Why Parents Bully Their Children

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The School of Life

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Жыл бұрын

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One of the strangest and saddest phenomena of psychological life is that there are parents, too many parents, who end up - while sometimes only half realising it - bullying their own children. The bullying may take many forms. Why do parents bully their children?
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“One of the strangest and saddest phenomena of psychological life is that there are parents, too many parents, who end up - while sometimes only half realising it - bullying their own children.
The bullying may take many forms. Why do parents bully their children? In short, in order to try to feel better about themselves. Because they suffer intensely in the very same area that they are bullying their child in. If we, as children, want to know what our parents were afraid of or haunted by, we only need to ask: in what areas did they bully me? What did they make me feel scared or inadequate about? Someone made them feel awful and they surmise - by twisted logic - that they will feel better through the process of making their own child feel very bad indeed; they aren’t doing it personally, the child is collateral damage to a misguided project of healing and attenuation of symptoms. It doesn’t make any sense of course, but it may actually work for the parent, for a time.”
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@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
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@ragib19jro30
@ragib19jro30 Жыл бұрын
What books can I read to know about related topics?Thank you
@n4870s
@n4870s Жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the opposite? Too much positive and praising not in line with reality for the kid, can this have negative effect on the person? Like creating false self confidence, demanding/entitled person?
@nizasiamehenry
@nizasiamehenry Жыл бұрын
Noted
@louisisindahouse
@louisisindahouse Жыл бұрын
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@erikburzinski8248
@erikburzinski8248 Жыл бұрын
This is why a child phycology course should be MANDATORY in highschool (I am the person who doesn't plan on haveing kids and won't use it and will gladly sacrifice 1 class of highschool to lower accidental child abuse.)
@nebana4995
@nebana4995 Жыл бұрын
I wish all parents did some inner work before they become parents.
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
A very wise suggestion!
@nywaaahln
@nywaaahln Жыл бұрын
fr
@kyupified2440
@kyupified2440 Жыл бұрын
The reason im going childless, i cant become a mother unless i know im mentally healthy
@skyejacques
@skyejacques Жыл бұрын
We all have karmic contracts with the parents... And self help and healing only became a thing in the 80s so they didn't have good parenting
@bloom4807
@bloom4807 Жыл бұрын
Idk, some parents are just psychopaths. ‘Inner work’ just stop being an asshole.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
It's really heartbreaking learning that your parents may have subconsciously belittled or verbally abused you growing up because they suffered the same thing in their own childhood, and they may not even recognise it as abuse.
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Few abusers will ever accept that they are perpetrators. The psychology of abuse always ascribes such behaviour to less malign - even noble - motives.
@3to4characters
@3to4characters Жыл бұрын
I vow that I will never bully my children and will always think if it'll hurt them or not before saying it, or doing it.
@ElreyRayo
@ElreyRayo Жыл бұрын
Very possibly
@TobiasHinz1992
@TobiasHinz1992 Жыл бұрын
Or they just did it consciously, like my parents did.
@ravenx0x033
@ravenx0x033 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I feel like it doesn't always give parents any ease of mind, rather its a projection to attack theirself through the child(ren). I'm some cases of course.
@marianabrasil1179
@marianabrasil1179 Жыл бұрын
A lot of these people know exactly what they're doing, they just don't care because since children have almost no agency and are seem as the parent's property, they think they'll face no consequences from that behaviour. Fast forward a few years, and the now grown up children want nothing to do with their toxic parents anymore (and they wonder why no one calls or wants to visit them).
@daryl9799
@daryl9799 Жыл бұрын
Exactly my Dad bullied me as a child we have never had a relationship of any sort have zero desire to talk to him.
@jarkachalmovianska7812
@jarkachalmovianska7812 Жыл бұрын
What they dont realize is the child will grow up and destroy them
@ryanschwartz1593
@ryanschwartz1593 Жыл бұрын
No but you see, if a lifetime of humiliation, degradation, aggression, and emotional and physical violence for the sake of control and offloading their intolerable feelings fail to make an adult child want to spend time with their parent, the parent can always use guilt and shame to engender this desire in the child. Because if making us feel bad led us not to want to associate with them, making us feel worse will accomplish it (sarcasm, but this is the typical logic).
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
There was a home nurse that I used to live with as a roommate and she would tell me how she would take care of people who were older and lots of time their own family didn't visit them very often and things like that as if the children were bad and the parents were good but I always wondered maybe there is more going on. Now that my parents are getting older I don't want to be their care-takers or even their parent figure. A family that is broken and toxic never improves.
@pickledpepper6576
@pickledpepper6576 Жыл бұрын
This comment right here! Yes! Exactly!
@affirmationsfortoday
@affirmationsfortoday Жыл бұрын
Bullying children is such a common thing where I come from, that if you try to help the child, you are attacked. Recently I witnessed a mother slap her baby. The baby started crying and was gasping for breath. When I went to speak to the woman and said, "you know this is abuse, right?" it triggered her and she started yelling at me. I was new in this place, and had moved during the pandemic, so I did not know anyone yet. This woman started a defamation campaign against me, garnering support from her friends, and spent the entire day ranting against me on the community whatsapp group. She called ME dangerous. All this because I had tried to defend her baby when she had been bullying it.
@nhopkins9040
@nhopkins9040 Жыл бұрын
Get a gun license if ya know what I mean
@jJust_NO_
@jJust_NO_ Жыл бұрын
jesus.. that kind of memory and actual experience will just keep me disturbed for many days. i cant even be ok witnessing a crying animal knowing how vulnerable and powerless it is given its agency. as humans, given a higher capacity of mind, we are suppose to act better. its excusable if one genuinely doesnt know the right way to act, but if one knows, however faint the voice of conscience is, its still utterly despairing to choose negatively.
@carnifaxx
@carnifaxx Жыл бұрын
I understand it very well, I was often ridiculed when I told someone their behaviour towards their children is abuse. The main argument is that they "need to learn how to be strong." The parents consider themselves strong (learned the same way), but they are just unable to control their own aggressivity towards someone weaker and smaller, that's not strength. Physical punishments are unfortunately not illegal in our country, so until the child is severely harmed, nothing can be done to protect them :(
@MasterJongXG
@MasterJongXG Жыл бұрын
Would really suggest to involve the Police and CPS if the situation doesn't change for the better.
@larapalma3744
@larapalma3744 Жыл бұрын
That's projecting
@Manu-ih7zf
@Manu-ih7zf Жыл бұрын
Childhood is considered to be the most dangerous time in life. 🥺
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
Certainly, childhood is the most crucial time in one's life - when so many things can (and do) go wrong for us.
@allieharmon3926
@allieharmon3926 Жыл бұрын
The most unprotected class of citizens is a Black/Indigenous/Immigrant child. The laws are made that way. It's heartbreaking
@koenv.i.9188
@koenv.i.9188 Жыл бұрын
@@allieharmon3926 oh really? which laws in particular.
@NBnNC
@NBnNC Жыл бұрын
Especially if you’re born to unhealed confused people 😢
@Killua_Zoldyck3407
@Killua_Zoldyck3407 Жыл бұрын
Especially when you're born in an Asian family 💀 (my mom is asian and my dad is white)
@CraigSimmonds
@CraigSimmonds Жыл бұрын
Realising that parents often hurt their kids because someone once hurt them was such a pivotal lesson for me and helped a lot with the healing process
@Nona.masak14
@Nona.masak14 Жыл бұрын
i hope the best for your healing journey 🫂🤍
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
Yes, people believe that they should give their child a "good smack" or that belittling the child will teach them a valuable lesson. And many parents stay drunk much of the time to dull their own emotions but drunk people often make insensitive and unhealthy choices.
@calexprenas
@calexprenas Жыл бұрын
I think sometimes they do it because they’re unhappy / insecure and kids are easy targets to bully. Of course they may have had formative experiences that contributed to that unhappiness but as adults they’re responsible for their own actions - especially if they know they are hurting or upsetting their children.
@HOLLYWOKEtv
@HOLLYWOKEtv Жыл бұрын
So what did you learn ? (Honest question. Because I see so many of this 'exact' statement, but never explained further).
@testtest2609
@testtest2609 Жыл бұрын
Alice Miller's book "For Your Own Good" is THE best book on parental abuse & it's preservation in Western pedagogy.
@priscillapark46
@priscillapark46 Жыл бұрын
"I'm not awful, something awful happened to me." Hits hard
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this statement (because I feel I am messed up from the abuse I suffered). I get upset when people say “you control your emotions” and “you can’t use your past as an excuse”. When really we all are shaped by our past.
@matthewatwood8641
@matthewatwood8641 Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@princessmarlena1359
@princessmarlena1359 Жыл бұрын
@@kittycat8222 those who say “It’s the past, get over it!” are typically bullies themselves, or never got over their own trauma from being bullied so they lash out at others and bully them with those mean, trivializing statements.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Жыл бұрын
@@princessmarlena1359 great point. My mom used to always say “Hurt people hurt”. I used to think it was a little bit of an excuse until I grew up and realized how “our past” really effects us daily in how we feel when reacting to stimuli that is negative or overwhelming. 🙏🏻
@IwatchDogandCatsFight.
