Why Pop Punk Sucks
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4 жыл бұрынWhy Pop Punk Sucks
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What is going on my mates!
Today we will be talking about why pop punk sucks | or rather why people think pop punk sucks + whether or not that's a bad thing + how it can improve
It's kinda hard to go through life without hearing a pop punk song, especially if you grew up in the late 90's early 2000's when bands like blink-182, Green Day, Sum 41, and all those types of bands were poppin. It was on the radio, the mall, it was hard to evade.
These days pop punk isn't so popular commercially but is for sure kept alive by acts like The Story So Far, Neck Deep, Real Friends, The Wonder Years, Knuckle Puck, you know the bands I'm talking about.
While I do offer some criticism towards the genre, I'll always love it and end the video on a high note. Watch till the end. I usually don't say that, but just do it this once with this video, per my request. Love you even if you don't.
Thank you for all the immense support lately, it never goes unnoticed.
Best,
Nate
And now.. it's time for the feature presentation you've been waiting for: Why Pop Punk Sucks
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@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
watch the whole vid before you comment pls
@ethanthebigmuscleman 4 жыл бұрын
Im not a big fan of pop punk but my second fav band are "blink-182" and my fav are "green day" oxymoronic innit
@mikewalker6016 4 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about pop punk is all the ignorant children arguing about what pop punk is and what bands fall under that banner. Fuck up and enjoy the music you spoilt suburban brats.
@njcoetzee2843 4 жыл бұрын
Almost freaked out
@mynameiskyleabent 4 жыл бұрын
Dont make it 10 minutes for the sake of advertiser revenue and dont make a video title such as this.
@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
kyle abent I trimmed it down from 14 minutes
@simpsbelongtothegulags3702 4 жыл бұрын
I dont care about genres WHEN I LIKE THE SONG I LIKE IT
@butters6795 4 жыл бұрын
facts.
@bsx121 4 жыл бұрын
Don't care about your thoughts
@insertnamehere8723 4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk mainly consists of annoying fans who have zero personality, dress sense or taste. The music itself is oversaturated, whiney, repetitive, nasaly and cliche. It's no surprise the aforementioned fanbase like this typical middle of the road cock rock. And tbh, from my experience it tends to be emos, jocks, lesbians and peoppe who aspire to be the latter or the former who listen to it I.e. the worst. The more power to you for liking it but aside from the douche taint and teenage angst, at it's very core, pop punk tends to just be generic these days. I could at least kinda respect old stuff for being somewhat original but not this cesspit.
@TALKINGtac0 4 жыл бұрын
@@insertnamehere8723 The only people I see whining are the people bashing it tbh. The only pop punk band I like is Greenday though. Ive heard the others but I wouldnt call myself a fan.
@insertnamehere8723 4 жыл бұрын
@@TALKINGtac0 I was on about the content, which is usually very whiney.
@quesopunk 4 жыл бұрын
Now you made me feel afraid that one day I will stop loving Pop Punk. Well I guess this is growing up.
@alexc195 4 жыл бұрын
Dammit
@ThePorschefan 4 жыл бұрын
No, pop punk will not go, so turn the lights off, and carry me on... nananananana
@isaiahdeville9120 4 жыл бұрын
I'm never growing up if that's the case imma stay emo/punk till I die
@quesopunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahdeville9120 Until the day I die I'll spill my heart for punk, for punk...
@Disco2FiB 4 жыл бұрын
You know we're gettung pathetic when we all are at the point of dad jokes... bad jokes..
@extremelylowqualitycontent6387 4 жыл бұрын
I think Sum 41 is a big part of pop punk and was completely left out.
@Selrisitai 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what the heck, man?
@ealing456 4 жыл бұрын
Sum 41's a little harder to classify in terms of music as their love for thrash metal, melodic-hardcore and 80s rap-rock kind of set them apart from the others, but most wouldn't question their role within the pop punk scene.
@kc8512 4 жыл бұрын
They're sliding by at around 1:13 lmao they in there
@ealing456 4 жыл бұрын
@@kc8512 Haha so fast, but you're right.
@seans7794 4 жыл бұрын
ealing456 I agree
@alissabethlamb4808 4 жыл бұрын
Me, seeing the thumbnail: *say sike right now*
@chilliam00 4 жыл бұрын
Jarrod Alonge is everywhere. Anything to do with the scene he is there. 😂🤣
@gonzalocruz4234 4 жыл бұрын
@Sonny Padilla dude, you literally listen to RAC
@itzasherrr3254 4 жыл бұрын
Same say sike now
@diddlefiggins6557 3 жыл бұрын
Pop punk is not punk!
