Why Not Judaism?

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Brian Holdsworth

Brian Holdsworth

5 ай бұрын

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If you’ve followed this channel for any length of time, you probably know that I’m a convert to the #Catholic religion.
And so I’ve done videos on this channel about why I didn’t become a Protestant, or why I’m not Eastern Orthodox, and why I’m not a Muslim, and some of the comments on those videos have issued the challenge to explain why I’m not a #Jewish.
There are two dimensions to being a member and practitioner of the Jewish religion. One is the hereditary dimension and the other is the creedo/cultural/religious dimension.
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@beatlecristian
@beatlecristian 5 ай бұрын
Post Temple Rabbinical Judaism is not the same as Biblical Judaism, nor is the Secular State of Israel the same as the Biblical Kingdom of Israel. Plus, there is more than enough physical proof that Catholicism is the One True Religion.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
Post temple Rabbinical Judaism IS the same biblical Judaism only CORRUPTED (just like the Saduccees were) by the Pharisee school of thought which took over Judaism ever since, so yes they are the true Jews & representatives of the old faith, but lost & misguided ever since they rejected our Christ. And correct, the vile secular Zionist entity has hijacked Jewish identity just like Protestants did to us, but remember - they don't represent Jews nor Judaism & the Rabbinical Orthodox Jews don't even count them as true Jews, only as absolute heretics
@manaman9625
@manaman9625 5 ай бұрын
Biblical “Judaism” is just Christianity pre Christ. Why are you naming a religion after 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel? Doesn’t make sense
@jamesms4
@jamesms4 5 ай бұрын
That is simply not true. Thought objectively all Jews should believe in Jesus regardless of this faulty opinion.
@euengelion
@euengelion 5 ай бұрын
@@jamesms4 why is that not true?
@jamesms4
@jamesms4 5 ай бұрын
@@euengelion Well if I may liberally steal from Larry Chapp's criticism of Schneider's CREDO Quote" that modern rabbinic Judaism is not really a legitimate form of Judaism at all since it lacks the identifying historical markers of “temple, priesthood, and sacrifice” (p. 34, #204). But this ignores the historical fact that during the time of Jesus the Judaism of the synagogues, with their worship centered on the Tanakh and led by rabbis (often pharisees) was indeed a legitimate form of the Judaism of that time, which quite often existed in a kind of theological tension with the Temple cult of the Sadducees. But Bishop Schneider seems oblivious to this fact and goes on to conclude that “modern Judaism as a whole exists as a rejection of God’s calling” since it denies the full truth of God’s Revelation in Christ. As a whole? Does he mean by this that modern Judaism is to be defined through and through by the category of “rejection of Christ” without remainder? It would seem so."END QUOTE. I mean Pharisee sat in the Chair of Moses so how is Rabbinic Judaism not the Judaism of the OT. Of course it goes without saying Jews still have to believe in Jesus objectively...
@orangemanbad
@orangemanbad 5 ай бұрын
The best way to describe modern Orthodox Judaism is to compare it to Mormonism. That is to say, they utilize the original book but they added to it with new books and they put their faith and daily practices and covenants from the new stuff that is unfortunately not inspired word of god.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
Correct. In fact, as I always say: Zionists (which is what modern Judaism IS) aren't Jews, just like Protestants/Mormons aren't Christians
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 5 ай бұрын
Wow, never thought of it like that! Excellent analogy, thanks!
@harrygarris6921
@harrygarris6921 5 ай бұрын
It’s far more grounded in the Old Testament than Mormonism is in the Bible. The Talmud is ultimately a guide on how to interpret and apply the Torah. Mormon’s main scripture is the Book of Mormon, which isn’t even attempting to interpret the Bible it’s a new thing entirely.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
@harrygarris6921 You actually make a comparison between the deep brilliant Talmud & the junk food cult & looney books of Mormons? LOL
@orangemanbad
@orangemanbad 5 ай бұрын
@@harrygarris6921 that’s not entirely true. The Book of Mormon is all Bible motifs and Joseph smith’s storytelling in a way that interprets his views of the meanings behind New Testament teachings although sold off as from above. That’s not really my point though. The point is the Talmud brings all kinds of new teachings that are not biblical. And then modern Jews believe they cannot follow Christ because it goes against their teachings - even though it doesn’t go against the Bible it goes against their Talmud. And as I said the Talmud is not inspired word. They treat Rashi as if he’s more important than Isaiah. That’s just a fact.
@8080CD
@8080CD 5 ай бұрын
You never mentioned how many Jews converted at and after time of Christ. Something to look into. It's a key element in terms of continuity of the Church. Also, no discussion of Talmud vs. Torah...very different animals. Thanks for the video, enjoyed it very much
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 5 ай бұрын
It’s funny how _they_ are waiting for the messiah while we are waiting for the antichrist …
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 Ай бұрын
@@MidlifeRenaissanceMan _They_ already rejected the true messiah. You should see what _they_ say about Jesus in those texts.
@xXUrObOrOSXx
@xXUrObOrOSXx 5 ай бұрын
I am ethnic jew and I chose to convert to Catholicism! Never looked back
@chrisbecker5577
@chrisbecker5577 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully to Christanity.
@TheTrueMonotheist99
@TheTrueMonotheist99 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully to Islam. InshAllah
@xXUrObOrOSXx
@xXUrObOrOSXx 5 ай бұрын
@@TheTrueMonotheist99 better death than Islam. Islam is satanic
@Jeremy-ge6zv
@Jeremy-ge6zv 5 ай бұрын
@@chrisbecker5577 Catholicism Is Christianity To Be In Christ Is To Be Catholic ✝️
@chrisbecker5577
@chrisbecker5577 5 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-ge6zv Catholicism is synonymous with Christianity, so to say become a Christian is the same as becoming a Catholic.
@gustavramirez2891
@gustavramirez2891 5 ай бұрын
Please do why not Buddhism next.
@stpierreorama
@stpierreorama 5 ай бұрын
Hindu, Taoist, Shinto, Jain and Sikh as well!
@johnchacko1425
@johnchacko1425 Ай бұрын
Sikhism Jainism and buddha
@dad5410
@dad5410 5 ай бұрын
Why I am not Jewish: Talmud
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
Explain yourself & be debunked
@dad5410
@dad5410 5 ай бұрын
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy r u going to deboonk me
@user-sd6yu1xs4g
@user-sd6yu1xs4g 5 ай бұрын
yes, Darth.......@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@hamie7624
@hamie7624 5 ай бұрын
​@@EasternRomeOrthodoxysanhedrin 54b calls for *ahem* adult activities with 9 year old boys. Its utterly evil.
@RickGrimes-tr3ug
@RickGrimes-tr3ug 5 ай бұрын
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxyget lost, rabbi. What a stupid response…
@mariepaukowits1709
@mariepaukowits1709 5 ай бұрын
Viva Cristo rey!
@ahoblit
@ahoblit 5 ай бұрын
Brian the thumbnail for this video is legendary.
@BelaMadeira
@BelaMadeira 5 ай бұрын
It’s nice but am I missing some context?
@ahoblit
@ahoblit 5 ай бұрын
I just think his expression is funny. Ive never seen him make that face before.@@BelaMadeira
@mikethomas7920
@mikethomas7920 5 ай бұрын
Thoughtful presentation, as usual. But I am left wondering: What about Ruth? She was the quintessential outsider, but by her own act, adopted Naomi’s people. What about Lot’s daughters? They were members of the tribe but their offspring became outsiders. Maybe you covered this and I missed it, but just in case you didnt I would be interested in your thoughts.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 5 ай бұрын
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@markkirby1131
@markkirby1131 5 ай бұрын
I challenge you to explain why there is a double standard for African Catholics and Catholics of the western countries, per the Pope... when it comes to blessings sin and same sex couples. How soon do you think it will be before YOUR church will allow a same sex weddings to occur under its roof??? If I were to bet, it will happen by the end of summer... sad to say that...