@IwatchDogandCatsFight. Жыл бұрын
@@kittycat8222 you can never use your past as an excuse, you should still apologize for the people you hurt just because you have trauma doesn't mean giving others the same treatment you experienced is a good thing An excuse is an explanation but never the excuse to not apologize
@Itsmeshree99
@Itsmeshree99 Жыл бұрын
To all the parents out there. Never relate or associate love and care with bullying, cursing and insulting!!!!
@ap3008
@ap3008 Жыл бұрын
I strive to not engage in those behaviours if I ever will have a child.
@godnyx117
@godnyx117 Жыл бұрын
Yeah right because like with everything out there, the people who need to see this, will centennially do!
@jb689
@jb689 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting thought! Reading this I realized what my husband (whom I suspect being narcissistic) is doing to our kids. When they did something wrong and he gets mad, he tells them that it's because of his CARE for them. He cares about them and what they will become, therefore he gets mad with them. He says that somebody who is indifferent would naturally not get mad. What do you think?
@chrisrobin4962
@chrisrobin4962 Жыл бұрын
@@jb689 How often does he apologize to them when he does a mistake? I can get mad at my children but I always say sorry when I know Im wrong. I hope that someday they take that with them, no matter the age you should be able to say sorry.
@jb689
@jb689 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisrobin4962 No apologies there. He's always right in his anger and as I said, his point of view is that he does it out of care / love for them.
@rastiu5232
@rastiu5232 Жыл бұрын
It seems a popular idea to absolve people of the harm they've cause their children because 'they were hurt too', or 'they didn't realise what they were doing'. Perhaps in some mild cases, but in cases like mine where there was a couple of decades of bullying (and more), the parent makes a conscious decision over a long period of time to take out their frustrations on their child, to feel powerful by making someone else feel weak and humiliated. It is deliberate, and the damage is caused on purpose - many parents cannot control this sadistic impulse that arises from a defect in character and personal failures. There are no excuses for bullying your own child, and I don't think anyone does it by accident.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
Yep, that resonates and I agree. Some parents have a sadistic part of themselves. It is also quite obvious in how they are never sorry for what they do. They enjoy hurting their children. They never change or mature no matter how old they get. Then they get really old and frankly their bad personality just gets worse as they age.
@selfthinker
@selfthinker Жыл бұрын
It's not about absolving or excusing, it's about understanding. And understanding helps healing.
@faithmundia
@faithmundia Жыл бұрын
I agree with this. Some parents enjoy hurting and bullying their children. When your worst psychological pain comes from your parent, it takes maturity and learning to accept their faults so as not to be affected by their sadistic torment
@KristiContemplates
@KristiContemplates Жыл бұрын
"You think your better than me?" Weirdly too many of these parents think that this is good parenting, namely because they were told it was how good parenting is done by their own bullies, and they never questioned it
@Emzo99
@Emzo99 Жыл бұрын
I’m so scared of doing anything like this to my children
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
Hi Emma. A healthy awareness of just how easy it is to inflict a version of one's own past suffering onto one's child is a vital step in halting the inheritance of trauma.
@user-xd4pn9jz1i
@user-xd4pn9jz1i Жыл бұрын
Don’t have children.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Likewise, but your awareness may just help you, since you're conscious of the abuse, and are determined to stop the cycle from spreading further.
@NBnNC
@NBnNC Жыл бұрын
Be self-aware, do the work and you won’t 😌
@chrisrobin4962
@chrisrobin4962 Жыл бұрын
Yes and keep letting them know when you do something wrong.
@pollyanna1112
@pollyanna1112 Жыл бұрын
My experience - I was bullied and abused by both parents. Abuse - sexual, physical, emotional, mental from both parents. My father began the sexual abuse on me when I was a baby of only two weeks old and continued right through into my adult years. I thought that was what parents did, I didn’t know it was abuse, I knew it hurt, that I was scared every single time, that I hated every touch - my mother joined in (under his control) and was made to do things no mother should ever do to a child. . (In my 40s when I finally recognised that it was sexual abuse, I told my Aunt + she instantly believed me. She told me that she had changed my diaper when I was 2-3 weeks old + there was blood etc + my father yelled at her for changing me + forbade her from ever changing me again. She was scared to interfere so never did anything at the time, but when I went to the police at age 42 she became a witness). Anyway, apart from the sexual abuse, the beatings, being starved, I was forced to eat everything on my plate, even if my cold mash potato made me vomit, my mother would mix my vomit into the mash potato and force me to eat it until my plate was clean. I believed I was stupid, ugly, because I’d constantly hear that my sister was the pretty one, my brother was the clever one, and I was the baby because I’d sit on the floor rocking back n forth, from toddler years right through to adulthood. Eventually, over time, I found out my father came from a sexually abusive family - all siblings (8) were sexually n physically abused by their father / my mother came from a family where her father was very strict but died when she was 11. My father was many years older than her (16) and started dating her when she was 13 and he was 29. Her mother was depressed due to her husbands sudden death so one less child to look after didn’t matter. Hence my father groomed my mother from the onset, hence her incapacity to be strong and confront him when she knew exactly what he was doing to me. By going to the Police and then through them, they arranged for therapy for me, I began to slowly recognise I needed to give myself permission to be safe, to be nurtured, to say No, no you will not abuse me anymore. Once I knew the police had ample evidence to charge my parents, I wrote to them to let them know I will no longer see them. I politely and calmly wrote about how I recognised that the abuse they did to me was not my fault, it was theirs. I let them know I will no longer keep their secrets, I will always speak out. I will become strong, safe, healthy - not because of them and not because of what they did to me, but I would become strong because I deserve to be and I had been strong from the day of my birth because I survived. Survived over 34 /thirty four years of constant abuse. I promised them that I would not just survive from then on, but I would thrive. I would rise up, fly, soar because I had the truth and their truth was out too. They could no longer hide behind our fake perfect family. The evidence was overwhelmingly strong. When they both died, I never went to their funerals. My brother n sister did. They remained controlled by them, even though they were older than me. My name wasn’t / isn’t on either parents tomb stone - my siblings didn’t put me on it as they wanted to have me invisible in the family history as it was too painful for them to face, knowing I’d told the police etc. I have never visited the graves. My aunt went one day, and let me know. I went 10 years without seeing speaking to my mother before her death and 19 for my father. I do not regret it. I had to take control of my life. I had to find my voice, to be safe, to learn how to connect to my emotions. I only went to the police in order to protect my nieces nephews from being abused in all ways. I never made a big public scene or a big family scene. Just quietly went to the police and they quietly gathered evidence. Then I sent my letter, which now that I think about it, I am surprised at how incredibly polite I was in my letter. How calm I was. How I didn’t even express anger or hate. I simply let them know the secrets were out and I was strong (etc). It’s strange what we are capable of surviving especially when we don’t recognise the war for what it is at the time, in those years of life, of growing.
@DanielleAbigail
@DanielleAbigail Жыл бұрын
Wow I am so sorry, you didn't deserve those things, I'm glad you've started to find peace
@ryanschwartz1593
@ryanschwartz1593 Жыл бұрын
You're a boss.
@MC-rw2bk
@MC-rw2bk Жыл бұрын
I hope you are living a good life now.
@rhythmandblues_alibi
@rhythmandblues_alibi Жыл бұрын
💜💜💜
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
I hope that you have a happy, healthy life from now on. You've been very strong.
@john_carter8243
@john_carter8243 Жыл бұрын
i never bully my kids... i was so bullied by my parents i never even HAD kids
@deejay1040
@deejay1040 Жыл бұрын
many such cases. stay strong.
@_tripalong
@_tripalong Жыл бұрын
The wisest choice.
@lindac6919
@lindac6919 Жыл бұрын
My parents were so obvious at making my sis the favorite, and ignoring or blaming me. So I decided I would have only one child, if any. Because favoritism sucks. Oh, yeah- and she turned her back on them and wouldn't even visit them on Christmas. But she always called them first when she needed cash. And when Mom was gone and Dad was home alone with dementia, she never set foot in his house for the final 3 yrs.
@stefanegstrup3145
@stefanegstrup3145 6 ай бұрын
Wise descicion.
@TheMazer-pk5bo
@TheMazer-pk5bo Жыл бұрын
I also think this bullying/abusing towards children by their own parents happens, because said parents take out their childhood “revenge” on their children, to avoid being jealous of their children’s lives, privileges and choices, that the parents themselves were never able to have or weren’t allowed to have.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think that jealousy is a motive for some parents.
@That.Lady.withtheYarn
@That.Lady.withtheYarn Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't doubt it.
@dauthenticexplorer1364
@dauthenticexplorer1364 Жыл бұрын
Even as a grown up they still bully me. I remain a child forever.