@alissabethlamb4808 3 жыл бұрын
@@diddlefiggins6557 ok but what makes you think I care about your opinion lmao
@FelixMarshFTW 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is why Billie Joe Armstrong wanted to kill the term "pop punk"
@FelixMarshFTW 4 жыл бұрын
@Jake Charles are you talking about Green Day's music? That's pop punk. Alternative pop would be, like, bmth's "medicine". Green Day is pop punk because punk is short for punk *rock*
@GrimmFLawless 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a slightly misleading label because it implies Green Day = Backstreet Boys and it’s also similar to how a lot of the Seattle bands hated being called Grunge
@dekaiaverett3265 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Charles I’m not sure if you knew this but music genres are not decided by the popularity of the music but instead decided by the sound of the music. Punk rock fans have a tendency to reject anything remotely catchy or commercial when bands like The Ramones where literally directly influenced by bubblegum pop and attempted to emulate it in their music. I don’t believe you have to be a “punk” band to be a pop punk band. At the end of the day all pop punk is is music that takes the general speed and punk like energy/guitar work but with a stronger sense of pop based melody and a focus on pop song writing.
@dekaiaverett3265 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Charles So is a band no longer pop punk when they become mainstream or what? Like what is your definition of punk rock and what is your definition of pop punk? The idea of a pop punk purist is honestly hilarious to me.
@dekaiaverett3265 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Charles Okay, I respectfully disagree.
@Chief_Nasty 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I only came here hoping to find more pop punk bands lol
@SharkBaitBand 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a slice for you man 🍕
@paulmoore5392 4 жыл бұрын
mfzbitch check out Jeff Rosenstock. May not be considered pop punk, but has a sound similar to it and it is glorious
@chloejohnson3230 4 жыл бұрын
Waterparks is so good dude, I would hig h l y recommend them
@ILVeNoFx 4 жыл бұрын
Masked Intruder
@camilob.9542 4 жыл бұрын
A Day To Remember, although they're probably the heaviest pop-punk band.
@mckling 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 31 and still enjoy pop punk. 🤷♂️
@GT0wned1 4 жыл бұрын
i am 30 and i cosign this comment
@Voxelize 4 жыл бұрын
@@GT0wned1 Just turned 30 a month ago and I'm still finding pop punk I haven't heard yet AND I WANT IT ALL.
@bonojennett 4 жыл бұрын
34 and still listening to EASYCORE.
@user-tw5si4tr3q 4 жыл бұрын
not 31 and dont care, every genre should exist rightfully, i just like to hear peoples arguments of why"____ suck" but they never come up with plausible arguments its mostly based upon personal opinion
@nickrosetti9224 4 жыл бұрын
35 - same!!!! My man!!!
@issaacxxx6202 4 жыл бұрын
Early 2000s Pop punk music video in a nutshell: Guy going after a girl Mosh pit Skater dude Guy jumping or getting pushed into a swimming pool with all his clothes on
@jimmyrodopski8265 3 жыл бұрын
Actually in "In too deep" by Sum 41 they jump without their clothes.
@yourkeel9012 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of weetus teenage dirt bag😂
@diddlefiggins6557 3 жыл бұрын
Pop punk is not lunn
@Rex-golf_player810 2 жыл бұрын
And then you have Dance, Dance where the band is performing in a prom while the band is also attending it as nerds but the band and the nerds are different characters but i think my liver is fucking failing trying to explain this
@rainelol1841 2 жыл бұрын
And that's fun.
@sensboy1 4 жыл бұрын
"I'll never fall in line, become another victim of your conformity"
@randomdude9698 4 жыл бұрын
BACK DOWN
@asmpoohbear4332 4 жыл бұрын
Sum 41, late 80s/early 90s Green Day, Sex Pistols, and early 80s GG Allin are the ones who got me into writing. (I literally didn't start throwing stuff down until maybe... 2 days ago.) "Wait, you can write lyrics about being bored, hating everything, and wanting to kill yourself for fun and all you need are 3 power chords***? YES!! I never knew you could do that!!" ***I'm a massive sum fan. I'm aware that they're actually very skilled musicians and have some fairly technical stuff with more than 3 power chords lol.
@Selrisitai 4 жыл бұрын
And _back down!_ How the _eff_ did he not mention or show Sum 41 even once? That band is STILL going and making albums as solid as ever.
@sensboy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Selrisitai I think it's because they had many phases as a band. They started off as pop-punk, then they became punk, then they became hard rock and now they're a heavy metal band. He most likely made this video about bands who are strictly pop-punk. But either way Sum 41 will always be a legend in the pop-punk world.
@sensboy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Selrisitai I think it's because they had many phases as a band. They started off doing pop-punk then they did some hard rock stuff and now they're a full-on heavy metal band. I think he's focusing on bands who are strictly a pop-punk band with the exception of Green day. But either way Sum 41 will always be a legend in the pop-punk genre.
@mygetawayart 4 жыл бұрын
Punk logic: Be yourself but don't be outed as a poser
@warprecautions631 4 жыл бұрын
@Transgenda Gubament Back in the late 70s and early 80s when punk was punk. It was a do it yourself attitude. Now its just lets sound angry and mad and "fuck the government" bs.
@G_RIMM 4 жыл бұрын
War Precautions when was any punk band pro government?
@warprecautions631 4 жыл бұрын
@@G_RIMM That is not what I meant. But many punk bands tried to fit this mainstream image and just copy the Sex Pistols. Punk is simply not just 'angry' music.