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 5 ай бұрын
Joined your Locals. You have my support. Your videos have helped me grow in my Catholic faith. Thank you! Recent convert in Ottawa. Cor Jesu sacratissimum, miserere nobis. Deus Vult
@piface3016
@piface3016 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Other comments are chastising you for not going hard enough on the people who rejected Christ, but I appreciate that you have kept your calm and composure and sincerity, as you always do.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
Because they're antisemites, not Catholics as Brian. Despite Orthodox Jews being the disciples of the Pharisee school of thought, we love & respect them & pray for them, just like Jesus said to do since "they don't know what they are doing". No need to go hard on exiled people, they were given their own punishment from God, just like we were & all peoples were given their own punishments
@nobilisartorivs
@nobilisartorivs 5 ай бұрын
is zionism a problem yes or no?@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@piface3016
@piface3016 5 ай бұрын
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy There is a milenar animosity between Jews and Christians, going back to the fall of Jerusalem in 130. They don't share in the goodwill you're showing, we should be aware of this.
@Floridiansince94
@Floridiansince94 5 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! Thank you Brian! God bless you!
@petebratschi
@petebratschi 5 ай бұрын
“Here’s why I’m not Jewish” “But before we begin please give me money” 😂😂 Love you Brian
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 5 ай бұрын
I loved the irony. I worked out that I am selectively anti Semitic I like Jewish people when they are doing stand up comedy and when they’re playing jazz I really really like them when they are feeding me I just hate it when they turn up and say “Hey. We’re raising your rent”
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
​@@MidlifeRenaissanceManYes, good you know that both of you are vile anti-semites, not Catholics.
@nymgrace1227
@nymgrace1227 5 ай бұрын
@@MidlifeRenaissanceManI take it that the Jewish folks who are raising you rent are your parents. Time to stop living in their basement honey.
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 5 ай бұрын
Heh heh heh.🐸
@user-sd6yu1xs4g
@user-sd6yu1xs4g 5 ай бұрын
Well Caught!........It went straight past me! ha
@johnconnelly3066
@johnconnelly3066 5 ай бұрын
I am not Jewish for two simple reasons. A) I was not born into such a family and therefore cannot be an ethnic Jew. B) I choose not to be a convert to Judaism because Jews are still awaiting the arrival of the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament while I am convinced that he already came and will again return. My reasons for believing so: 1. Isaiah 7:14- He would be born from a virgin 2. Psalm 72:10- He would be worshipped and given gifts at birth 3. Isaiah 40:3-4- His ministry would be preceded by a voice calling in the desert 4. Zechariah 9:9- He would come riding on a donkey 5. Isaiah 42:1-4- His message of salvation would also extend to the Gentiles 6. Isaiah 53:3- He would be despised and rejected 7. Zechariah 11:13- He would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver 8. Psalm 22:16- His hands and feet would be pierced 9. Psalm 22:18- Lots would be cast for His clothes 10. Leviticus 17:11- He would die and pour out his blood for our sins 11. Psalm 68:18- He would ascend to heaven
@jessica3285
@jessica3285 5 ай бұрын
Best neat answer
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
Yes, correct, those verses are quoted by our Church fathers & a lot more. In fact, and had you been fluent in the Hebrew, you would see Christ very clearly revealed by the Father when it signs: "the Neum of YHVH" = the Logos/Speech of God the Father
@xigbarii8432
@xigbarii8432 5 ай бұрын
You forgot Ezekiel 1-10 prefiguring the Eucharist and describing Christ directly
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
@@xigbarii8432 I am fluent in the original Hebrew text, and Ezekiel 1:10 does NOT describe Christ not "directly" & not at all ‐ that is blasphemy brother, so take it back. It describes the CHERUBS. Daniel 7 is the only time where Christ is revealed in image directly in his 2 natures: the divine person (Ancient of Days) & the human nature (1 like the Son of Man)
@xigbarii8432
@xigbarii8432 5 ай бұрын
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy first I didn't say that verse, but rather Chapters 1-10, not 1:10. Also I find it hard to believe that the MAN on the throne ABOVE the cherub (1:25-16) that came to Ezekiel with a "great cloud" (1:4), has the "likeness of the glory of the Lord", then "stood there" (3:23) is just a mere Angel. Then on chapter 4 this figure makes Ezekiel "bear their [children of Israel] iniquities" (4:4) like Christ. Then from Chapter 6 all the way to Chapter 39 Ezekiel starts off almost every chapter with "the word of the Lord came to me." We know who this "word" is; it's not a mystery, but the gospel of John tells us that the word was with God, and the word WAS God (John 1:1). I think you're under cutting your own apologetic leaving out Ezekiel's encounters with Christ AND the Holy Spirit
@edcrow7987
@edcrow7987 5 ай бұрын
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@dominusalicorn3684
@dominusalicorn3684 5 ай бұрын
Brian, you are too wholesome for the internet. When people snidely asked why you haven't done a "why not Judaism" video yet, they were implying you were afraid of coming off as antisemitic. Jordan Peterson fell for this trap when he did his "letters to" videos: letter to Christians (protestants you're the worst), and letter to Muslims, and then letter to CEOs. When people asked him on Twitter why he didn't do a letter to Jews, he said "F off."
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 Ай бұрын
Ask JP if he is a Christian, he can't give a straight answer. It reminds me of pilpul or casuistry.
@omegaXXIV
@omegaXXIV Ай бұрын
@@notsocrates9529 Right? He'll give you an intellectual-sounding word salad that is nothing but sophistry.
@iluvlexiful
@iluvlexiful 5 ай бұрын
Catholics have followed the true line of Judaism. We are the church of Jesus, founded by Jesus, the Jewish Messiah. Participants in the New Covenant. * Jews go by the mother’s lineage. Jesus gave us His Jewish mother to be our mother and we receive His Body and Blood in the Eucharist. Fr. Calloway has said that the DNA of every mother is in her children forever and visa versa. So when we receive Jesus in Holy Communion we also receive Mary’s DNA.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 5 ай бұрын
Okay, this is a form of supercessionism that is very radical and dangerous. While the Church does replace judaism as a means of salvation the jews are still the jews. And we aren't them, this rethoric that we somehow are the true jews is false and outright cultural appropriation.
@everetunknown5890
@everetunknown5890 5 ай бұрын
Peace to you 🕊✌
@bertpenney3526
@bertpenney3526 5 ай бұрын
I haven't read all of the comments so I don't know if this has been addressed by someone else and I apologize if it has. The problem I have with this is the fact that God chose the Israelites _before_ Judaism existed. That suggests that God didn't choose a people of a particular religion but people of a certain ethnicity. As a result, it is not possible for a someone who is not a descendant of those Israelites to convert and become one of the chosen. Contrary to current societal norms, one cannot change his/her ethnicity or race.
@The_Archivist_84
@The_Archivist_84 5 ай бұрын
I was just having a conversation about this with someone!
@palyddon
@palyddon 5 ай бұрын
When I began my spiritual journey, I also considered the possibility that the true faith might be Judaism, and I, too, drew the conclusion that Orthodoxy was the most logical variety to explore. As I got into my studies, though, I discovered a distinction between the Torah SheBichtav and the Torah SheBeal Peh, both of which are referred to simply as the Torah. The former is what can be called the Oral Law, which was only finally written down after the fall of the Second Temple. This Oral Law, in what can today be called Rabbinic (as opposed to Biblical) Judaism, now takes precedence in Jewish teaching and belief. Not only is this (now written) Oral Law based on the teachings of the Pharisees (so many times decried by Christ), and not only does it often contradict (not to say undermine) the original written Scriptures, but it also delineates a two-tiered morality (as does Islam, incidentally), whereby sin against one’s neighbor is only truly sin against one’s true neighbor (i.e., a fellow member of the proverbial tribe). As an aside, when I finally got round to exploring Christianity, knowing these things about Judaism certainly cast an interesting light on my reading of Luke 10:25-37 (the parable of the Good Samaritan). At any rate, I will not go into the debate as to whether one can actually convert to become a full-fledged Jew. However, I will say that I could not bring myself to believe in (much less worship) a God who would advocate treating his children thusly. Moreover, it’s hard for me to even think of people today calling themselves Jewish (in a religious sense) as “People of the Book,” given the low place they actually accord the Tanakh (a.k.a., the Old Testament).