@nichola9164
@nichola9164 Жыл бұрын
My parents haunt me, they really do. Compared to so many other abuse stories, I don't even think my experiences were 'that' bad. It was how they made me feel. My Dad was so hateful, I remember around aged 11 things taking a turn where I felt he hated on me constantly. My mum used to complain about us arguing all the time, even threatening half-heartedly to leave as if I wasn't a child but an equal partner in the verbal abuse. I had strict rules, like not being allowed to leave the house or see friends, not shower in the morning for waking him up. Eventually he had me take out a bank account which he had control of and took my student finance and loans for 'keep'. I told him I wanted my freedom at 18 and he told me nothing would change. Only by dropping out of uni and throwing everything away did I escape. He belittled absolutely everything I enjoyed, banned me from talking about them because they were 'boring'. In my early teens I used to go to bed holding a pillow over my head hoping I wouldn't wake up, it just makes me so sad for that person because she is my foundation and I am now a mess of an adult that I can't see recovering. I have severe anxiety, depression at times and I don't feel I've achieved anything of worth. They used to tell me all the time about how the 'real' world was going to be a shock because I wouldn't cope and they were so right, but I can't help but feel they had a huge part in that. :-(.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
It is very upsetting to think of how awful your parents were. I hope you stay well away from them now. They sound like very nasty people. I hope that you can see a kindly, encouraging psychologist who can help you to develop self-confidence and self-caring.
@libbysherman1527
@libbysherman1527 Жыл бұрын
I hope and pray you are made whole and that you get peace in your situation. Even if you feel like you haven't achieved anything, you've probably achieved a lot of things that were never recognized the way they should have been. Jesus sees your struggles, but he also made you special with a very honorable purpose. One day you will find that purpose and you are going to do amazing things that will make you feel so joyful and content and whole. You are going to do great, and you will do more than cope. You are an overcomer and you are worth so incredibly much to the Lord Jesus and that is never going to change❤️ God bless you and keep you, God make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you, and give you peace.
@auggiet8380
@auggiet8380 Жыл бұрын
@@libbysherman1527 I get that you’re trying to be supportive, but it’s incredibly toxic to many survivors of abuse to have Jesus thrown at them. Speaking from personal experience, just please do not. You can be uplifting without needing to proselytize, and if you can’t, then your goal isn’t actually to help.
@auggiet8380
@auggiet8380 Жыл бұрын
My family was the same, sprinkled with a spattering of physical and religious abuse. I was kicked out of the house so regularly as a teenager that now I have attachment issues, and a dismissive-avoidant attachment style. Here’s to hoping we can be better. I’m rooting for you, and I hope you find something (even if it’s small) to be truly happy about today.
@M-IE
@M-IE Жыл бұрын
Prove them wrong, be as happy as you can be for yourself and be as kind as you would have been to your child self now as an adult. You still are that child at heart, but now you can take care and give positive feed back in a loving way to that child self. It's hard, but you really are not alone in this. The more you understand and process those feelings you weren't allowed to show or not sure how to feel, face them with patients. You need to see it for all that it is in order to accept and move past it to understand that you deserve to heal and feel safe.
@darthlazurus4382
@darthlazurus4382 Жыл бұрын
My father suffered abuse as a child, and his depression shows itself as anger. It took years for him tae get therapy and even admit he had depression. He's in a much better place now.
@Kenan-Z
@Kenan-Z Жыл бұрын
I'm from Türkiye and this video touched a chord with me. My old-school parents were just the type of parents described in this video. I've alternated between hating and loving them because of what they did to my self-esteem and confidence. My adolescence years were a constant revolt against my "fate", full of red-hot fury that consumed all my vital energy. It took me a lot of years and lots of reading to finally understand that they just imitated what their parents had done to them. I realized that they were also victims in their own way. I was only the latest victim of a vicious cycle. Did this epiphany reduce my pain and depression? No. But my anger subsided over time and I came to "understand" (but not forgive) them. Unfortunately the scars I sustained during my childhood are still taking a severe toll on my psyche.
@Victoria-sc8of
@Victoria-sc8of Жыл бұрын
I feel you. Same here. I send you lot of strength. I hope you will heal
@IamWhatonearth_Studios
@IamWhatonearth_Studios Жыл бұрын
Don't let anybody pressure you to forgive them if you aren't ready. Forgiveness is not always the right answer and isn't necessary to recovery. Although actively hating them/holding a grudge will likely eat at you, you don't have to forgive to move on from that dark place. You can accept that they did something terrible and that there is no perspective that makes what they did okay then love them from afar.
@raphjacobsz8781
@raphjacobsz8781 Жыл бұрын
To me systemic therapy really helped. It is where you sit down with a psychologist together with both your parents and create a situation where both your parents have to listen to your experiences and reflect it on themselves. You then work to a point where your parents can acknowledge your pain and understand more about their own pain. It was so powerful to me that my parents told me about what difficult times and feelings of desperation caused their sudden relapses and say sorry. It helped me to realise their humanity and disconnect those negative experiences from my own self-image.
@katkatkatkat463
@katkatkatkat463 Жыл бұрын
I've been through a similar thing. This is a beautiful description, thank you for sharing it. ❤
@martinb4272
@martinb4272 Жыл бұрын
Just want to be here with you, in the comments, for a moment in emotional solidarity. I have experienced a much similar process to what you describe here. And although my parents were not especially conservative, they were far from self awareness of their own traumas. And they projected them onto me. I so much recognize that constant revolt, the feeling of being forced into some kind of fate, and that "red-hot fury" - I immediatly recognize it. But to me it was litterally (but ofcourse figuratively) a feeling of being a hot red steel rod, searing with heat, often feeling almost on the edge of voilence - and at the same time as objectively distant as a cool rod of steel, inanimate, cold and removed from any vulnerability. It was exhausting, allways being in "fight" mode. Eventually, when they could no longer influence or control me, and I eventually could move away by my own choice - i gradually collapsed into aimlessness. Now, when there was no more antagonism and flaming hatred to manage, no more the feeling of an intense need for survival and preservation of independence and self, no underdog perspective - what would fill that void? How would I know how to direct myself by my own motivations, when I had spent all that time reacting, defending and detaching? I now too understand them, but only a small part of me have in it some forgiveness. I somehow think I now know their psyche's better than themselves - I have observed their behavioural patterns intently throughout childhood and youth out of necessity. I know their weakness, the unspoken fear they carried. But I have not become them. I might have been partly broken, scarred, as a result. But I know my scars, and I will not project my own scars onto any other human being. And deep down, I think my parents have seen and know that, even if still unconciously so. Unintentionally I was the cliff that broke their waves and did not give them rest. My father was, to my dismay, especially immature. And sometimes these last years he treats me with some kind of unspoken reverence - I think it is beacuse he was forced by my unrelenting resistance, my confrontations of his irrational attitudes and outbursts, to perform the unpleasant experience of looking inwards. And I have watched him mature as a human being. I cannot forgive, but i know they have changed for the better in some (perhaps lager) part because of me. I am still, as you, scarred, suffering from depression, and in addition have anxieties that sometimes seem insurmountable. But I have not become my parents.
@Natatattatification
@Natatattatification Жыл бұрын
My whole family was in on it, I was definitely the black sheep. Parents, siblings, grandparents, aunties, uncles, cousins. If they weren’t actively bullying me, they we enabling it to happen and to continue to happen My best revenge and act of defiance has been remaining true to myself and not conforming to their screwed up ideologies
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're a real winner. Smart move!
@Alice.in.Marmalade
@Alice.in.Marmalade Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I was bullied my my mother and grandmother every single day since I can remember until aged 21 when i finally left. Took me about 10 years of therapy to truly grasp on an emotional and not just intellectual level that there was never, ever anything wrong with me. And even though I now feel a lot of compassion towards my mother and her own suffering, I absolutely can't stand the mere thought of having her near me. I went no contact eleven years ago, and honestly don't think I will ever speak to her again.
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, my mother and grandmother bully me sometimes as well. They criticize, gaslighting, blaming, and shame me for doing things I had to do. My grandmother is only abusive on an emotional and psychological level, while my mother does all that with physical abuse. The latter still threatens to kill her own children and say there is no law in the world that can stop. I have recovered from these lies. She is just committing filicide and will get bullied in prison herself if she does kill.
@yeszennnnia5187
@yeszennnnia5187 Жыл бұрын
Omg im feeling the same way ! But what about when they get older and need you more ?
@B1ackmagic
@B1ackmagic Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you. I sincerely hope the best for you, for all of us.