@kalebgruber7237 3 жыл бұрын
I was worried about "being a power" but fuck it why must I change for anyone fuck itall
@dorothydunn3285 3 жыл бұрын
Super wrong
@joelove1821 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Nate sounds like a lead singer in a pop punk band.
@moonkms8932 4 жыл бұрын
Idk about you man, but I think I'm always gonna have my love for Green Day. It's the music of my childhood
@sorrymomimfloppy7117 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU nobody gets that greenday is punk and not pop.like dude have they heard the album warning and especially nimrod and insomniac,and you can't forget they're very first album 39 smoothed out slappy hours
@TylerPKegger 4 жыл бұрын
I blame the early Tony Hawks games for my love of pop punk
@goharderthanyesterday3935 4 жыл бұрын
Yup & Amped 2/3
@elh.7726 4 жыл бұрын
The influence from those soundtracks is HUGE...i'd say 90% of millenial punk fans got it from those games.
@JCDenton2000 4 жыл бұрын
Same man lol the Tony Hawk games and NHL games pretty much shaped my taste in music
@PohTrain 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@Shreddyyetti01 3 жыл бұрын
Tony Hawk 1, crusty 😈 demons of dirt and the bro hymn. Fuck Ya!!
@TheFlameBladeWielder 4 жыл бұрын
Just saying, it probably would have been a good idea to mention that the Neck Deep guitarist got acquitted of all charges and the girl said she made it up for attention
@dudebreh4178 4 жыл бұрын
i fuckin love neck deep. and anyone punk. don’t matter where u came from imo
@thelastoreo905 4 жыл бұрын
The guitarist from neck deeps is actually kinda cute
@blops1106 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you see that she admitted to making it up? I haven't seen that anywhere.
@TheFlameBladeWielder 3 жыл бұрын
@@blops1106 during the court case
@blops1106 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlameBladeWielder Do you have any source for that? I don't doubt Lloyd's innocence, I just haven't heard about that part.
@natethebluesman 4 жыл бұрын
me and my old freshman English teacher have been sending each other pop punk bands we both like for 2 years over email. This shows that the genre is also timeless as well.
@sileightys 4 жыл бұрын
7:00 branched out to math rock, midwest emo, and 90s hip hop and seriously never looked back.
@violenceisfun991 4 жыл бұрын
Space Ghost, I've listened to The Get Up Kids since I was a teenager and I only found out they were 'midwest emo' cos my ex always described them as that. I'd never heard of Midwest Emo before, I always thought of TGUK as being 'like Green Day but with extended chords' 😂😂
@XDPeterXDPan 4 жыл бұрын
This is sooooooooooooooooo true. It's not even funny.
@musicallystoned7489 4 жыл бұрын
Not many people realise how diverse "Pop Punk" actually is. I'm actually quite surprised you put Screeching Weasel in between Green Day and Offspring. Sadly in terms of influence, kids couldn't care less what the Weasels did. Personally, I think the new generation of Pop Punk bands (2010 Onwards) tend to lean towards "Emo", as opposed to the traditional "Skate Punk" style pioneered by the Weasels, The Descendents, The Parasites, The Queers, early Green Day & Blink, etc. As for the "Power Pop" bit, bands like The Exploding Hearts, The Marked Men, The Biters, or The CRY! were the only ones to fit the description accurately in more recent years. Taking their "Pop" from 50s and 60s Pop and Doo Wop, and combining it with the aggression of Punk and the Mod Revivalists from the late 70s.
@choukichigaijin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions on the "Power Pop" bands. They all feel like a throwback to what I consider 70s era "Pop Punk" or even just good old rock. Reminds me of bands like Buzzcocks, the Kinks, Suzie Quatro, the NY Dolls, Joe Jackson, the Replacements, etc. I like them!
@kyle-9203 4 жыл бұрын
People mixxed indie with pop punk it was awful the 2003 style came back for a little bit then vanished breakdowns and faster tempos came back stuck around awhile
@SkaMasta097 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. To me, any so-called "pop-punk" released 2005 and later (Fall Out Boy, Panic! At The Disco, Paramore, etc.) sounds like and could be better described as emo/alternative than anything else. I think it's weird, laughable, and downright dishonest to suggest otherwise. This may be a bold statement, but to me, you can't have songs that are mostly in a minor key, dark/angsty/emo/misanthropic/nihilistic lyrics, gloomy vibes, Drop D/Db/C tuned guitars, half tempo drums, heavy chugging breakdowns and still be considered "pop-punk". It just becomes something else entirely from the happy, major key, lyrics about high school/girlfriends/skateboarding, etc., standard tuned guitars, punchy double or triple tempo drum beats (to me, "true" pop-punk) of the 90s and early 00s. You could say that the genre as a whole has shifted in this direction. You could even say that the true pop-punk bands (by my definition) from the 90s-early 00s themselves have also drifted in the emo/alternative/post-hardcore/metalcore/crabcore (or as one commenter put it: "punk these days is just just metal-lite.") direction over time. Fair enough. But at least call it what it is and not equivocate it with something that is vastly different.