@bmc8871
@bmc8871 5 ай бұрын
Yes I tried to say the same thing but I seem to have been censored so i will try again here: Believing that the Torah is "Jewish Scripture" or their authoritative text shows how Protestantized Catholics have become. Judaism does not have Sola Scriptura where anyone can read the Torah and have Faith in it. The authority is the Rabbi. According to Rabbi Finklestein in "The Jews- Their History, Culture and Religion", Vol 4 (Jewish Publication Society of America, 1949): "The Talmud derives its authority from the position held by the ancient academies (i.e. Pharisee). The teachers of those academies, both of Babylonia and Palestine were considered the rightful successors of the older Sanhedrin... At the present time, the Jewish people have no living central authority comparable in status to the ancient Sanhedrins or the later academies. Therefore, any decision regarding the Jewish religion must be based on the Talmud as the final resume of the teaching of those authorities when they existed." In "The Talmud: Heart's Blood of the Jewish Faith" Rabbi Herman Wouk states: "The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe- whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists- we follow the Talmud. It is our common law"
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 5 ай бұрын
They don't accord the Tanakh a low place, they regard it as being on the same level as Oral Tradition, much like another religion I happen to know about... The only difference is they have an Old Testament (partly corrupted) Oral Tradition and we have an New Testament (non-corrupted) Oral Tradition.
@palyddon
@palyddon 5 ай бұрын
@@igorlopes7589 Thanks for your reply. It’s been a while since I’ve studied in this area, so please correct me if you know better, but it is my understanding that the Tanakh (which includes the written Torah) is essentially the same as the Protestant Old Testament. In short, that is the written law, which we Christians believe Jesus fulfilled. As Jesus indicates numerous times in the New Testament (which is admittedly a written account of part of Christian oral tradition-I assume that’s what you’re referencing), the scribes and Pharisees had wrongly supplemented the (divine) written law with purely man-made oral laws. After the destruction of the Second Temple, these oral laws became the basis of the Mishnah, which also produced relevant rabbinic commentaries, such as the Gemara (most importantly that of the Babylonic Talmud, which is given primacy over the Palestinian Talmud). Rather than “low place,” perhaps I should have said “inferior status,” as rabbinic sages such as Maimonides claimed all scripture to have two meanings: one literal (silver) and one figurative (gold), the latter referring to the Talmud, the former to the Tanakh. And sometimes the teachings of the Talmud are not only in direct contradiction to Christian teachings (even of the OT) but also distasteful to many non-Jews (although especially Christians).
@catholicguy1073
@catholicguy1073 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. I thought that their Oral Tradition would have lined up quite well with the Talmud but you’re saying it doesn’t?
@palyddon
@palyddon 5 ай бұрын
@@catholicguy1073 Not exactly. The Talmud contains both a codification of the Oral Law (a.k.a. The Mishnah) and commentaries on it (a.k.a. The Gemara). The contradiction I speak of is between the Mishnah and the Old Testament. The Gemara does not contradict the Mishnah but rather serves to help us understand it and its place of primacy.
@a_Catholic_Ant
@a_Catholic_Ant 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking of the same silence argument.
@grog4063
@grog4063 5 ай бұрын
There was no year ZERO, 1BC was followed by 1AD (The year of the Lord).
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 5 ай бұрын
Few people seem to know this
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 5 ай бұрын
Because of a priets's sermon I respect the Jews, but not those vengeful ones. According to the priest, The Catholic Church is the continuation of the Jewish religion, in fullfilment of the Prophecies. The priest said the early Christions did not abandon the Jewish religion, the early Catholics took all Jewish traditions and Christianized them. The Rites of the traditional Church all come from Judaism. Sadly the foefathers of the Jews that rejected Christ brought down a curse upon themselves, "Let His Blood be on our hands and upon our cildren and our childrens children". They called down from God a curse, when they accept Jesus Christ and His Holy Roman Catholic Church then I believe this curse will be lifted.
@sharonlee7111
@sharonlee7111 4 ай бұрын
That's a lie
@senorsoloq
@senorsoloq 5 ай бұрын
Back to the roots! (why not series)
@harleymann2086
@harleymann2086 5 ай бұрын
I always figured Judaism is, first, that of blood. And if you do not have the blood, then you would never be accepted. Also, there are difficult questions they have to address as a religion.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 5 ай бұрын
Conversions to judaism do exist and do happen. Judaism isn't merely a religion of blood.
@wendyfield7708
@wendyfield7708 5 ай бұрын
This is not true. And all religions have “difficult questions”.
@bluschke52
@bluschke52 5 ай бұрын
You can convert to orthodox Judaism. I know many people who have but I will say they put a lot of stock into their blood line. They think they have a special spark from God even if they are a horrible non practicing Jew they are deemed special.
@jameslancatiwalaan5236
@jameslancatiwalaan5236 5 ай бұрын
Could be why Paul spoke of non-Jews to be “predestined for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ”. When the Jews rejected Christ’s invitation, He made it available to those who will accept and believe.
@harleymann2086
@harleymann2086 5 ай бұрын
@@jameslancatiwalaan5236 Beautiful and thoughtful reply. Thank you.
@theamericancristero7390
@theamericancristero7390 5 ай бұрын
So you have chosen space laser
@Proclivitytolife
@Proclivitytolife 5 ай бұрын
Hey Brian, just to let you know, you're wrong about it not being possible to covert to Orthodox Judaism. It is absolutely possible and some people do so. Even one of their greatest "sages", rabbi Akiva from the late 1st and early 2nd centuries was a convert and he is extremely revered to this day. Even in the Old Testament scriptures we see the possibility, and the reality, of converting. Probably should have looked into this a bit more before making this video. I love you, so this is just a kind correction.
@JohnAlbertRigali
@JohnAlbertRigali 5 ай бұрын
It’s my understanding that the kohanim had been eradicated by 70 - thus rendering Judaism dead and invalid for future practice - but certain lay Jews found and studied surviving Jewish rabbinical texts and then began a new priesthood (which allegedly gave rise to the various families named “Cohen” or something similar) with the knowledge gleaned from those texts.
@lemokemo5752
@lemokemo5752 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy these videos. Please do "why I am not a daoist"!
@frjacobsuico
@frjacobsuico 5 ай бұрын
"If secularism is dictating what your religion is, then just be secular."
@ian_sch
@ian_sch 5 ай бұрын
My line of thought is the same. If I'm going to be religious, it has to be the most traditional and orthodox practice with historical backing etc... that's why I'm Roman Catholic =)
@fsilber330
@fsilber330 4 ай бұрын
The vast majority of extremely Orthodox religions traditions to recognize the legitimacy of conversion, but they do not encourage it, do not make it easy, and it would mean separating yourself from the larger world (even the larger conservative world) through religious practices many of which seem to have been created to create just such a separation.
@colleen5872
@colleen5872 5 ай бұрын
Love your channel Brian. Keep up the great work😊🙏🇺🇸
@NeverSaySandwich1
@NeverSaySandwich1 5 ай бұрын
Why not judaism? They reject Christ and actively work against him and his teachings. They wait for a Messiah, but they had one 2000 years ago
@JohnPrepuce
@JohnPrepuce 4 ай бұрын
This is the correct and most concise answer. The "Jews" of today are seen through God's eyes the same as any non-believer, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, Satanists, etc; they will not get to heaven unless they accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. The covenant that God made with His chosen people is extended only to all those who accept his Son, regardless of race or ethnicity.