@pollyanna1112
@pollyanna1112 Жыл бұрын
@@yeszennnnia5187 if your parent bullied or abused you in ways that are unforgivable, they are not your responsibility when they are older. They might need care etc, so if you choose to have a limited relationship with them, then organise for them to receive the care - whether it’s placing them in a retirement village so they still live independently but they will have company of theres / arrange for home help through the local council to come and clean the house weekly, they can assist with bathing, cooking, shopping all for a minimal fee. If the parent needs more care, then assisted living or a nursing home. You don’t owe them your emotional energy if they were very abusive/bullied you a lot. You just need to give yourself permission to set boundaries, permission to say No, permission to say “I care, I have needs, I need to be strong for myself + my partner + my kids, permission to say I will not let you bully, manipulate, control, dehumanise, belittle or abuse me again. You can, if you choose, close the door to them. It will not be easy if that’s the decision you make. You are likely to be confronted by a myriad of feelings especially in the first year or two, such as guilt, shame, elation, freedom, safety, despair, failure etc. Recognise what feelings you have, determine do you need to carry that feeling or does it come from someone else - ie- parent. You will survive and they too, will survive even if you do not take care of them as they become old, frail, sick, vulnerable. If you are considering this for the long term, can I suggest talking it through with a trusted therapist who won’t judge you. They can help you think out scenarios and find ways to handle your emotions and how you might wish to communicate your needs to your parent if you choose to tell them you will no longer wear their coats of shame and blame. Etc.
@suebotchie4167
@suebotchie4167 Жыл бұрын
@@yeszennnnia5187 might have something to do with why some (not all) elderly people don't seem to get visitors. Sad, but oh well :/
@manubecker
@manubecker Жыл бұрын
It is not only parents who bully their children although that's terrible. Generally people inflict misery on others as a form of reserving happiness to themselves by exporting outside themselves. I recall here Jean Paul Sartre's famous quote: "Hell is other people."
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
reserving happiness to themselves by exporting outside themselves... well I don't quite understand this phrasing about the exporting but the concept of "reserving happiness to themselves" does appear to be part of it, my alcoholic mother will start a problem during a family dinner that is calm and pleasant, she is very odd it's like she has always fomented some constant stress and a nice day just can't happen
@manubecker
@manubecker Жыл бұрын
@@emmalouie1663 it is sad to hear what you went through. In my case (and what I mean) is that my father puts everyone around him in a bad mood, this way, i believe, he felt better or powerful
@youtubechannelchannel9363
@youtubechannelchannel9363 Жыл бұрын
My mom is my biggest bully. I cannot get over this fact.
@DiegoGarcia-br5jw
@DiegoGarcia-br5jw Жыл бұрын
Don't be afraid to move out and never call again when the time comes I suppose
@mayabrooks7900
@mayabrooks7900 Жыл бұрын
Mine too. Sadly!😒☹️
@masa10l
@masa10l Жыл бұрын
" I haven't done anything wrong, something wrong done to me " This hit hard.
@tracymay6702
@tracymay6702 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I get surges of anger towards my parents for how they treated me, and I can’t express that anger to anyone otherwise I get further criticized/ostracized. My anger is so great against them that I feel like breaking things and ripping someone’s head off, but I have to tolerate it and live with it. I gotta forgive them and move on, but they always will stay in denial.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually going down the list of comments and reading them. It is a really sad thing not having a supportive family. One thing that stands out to me is that my parents didn't take the time to talk to me. My mother always filled up talk with short comments about very unimportant things she has been obsessed with the price of groceries her entire life and that is the main thing she talks about she really doesn't get new conversation. I can't tell her how I feel about anything because she gets angry at me especially if I am down or sad she actually yells at me. My parents got divorced long ago. Sometimes I feel bad for my father he is the kind of person like one sort of feels bad for them but then again at the same time something about both of them is very very off. They were both incredibly aloof. My father rarely took me places that a kid would want to go to play or whatever. My parents are stuck in their own worlds. They've never changed. They've never apologized for how unstable they made my life as a kid. They always had excuses for everything. I've seen other families that aren't rich and they still can manage to go ride a bike or just LIVE but my parents ALWAYS would blame things on being poor or whatever and even if they were it doesn't really justify everything they did or didn't do. My parents never took me to a museum. I never remember my parents reading a book to me as a kid not even once. Not once. They really were dumb people that had a kid and then didn't know what to do with it and didn't really care.
@DashieDe
@DashieDe Жыл бұрын
I had that hatred too. I wanted them to compensate for everything and apologize. The fact that they probably don't even see what's wrong with their methods sucks. Anyway I chose to prioritize myself, my comfort and my future. I will never forgive them but my wellbeing is more important for me now than justice for them
@theamazinggigachad
@theamazinggigachad Жыл бұрын
Same
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@emmalouie1663 I feel so sad to read your comment, Emma. I used to LOVE reading to my kids each night, 20 minutes to each of them. They would look at the pictures and comment on them, as we cuddled in bed reading. I suspect that your parents had been taught to completely cancel out their emotions, which would be why your mother could only talk about trivia and why she would get angry if you experienced feelings such as sadness. The emotional world was a foreign land to them, and they didn't have a map. I hope that you make the time to take yourself and friends (and any nieces and nephews etc) to museums, the beach, parks, swimming pools and other fun places. It's never too late to have fun.
@nourishwithlou
@nourishwithlou Жыл бұрын
I feel you on the anger part 100%, I definitely have felt it to the point where I wanted to rip heads off and smash the walls. That is our inner child's anger at an attempt to protect ourselves from the ongoing harm we experienced at a time in our lives when we were helpless. You absolutely do not have to forgive them if that's ever crossed your mind, you can process and move on by focusing on you and giving yourself all the love and care you missed out on, but you don't have to forgive people who've hurt you.. atleast the way I see it for my situation, my parents could have done better and had all the agency to be better, but they chose not to. And for that I will never forgive nor forget, but it will not prevent me from moving on eventually.
@linardssmagins8468
@linardssmagins8468 Жыл бұрын
"How dare you to hurt me" Says mom who got rightfully affected by the consequences of her actions.
@thickgrater
@thickgrater Жыл бұрын
This is why therapy should be a thing for everyone. Not everyone are fit to be parents and most people won't know that until the damage has been done.
@AdityaSingh7
@AdityaSingh7 Жыл бұрын
Love these conversations and videos so much. In society (esp. in India), parents are often seen as some form of Gods or flawless beings and even if they do something wrong, you're supposed be okay with it. These conversations put well how they are humans as well and are affected by other humans and situations. BUT that doesn't make you liable to bear abuse from them just because they brought you here without your consent.
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing this perspective. In an ideal world, we would be less deferential to the authority of parents - and more mindful of the wellbeing of children.
@kavinkacreates
@kavinkacreates Жыл бұрын
Nicely put. Same here in Sri Lanka. South Asian cultures run parallel on this topic. And true, retaliation to generally wrong things they do is seen as being massively disrespectful.
@nickonerd
@nickonerd Жыл бұрын
I live in Canada and plenty of parents have that mindset that you will be forever inferior to them based on age, they see many millennials as "forever children" as a result.
@kavinkacreates
@kavinkacreates Жыл бұрын
@@nickonerd 100%
@kindred-spirits
@kindred-spirits Жыл бұрын
Well said. I'm also from India, and here physical abuse is accepted and encouraged as a form of punishment to "discipline" children.
@negroni2320
@negroni2320 Жыл бұрын
It is possible the parent is insecure and doing it to make themself feel better. However, some people are just mean and sadistic and they enjoy watching others suffer.
@feliciaaj5417
@feliciaaj5417 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I blame my flaws, insecurities or mental health on my parents, I am always told, "you need to stop blaming others for everything". But it IS their fault. We don't magically just become who we are. Events that happened to us caused us to become who we are. It's not my fault that I am the way I am, but it's my responsibility to deal with it. One way I do that is to try to make my parents understand the way I've felt and the way they've hurt me. Because then they might not at least continue to hurt me. Or they might admit their faults and that they were in the wrong, which would make me feel like I might not be as stupid that they try to make me believe I am
@feliciaaj5417
@feliciaaj5417 Жыл бұрын
It's mostly my dad who has treated me wrongly. But my mom hasn't been there on my side either
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
I suggest that rather than trying to get them to admit that their parenting wasn't good enough, you just use low key comments to make them notice when they are being unpleasant. For example, if your father says, "You're such a loser!", you might reply, "Dad, that's a discouraging comment. Even if you believe it to be true, please don't say that to me." If he then comes out with lots more unpleasant comments, you could say, "Well, this evening isn't very constructive, is it. I'm going to go to bed and let's hope that tomorrow is a happier day." So, without being judgmental, you are telling them that you will spend time with them if they are encouraging and friendly and you will avoid them if they are nasty to you.
@sohinipoddar3836
@sohinipoddar3836 Жыл бұрын
@@tracesprite6078 that's good advice, but it is so difficult for me to keep my calm when my parents simply deny that they have said discouraging things, or they just treat those comments as something very petty and not to be taken seriously 2 decades later.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@sohinipoddar3836 Is it possible for you to live away from them and spend very little time with them?
