox and add hitstop
@hazza358 10 ай бұрын
I remember the first ever character I tried out way back when I started with Brawl with some friends was the Ice Climbers. They told me I might find them easy and fun to start, and I think with some of the simplicities they have, they were absolutely right. To this day I can't desync them anywhere near the levels of what was shown in this video, but they're still fun. Their attacks are simple, they're small and agile, they hit decently hard and they're pretty cute. I don't main them, but until I got Sora, they were for years my character that had the highest GSP among my played characters. I might have the potential to learn how to desync them like that, but I think when there's other characters I'm both more comfortable and more familiar with, it's just not worth all that effort and time to practice for me, which I think is also likely the case for a lot of people similarly to one of your points in this video with the comparative effort and payoff.
@GameWatch-xu6sb 6 ай бұрын
Those are words of wisdom!
@Crowned_Hearts 10 ай бұрын
Actually Nana's CPU level increases as Popo crosses certain dmg thresholds. She starts at 3 and goes up to 9 at wich she should be able to shield and dodge. Edit: I guess this isnt in ultimate. I know it existed in one of the previous titles but it seems like in ultimate her AI lvl is defaulted to 77/100. For comparrison lvl 8 AI is 75/100. So yeah she is a tad bit smarter than a lvl 8 AI.
@tyb.531 10 ай бұрын
I thought u were talking shit then I checked. Apparently Nana gains a level every 20% except for the first 40%. Thanks you made me learn something :)
@owenduffy5745 10 ай бұрын
She literally gets smarter the more you hit her 💀
@Crowned_Hearts 10 ай бұрын
@@owenduffy5745 Nope the more you hit Popo. She just gets gradually angrier because you are hitting her brother.
@Crowned_Hearts 10 ай бұрын
@@tyb.531 Glad to help :)
@JJSquirtle 10 ай бұрын
I stg when she's "mad" she also just starts getting the most bullshit upsmashes out of nowhere for me and I appreciate it greatly
@Hymn645 10 ай бұрын
Always good time when Vars uploads
@wiggly3440 10 ай бұрын
Yes finally my main, I’ve been playing ic’s from the beginning of ultimate and I hadn’t stopped learning while playing them they are just so different and unique and there combos are so rewarding to use this character is impossible to master because you always are faced with different scenarios and you have so many options to factor because of nana, the difficulty in ice climbers is not in learning the combos or fundamentals it’s just the overwhelming amount of options and which option to use in which scenarios and that’s what make big D and Dabuz ( I also play Rosa) my favorite player it’s that they can use all there strengths, utilities and options almost perfectly it’s so mesmerizing to watch and I aspire to reach these heights someday really liked the episode thanks varus
@prophetedubaroque5136 10 ай бұрын
I also think that people overstate their difficulty in terms of mechanics but forget about how hard it is to actually use them at the right time.
@kkim5000 10 ай бұрын
i have found the only other person on the planet who plays ICs and rosa.
@illford6921 10 ай бұрын
@@prophetedubaroque5136tbf it doesn't help that this game has one of the worst input systems. This short hop macro is a curse, especially with it's ugly ass buffer and platforms
@wiggly3440 10 ай бұрын
@@kkim5000 let’s go
@princedemo9291 10 ай бұрын
Oh hey that’s me 4:18
@jafl_ics8905 10 ай бұрын
demo (:
@TheFrankICs 10 ай бұрын
demo (:
@johnacoundouridesmrc9324 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this episode as an icys main!
@Mangosjoraa 10 ай бұрын
One of my favourite parts of Big Ds matches is commentators (Coney) losing at at Nana’s AI
@dogboyton3166 10 ай бұрын
Wow, the why no one plays series has reached 30 episodes! Crazy to think about how many niche picks there are. And all four of the characters I play (Joker, Sephiroth, Robin, Mewtwo) are on there, somehow
@jasomega2446 10 ай бұрын
0:05 I see.
@shafir5726 10 ай бұрын
Great Video!
@reijin3733 10 ай бұрын
great video, cant wait for the bowser jr one !