@sharonlee7111
@sharonlee7111 4 ай бұрын
Well, because you're not supposed to worship.The messiah and the messiah is not supposed to die for anyone's sins😅
@sebastianofmilan
@sebastianofmilan 5 ай бұрын
E Michael Jones has some great work on the Jews from a faithful Catholic perspective.
@Grandlett
@Grandlett 5 ай бұрын
EMJ is amazing
@EUGENIUS60
@EUGENIUS60 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍🏻.
@JP-qb3ny
@JP-qb3ny 5 ай бұрын
Yes, he wrote some great books. Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, Libido Dominadi, Logos Rising
@sebastianofmilan
@sebastianofmilan 5 ай бұрын
"The Catholic State" has some good content on this subject as well on his website and KZfaq channel.
@cherylschalk9106
@cherylschalk9106 5 ай бұрын
The Popes also have written about Judaism, especially Pope Pius IX
@ricardoheredia7307
@ricardoheredia7307 5 ай бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 5 ай бұрын
It is possible for Gentiles to join mainstream Orthodox and Charedi Jewish groups but they would initially be treated with suspicion. The theology of post-Temple Judaism is another matter. If you follow it through logically you end up Catholic or Orthodox Christian. In order to remain Jewish you have to set aside the entire NT.
@reinedire7872
@reinedire7872 5 ай бұрын
This has to be one of the easiest questions for a Christian to answer. If someone asked this to try and stump you, it would be rude of me to say what that suggests about them.
@DaBigArmyDude
@DaBigArmyDude 2 ай бұрын
Jon Chrysostom had some things to say about this…
@ryancornell236
@ryancornell236 5 ай бұрын
Good take on why you don't endorse Judaism. I would like to add that God chose a single people to prepare the way for His coming into the world. It was His manifestation that marked His people's opportunity to choose Him. Some received and believed while others rejected. Those that received founded His church and in turn offered Him to the world. Those that rejected, lost their inheritance. Those that rejected Him lost everything and that void has been filled with hatred of Christ and all He stands for. That is why the history of the past 2000 years is the story of persecution against the Church. The synagogue of Satan is the force behind the persecution just as it was the force behind the Crucifixion. "If they hate you, remember, they hated me first" But we don't hate them, we pray for them. We are the children of the promise, we are the true Israel. The children of the lost can regain everything by their conversion. We want this because then we will be brothers once again.
@JohnSmith-qx8ll
@JohnSmith-qx8ll 4 ай бұрын
extremely based. Amen!
@DominusNobody
@DominusNobody 5 ай бұрын
Huh? So you converted to Catholicism over Orthodox Judaism by default? Not solely based on the Truth? The same spirit that, then, was adversarial to the fulfillment of the Biblical promises - manifested in the Logos Incarnate - persists in the form of Rabbinic/Talmudic Judaism today. (Btw, absolutely it's possible to convert to OJ.)
@Hypexotic
@Hypexotic 5 ай бұрын
I have a very important question. Perhaps you could answer? We're not orthodox Jews so how are we saved? (nutshell) I'm under the impression that Jesus died for his chosen people. How are we saved if we are not orthodox Jews?
@Fish_tank75
@Fish_tank75 5 ай бұрын
Quite simple Jesus made it clear he cared for all often meeting with gentiles, Samaritan’s (seen as not Jewish) and tax collectors (seen as betrayers of the Jewish people) John also tells us he died for all to be saved Once the Lord departed into heaven his followers began to preach to gentiles and started many churches in areas like atheans and turkey
@Hypexotic
@Hypexotic 5 ай бұрын
@@Fish_tank75 That made a whole lot of sense.
@Fish_tank75
@Fish_tank75 5 ай бұрын
@@Hypexotic glad I could help
@JohnSmith-qx8ll
@JohnSmith-qx8ll 4 ай бұрын
Please have a discussion with Dr. E Michael Jones. One of the most knowledgable and courageous Catholics fighting the culture war today.
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 Ай бұрын
He's just a classic antisemite.
@forestmcneir3325
@forestmcneir3325 5 ай бұрын
Incorrect. All streams of Judaism, including Orthodoxy, although in all streams, conversion is discouraged. In Orthodoxy, when a prosylite is accepted, conversion is very rigorous.
@davedays504
@davedays504 4 ай бұрын
All denominations of Judaism accept converts, conversion was always part of Judaism some famous converts include: Ruth, Obadiah, rabbi Yehuda Halevi, also another Obadiah who also converted wrote to Maimonides regarding questions such as can he recite prayers thanking G’d for freeing Jews from Egypt, for not making him a non Jew etc and Maimonides replied yes he can
@simplydanny
@simplydanny 5 ай бұрын
Traditional Orthodox Judaism definitely takes converts, it is harder to get and as a rule may chase away 3 times before taking your conversion intentions seriously.
@axlcinema
@axlcinema 5 ай бұрын
Brian please open up Fishers network to the rest of the world.
@valerieokeeffe6275
@valerieokeeffe6275 5 ай бұрын
You CAN CONVERT to Orthodox Judaism. However you must be converted by an Orthodox Rabbi. The Orthodox Rabbis in Israel do not recognise conversions any conversions by orthodox rabbis outside of Israel
@Grandlett
@Grandlett 5 ай бұрын
why would you want to go to hell?
@albertito77
@albertito77 5 ай бұрын
Jewish Rabbis will turn you away three times if you enquire about conversion, kind of how Jesus spoke to the Syrophonecian woman. You have to be persistent and they will start to welcome you when you ask a fourth time.
@kvzgm6316
@kvzgm6316 2 ай бұрын
@@GrandlettJews will not go to hell
@user-jb2fz2dp3h
@user-jb2fz2dp3h 5 ай бұрын
Orthodox Judaism do eccept converts. Judaism is not a proselytizing religion, because it isn't a universal religion like Christianity or Islam, but an ethnic religion. Judaism it's foremost a peoplehood/ethnicity/nation/culture/civilization. In actuallity you aren't convert to the Jeish faith, but join to the Jewish people.
@BindingTheYoke
@BindingTheYoke 5 ай бұрын
Make like St Francis and never be to proud to beg. I'm on locals i'll sub. Also genetically i'm like a Samaritan, daughter of Abraham but a mutt to the pure breeds. /:) not that I think that matters to the Lord but obedience to Him.
@LeoDisraeli
@LeoDisraeli 4 ай бұрын
You can convert to Orthodox Judaism though
@wendyleeconnelly2939
@wendyleeconnelly2939 4 ай бұрын
When it comes to conversion to Judaism, it is my understanding that Orthodox conversion is the only one considered valid. Now, if you really agreed with their theology but did not feel called to convert, there is the Noahide path, which is not necessarily a path to conversion but is the way of the righteous gentile.
@pinchasreich7773
@pinchasreich7773 4 ай бұрын
I was raised Orthodox Jewish. I can tell you with absolute confidence that ANY individual, no matter their race or previous religious affiliations will be accepted as a convert. The caveat is that a Rabbi will not convert a person who believes Jesus is the Messiah or Devine in some way. The first part of the video is pretty misleading. It implies the Orthodox reject new converts. That is definitely not the case. Orthodox people don't actively proselytize to bring outsiders into the fold. But they welcome, literally anyone who will accept the basic practices and beliefs of Orthodox Judaism (Torah Judaism). Converts are full fledged Jews in ALL respects. The only difference between a Convert and a Jew born into the faith, is that a Convert cannot marry someone who is a descendent of the Priestly class (appx. %10 of Jews). Hope that helps!