@ap3008
@ap3008 Жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately...I was bullied by my parents, and now also my in-laws for some reason. It took me quite a long time in my 30s to realise it's more about them than it's about me...And to grief I didn't have supportive people around me. My further self-love and achievements are in spite of them, not because of them.
@saratf
@saratf Жыл бұрын
I can relate. We can leave this behind. 🫶
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that you have achieved self-love. Hope you always find time to be kind to yourself.
@chessematics
@chessematics Жыл бұрын
"The fear contains an imprint of the unconscious history." Very very wise words as always
@stormtrooper253
@stormtrooper253 Жыл бұрын
My late grandfather bullied my dad as a kid and even as an adult until he passed on. Unfortunately my dad is using his traumatic upbringing to be toxic to his immediate family, especially his kids. Sometimes he doesn't even know it, he just gets verbally abusive. It even got to a point where I threw a bottle of alcohol at him just to shut him up. I regret doing that afterwards, but not because of what I did, but by what his behavior is making me do: resort to violence. 😔
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
I believe that it is important not to use the excuse that the other person's behavior is driving you to violence. Violence is always a choice - and also always against the law. You can choose to avoid your father's company if his behavior is so difficult. I suggest going to a psychologist and finding other ways to express your feelings. It's better than ending up in jail on a charge of assault over a man who sounds like he's just not worth that level of trouble.
@Lyrielonwind
@Lyrielonwind Жыл бұрын
It's called reactive abuse. What hurt them most is indifference. Don't feel bad about it. If you are constantly picked on, that reaction is normal; survival mechanisms kick in. Best thing is not giving them any reaction because that's what they are looking for so they can use it to guilt trip you.
@jr5389
@jr5389 Жыл бұрын
100% 👍 😎
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@jr5389 Wishing you peace, good health and good friends and happiness. Hope life just keeps on getting better for you.
@zeg2651
@zeg2651 Жыл бұрын
I actually noticed how my cousin laughs at her (7 & 4 year old) children's mishaps, not when it comes to stuff like school or something, but e.g. when we play games together and the children make silly mistakes. I found it always quite funny until I realised about two days ago, that this is very cruel for a parent to do. So I promised myself to not do this to my future children
@MC-rw2bk
@MC-rw2bk Жыл бұрын
You should talk to your cousin about her behavior. The kids will grow up and remember that you didn’t stand up for them.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could respond to the children in a more positive way yourself. e.g. You might say, "Oh, you made a mistake, Lara. Well, we all make mistakes. That's how we learn." Or you might deliberately make a mistake and then exclaim, "Oh, I made a mistake. Oh, well, everyone makes mistakes." Or perhaps, "Oh, I got that wrong! Now is my chance to learn something new. What can I learn? Oh, I should put the red card on the yellow card. OK" Your calm, cheerful manner can show that you are quite happy to learn by making mistakes.
@sambenham1945
@sambenham1945 Жыл бұрын
How is it exactly toxic?
@matthewatwood8641
@matthewatwood8641 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you marry a good, strong man who will be a good dad. The kind who will chuckle when his kid goofs up & calm you down when you get all in a tizzy over it.
@knifeymcdont
@knifeymcdont Жыл бұрын
Every new parent should aim to be better to their children than their own parents were to them.
@mep6302
@mep6302 Жыл бұрын
My parents were very bossy. They always tried to remind me that they were "better" than me because they were the adults and when I told them what they were doing wrong, they went: we are the adults, we can do whatever we want but you don't have to do it because we tell you that you don't have to. Do what we say but not what we do. Once my dad told me he was my "god" because he gave me food. Guess what? Now I don't even help them when they need me because when I did, they didn't care or only care the first few times. I treat them the same way they treated me and they wonder why I'm doing it and why I'm not thankful for everything I have. This is my face -_-
@starkerstuvwxyz
@starkerstuvwxyz Жыл бұрын
bullying runs in my family. both my parents, my brother, my grandparents on both sides, and basically all of my extended family are all bullies, seem to all enjoy teasing and embarrassing people. I have severe ADHD and I am autistic, so I suffer from a trait of both called Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria. RSD makes embarrassment turn into utter mortification, so being bullied and teased by my family had me suicidal by the time I was about 5. I was undiagnosed with both autism and ADHD until adulthood due to parental neglect. moral of the story: don't do this to your kids.
@chessematics
@chessematics Жыл бұрын
And the main reason why this is not so easy is that we still feel we are falsely accusing others. We feel that what has been done is correct and we are perhaps bad for reasons we don't know or will never know. We are made to believe we are paranoid. This is like being stuck between two mirrors - a false reflection and another re-reflection of that falsity.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
Well, a person can not really know what they might have become if they had received a lot of love as a child. While I think about how my parents did parenting, I realize that they never reinforced positive things like successes. They were apathetic and didn't care much about anything, they did however reinforce a lot of negative messaging and it is pretty sick when I think about it now as an adult. I don't think I have a high IQ and it's possible that I wouldn't have become anybody or been successful in life no matter how my parents parented. I do sometimes wonder how much of this is "me" and how much of this is absorbed disorder. As an adult I am still reflecting on it and the least I can say is how it has taken up a lot of my time.
@stefanegstrup3145
@stefanegstrup3145 6 ай бұрын
True words.
@Alex-mh6mx
@Alex-mh6mx Жыл бұрын
It took me a very, very long time to realize what my mother had been doing to me my entire life. The belittling, the teasing, the name calling...when I moved out at 16 she started sending me books on "How to Stop Being Negative, Angry, and Mean." (One actual title btw) When I turned 18 I finally cut her off for good!
@shinrajordan
@shinrajordan Жыл бұрын
My mother emotionally abused and bullied me as a child and now I'm 39 with 0 self-esteem
@F_ckAllTrumpVoters
@F_ckAllTrumpVoters Жыл бұрын
Awareness is a step towards healing.
@voodoodolll
@voodoodolll Жыл бұрын
Don't let her win. Every moment of success is an act of rebellion.
@shinnam
@shinnam Жыл бұрын
Both my parents bullied me. Yoga and listening to "Conversations with God" got me to start healing. Conversations with God isn't really religious, more about finding your "godliness" within.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
I hope you can find a kind, caring psychologist who helps you to build your self-confidence. Sending you love, hope and encouragement.
@shinrajordan
@shinrajordan Жыл бұрын
@@tracesprite6078 thank you very much 🙂
@jackieroberts2625
@jackieroberts2625 Жыл бұрын
This is why I get anxious when I see ppl having children just cos society requires it. Children are fragile and they need emotional, psychological and physical care but most ppl think that's too much work. My suggestion? Don't have kids if you can't handle them, don't let them society make you something you're not
@armyforlife3191
@armyforlife3191 Жыл бұрын
Still whatever reason, they do still harm their children and it will never be justified. If our own parents never cared to treat us with kindness, respect and love, then how are we supposed to find our own healing and get out of the hell and depression we have been set up to deal with since birth?
@tinaflintstone8148
@tinaflintstone8148 Жыл бұрын
3:48 I’m 65 years old and have been in and out of counseling many times, and I still struggle with the damage my parents inflicted on me.
@Camarillian
@Camarillian Жыл бұрын
Needed this. The main wedge I and my father's relationship is that he bullies me. If it's not my hair (which is ironic, given that is resembles his hair when he was my age), it's my hobbies and interests, if it's not that, it's my career choice. Nothing is safe from being mocked by him.
@TheColossalBlanket
@TheColossalBlanket Жыл бұрын
Totally the same with me when I was growing up. Worse, he would build me up and then mock me for doing the things he initially supported me for. He hasnt been in my life for a long time now and I'm OK with that but I'm still damaged from it.
@sillycookie
@sillycookie Жыл бұрын
I want you to know no matter what he says, your appearance and hobbies and career are perfectly fine. You keep doing you.
@tytheunicorn
@tytheunicorn Жыл бұрын
I was bullied by my mother and grandmother from a very young age. I was constantly body-shamed. I grew up hating my appearance and being ashamed of my body. Now that I'm older, I do realize that it was just projection of their own insecurities, but it doesn't make it any less hurtful. I'm still working on trying to except myself for who am and I'm trying to live a healthy and active lifestyle. I'm just trying to focus on my health (in all areas of my life) instead of just my appearance.
@LivingItUp810
@LivingItUp810 Жыл бұрын
I was bullied and abused by my parents and extended family so badly that I live with CPTSD. Healing is a life long journey but totally worth it. I cut all ties with them, I refuse to be a punching bag or make another person one as well. The buck stops here
@suebotchie4167
@suebotchie4167 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
You sound like the kind of strong person who will firmly think positively about yourself every time negative thoughts return to bother you. Your intelligent and caring way of thinking will push back against their nonsense.