@mellowcorpsep6665 4 жыл бұрын
reminds me a lot of how screamo went from being a defined genre in the 90s to being a catch-all for every kind of music with harsh vocals after myspace kids discovered the word and overused it. thankfully both real pop punk and real screamo exists but now i just say i listen to punk when someone asks what i listen to to avoid pseudo elitists laughing at me.
@dillchives 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what was coined "pop punk" all the way through the mid to late 90s -- things like Screeching Weasel, the Queers, etc. were a lot different than what came later. Once things had moved on to bands like Sum 41, New Found Glory, and everything after that, some of us had already moved on to stuff like the garage rock revival bands with more overt 50s/60s influences that were coming out of places like Crypt Records, Rip Off Records, and Sympathy for the Record Industry (just to name a couple), and discovering the 1960s punk influences through things like the Nuggets / Back from the Grave / Pebbles comps. Even one of the groups you mentioned, the Marked Men, sprung from the ashes of a more garage-y band, the Reds. Power Pop bands around the same time were along the lines of groups like the Briefs and FM Knives, though I'm sure there are some bands that are more poppy than those that came around a little later.
@ACyrrock004 4 жыл бұрын
I turned 40-years-old this year (don't tell anyone), and I still listen to a lot of pop/punk bands; mostly, New Found Glory, MXPX, Blink 182, even Stand Atlantic (among many other groups, etc.). Some of the best songs, most excellent lyrics, and feel-good vibes.
@Emoboy381 4 жыл бұрын
Music is music, if it catches your ear, whether it's Pop Punk, Classical, Country or whatever, why shouldn't you listen to it
@JamesMartin-bc8xq 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 41 and yep I still love it, but I suggested I lean to more skater punk, but also a fan offspring, green day and penny wise. When it got popular that’s when it become pop punk, when it became American pie/ American shows rock then it changed, but the early stuff still totally awesome.
@DisarMn 4 жыл бұрын
I'll keep listening to Blink-182 and Green Day all day long lol, who cares.
@Ch00bacus 4 жыл бұрын
i do the exact same thing 😄
@swiftstreak98 4 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@holycrusader3130 4 жыл бұрын
You're the man
@bestrafung2754 4 жыл бұрын
So will I.
@coryfoster9373 4 жыл бұрын
DisarMy I loved pop punk but then in my late teens discovered The Strokes and it all change lol. Now I branched out into so many genres it’s great
@bigmints4182 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite Blink-182 song, "Dagnabit", from their "Fellow mates Ranch" album.
@jamrhein2 4 жыл бұрын
Before I watch this, I'm posting my guess. A lot of people hate pop punk because it's an oxymoron. Punk by nature is abrasive and anti establishment whereas pop by nature is polished and establishment. Punks despise pop fans and the feeling is mutual. It takes a certain more open type of person to listen to a genre that blends opposite genres.
@jakeelston1207 4 жыл бұрын
Okay but what happens when you go full circle and come back to listening to mostly/only pop punk. Send help please I've regressed.
@dankbudew4830 4 жыл бұрын
Weezer’s recent song, “ End of the Game” has become my new favorite because it gave me good ol’ 2000 vibes.
@jonnycakemusic 4 жыл бұрын
Pop/punk is my comfort food. I love the simplicity and the nostalgia it gives me.
@WocklessGamingforAnimeMoms 2 жыл бұрын
Early 2000s/Late 90s Type Music,makes sense
@PinkLemonadeForever 4 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised at how little blink was mentioned as in my mind they're surely the biggest mainstream pop punk band right? at least from 1999-2003
@flaminghead1va 10 ай бұрын
True, but keep in mind Nate never said this was a documentary on the complete history of pop-punk
@ejyounggun08 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video. It was profound for me. I'm 29 and grew up with punk and pop/punk as my favorite kind of music. Like you said in the video people will eventually evolve and I did. I used to hate rap and in college I got into it and even messed around with writing and battling at parties. Now I listen to anything with soul but always go back to Blink, NFG and Millencolin when I'm feeling nostalgic or hanging with my childhood friends.
@spagheddie1673 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, the note at the end about the genre meshing well with other sounds is a really good point and I think its starting to become realised. Love it or hate it, we all know about MGK's venture into pop punk (personally think its sick but that's just an opinion) and it's sort of acted like a catalyst for other artists to move into it. Mostly the emo/pop rap artists like iann dior and trippie redd are starting to blend their sounds with it and poorstacy adds an alternative twist with yungblud blending his stylised sound too. The man at the centre of this? Travis Barker. In conclusion, Travis Barker is singlehandedly reviving pop punk.
@limpbrisket6851 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Weezer is really not pop punk my guy
@SOBEKCrocodileGod 4 жыл бұрын
Baden Dennis some songs they have are
@gopher001 4 жыл бұрын
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod they started as nerd punk or sumthing but i think they could have been pop punk but they changed over time
@yungctrlfreak 4 жыл бұрын
lmao right?? weezer is like garage rock and if it needs to be narrowed down more than it's pop rock.