@frumexicano4112
@frumexicano4112 4 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy does indeed accept conversion. The requirements are very strict and not for the dilettante. They will want to see that you are 100% living the life. I do agree with what you say about the more liberal denominations. Too much intellectual inconsistency there.
@svandergaast1
@svandergaast1 Ай бұрын
I'm a Jew and I honestly feel like Catholics share a lot of the same beliefs in regards to a lot of things.
@RickGrimes-tr3ug
@RickGrimes-tr3ug 5 ай бұрын
Jew does not equal = Hebrew Israelite follower of the Law the Moses.
@somber_whimsy
@somber_whimsy 5 ай бұрын
For the last damn time guys, Jews don’t think the Talmud is Scripture, the Talmud is their equivalent to the church fathers, it’s a collection of dialogues and debates. And before you call me a Zionist or smth, I am literally a Roman Catholic Catechumen and a Monarchist, the most authentically Jewish thing I can do is accept Yeshua as my King and Myriam as the Mother of God.
@RickW-HGWT
@RickW-HGWT 5 ай бұрын
Honest question are they bound to it like Catholics are to our sacred traditions and catechism, or is it more of a guide then hard rules ?.
@somber_whimsy
@somber_whimsy 5 ай бұрын
@@RickW-HGWT Eh, it’s a guide. It’s as authoritative as Scot Hann books
@user-zs3vd5np2s
@user-zs3vd5np2s 5 ай бұрын
An unconnected question: What do you mean by monarchist?
@somber_whimsy
@somber_whimsy 5 ай бұрын
@@user-zs3vd5np2s monarchism doesn’t work in the modern world however I’m sympathetic to it
@chrisbecker5577
@chrisbecker5577 5 ай бұрын
In theory you are correct, but in practice, I think you are mistaken.
@jeffeicher7259
@jeffeicher7259 5 ай бұрын
Orthodox Judaism does most certainly welcome converts. It is a very rigorous process requiring full compliance with Torah observance.
@catholicguy1073
@catholicguy1073 5 ай бұрын
Technically one can convert to Orthodox Judaism. Like through marriage is one way. Another way is sincere conversion. Even in the Acts for example you see Jews then wanting gentiles to become Jewish so they could then become Christian. So I think it’s possible. I’m not Jewish even if I could I would not be is obviously because of Jesus
@user-zs3vd5np2s
@user-zs3vd5np2s 5 ай бұрын
Intermarriage doesn’t make one Jew, inly eligible for Israeli citizenship.
@catholicguy1073
@catholicguy1073 5 ай бұрын
@@user-zs3vd5np2s if one of them is Orthodox it does require conversion for them to have a religious wedding from what I know
@user-zs3vd5np2s
@user-zs3vd5np2s 5 ай бұрын
@@catholicguy1073 Right, but most Jews who intermarry go for a secular wedding
@arielmurdoch6931
@arielmurdoch6931 4 ай бұрын
Omgosh, I am gobsmacked. This is the second video that I have watched of yours, appreciating the thought put into the first video. As a Noahide, meaning a non-Jew who recognizes the Torah, I am shocked to hear your points in regards to your truth seeking mission. The Torah talks about converts many times and converts are definitely recognized in orthodox communities (maybe some more than others but there are many many laws commanding respect and integration of converts). It is well known amongst Rabbis and Rabanits that converts have a special place in G-d’s heart as they have chosen to take on the heavy burden of being a light onto the Nations. The second part just seems like you read the New Testament and the Old Testament from the eyes of a Christian and looked at history as a Christian rather than an unbiased truth seeking person. There are so many sources debunking the New Testament’s link to the Tanach that there is a whole movement of Christians leaving the church when they started asking more questions and digging deeper. Moreover, there are so many amazing Rabbis online that share the most amazing understandings from the Jewish traditions and sages about what the Tanach says and why things happened the way that they did; it is plain in the text to a learned scholar about the exiles that have been placed on the Nation, with the last one (the Roman one) being the longest and most feared. I don’t sense that you actually dug in deep to the context, the understandings, and truth of the Jewish traditions and sages but took a macro look at society’s understanding and modern secs that are not a reflection of the Torah’s undistorted truth. Sorry for the negative comment; I felt so shocked by your comments that I felt drawn to post my understanding, for what it is worth.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you didn't like the video, but keep in mind that you've simply dismissed the arguments rather than rebutted them. You merely assert that the claims I've made aren't true and have been debunked, but you don't actually provide any counter arguments. In the video, I make specific arguments that are unaddressed in your comment and as a matter of fact, no converts are not part of the history of Ancient Israel or Orthodox Rabbinical Judaism. There are some allowances for it, but don't mistake that for a wholesale acceptance, because that isn't the case. At best, you could say it's controversial, as this article admits: www.myjewishlearning.com/article/cross-denominational-differences-regarding-conversion/
@JohnSmith-qx8ll
@JohnSmith-qx8ll 4 ай бұрын
This is complete and utter nonsense. Rabbi's infinitely manipulate language to suit their needs at the current moment. To be Jewish means to be a rejector of Christ. Simple as. You can learn about other religions but you can't talk about Jesus or read the New Testament. The Rabbi is there to keep Jews from the light of Christ. Look up the numerous testimonials of ex-Jews who were baptized into the Catholic or Orthodox churches.
@YardenJZ
@YardenJZ 5 ай бұрын
I have to say that its isn't true that Orthodox Judaism does not recognise conversions. There are specific, regulated mechanisms for it even in the most closed-off branches of Ultra-orthodox Judaism. And about the destruction of the Temple, what a bout the first time around. There are no major recorded miracles that I can think of that happened to the entire nation during that exile. All they had is prayer. If someone could not theoretically survive this exile, would they have survived the previous one? If you ask Jews, they will not at all say God has been silent throughout their recent history. With respect, and I say this as a Jewish convert to Catholicism, it seems to me that this video was made with Christianity's being true in mind. While its s true that Christianity is true, that cannot be a working supposition when looking into another religion. It would have been interesting to see you try to tackle Judaism's best responses to the issues you raised.
@doomerdaniel
@doomerdaniel 3 ай бұрын
Tell me my friend. I am in a moment of high self doubt about my faith (catholic), and have been considering judaism as i did the first time i sought God. What made you convert and leave judaism? What make you think catholicism is true?
@verum-in-omnibus1035
@verum-in-omnibus1035 5 ай бұрын
The modern political state of Israel is not the direct descendants of the ancient Hebrews, the Israelites. They are Ashkenazi Jews. Eastern European, mostly Turkish people who converted to Judaism. That is why the religion is completely different, and they are fairly light skinned. They are not the true Israel.
@JohnSmith-qx8ll
@JohnSmith-qx8ll 4 ай бұрын
The Catholic Church is the true Israel -- the new covenant.
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 Ай бұрын
Most Israelis are not Ashkenazi so that pretty much kills your theory.
@JohnSmith-qx8ll
@JohnSmith-qx8ll Ай бұрын
@@thedude9941 no
@thedude9941
@thedude9941 Ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-qx8ll It's just facts try not to get butthurt.
@JohnSmith-qx8ll
@JohnSmith-qx8ll Ай бұрын
@@thedude9941 try not to be a chewfag
@joejones363
@joejones363 5 ай бұрын
Why do you say a person can't convert to Orthodox Judaism? Isn't that what Ruth did? Was Abraham born a Jew?
@sengan2475
@sengan2475 5 ай бұрын
He's talking about today. If you have no Jewish blood in you, you will have an extremely hard time converting, and they'll never see you as a true jew even so
@albertito77
@albertito77 5 ай бұрын
You're not the first person to suggest that the destruction of the Jerusalem temple was God's way of definitively removing his bessing from the Jewish people. According to modern Jews, their Rabbis can sometimes have a Pope-like authority and their halachic rulings can come pretty close to ongoing revelation as Orthodox Judaism is practiced. Hasidic Judaism goes even further with the supernatural honor they give to their holy men. Some of the language they use could also be used by a Christian to talk about Jesus.