@hellojacobw4151 10 ай бұрын
Bro, I was watching yeet smash’s everyone is broken and the ice climbers one was so cool. I didn’t know you could use them both at the same time. So I watched more videos of ice climbers cuz they’re cool. And I started using them. I’m an ice climbers main because I saw a broken combo on a yeetsmash video of a character I barely knew existed
@hellojacobw4151 10 ай бұрын
Also I like there moveset, I’ll play sopo anyday
@Jenna_Toules 10 ай бұрын
A title that's not click bait!
@kevingriffith6011 10 ай бұрын
It's no surprise to me that Ice Climbers are kind of built with such massive disadvantages. Look at almost any other fighting game that has a "delayed double" effect, they all tend to be some of the most powerful abilities in their game: Zero's Heat Doubles (Capcom vs.), Rose's Soul Illusion (Street Fighter 5)... and having an effect like this active on a character permanently would mean they'd have to be pretty awful in other ways to compensate.
@JJSquirtle 10 ай бұрын
And then there's the alpha games. Ongod custom combo feels like you're fighting 2 characters at once sometimes
@louismensinger 10 ай бұрын
Selfishly waiting for the “Why Everyone MAINS Yoshi” video.
@GameWatch-xu6sb 27 күн бұрын
What is especially strange about the Ice Climbers is that those two, a character that NO ONE plays, actually climbed from being a nice and obscure low-tier to a high-tier courtesy of Big D's ongoing and improving performance with the Ice Climbers. I am happy that the Ice Climbers had such an improvement, but I'm also shocked at this at the same time. Their appearance in Ultimate is a shell of their former selves, but nonetheless, the Ice Climbers have been viable for three games in a row, even if they're at their worst in Ultimate.
@kevingriffith6011 10 ай бұрын
Part of me wonders how good Ice Climbers would be if they were smash's "Negative Edge" character. Essentially, when you press the button, Popo attacks. When you release the button, Nana attacks. Sure, this would make them an absolute *monster* once they catch you (And there'd be some odd overlap with other "hold" mechanics like smash attacks) but I think that their lack of options in neutral justifies this, and at a casual level they'd function pretty much the same as they already do: you'd get both ice climbers working at the same time if you only tapped the buttons, after all. Edit: The more I think about it, the more I realize this would easily make them the next Kazuya... so probably a bad idea.
@Taleow 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking of something similar but instead of being negative edge what if nana’s moves could only be activated by the B button and Popo’s only activated by the A button it allows them to have a lot more of the traditional puppet character offense while still keeping the Reins on them
@illford6921 10 ай бұрын
@@Taleowit would need tf out of their recovery tho
@Carlisho 10 ай бұрын
Big D is a legend
@romanphilson9275 10 ай бұрын
hitting the projectile back doesn’t change ownership of the projectile, so it won’t actually damage the Icies.
@s-zz 10 ай бұрын
7:00 bro popped off because he thought he won
@SolideSchlange 10 ай бұрын
i play them because i wanna style on people with desync combos xd
@jafl_ics8905 10 ай бұрын
just like me (:
@styx1209 10 ай бұрын
Been my main for a while, theyre too much fun to stop once you learn the desyncs
@idiotwithacompruter7476 3 ай бұрын
I'm playing kazuya as a tutorial into icies, so I can't be called carried
@thedealmaker21 10 ай бұрын
Please do Duck Hunt next. Im so curious on why it aint more popular! In my eyes he has everything he needs, but no one plays them
@kkim5000 10 ай бұрын
there are times when i KO an opponent off one touch, and it's the greatest feeling in the world. then there are times when my popo is getting builled on the left side of kalos while my nana brainlessly dash-dances on the right platform for twenty straight seconds, and i ask myself why i play this character.