@Fineonee 4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with it is considering these bands as anything punk. The story so far, wonder years and most of these bands are just pop, pop rock. Nothing wrong with Weezer or Jimmy eat world but definitely not punk or even pop punk. Like calling every cola Coke it’s become such a generic term, they are a cola not Coke.
@yungctrlfreak 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fineonee i think since pop has such a different sound than it did in the 90s people hear the guitars and tend to catagorize it in pop rock or pop punk when honestly it's just pop, as least that's my opinion. as much as i hate to call weezer (my fav band) pop, it basically is.
@guilt_triptripraiche7153 4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk is an emotional tribute for a lot of people. It rocks.
@nancygirl6361 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pop punk doesn’t suck.
@emmanuelhall8926 4 жыл бұрын
This is your best video mate you can defently tell you have picked up some good traits watching other youtubers keep up the great work man
@violenceisfun991 4 жыл бұрын
7:13 I can remember being 13 and feeling bad that I was obsessed with BFMV, Cindi Lauper, The Libertines and Eminem. All the other kids in my orphanage made fun of me saying that I was a poseur and I should only listen to one genre of music. But a C is a C no matter what genre you're playing. I think people who play instruments view music differently to others
@itcouldbelupus2842 4 жыл бұрын
The Wonder Years has always been doing things that are more interesting than the rest, and every album from the greatest generation onwards has been an incredible and they've matured over time, instead of perpetually being stuck in their early 20s.
@RoguePlanetSounds 4 жыл бұрын
The Greatest Generation was a pop punk album through and through but it also marked their subtle departure from the pop punk sound. I think a lot of that has to deal with the snyths and I'm so glad they're more prominent on their last two records. Plus his lyrics and the topics he sings about nowadays are way more mature and thought out than most of their peers.
@smanfahh 4 жыл бұрын
Dad, sure pop punk sucks, but that's why i love it
@smanfahh 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid btw luv u
@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
i love u sam. thank you for supporting since day 1. it never goes unnoticed
@mtallmen184 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't really care for pop punk until a few years ago when I realized I was nostalgic for it because it was EVERYWHERE when I was a kid in the early 2000s
@yourkeel9012 3 жыл бұрын
And that's true for everyone..
@prilljazzatlanta5070 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in a black neighborhood in southern Georgia and moved to suburban atlanta in 2001 and i was blown away by how big pop punk was there. It was huge at my high school and it meant nothing to me. But now after nearly 20 years since graduation i find that even though that music meant nothing to me, it matters to me that it mattered to the people around me. Would love to dig into it but im not sure where to start nor am i sure ill ever give this stuff a second listen but im still a physical media guy so if i get into it im buying
@mivvy3182 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather have pop punk more then normal pop any day though.
@Fightookaishii 4 жыл бұрын
Pop Punk was a VERY big part of my teenage years, even though I'm not yet 20 (I'm 19) I still revisit my favourite bands here and there from time to time, it'll never leave me. Really enjoyed this video man.
@tipyw 4 жыл бұрын
I love pop punk, it gives me life and I love when modern music includes pop punk aspects
@baconfromhell666 4 жыл бұрын
6:47 I started off my early teens, even before that, listening to pop, rap and all that. From around my mid teens until now (I'm 31) pop punk and metalcore is what I listen to far most of the time. I guess I'm living life in reverse or something.
@shwnc 4 жыл бұрын
I love TSSF's new record. Proper Dose and Out Of It are two of my favorite tunes of theirs now. I was nervous, because my friend and I always said they would suck if Parker ever stopped having girl problems. Happy to be wrong. Great vid Nate.
@bgl1335 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my favorite Blink song.... Dagnabit
@NoMartialArtsKenny 4 жыл бұрын
Helpthony Metano no, Happy Holidays you Bastard is the best one
@TheTerribleShaman 4 жыл бұрын
That Turnover and Movements shout out made me so happy to see. Turnover gets a lot of flack for changing their sound but every album is just better and better.
@lucreziapellanda9288 4 жыл бұрын
When I first started listening to music I built my music taste around pop punk and in the beginning that was 90% of what I listened to. But with time I was able to enjoy and love other genres such as indie rock, indie pop and even a bit of pop
@fretbuzzlightyear1461 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Turnover a few months ago. I never enjoyed their music but seeing them live made me really love them. Good band indeed
@JACwastaken 4 жыл бұрын
Started with alt-rock, got into hard rock, then rap-rock, and now pop-punk. Who knows were I'll go next
@manicpix2647 4 жыл бұрын
This video is so up my alley it’s insane I listen to every single artist you show??