@ErinSmith-jo8td
@ErinSmith-jo8td Жыл бұрын
My ex wasn’t faithful, and my dad took his side, and blamed me for everything that went wrong. I messed up my marriage, I am messing up my kids leaving him, and I’m the one who is crazy and needs to see help for not thinking like him. It took 4 therapists over 5 years asking why I don’t leave my ex before I did, my kids saw it coming and are happier now, and I pity my dad because I do understand how he thinks. I’m not even a factor with him, he only sees himself in my ex and replays his own divorce and childhood. So yeah, fuck seeking love from other people. At this time, I’m better alone to heal and learn to love myself in the ways no one else has.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@suebotchie4167
@suebotchie4167 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. People need to know there are way too many pathetic excuses for parents out there. And yeah, many of these douch-bag parents were abused as children. But still NEVER AN EXCUSE to just pass that demon on.
@dancingnature
@dancingnature Жыл бұрын
Father was violent and verbally abusive , mother was extremely verbally cruel . Started asking myself when I was 12 if what she was saying about me was actually true. She’d call me fat when I was borderline anorexic . Luckily I just thought she was crazy but it made me wonder if the other nasty things she’d say about me were true. And it bled over to questioning my father’s ridiculous misogynistic behavior as well. It did mean that I spent my adolescence in constant battles with 2 toxic immature punitive people which also wasn’t good for me .
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
"two toxic punitive people" -- you know that sums it up pretty well because parents really shouldn't be so punitive over minor things as an adult my mother is still a punitive person
@loverlei79
@loverlei79 Жыл бұрын
I'm 43 and while talking to my s.o. I realized that everything truly horrific that happened to me, both in childhood and adulthood was a consequence of either direct actions from my mother, or me following her advice. AS a child and young adult I couldn't vocalize why I deeply hated her so much. As a full grown adult, intensely looking back at my life and finding the root cause of trauma, it always pointed back to her. Everytime, my life would start even remotely going positive, she'd sabotage is in the most direct and obvious way she could. At 33 I cut her out of my life for good and miraculously, things were easy and good changes actually stuck. There seems to be a misconception that "blaming your parents" isn't valid. But in a society where 25 year olds can't even buy a car or rent an apartment without a parents signature, Then YES, if your life sucks...its most likely your parents fault, if its good then its also because of them.
@Weaklytune
@Weaklytune Жыл бұрын
Blaming my parents IS valid. I hate when people try to defend toxic peoples actions. You are so right honestly.
@calexprenas
@calexprenas Жыл бұрын
Right on. Realized last year my parents still bully and degrade me - even now as an adult when I’m indisputably more capable, knowledgeable, and able to effectively navigate the world than are they - simply because it is an ego boost to do that and feel superior; it eases their own insecurities and anxieties. They think it’s benign and that there’s no need to be respectful to their own children, but it’s effectively ended our relationship because I’m no longer naive enough to think I have a duty to be the bigger person and fix / maintain my relationship with them as well as take care of them. I wish I had loving parents that I could be loving towards, but I’m no longer willing to be mistreated in order to keep things kosher w them.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
So glad that your distancing yourself from that harmful nastiness.
@calexprenas
@calexprenas Жыл бұрын
@@tracesprite6078 Thank you so much; knowing that there are people in the world who are so much kinder and more respectful and supportive than those I grew up with makes that journey a lot easier to choose. I hope you're faring well on your own journey!
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
If you were bullied by a parent, what form did it take? Let us know in the comments below
@Hani_67
@Hani_67 Жыл бұрын
My parents bully me mentally.
@scary-goth-mother
@scary-goth-mother Жыл бұрын
Do school teachers count?
@theschooloflifetv
@theschooloflifetv Жыл бұрын
@@scary-goth-mother Regrettably, yes - there are teachers who inflict their own wounds on others, much as parents can do.
@diaxdiax
@diaxdiax Жыл бұрын
My father bullied me physically, even today I have flashbacks every fucking day and refeel everything what I felt when I was child and this traumas gave me so many insecurities, mom's mental abuse was nothing in compare to that, so yeah that's that..
@white6505
@white6505 Жыл бұрын
"i know you better than you know yourself. see? every time you disobey me, things go wrong. im the only person that wants whats good for you. if i bully you and i get angry, its for your own good." in short, narcissistic parents.
@Elemblue2
@Elemblue2 Жыл бұрын
I lived inside the gaslamp as a child. They had no idea they were doing it, and you have no idea how ridiculous gaslighting can get. I tried using recordings, but its like they couldn't hear them. It made me harder to get along with, because being gaslit at every level 100% of the time means that you cant show any signs of weakness. The gaslighter is just searching for cracks they can force insecurity and doubt into. You have to be a literal ironclad of resolve and confidence and instantly and without delay go to war over every challenge to prove it. At the same time, you need to make sure your never caught being wrong, because if your ever wrong one time and don't immediately admit it, it will be weaponized against you for years. (starting to notice a similar pattern in politics) As a result of having grown up like that, I actually function better in toxic environments than healthy ones. To extend the metaphor, I feel more comfortable in the rain than in sunny weather. I really am a product of my environment at this point. I eventually started noticing a whole slew of ultra subtle self sabotaging behaviors as a result of that. Like how I would make toxic friends and try to create a healthy environment around them just to see if all the toxic person needed was that healthy environment. Half and half results overall, but ultimately they were what they were. No one will change unless they first tell themselves it needs to happen, or are essentially tortured by reality into it. I wasnt doing myself any favors though. The really unhelpful side effect is my ability to camouflage. I cant even feel my own stress, sickness, or emotions that might indicate weakness most of the time. The good news is this makes me incredibly good at intimidating wild animals (lol). I think the only reason I still have them is because I realized at some point I was suppressing them and desperately tried to preserve them in a glass box. But I cant tell you if I am stressed. To an observer, I look absolutely fine, because I can believe the lie. One time I pushed myself so hard, I just lost the ability to see and lost all motor skills. I dropped like a sack. As I was almost unconscious, I decided I was probably pushing too hard and to pull back on the levers. My vision came back and I got motor skills again. Thats when I realized mind over matter is a lie. The stress is real, even if I dont know about it. It also makes it so my trust for unverified sources (aka, everyone I havent verfied myself) is nill. Trying to grow back in the other direction is hard, especially in this society. Those are very much strengths when dealing with predators. I think it might not just be my childhood, but also society. My point, and why I shared all this, is that there are ULTRA subtle side effects to defences youve built up over your childhood, and you wont notice their there without really focusing. But they directly affect your health, so you should do everything you can to figure them out.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
I wish that you would do some kind, uncomplicated things for yourself most days. They could be as simple as making yourself a cup of hot chocolate or reading a book you really enjoy or phoning a good friend. They could be more elaborate like driving to a place you love being with some friends and having a picnic. Please don't waste too much time on toxic people. They have a right to be toxic if they choose to, but toxic people are tiring and boring and repetitive so just gently give them a miss as much as possible. Yes, you have proved to yourself that you can cope with them, but don't seek out those experiences. Life is too short.
@citridora
@citridora Жыл бұрын
@@tracesprite6078 I wish that you could stop spamming the comments with unsolicited advice.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@citridora Well, keep wishing because it isn't going to happen. People make all sorts of comments on one another's posts. The Most Sentient Bot has been through a very intense personal journey and decided to share it. I was the only person who cared enough to make some kind of reply to that lengthy and involved post. Good on me!
@zjjdskjkfjkfkdsjfkjasbdfjkasbd
@zjjdskjkfjkfkdsjfkjasbdfjkasbd Жыл бұрын
I think I’ve grown up in a toxic world of lies, maybe it was always meant to be that way only less extreme for some people, maybe if you just happen to agree on the status quo most of the time you wouldn’t notice how much people strain to fit in, my test with Toxic people in my life is testing their responses, usually what I find, despite trying to appease people out of respect for the feelings is seeing the no fucks given for opposing any plans I make or any preferences I have, instead of simply listening, they have an impulsive need to make out that my choices are wrong or I’ll thought out, another day I’ll switch to the opposite plans/choices, now they will switch to oppose that, it makes my gut clench as I sense how their only goal is to dominate and see me as so weak I won’t stand up for myself or dare snap back, when all I’m looking for is love, support and being able to reveal my inner self, it makes me loathe these people and callus over being me but every now and then I come out the closet as the real me, they really really don’t like that, usually drawing others for support will suggest I’m crazy and should get back to normal, sick of these selfish assholes
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@zjjdskjkfjkfkdsjfkjasbdfjkasbd So it seems that you feel that these particular people just oppose you for the sake of opposing you. I would find that very off-putting, too. I hope that you can find other more pleasant people to spend your time with. I wish you well.
@RicoBanani
@RicoBanani Жыл бұрын
my mother got a great laugh out of smothering me in deep snow and drowning me in water when i was a small boy.. it made me feel helpless and enraged. i never understood why she would do that and have fun doing it.
@uikmnhj4me
@uikmnhj4me Жыл бұрын
I always interpreted this phenomenon not as the parent trying to externally project blame for their own stupidity per se, but more along the lines of the parent being afraid their child will turn out like them and going too far to enforce the opposite
@yellowishgreendragon.-.