@Slow_Biden 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad no one plays ICs, cause they're my personal favorite characters and have been my main go-to since I was a kid playing Melee. I was like the Seto Kaiba of ICs 😂
@GameWatch-xu6sb 3 ай бұрын
Hey, no one should be glad that no one plays ICs. 😠
@owenlewis6546 10 ай бұрын
been waiting for this one. the reason no one plays them is because they are yet to see the light
@illford6921 10 ай бұрын
No it's because they're hard to get into Inna game who's engine actively fights you
@cerealexperimentsgrain 10 ай бұрын
bruh that clip of the hero prematurely celebrating and getting bodied lmao
@tyfi655 10 ай бұрын
I don't like playing Ice Climbers, but watching a good one is so entertaining
@chispychisp1690 5 ай бұрын
Sad the ices don't get enough attention. Their of game was pretty fun if not difficult. I love these rascals so much! They're also my main in smash
@plabcentral630 10 ай бұрын
I learned how to do the grab into fsmash thing and damn it’s nice.
@Z_64is_iscool 6 ай бұрын
This video made me main Ice Climbers… I know that was the exact opposite of the purpose to educate why it’s a bad character and why no one mains them, but it made me do the exact opposite
@SyncedIceClimbersSSBU 10 ай бұрын
I love this character
@spoonman1143 10 ай бұрын
goated character
@GameWatch-xu6sb 3 ай бұрын
more like top-tier character
@darkstryller 10 ай бұрын
the only other p`layer that i can think that mained ice climbers is wadi... we all know what happened
@TheFrankICs 10 ай бұрын
Don't mention he who shall not be named💀
@gumballfan13 7 ай бұрын
I've been playing Ice Climbers since the game came out, and for the life of me, I've only ever gotten a desync from an opponent separating them. They are one of the most fun (and broken with items on) characters casually, but competitively, they can be a nightmare. I've found some non desync easy combos, such as how up air combos into itself, but any desync stuff, I usually can't pull off. They are one of the best damage rackers in the game when combined, but their KO game suffers as dash attack doesn't KO, Belay is purely situational, and their smash attacks are very short ranged. However, I did learn that Down tilt can do quite a bit of knockback. Squall Hammer, if I recall, is an easy out of shield option as well. I'll never reach them on a competitive level, but I am happy that they at least got into B- Tier on the tier list.
@marqui-z1027 10 ай бұрын
We need a "why no on plays Dark Pit"
@Badylird 10 ай бұрын
I love them because they're adorable
@Willchannel90 9 ай бұрын
The reason why no one plays ice climbers, but it notice their light fighters.
@Xaero83ZX 10 ай бұрын
As Sakurai said on the “Something About” series: Long Live the… ICE CLIMBERS! 🤣
@Ant_Diplodicus 10 ай бұрын
He Finally did it :)
@jafl_ics8905 10 ай бұрын
yes (:
@jond9406 10 ай бұрын
What is the background music for this video? I really like it!
@theenderkirby939 10 ай бұрын
I swear the ice climbers is the characters I can't find easily a solo montage
@billystorm5347 10 ай бұрын
do you mean just one person doing the montage or sopo?
@theenderkirby939 10 ай бұрын
@@billystorm5347 I mean a standalone montage of only the ICs doing matches really the only time I saw them in a montage is in a collab one like the ultimate salt
@billystorm5347 10 ай бұрын
@@theenderkirby939 oh whole games yeah those are rare as icies neutral is abysmal to watch but I have seeing some short videos by jafl that sometimes have the full game and prince demo does have a few full games vs vendetta on his channel
@Blade_03 10 ай бұрын
As a dark Pit main. I need an episode on him, please!
@illford6921 10 ай бұрын
That's just put for the most part tho. He's not distinct enough to deserve his own video
@jvr6809 10 ай бұрын
They are still goated they just need a third member
@mitchelvivatson947 9 ай бұрын
I swear I saw an update awhile back that said Nana is not harder to kill
@Junk1234. 7 ай бұрын
As a icey main i can agree
@s-zz 10 ай бұрын
Requesting "why everyone mains peach"
@TheConstructive 7 ай бұрын
Well explained. Nana is 6 frames delayed though, not 7. Also shielding doesn't truly reflect IBs the way that hitting them does. They lose their hitbox if shielded.
@SilverCannon2000 10 ай бұрын
Long Live the ICE CLIMBERS
@josephreynolds7395 6 ай бұрын
ics main here and i agree that we are a glass canon type fighter relying on our good combo game to win. the hardest part about playing ics in this game is winning neutral or even getting inside in neutral and thats why ics dont have a +2 matchup
@GameWatch-xu6sb 3 ай бұрын
They actually do have some +2 matchups, though.