@carlagraceservedio 4 жыл бұрын
when i saw heart attack man at 6:06 i smiled so hard to myself, i met them last month and they're some of the sweetest, most genuine people. a friend of mine gave eric a worm on a string he put in his pocket and we took a group photo pretending to beat him up. his chaotic energy blinded us all thank u for coming to my ted talk
@LvcifrPlays 4 жыл бұрын
This was a dangerous title name, but I'm glad I took the bait and watched the whole video
@morningstar9222 4 жыл бұрын
The Ramones are not pop-punk...they are credited as the first punk rock band. How can they fall into this sub-genre when they started it all?
@KingOfThePiratesOfTheHill 3 жыл бұрын
Except the Stooges and Iggy Pop come around 5 years before the Ramones... Ramones didnt start shit.
@midnightstorm4290 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingOfThePiratesOfTheHill Exactly man pop punk and the ramones are just bubblegum music....
@enhaworld 4 жыл бұрын
but green day will always be amazing
@StraitjacketWillie 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa. This video is awesome. I've definitely branched off into different musical tastes as I've gotten close to 30, but I still find myself coming back to pop punk every once in a while. I could have a myriad of ideas as to why that is (some of which you mentioned), but I think that aside from plain nostalgia, the simplicity which so often gets ridiculed is a big part of what brings me back. Like you also pointed out, I'm really liking some of the newer bands out there that are taking pop punk elements and mixing in other things from either existing genres (like Tiny Moving Parts or Trash Boat's newer songs) or things that I haven't even heard before. Either way, loved the subject matter, information presentation, and general quality of this video. Great job!
@liammgill 4 жыл бұрын
where does Blink's untitled record fall in this spectrum? i feel like that album is objectively a good and, at the time, fresh piece of music from blink
@thelostbookworm3247 4 жыл бұрын
The way my eyes widened at the title- it hurt.
@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
it ends positively! don't worry
@muddled1vy 3 жыл бұрын
going through these comments has made me realize how many iconic pop punk lyrics there are 16 just held such better days
@kmecu 4 жыл бұрын
for me everything started from the offspring - americana, green day - dookie and blink 182 - enema of the state. I was like 9 years old lol I can only imagine what influence that had on me while I was growing up.
@rdu239 4 жыл бұрын
Detractors say that Green Day and Blink 182 lost much of their legitimacy when they sold out.
@ADCFproductions 4 жыл бұрын
offspring is punk rock! not pop punk xD i'm a huge offspring fan
@2mch2sy 4 жыл бұрын
ADCF Productions thank you Offspring isn’t pop punk
@ADCFproductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@2mch2sy glad someone knows! they do have a few joke songs that could be considered pop punk, but come on this makes me sad. Lightning Rod pop punk? No Brakes? Million Miles Away? Nitro, bad habit, gotta get away, conspiracy of one, americana, the noose, etc etc that's classic punk rock.
@2mch2sy 4 жыл бұрын
ADCF Productions yeah I would say the rise and fall album is a joke album cause I think it mocked pop punk correct me if I’m wrong please
@BewilderedPiranha 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Nate!! Let me first start off by pop punk is sick af. I don’t think I could ever say it sucks but that’s just because I grew up on it and listen to it everyday to me it has much more feeling packed into unlike other stuff now days, yes it can be repetitive but each band really makes it sound so much different. Also who else can’t wait for a new movements record :)
@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
love you justin! thank you m8! new movements will be sick
@jessenunez7205 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 17 and it’s so true about discovering different music and how it develops. I loved pop punk from 2006-2016 with a passion and then I got into metalcore, emo, emo rap, rap, pop, jazz, etc. afterwards
@FelixMarshFTW 4 жыл бұрын
When I was that age 2 years ago I had an uncontrollable urge to listen to never gonna give you up and harder better faster stronger before I transitioned into metalcore and alternative rock
@Matski203 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same exact situation as you mentioned at around seventh minute, I realised that pop punk was the foundation for my future music taste. Various pop punk songs were included in video games I played from mid2000s and thats how it all started. The simplicity and joy that this genre conveys is so appealing for a young kid who can later dive deeper into more alternative music. Now I’m so thankful to pop punk for doing this to me and still making me excited while listening to this shit as if i was 8yo. Thanks for making this video, this topic has always been on my mind; cheers and defend pop punk xDDDD
@samquik 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the new direction of TSSF's Proper Dose. I've also gotten into nothing.nowhere and KennyHoopla's stuff recently, definitely interesting pop punk influences in both their sounds
@MNH2302 4 жыл бұрын
Blink-182 Dagnabit made me laugh
@halimtran9707 4 жыл бұрын
"Dont just immediately write off the new TSSF album just because parker isnt angry anymore" LOL Honestly though the album sounds great
@BewilderedPiranha 4 жыл бұрын
I had to warm up to it but I actually love it now and respect it for what it is
@dog8438 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't get too into it when it came out and then I bought the CD recently for my car and hearing it on the way to and from the work all the time made me really like it
@eyerooshe 4 жыл бұрын
This video hit me in the heart, man.
@darkknight9991 4 жыл бұрын
8:52 I made that Turnover graphic on the left! It’s so cool to see it pop up!
@cbalsky6204 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite blink song has to be dagnabit after watching this video.