@angelafrankenschloss9627
@angelafrankenschloss9627 5 ай бұрын
You mean like the Rebbe Mordecai Mendel Schnierson (did I spell that right ✅?) of The Chabad Lubbovichers for example (probably even the most quintessential one) whom they consider to be the real Moshiach for the Jewish ✡ People? And just as I was writing the previous line of this reply I suddenly realized the near phonetic and literary similarity between "Moshiach", Hebrew for "Messiah", and the name of "Moses", and I don't believe in "Coincidences". (As Einstein famously said, "God doesn't roll dice". It's true. Gambling, is after all, a sin. 😄)
@theurzamachine
@theurzamachine 5 ай бұрын
You don't have to be Jewish to delve deeper into Jewish scripture such as the Talmud.
@vacantmemes
@vacantmemes 5 ай бұрын
Talmud is satanic
@sengan2475
@sengan2475 5 ай бұрын
The Talmud says Jesus is boiling in excrement
@Centurion556
@Centurion556 5 ай бұрын
Yes read Sanhedrin 54b-55a and gittin 57
@theurzamachine
@theurzamachine 5 ай бұрын
@@Centurion556 Very informative read!
@Grandlett
@Grandlett 5 ай бұрын
More people should read this!
@jamesms4
@jamesms4 5 ай бұрын
Time 4:56 yeh you can choose to be chosen. Judaism accepts converts so being wee English doesn't disqualify you. But of course that having been said Catholic is Judaism now that the Messiah has come where as Judaism is Proto Catholicism b4 the Messiah came.
@lucas1216br
@lucas1216br 5 ай бұрын
dangerous topic.
@danosaur111
@danosaur111 4 ай бұрын
Of course Orthodox Judaism accepts converts. Yes, you will have to be convincing why that is so important to you to convert. But they will accept you. There are a lot of converts in the Torah and even Egyptians who left Egypt together with the Israelites and received the Torah at mount Sinai became Jews that day.
@pierrevillemaire-brooks4247
@pierrevillemaire-brooks4247 4 ай бұрын
Jesus is my spiritual master , but I wish other prominent religions weren't so exclusive or reclusive.
@aboynamedpseuwithphilgibso935
@aboynamedpseuwithphilgibso935 5 ай бұрын
God went silent because they rejected Him (Jesus Christ) as their Lord and Savior. This is apostasy and heresy. That should be reason enough to answer your question.
@sharonlee7111
@sharonlee7111 4 ай бұрын
Show me where it says in the Hebrew.Scriptures which supposedly your book is based on where god said he's sending a man to die for anyone's sins ?
@user-zs3vd5np2s
@user-zs3vd5np2s 5 ай бұрын
A good video actually. Respect. We Jews have never sought to convert gentiles; it’s possible, but rabbis have to reject one three times before they can even start their conversion, and even then they can drop whenever they choose. I, & many Jews, are just fine with gentiles being good Christians & following the 7 commandments of the sons of Noah.
@MultiJpad
@MultiJpad 5 ай бұрын
Bishop Sheen once said " if Christianity didn't exist i would probably join the second most persecuted religion" i think he meant Judaism. , i agree with Bishop Sheen.
@nobilisartorivs
@nobilisartorivs 5 ай бұрын
Bishop Sheen had no clue when it came to zionism
@MultiJpad
@MultiJpad 5 ай бұрын
@@nobilisartorivs nothing wrong with Jews having their own homeland
@WestsidePredator
@WestsidePredator 5 ай бұрын
@@MultiJpadeverything wrong with that actually.
@harleymann2086
@harleymann2086 5 ай бұрын
I like what C.S. Lewis said, “I Christianity wasn’t true, I would become a Hindu”.
@sethn1094
@sethn1094 5 ай бұрын
@@harleymann2086 I'd probably become a Buddhist because if I'm going to believe in nothing then I might as well commit lol
@jamesms4
@jamesms4 5 ай бұрын
Time 15:40 is awesome !
@messianic-resources
@messianic-resources 5 ай бұрын
Why not Messianic Judaism? Messianic Judaism contains people of both Jewish and Gentile origin. There is no discrimination when it comes to genuine Messianic Judaism. Also, while mainstream Judaism rejects the true Messiah, Yeshua, Messianic Judaism does not have the same problem. Remember that Jesus was a Torah observant Jew, who taught the Torah (Matthew 23:1-3). When it was presented to me, it wasn't presented as Jesus in addition to Judaism, but rather the Judaism of Jesus.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 5 ай бұрын
Messianic Judaism rejects the idea that Jesus founded the Catholic Church as the one true church. My guess is that would be his answer.
@messianic-resources
@messianic-resources 5 ай бұрын
@@markpugner9716 maybe he would, but that is circular reasoning. If he made that claim, he would be claiming that the Catholic religion is true, because the Catholic Church is the one true church, and that is true because the Catholic religion is true. Do you see the problem? Of course, this is all hypothetical since he hasn't said anything yet. You have simply spoken for him. I would argue that if one has "the truth" according to the word of God, they will keep the Biblical definition of "truth." What is the Biblical definition of "truth?" Psalm 119:142 (TLV): Your justice is righteousness forever, and Your Torah is truth.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 5 ай бұрын
@@messianic-resources No, I don't see the problem, because that's not what I mean. The Catholic Church is, in their eyes, not the one true church because their religion is true. Rather, it is the one true church because Jesus started the Catholic Church specifically. With regard to Messianic Judaism, the Catholic perspective would be that while they acknowledge Christ as their Lord and Saviour, but won't have as full of a relationship with God as he intended people to have as a full, participating member of the system he started when Jesus started what is now called the Catholic Church. Considering that Brian acts like he considers himself a practicing Catholic, I would guess that he shares in the Catholic Church's stance on this issue. Yeah, I'm speaking for him, but I dare say the odds are in my favour.
@messianic-resources
@messianic-resources 5 ай бұрын
@@markpugner9716 all that matters however, is God's perspective. Not Messianic Judaism, nor Catholicism. The Catholic Church makes their own tradition equal to Scripture. This is something the Pharisees did too, and Yeshua condemned them for doing so. Mark 7:8-13 (TLV): Having left behind the commandment of God, you hold on to the tradition of men.” He was also telling them, “You set aside the commands of God, in order that you may validate your own tradition. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say if anyone tells his father or mother, ‘Whatever you might have gained from me is korban (that is, an offering to God),’ then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother, making void the word of God with your tradition that you’ve handed down. And you do many such things.” The fact is, the Catholic Church does not keep God's commandments and the faith of Yeshua, as Revelation specifically indicates the holy ones do according to Revelation 14:12. Instead, they replace by adding to and taking from the Torah, something that is expressly forbidden by God according to Deuteronomy 12:32-13:5. According to that passage, the Catholic Church is a group of false prophets. Nothing more.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 5 ай бұрын
@@messianic-resources I don't care what you think matters. You can interpret scriptures to mean whatever you want and condemn whomever you want. I'm just guessing at what Brian's answer to your question, with his alignment with the Catholic Church's teaching and interpretations of scriptures, would be.
@EricRuskoski
@EricRuskoski 4 ай бұрын
Correct, God is not done with them yet, Jesus is their messiah and fulfilled the law and the prophecy's, and God will still fulfill his promises to them, Jesus is the line of David, the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Jesus is also the son of God and equal with God the Father and the Holy Spirit. What he did living a righteous life and fulfilling the law of God, and dyeing on the cross and raising again from the dead. This allows us to not try to establish our own righteousness before God, which will always fail because it will never measure up to his own righteousness, which he compares it to! But! Be credited with his by our faith in this truth! This is as a Gift from God so we cannot boast. Super awesome, just wanted to add that part.