@yellowishgreendragon.-. Жыл бұрын
Both my parents do, and when I say it's abuse. They start with the gaslighting and guilt trips.
@lastexitoficial
@lastexitoficial Жыл бұрын
“Not every child has the endurance and fearlessness to go on searching until it comes to the kindliness that lies beneath the surface. You can only treat a child in the way you yourself are constituted.” ― Franz Kafka, Letter to His Father
@amzensix2950
@amzensix2950 Жыл бұрын
i can't thank the people behind this channel enough for this video and the past few videos with the similar topic. it's been really helpful for me to try to recognize about what the actual problem is
@shivrajsinghnirvan6140
@shivrajsinghnirvan6140 Жыл бұрын
its an excuse just to accuse your own parents for your own sufferings may be some parents are psycho saddist but you cant generlise whole globe parents go harsh on their child because they dont want them to repeat the same mistakes and also make some new mistakes
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@shivrajsinghnirvan6140 However if you read modern child rearing books, you will notice that no psychologists these days recommend harshness as a method of child rearing.
@sillycookie
@sillycookie Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my father. I cannot love him, but knowing (or maybe even worse, not knowing) what kind of things he was put through makes me want to cry for him. Or at least cry for the little boy he once was.
@mindfulnesswithmatt
@mindfulnesswithmatt Жыл бұрын
Abusive or negligent parents all learn those ways from someone too; the change starts with those watching this video
@summero-my5in
@summero-my5in Жыл бұрын
One of many things was my mother saying I’m just like my dad, after spending every waking moment telling me how awful he is
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
That is really rude and very unhelpful of your mother. In your imagination, take that toxic comment and toss it in the rubbish bin. Perhaps she will sometimes say some more constructive things and you can treasure those.
@BerishaFatian
@BerishaFatian Жыл бұрын
I can so relate. I spent my childhood and part of my teen years being afraid of my father. He was so psychologically and emotionally abusive that it came to a point where I couldn't be in the same room with him. My mom wasn't abusive but she was never supportive either. She's just there but not there for me.
@lalrinhluaralte5717
@lalrinhluaralte5717 Жыл бұрын
This make es so much sense and make me look back to all the times my family members verbally bully me
@d00diehead52
@d00diehead52 Жыл бұрын
It’s worse with a Narcissist parent like I had to deal with growing up, cause they’re lost even further in the delusion that they’re not to blame
@moorbilt
@moorbilt Жыл бұрын
Being made fun of by one’s parent can be embarrassing on account of this adult is competing with a child and the older “wiser” one is staking their self-worth. You let them win and keep distance, the instability is painful to watch. Board games, any kind of game is dangerous. They offshore their feelings onto others so responsibility for their hurt is carried by the kid or really whoever is closest.
@leahohlund6469
@leahohlund6469 Жыл бұрын
I recently lost my Father and am struggling through the grief process, having become confusingly numb. My Dad was definitely a bully to me, as was my Mom. I think that's why I can't be sad about his passing. He can't hurt me anymore.
@nikk-named
@nikk-named Жыл бұрын
This is why I want to make sure I've done the work, before raising a kid. A lot is beginning to change in parenting culture, and the knowledge that treating a child with respect is the best way is slowly growing. I hope that I can one day contribute to that.
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops Жыл бұрын
This video resonated with me as I am coming to the realization, thanks to my fiancé, that this was done to me; and is still being done. It’s painful, and my relationship with my family is suffering, but I won’t go back to believing a lie.
@Deeplycloseted435
@Deeplycloseted435 Жыл бұрын
My wife convinced me I was abused by my parents. She was crazy, but relentless. She separated me from my family for many years. Eventually, I had to leave her to survive. My family accepted me back instantly, and we are closet than ever. Talk to a professional about it. Your partner isn’t your therapist. Get clarity for yourself on the matter, then YOU tell him what is what, about your own life.
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops Жыл бұрын
@@Deeplycloseted435 I’m sorry that happened to you, and appreciate your insight. That is something I’ve been think about. She’s been encouraging me to be kinder to my Mother, stop ignoring my brother, and to try to get my Father to go to therapy, so I don’t think that’s what’s happening. But I do want another opinion on the situation though; which is why I booked an appointment with my therapist.
@lindac6919
@lindac6919 Жыл бұрын
Watch out for isolating behaviors from your fiance. I've been with a "rescuer" before.
@aleksandra7420
@aleksandra7420 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about it a lot, and I'm honestly tired of defending my mother with the thought that "someone bullied her too." Somehow, I learned from my pain not to hurt others. While she just preferred to take it out on me. I don't think I'm going to talk to her again, and I don't even feel sorry for her because this is the result of her actions.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes staying away from a destructive person is the wisest choice.
@Trexmaster12
@Trexmaster12 Жыл бұрын
Too many parents, too many children...
@samevans1289
@samevans1289 Жыл бұрын
My dad bullied me when I had depression and the meds, lack of exercise and overeating made me gain weight. I was in shock every time it happened, not knowing how to respond, and very hurt, humiliated, and confused that my dad, who loves me so much, would do that to me, especially knowing the conditions which led to my weight gain. It wasn't anything truly mean, just mocking, little jabs to make me feel self-conscious. Even tho I confronted him, it continued. Years later, we stumbled upon this topic during a random conversation, and he said he didn't realize it hurt me THAT much, and that he only did it because he wanted me to not lose track of the fact that I'm gaining weight, abandon any thought of losing it eventually, and probably gain a bunch more (very possible at the rate that I was going), because he knew it would only add to my issues and my depression if I were to put more weight on. I believe him. He had good intentions, it's just sad that that is how society teaches people to motivate others into losing weight - shaming. I didn't lose the weight because of it. It just got me more depressed (ironically, given his motivation for making me lose weight), and it made me have a period of trying a bunch of unhealthy diets, followed by binges and self-hate, repeat. When I eventually lost the weight, it was on my own terms, because I wanted it, not because I was shamed into it.
@ap3008
@ap3008 Жыл бұрын
He maybe had good intention...but even so, he showed he doesn't trust you to make good decisions about yourself - which is painful
@daryl9799
@daryl9799 Жыл бұрын
That's sounds more like a excuse then anything that alot of abusers use to cover it up.
@samevans1289
@samevans1289 Жыл бұрын
@@daryl9799 Maybe that's true in many cases, but I said I believe him.
@albertosousatenor
@albertosousatenor Жыл бұрын
I don’t have children, just students, but is this why the pupils who annoy me the most are those with the same flaws I had as a student?
@TheEpilepticWalrus
@TheEpilepticWalrus Жыл бұрын
"fear contains the imprint of unconscious history" hits hard
@etaokha4164
@etaokha4164 Жыл бұрын
My sister critisizes her son daily and she passes her trauma to him and looking at him now he looks depressed and he is only 6 years and she forces him to read daily. It's sad because there's nothing I can do I tried talking to her about how she treats her only child but went to deaf ears. Ive given up. I've got my own children to raise and my focus is on them not another person who doesn't take corrections
@nandinipathak9761
@nandinipathak9761 Жыл бұрын
I love Alain's voiceovers! His voice is so soothing :)
@HinnyHinaika
@HinnyHinaika Жыл бұрын
It took me over 3 decades to understand I was constantly bullied by my father, another 3 years to be able to describe what happened with words.
@langu1d
@langu1d Жыл бұрын
this channel is saving my mental health
@venust.4119
@venust.4119 Жыл бұрын
It has something to do with feeling like an authority who has the right to dish out insults. It apparently helps to process the past trauma by finally being on the opposite side. They don't feel like the victim anymore (even if just for a moment) because they are the bully. It's despicable even if it's done unonsciously. If you created life, you need to work on yourself.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's always unconscious. My aunt and my mother used to say how awful their mother was. Now my aging mother is drinking a lot and she is just like her mother. She is just a brat and her husband doesn't ever say anything to her about it. My mother actually feels entitled to be awful.
@venust.4119
@venust.4119 Жыл бұрын
@@emmalouie1663 I know exactly what you describe, it's my father's story. Stay strong and don't give in to their patterns.
@roastingpotato
@roastingpotato Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that so many people can say that their parents where their first bullies.
@foxhyde7743
@foxhyde7743 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this make a lot of sense. I think this can explain my insecurities and difficulty with self love and acceptance... But this is another step towards healing. Thank you School of life
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 Жыл бұрын
I realized I was gaslighted by my own mother from Brittney Lee's "Toxic Mother" video. She has been going back and forth with me, calling me stupid and now I am not. She does all the physical abuses, including choking her children and beating one of us with a broom. Even though she protected me from other kids bullying, her constantly insulting, manipulating, and beating me makes her the biggest bully I still put up with. This video helped made me see it more clearly than ever. I see it all now.