@brockt4350 4 жыл бұрын
A video trying to explain/educate about pop punk without any mention of 1. The Descendents 2. Adolescents 3. MxPX 4. Chixdiggit 5. The Copyrigts 6. Teenage BottleRocket 7. Dead MilkMen 8. Gob 9. Guttermouth 10. The Huntingtons 11 Jawbreaker 12. Less Than Jake 13. The Queers 14. Rufio 15. Saves the day 16. Set your goals well now that you leave THOSE bands out...of course it sucks. (yes i "get" what you're saying)
@TJjjjjjjjjjj 4 жыл бұрын
Brock T MxPx are the only decent band in your list mate ;)
@brockt4350 4 жыл бұрын
@@TJjjjjjjjjjj cool
@MadeForBroadway 4 жыл бұрын
Mate that warmed our hearts ❤️ you are so spesh
@boxculture 3 жыл бұрын
Mate you said it perfect there. Punk rock was the first music genre I was really into. It got me into music massively. Now I listen to all sorts, where I never thought I would.
@JCDenton2000 4 жыл бұрын
The point about pop punk kind of being a "starting" genre is especially true with me. Now being in my early twenties, I pretty much listen to all types of music now. Call me lame but I recently have been really getting into Taylor Swift lol. But I will always unashamedly defend pop punk and it is still my favorite genre of music lol. Also on a side note, I think the band Belmont has huge potential to be a big name in pop punk in the future. Literally every song on their debut album is fire. They have the classic pop punk sound but with more energy and and their own twist that just works. Plus from what I've seen they all seem like genuinely cool dudes that you would want to hang out with.
@pooprscuprtroopr7701 4 жыл бұрын
JC Denton yes Belmont’s awesome and has a unique sound for sure.
@aloofshark9791 4 жыл бұрын
I've been avoiding this video cause I felt like you were gonna say what you said. But I'm glad I did
@lachlanwells6703 4 жыл бұрын
So true what you said about pop-punk being a gateway genre, I still love bands like mobo, tmp, basement etc. Yet this probably made me explore other genres on sites like Soundcloud and Bandcamp, I now love mellower styles like hip hop and rnb.
@pryan609 4 жыл бұрын
I still love a ton of pop punk and I'm in my early 40's. However, I also listen to lots of other stuff too. If I hear it and like it then I just do. No need to limit myself to any particular genre.
@spencerpirzadeh5517 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work bro! You’re killing it with these videos! Much love from Pop-Punk League!
@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
dude I love you!!! and your account
@dangershimray680 4 жыл бұрын
Pop punk lyric really inspired me and help me grow ...up Mainly simple plan , green day , sum 21 are just amazing
@GOODBOIN8 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh your taste in music is honestly so choice. Walter mitty? In the videos? My heart bro ❤️ much love
@boxofcereal989 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta look at this from an ACTUAL punk rockers view. I’m not talking Blink 182, I’m talking about Dead Kennedy’s, Black Flag, Minor Threat, and other great bands from the 80s. If you take a fan of THAT music and see them react to their favorite genre get degraded into doopy love songs or songs about sadness when it used to be “Fuck the Government” and “Destroy Everything,” then you can see why they would get upset. I personally enjoy THAT vibe instead of..pop punk
@maryemma5113 4 жыл бұрын
Why was awstens face scratched out :(
@wristsintact 4 жыл бұрын
Totally been my favourite genre since I was 11. I'm almost 28. And I love the new bands.
@andalepuesful 4 жыл бұрын
i am with you man
@MrRom92DAW 3 жыл бұрын
The music’s fine. The problem is that people who build their identity around a genre are generally cringey af. This goes for any genre. Music is music
@pinorska6316 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the music is fine itself though it can be criticized.
@masterknife8423 4 жыл бұрын
7:02 I can totally relate to this. Up until last year I used to listen to nothing but pop punk. But now I like Slipknot, Korn, Deftones and The Smashing Pumpkins. It's nice to have my music tastes grow
@woodsgump 4 жыл бұрын
I came here for The Offspring, Green Day, Blink-182, Good Charlotte, etc.
@ADCFproductions 4 жыл бұрын
The Offspring is punk rock, not pop punk xD
@sorrymomimfloppy7117 4 жыл бұрын
Greenday is not poppy it's punk listen to they're first album ever 39smoothed out slappy hours its punk
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry,mom IM,FLOPPY after AI they were pop punk
@psychwardsandSCENE 3 жыл бұрын
@@sorrymomimfloppy7117 using that logic you could say AFI is a hxc punk band, or a misfits coverband, because they were both at one point in time. green day is NOT a punk band.
@toxicstarbot6701 3 жыл бұрын
@@sorrymomimfloppy7117 According to my mom who was a 70s and 80s punk, Green Day isn't punk.