@Rynopb
@Rynopb 5 ай бұрын
Brian I love the way you say the name of Jesus. It's kinda cute
@user-sd6yu1xs4g
@user-sd6yu1xs4g 5 ай бұрын
Sounds so Gay
@lemokemo5752
@lemokemo5752 4 ай бұрын
There are converts to ORTHODOX Judaism.
@zzycatch
@zzycatch 4 ай бұрын
The chicken goes to heaven.
@bradbarnes1839
@bradbarnes1839 Ай бұрын
"Their father is the father of lies"
@nz7921
@nz7921 3 күн бұрын
Of course you CAN become an orthodox jew!! but it's hard work...lots of studies. A convert is referred to a "Ger Tsedek" and is regarded very highly by "born" jews.
@ventusborealis2414
@ventusborealis2414 5 ай бұрын
The first christian believers were messianic jewish. Our Lord Saviour's family were jewish. Lady Miriam (Mary) is a jewish mother and father Josef were King David's descendant. Yeshua was born as Ben David like Talmud teaches haMashiach will come first and the second coming of the Messiah will be Ben David. Jesus will come soon again in Glory and the house of David will be re-established. We should know the first 40 years after Yeshua's death on the cross and resurrection, the follovers of Yeshua gathered in the Temple of Jerusalem even daily and they observed those customs like immercing in ritual bath mikveh just before entering the Temple area. The follovers of Yeshua did those alljewish practises in the name of Yeshua differing other jewish sects. The first followers of Yeshua were like jewish at that time and also in the Talmudic texts at that time shows they were honored among other jewish people but later on the Middle Ages those Talmud text were changed polemic way. Nowadays the historians and archeologists in Israel think that the early christians were one jewish sect and it's roots are more pharisaic not sadducean. Later when more pagan origin people converted to christianity the church fathers were antisemitists and made huge mistakes and changed many crusial things, like calendar and festivals etc. I think catholic traditions (Latin mass etc) are rich and beautiful and we can practise them but we should same time remember that Jesus and His discibles didn't do those practises and that tradition is much later. Knowing old jewish traditions enriches our understanding about Yeshua and the life of His jewish followers. Antijewish attitudes are not the fruit of the Spirit. Loving jewish people and wanting to learn the jewish perspective in the Bible doesn't lead away from Yeshua, on the contrary. Messianic jewish scholars like "One for Israel" are perhaps the best christian teachers today.
@loreman7267
@loreman7267 5 ай бұрын
Gentile converts were made exempt from the Torah in Acts ch 15, after the household of Cornelius started spontaneously praying in tongues while the Apostles were preaching to them. The whole household, which would have included slaves and children, were baptised on the spot.
@WhiteChocolate74
@WhiteChocolate74 Ай бұрын
The major flaw with Judaism that I see is that 99% of people in the world have no recourse to God.
@YBenjamin1996
@YBenjamin1996 4 ай бұрын
Sad to say that Brian is deeply mistaken about conversion to Orthodox Judaism. I grew up in the Orthodox ("non modern/secular" to put it more in Brian's word) and there were plenty of converts. Its a complete fallacy that conversion is not possible in Orthodox Judaism. Brian's assertion that conversion to Orthodox Judaism is not allowed is almost akin to saying that pork is kosher.
@JohnPrepuce
@JohnPrepuce 4 ай бұрын
Not only that, but there were even converts to Judaism in the Old Testament. As long as there have been Jews, there have been converts.
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 5 ай бұрын
Don't be a liberalized Vatican 2 Catholic. Be the real thing, Traditional
@alangervasis
@alangervasis 5 ай бұрын
What did he say that was not traditional ??
@Simon_Alexnder
@Simon_Alexnder Ай бұрын
The basic faith of Orthodox Judaism is just Leviticus 26:44.
@MichaelSmith-ym2rz
@MichaelSmith-ym2rz 4 ай бұрын
If you accept that God made all humans and cares for them than what about the other 98.8 % of the people who arent Jewish? I believe that is an essential part of Jesus' incarnation.
@santiagodelpilar6701
@santiagodelpilar6701 5 ай бұрын
Because you are not a Judaizer like some people from Pedowood with german, czech and ukrainian last names
@heatherwhitehead3743
@heatherwhitehead3743 4 ай бұрын
This seems silly. Once you meet Christ there's no turning back. More interesting would be WHY i am not a zionist. Any catholic that embraces that movement cancels themselves as one. It makes me sick how few have the courage to speak.
@jamesms4
@jamesms4 5 ай бұрын
I keep replying to the Jew bashers and my posts keep getting eaten...
@Mark36896
@Mark36896 16 күн бұрын
You can convert to traditional Judaism, but the Jews are not a church; in Hebrew they are an “AM” or a “people.” However, Jewish identity is matrilineal, that is, carried through the mother, and not the father. If the child’s mother is Jewish, then the child is Jewish. If the father is Jewish and the mother is not, then the child is considered non-Jewish. But anybody can covert to traditional Judaism. Jesus was from the House of David, through Joseph, but his Jewishness can through his biological mother Mary. It is through Mary the Incarnation happened, and occurred within time and space, in Judea two thousand years ago.
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 5 ай бұрын
The 'Current Era' AD calendar was first instanced in the year 535 CE by Dionysius Exiguus, the 25th of December being the pagan holiday of the roman deity 'Sol Invictus' is clearly shown in the "Chronograph of 354" the earliest christian calendar, predating the current one. In the old testament Abijah was a wicked king, and had war with his rival (1. Kings 15:3). 2 Chronicles 13:3 says that Abjiah was pious ; that he took the field with 400,000 men against Jeroboam, who was at the head of 800,000 men ; and in a great battle the King of Israel was defeated, and 500,000 of his men slain. It seems that, 1,200,000 soldiers sent into the field at one time by two small tribes, and the destruction of 500,000 men in one battle, were beneath the notice of the author of Kings. Textual criticism in christianity began when the bible was first translated into european vernavular in the 16th century (was translated into Arabic in the 19th century), it reached a professional level around the 19-20th century and is still ongoing today, In Islam however it started in the first century. Unlike the Quran, the hadith are transmitted oral accounts which were written 2-3 centuries after they happened and even in the canonical collections of Bukhari and Muslim there are several narrations of the same hadith due to some people paraphrasing and others forgetting part of it. Most of the hadith are without context, this is not to take from the value of hadith as in practice it was the first serious endeavor of having authentication of the historical record. The hadith are transmitted by way of chains of narration, x heard from y who heard from z that .... took place, a study of who x, who y, and who z were and whether what they are saying is true by checking what others had said about them and whether they had indeed met those who they are purported to have taken the accounts from began and so the first "peer review" mechanism took place, all before the internet in the 2nd and 3rd centuries fo the hijra, which unlike the christian calendar has been continuously kept, the writing down of hadith was forbidden by the prophet himself for the aforementioned issue (people forgetting, paraphrasing, taking words out of context) only the Quran was ordered to have been written and linguistically they are too far apart, it is clear that the Matn of the hadith, the substance or the wording was altered as the language used seems to be more modern in many instances (Arabic had not changed in any significant way since the Abbassids, 1200 years ago sound as "modern" as things written in the last 50 years. Arabic is the oldest continuously spoken language in the world, the only possible corollary, chinese, has script which has no relation to the actual language hence why Japanese and old vietnamese use it, event the script itself was only codified in the 1700s in the kangxi emperor's dictionary. A miracle in plainsight blinded by familiarity). Hadith for example has several levels of correctness, from Hasan which means "well" to rejected as pertains to the Matn or the substance of the hadith itself, The isnad of the Hadith or the chains of transmission / citation also have varying levels from Marfu' meaning quoted without having actually met any of the people in the transmission chain or a second hand account or Mudalas meaning plagarised from another transmitter of hadith without citing and Marfud meaning outright rejected for various reasons, there is another layer of complexity here called ilm-aa-rijal, the study of the bibilogrophy of those in the chains of transmission themselves and their soundness whether objectively