@coryart
@coryart Жыл бұрын
My father was a child of divorce and was tossed between two new families where the new sons had greater affection, and he had to compete for his mothers love. He viewed me as the 'male' competition for the woman of the house from the time I was an infant until I moved out of the home. Once I was no longer a "competitive threat" in his home, he treated me wonderfully as a peer. My mother had a twisted view of money. When she saw signs from an early age that I had the potential to become a massively successful artist, she did her best to suppress that from happening by attacking my self esteem with a negative comment whenever I completed a new painting. When I confronted her about this (at 16 years old), she said "Well if you become too wealthy and successful, you'll be drawn away from God. Recently I learned just how badly that affected me, so I confronted her and successfully got her to stop that behavior. Now my chains are unbound and I'm on my way in my art career.
@zjjdskjkfjkfkdsjfkjasbdfjkasbd
@zjjdskjkfjkfkdsjfkjasbdfjkasbd Жыл бұрын
The difference ‘I hope’ between my parents and me and my young son, is that I try to connect with him and with that connection ensure I boost him rather than belittle and dominate him, I feel it in my gut, if I open up to my parents they don’t seem to be able to help themselves pour salt in rather than hold back some of their negativity and boost me when I’d love their genuine support, we seem to get by, by me shielding my inner thoughts to placate them, for them they lose a genuine connection, they get a tiny fraction of me, it’s bizarre, I just think some people are so broken they coast to the finishing line of their life with no will or energy to change, it’s their comfort zone and exposing it all is just something they are unwilling to do, even if they too could gain from genuine full connections
@matheusaraujo9089
@matheusaraujo9089 Жыл бұрын
"We're not bad people, we just come from a bad place."
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think the bullying by parents is that even though they may have been able to hide their feelings of inadequacy they fear that their children are exposing it to the world. I was raised by to mentally ill parents that did a lot of damage to me and my siblings. As an adult I look at it that I was given bad programming and it is up to me to learn and get better programming for myself. So far it is working quite well.
@TheMagnificentSarah
@TheMagnificentSarah Жыл бұрын
This hit too deep for me 😭😭 it's like you're talking about me
@marina-li3tk
@marina-li3tk Жыл бұрын
This is as good as it gets. Very timely for me. Thanks...
@vanillabin1359
@vanillabin1359 Жыл бұрын
To become an adult and parent requires knowing thyself; introspection, facing the worst or best of yourself, and embracing your own problems and how to grow out of them!!! So much homework to do! If not…. Kids will be in absolute suffering just absorbing what their parents are saying as kids do not have the capability to defend themselves and their consciousness is built by surrounded people… eventually kids become adults will dealt wthl their life tragic forever
@lutharshad
@lutharshad Жыл бұрын
I agree. My mum bully me verbally. I remember when I said to my mum that the food that she cooks was not delicious, therefore I told here that it was not delicious (not mean as an insult), I ask her politely yet she respond with angry. She got so angry like a demon comes from her mouth and she hit me with a hanger to the point I was laying on the ground. And after that she hit me with a broomstick and she screams "You are no longer my son!!!" It's still not over, my brother who he thought I did something wrong to my mother, he grabs my neck and choke me. I forgive my brother whom I know he felt guilty when realising that I had done no evil. But my mum... I cannot forgive her. I will pee at her grave one day... let this be my last revenge.
@lutharshad
@lutharshad Жыл бұрын
My dad is also not somebody to proud upon. He is really the lesser of two evil (compare to my mother). I want the reader of this to remove the illusion of religion to which they ask you to love your parent. Are they really a good parent? Ask yourself that question.
@tracesprite6078
@tracesprite6078 Жыл бұрын
@@lutharshad Yes, you don't have to love abusive parents.
@zacharysaunders2100
@zacharysaunders2100 8 ай бұрын
amazing video! As a person who had parents that were bullies this really hit home. It was super spot on about how bullied children take years to realize they've been bullied. Thanks so much for what y'all do!
@Heyokasireniei468sxso
@Heyokasireniei468sxso Жыл бұрын
this is why my parents tell me to have kids because this definitely was their method still is
@scottyoung5351
@scottyoung5351 Жыл бұрын
I think the best solution for this is if you’re one of these kids when you grow up don’t procreate stop the cycle and let your parents cry themselves to sleep every night knowing it’s their fault that they are not grandparents
@yootoob1001001
@yootoob1001001 Жыл бұрын
The awareness of such things can be plain and simple yet never easy to process and move forward from.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
Very true.
@evelyngomez4680
@evelyngomez4680 Жыл бұрын
I work at a retail store. Every day, I encounter many parents using harsh treatment on their children, the way my mother used on me. I see the patterns everyday in new parents, and it breaks my heart.
@ordinarygum
@ordinarygum Жыл бұрын
These kind of videos make me feel compassionate about myself. They remind me why I sometimes don't like myself so much when in reality, it was actually my parent that implied that they didn't like me just because someone else did something to them back then.
@abilly22
@abilly22 Жыл бұрын
I always love my parents and it will be forever but earlier i got to know that i have to fight with everything alone and no one is going to help you as you expected so now i don't expect anything from anyone not even to my parents. 🙃
@ludwig8474
@ludwig8474 Жыл бұрын
My dad bullied me and when I was older he said it was because he thought I was a popular kid at school so he didn’t want me to become bigheaded… the reality was that by the time I went to school my self confidence was so low I wouldn’t speak and was seen as odd so kids picked on me and I was so used to it they wouldn’t get a response so it escalated to seeing how much they could hit/kick me without a response. At home I’d be attacked/insulted soon as I walked in from school. I’m glad my childhood is over but my father still thinks he was a great parent because his parents were “worse“.
@n0_n0
@n0_n0 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Spot on. Best, most concise description I’ve heard
@MadArtLang
@MadArtLang Жыл бұрын
Also, when financial provisions are made, sometimes, there is a resentment when parents are told that they emotionally hurt or were neglectful to their kids. Then the response may be, "How ungrateful!" We have given you so much: material wise, but nothing of emotional comfort. Both are necessary for good parenting.
@mep6302
@mep6302 Жыл бұрын
My parents are the same. They only tell me they give me money but never emotional support. I don't talk to them anymore. Unfortunately I still live with them but I don't want to. I need a job first.
@willstanton7823
@willstanton7823 Жыл бұрын
Having grown up with both my siblings bullied and manipulated by my father, seeing how that trauma turned them into reactive, self- destructive or just plain destructive narcissists, then watching how that narcissism has led to the breakdown of a marriage and severe lifetime drug dependency, it's very hard for me to see it from my father's point of view and to accept him doing that. In my head, I know that he learned it from his parents too, which means the chain of intergenerational childhood trauma must go back much more in his family... And that he was also a victim, the same as my siblings. But in my heart, seeing how all my brother's and sister's potential may have been fully squandered and given over to a life of endless suffering instead... It is hard for me to not despise what my dad did to them. Narcissism against children is probably one of the most fucked up things that can happen in this world, as I have also suffered from narcissistic abuse from another as an adult and know what it feels like.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Жыл бұрын
There was also self-destruction, drug addiction, alcoholism, and what I believe to be forms of narcissism in my family as well. When I was a teenager I figured out a way to get prozac for myself but it never worked. So I went through a while of haphazardly dealing with depression and anxiety and sort of not knowing while taking the doctors variety of anti-depressants. I came across information about personality disorders and I continued to read about it off and on. My older brother ended his life. To be sure he had a lot of problems as an adult that compounded like he had a medical issue but he was emotionally messed up from a young age. He started drinking when he was around 13 or 14 and it never really went away. One thing that frustrates me so much is how doctors and therapists don't catch on to any of this, maybe they are now but I was from the generation where they just liked to say it's all brain chemistry. Nobody, NO professional ever ever mentioned personality disorder or abuse to me. Both my brother and myself did go see therapists but it didn't really help us. I guess it helps some people but some are just so quick to point people to therapy as if just going to therapy is a fix and a lot of times it's really not. It could be that there are a handful of very good counselors, frankly I think a lot of them are clueless and messed up themselves though. My brother was actually a pretty smart person he had above average IQ it's just that he was SO very self destructive. My parents created emotional chaos and instability that is all I can say about it.
@willstanton7823
@willstanton7823 Жыл бұрын
@@emmalouie1663 Thanks for telling me all about your story. It's a fucking painful thing to see a sibling self-destruct. I cannot even imagine what you and your family had to go through. Let alone your older brother's suffering. My older brother's poison was and still is heroin. He's hanging off the edge of a cliff right now, but he won't take anyone's hand. We've all tried to help lift him out in every way, but it's always for naught. He lost 20 years of his development to addiction so his emotional maturity is low. All I do is show him unconditional love despite any damage he does to others and involve him in my life whenever I can. But it's like the writing is on the wall and he's going to give up living. I've accepted that he can only save himself, but he refuses to do so, and I'm still trying to work out why that is. It's my fault for having this bloody hero complex where I think I can save people. Anyway, it's good to know neither of us are alone and one day our stories could help others ❤
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