@Rosiedouce1 4 жыл бұрын
nate the mate: posts a video me: well I WAS gonna go to sleep but obviously I HAVE to watch this😤✊
@NateTheMateForever 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU
@Rosiedouce1 4 жыл бұрын
@@NateTheMateForever IT WAS WORTH IT 100% great video as always. your doing great sweetie
@KD-vg2yn 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to make pop punk music, mid twenties and have so many fond memories to this genre. I’ve got some pretty insane stories and lessons that I would like to pass down to the younger kids.
@gdbssa 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped labelling music when I was around 15/16. Genres breed toxicity in the scene I was in at least. Also long time watcher, first time commenter. Keep up the good work my guy, your channel is 👌
@heric_ 3 жыл бұрын
Punk was born as something POP. "Sex Pistols" were a sort of boy band created at a table and they were signed under Virgin Records, a MAJOR label ! Punk was pop even before that term was coined.
@midnightstorm4290 3 жыл бұрын
No you're wrong. We had "punk" in the late 60s in detroit with The Stooges and the MC5. The singer of The Stooges Iggy pop was called a punk on front page magazine and their music is defo not pop but more of a hybrid of blues and hard rock which is known as proto-punk.....
@imfobk 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. But I think insulting them and not taking these bands seriously kind of misses the point. It's all about those 4-15 second moments you can put into a song that makes you feel something incredibly strong and meaningful from the artists to the listener. Some bands are just lazy and watered down versions of that.
@20nico00 4 жыл бұрын
had not realized who this video was by until the slideshow of your pictures came on. @bracelegs was my bible as an angsty teenager. you do good stuff, man.
@benmcdowell1784 4 жыл бұрын
Yooo you should cite the songs you play in the background. I definitely recognized some Walter Mitty & The Makeshift Orchestra in the intro but didn't see it credited anywhere.
@joshtheripp3rofficial 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 28 and love pop punk still. Nobody will ever change my mind
@joshtheripp3rofficial 4 жыл бұрын
@Conor Winston not yet but within 6 months i actually will be
@Selrisitai 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshtheripp3rofficial Did you just talk to this girl who used to live, yeah, on your street? After all these years you're here, and it's still just you and me.
@joshtheripp3rofficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@Selrisitai sure. Im sure it fits your narrative here
@1.5roganstall89 4 жыл бұрын
Pop Punk haters are just people who don’t want to admit the truth.
@eddiepaul96 4 жыл бұрын
1.5Rogans Tall please clarify what the truth is.
@mellowcorpsep6665 4 жыл бұрын
pop punk haters are mainly just people who used to listen to pop punk
@lfcforever1482 4 жыл бұрын
s y n t a x o i l and people who listened to punk. Imagine being a massive fan of punk bands like Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, The Clash etc and loving punk, and then all of a sudden these new pop rock bands come out and claim to be punk. I know I would hate it too.
@epileptictrees5213 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe I just don't like the music lol
@juniorthehipster 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. I needed it. Pop punk and pizza is the only things my inner child loves. It’s crazy to think that it’s growing up with me
@eyerooshe 4 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. Thank you.
@Lauren___ 4 жыл бұрын
Modern Baseball's last album is GREAT from start to finish...
@myply4766 3 жыл бұрын
fun fact: 99% of green day fans got angry after watching this video
@rolandschmitt3692 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love pop punk so much, but by the time I turned 22, 23 I got so deeply annoyed by pop punk that this former love turned into a passionate hate. It just turned into a parody of itself. Now I mostly listen to new wave punk and everything that's kinda off or weird. But I do think pop punk gave me so much when I was younger, and I'm glad it exists. It was my way into music and the music scene. I also played in pop punk bands, which was so much fun
@gregmitchell9501 Жыл бұрын
I was born in ‘87 and I’d say that gave me the opportunity to be just the right age when pop punk really took off. At 35, I still listen to the crap I listened to as a teenager and enjoy it, but my god, there have been so many fantastic pop punk style bands that have came out in the last 15 years and seem to just be coming out like crazy. There is no shortage of good music in this genre for kids today who are into it, and the quality of it far surpasses a lot of junk we had to listen to back then in my opinion!
@justaguy2365 10 ай бұрын
The things I listened to as a teen makes me cringe now. Lol
@camilob.9542 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that all my friends changed from emo to soundcloud headasses, while I actually went the completely opposite way and now listen to Norwegian death metal.
@JohnSmith-kt3yy 4 жыл бұрын
Vikernes did nothing wrong
@mellowcorpsep6665 4 жыл бұрын
not as big of a difference as youd think
@2mch2sy 4 жыл бұрын
street lamp I know I hate kids that think they thugs and rappers and shit when they are probably sitting on their ass all day
@hunger4369 4 жыл бұрын
And? My whole playlist goes from gangster rap to death metal to trap rap and to grunge.
@shrek6411 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been listing to a lot of wonder years, modern baseball and the the front bottoms
@Glamwraith66 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 24 and I was just recently thinking how I should try and find some new pop punk bands to listen to so this is perfect haha thanks
@mr.patrick6392 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the Mobo reference and I was kinda waiting for you to misplace Tiny Moving Parts but you didn't and that makes me happy :D