by crosschecking where they lived and whom they met or subjectively by seeing what their peers said about them regarding their character Those unaware of the aforementioned would not only have not been allowed to cite hadith it would have been a criminal offense and there are hadith which clearly contradict one another and one ought not be citing hadith without knowing all other hadith from the colossal hadith collections that were written, even the earliest hadith collection, Musannaf Abdel Razaq Al-Sanani ( 137-211H / 744- 827 CE) and Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shaybah ( 159H-235H / 775-849 CE). for instance had over 53,000 hadith with their chains of transmissions included ahas yet to be translated into English . Yes, Bukhari and Muslim are taken the most correct as they had the most narrow criterion, but an enormous study is required before citing either one of them. Later scholars such an Al-Darqutni show that there were mistakes made. I say later here though he is still over a millennium old this seriousness of scholarship was the first endeavor of its kind in human history, what became today known as university degrees started with the institutions giving "ijaza" or certificate t transmit hadith and talk about it , indeed they are the origins of the University system we know today. There are texts from the 800's CE debating whether, if one for example were to take a log of wood that was not theirs, make a column out of it and have it as a foundation of a house, later the original owner of the column comes back and demands the log to be retrieved into his custody and refuse monetary compensation ought the judge comply, tear down the structure and give him the log or ought he enforce a monetary compensation. this was 1200 years ago back when in the west they were hilariously pondering questions like the video here. property rights were taken that seriously, you could not simply handwave it and enforce a monetary compensation as that property in question was not attained by proper channels, hence it' s ownership and how much ought be the compensation for it is judicated by its owner and no one else has the right to, not the governor or even the caliph. Stephen Langton, the writer of the Magna Carta (12th century, contemporary with the crusades for a reason) studied in the university of Paris which archives show had plenty of Arabic treatises in its procession, there can be no question about it being inspired by the "Sharia". Jabir Ibn Hayyan (101-199 H / 721-815 CE) the father of chemistry whose theories (distillation, measurement system, oxidaton, nature of substances, etc) remained dominant until the 18th century. and who was the first to elucidate the scientific method said: "The first thing that is required for anyone who seeks the knowledge of chemistry is that he should work with his hands and experiment, for he who does not work with his hands and does not experiment will not attain any degree of knowledge." Ibn al-Haytham (4th century of Hijra), referred to as "the Physicist" in Europe is famous for the first comprehensive scientific book on optics, before his study of optics and perspective paintings were entirely 2 dimensional, a leap after his treatises and works were translated is visible in how paintings became three dimensional, He discovered integral calculus (physicist, mathematician and astronomer who discovered calculus, Newton often references Arabic in his writings for a reason), is even still argued with today the work "The Enigma of Reason" primarily deals with his arguments. regarding the scientific method he said "The duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and... attack it from every side. He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency." This scientific method of studying hadith and jurisprudence was developed and already in practice in the 2nd and third centuries of the hijra (around 800 CE) back when most of europe did not have a written script for their vernacular, enormous encyclopedia such as the 40 volume history of Al-Tabari which, averages 400 pages per volume (and is only one of his works) were written, the only corollary of which in the west would have been the "decline and Fall of The Roman Empire" by Edward Gibbons in the 1700s, considered a watershed, a monument of its time, with a span that would have hardly constituted a volume and a half of Al-Tabari's encyclopedia and written a millennium later, indeed over the last millennium the collection of Arabic manuscripts when compared on word-per-word basis in Western Museums alone, when they are compared with the collected Greek and Latin manuscripts combined, the latter does not constitute 1 percent of the former as per German professor Frank Griffel speaks volumes as to whom civilisation ought to be ascribed to if one were to compare camps. Both the renaissance and the european enlightenment were directly preceded by massive translation movements form Arabic (see the The Republic of Arabic Letters: Islam and the European Enlightenment by Alexander Bevilacqua, The House of Wisdom: How the Arabs Transformed Western Civilization By Jonathan Lyons) What started this intellectual revolution, what started this sharp contrast between before Islam and after it, what started the real Enlightenment of humanity? God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 5 ай бұрын
I'm curious, did you write this here or did you paste it in from somewhere else?
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 5 ай бұрын
I did.
@cameron1366
@cameron1366 5 ай бұрын
"why i wasn't born into the funny hat tribe" wow what a compelling concept for a video.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 5 ай бұрын
You are an antisemite who talks like the secularists, not a Catholic
@sololoquy3783
@sololoquy3783 5 ай бұрын
if you love tradition, EO is probably the better denom. Catholicism is grounded in tradition, but the church seems to prioritize mission more than tradition. If you know anything about the historical RC, she had to break tradition quite a few times either due to circumstances, or to fulfill its mission (bringing the kingdom of heaven on earth).
@sengan2475
@sengan2475 5 ай бұрын
He's not looking for a denomination based on what he likes best. But by what is true
@sololoquy3783
@sololoquy3783 5 ай бұрын
@@sengan2475 Many converts enter Catholicism looking for tradition. Sees things changing, disappointed, then became schismatic. It's problematic, especially with one with such a huge reach. Which is why I think EO is the better fit for people looking for tradition. I'm afraid, too much converts are peeling away one of the most core part of Catholicism, which is to follow Rome. Trad movement genuinely troubles me, especially seeing many of them are protestant converts. I pray I'm just old & paranoid.
@sebastianofmilan
@sebastianofmilan 5 ай бұрын
@@sololoquy3783 do you consider yourself Catholic?
@dan-ch8kr
@dan-ch8kr 5 ай бұрын
Filioque
@sengan2475
@sengan2475 5 ай бұрын
​@sololoquy3783 are you saying they'd be better off becoming orthodox than potentially cause scandal in the catholic church by leaving?
@GregoryMcElhaney
@GregoryMcElhaney 5 ай бұрын
You can convert . There are coverts to the Jewish faith. BUT , you would have to deny Christ.
@norala-gx9ld
@norala-gx9ld 5 ай бұрын
Brian, where did you hear that it’s impossible to convert to Orthodox Judaism? That’s news to me. Also, trust me, studying the history of Christianity does not inevitably lead to Rome or Orthodoxy. Finally, the Roman Catholic Church had anything but a benevolent attitude toward the Jews until after Vatican 2. I’m very suspicious of your channel after this video.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 2 ай бұрын
Suspicious in what way?
@barelyprotestant5365
@barelyprotestant5365 5 ай бұрын
Brian, I do not know why you so constantly misrepresent the traditions of which you are not a part. My complaint in this video concerns your false claims starting at 8:02. It is not only the Roman Catholics and the various branches of the Eastern Communions who hold to the elements you gave from the Patristics (Episcopacy, Sacraments, Sacrificial Priesthood). Old Catholics, Anglicans, and Lutherans all hold to these elements as well. Also, Orthodox Judaism does allow for conversions. Please, please, PLEASE stop misrepresenting other traditions.
@Jewish_Israeli_Zionist
@Jewish_Israeli_Zionist 4 ай бұрын
Good because we don't encourage people to convert to our religion (it's possible though, but it's a super difficult and long process). I still think that Catholicism is just a Greco-Roman copy of Judaism.
@BongBing11
@BongBing11 Күн бұрын
Eh, not really. Catholicism keeps many facets of Second Temple Judaism that Rabbinic Jews have rejected over time.
@mementomori1483
@mementomori1483 5 ай бұрын
Kabbalah, Zohar, Talmud.
@jamesms4
@jamesms4 5 ай бұрын
What is with the antisemitic attacks on the Talmud and why can I not respond to them?
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