@josephreynolds7395 3 ай бұрын
@@GameWatch-xu6sb the matchup chart i used for this post was a bit outdated however they have like a max of five characters in the +2 range which is not a lot
@GameWatch-xu6sb 3 ай бұрын
@@josephreynolds7395 It's better than having none.
@adamzboss 10 ай бұрын
you don't talk about elemental status changes a lot, is that a factor in type matchup, especially since ice climbers have many ice moves?
@Masaru_kun 10 ай бұрын
Nana in Ultimate can't attack on her own?? Why would nintendo do that? All it did was create interesting interactions in the previous games
@h3nrywhat3ver89 10 ай бұрын
Still kinda waiting for why no one plays the Mii’s.
@YOSSARIAN313 2 ай бұрын
Salty mew2king is the best 0:50
@Imprez2564 10 ай бұрын
ICs mains REPRESENT 🫡🫡🫡
@boglemeister 10 ай бұрын
Whats the background song?
@CinnamonGhost_Crunch 9 ай бұрын
I commented this just to say I got my ass kicked by an ice climber earlier today. They exist and target are deadly.
@igotthemunchies7292 10 ай бұрын
I barely run into Ice climbers on elite
@prod.hotwingscola2509 10 ай бұрын
What he said at 10:20 is frustrating asf
@Atlas_DPS 10 ай бұрын
MrDanish ButterCookie: Exists
@MrJ691 10 ай бұрын
You're smash's last hope
@CL0WNPL4YZ 9 ай бұрын
Ice climbers are very fun to play
@SuperAntichicken 10 ай бұрын
I like them
@damdoom2011 9 күн бұрын
Bro ice climbers is one of my mains help-
@AveRageAweLika 10 ай бұрын
Big D:🗿🍷
@pug8714 10 ай бұрын
No one plays ice climbers cause it reminds them that they have no friends
@GameWatch-xu6sb 3 ай бұрын
*Rude...*
@umarikhwanmohdrusllim2442 10 ай бұрын
Question: Are The Ice Climbers Always Sweating?
@thatdvidkid3838 9 ай бұрын
As an ice climbers main, I can confirm that ALMOST nobody plays Ice Climbers.
@ReeeMonke 8 ай бұрын
As a duck hunt main, I can confirm that no one plays us either
@okWishFull 10 ай бұрын
“With respect to Kazuya players, that shit is broken asf”
@definiteg4909 10 ай бұрын
Why everyone plays Young Link
@TheUssrAirlines678 5 ай бұрын
I play as them
@raishonbrown7452 10 ай бұрын
Can you do one for pit?
@roto-a3705 10 ай бұрын
Wanna do why no one plays dedede next?
@gilbertguerrero2916 10 ай бұрын
Hi! Did we just fight on elite smash? I was a Ryu named “Faust” If so, GGs I had a lot of fun!
@DonaldvsSephy 10 ай бұрын
“Why Only Rob, Palutena, Steve, Kazuya, Aegis, Cloud, Wolf and Fox are Played” if you want to save yourself some time
@galenkovats6846 8 ай бұрын
Icie players unite! Funnest character imo
@vikingguy8733 10 ай бұрын
Background music is kinda loud. The harps are overpowering your voice over. 😅😅
@AveleenValenia 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty curious what your thoughts are on Zelda. She's very strong, requires minimal combos to get kills, and yet seems to be disliked by many
@IcyDraco10 10 ай бұрын
Why no one plays king k rool or lucario
@Poolinwastaken 7 ай бұрын
can you do Wario next
@grimsdol4665 10 ай бұрын
honestly I'm glad no one plays Ice Climbers, the Desyncs is some of the most unfun BS to fight against even if it is cool
@Asoing_bob 10 ай бұрын
Icies in groupsmash im tellin yall!!
@leastpark2577 9 ай бұрын
WHY NO ONE PLAYS LUCARIO. PLEASE BRO
@lamelime1 7 ай бұрын
extremely common Big D W
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