Why Power Isn't Everything In Professional Cycling! | GCN Show Ep. 467
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Күн бұрынIt's the GCN Show Christmas Special! Grab a warm cup of cocoa, sit around the fire and enjoy! This week we're talking about how cycling teams spot new talent. The widespread use of powermeters in professional cycling has meant that everybody knows what it takes to win big. So, naturally, cycling teams have started to put more and more emphasis on power data when looking to sign new riders. But should they be doing this? Dan and Si discuss how some teams have now gone back to looking more at racecraft and tactical awareness to get that winning edge over their rivals. We look at this, plus all the usual GCN Show features in the GCN Show Christmas Special!
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0:00 Intro
0:44 This week we learnt...
1:50 Why power isn't everything in pro cycling
12:19 Weekly inspiration
15:58 Cycling Shorts
19:11 Winspace Competition!
19:41 Hack/Bodge
24:02 Caption Competition
26:14 Comments of the week
34:48 Extreme Corner
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@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
Power or Racecraft - which do you think makes the most difference? Let us know in the comments below!
@johnandrews3568 2 жыл бұрын
It's a combination of the two and mental ability too. FWIW at the Zwift academy I predicted Alex and Maud to win after the first episode. If either pro team needs a scout, I AM available.
@JayLato 2 жыл бұрын
Get a big boy (or big girl) cyclist, make he/she drop weight fast, pump he/she full of nutrients. Huge power numbers. Boom. Champion.
@kennethward9530 2 жыл бұрын
Title sponsor for the team is a shampoo company-coaches had to go with the mullet.
@stephenyoung5368 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone with neither...... who cares? It's GREAT to watch!
@renatab8293 2 жыл бұрын
Speculating about what goes on in professional cycling is not a very practical or enlightening activity.
@andymitchell2146 2 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine having Sam on your leadout team though? You could drop a man or two during a stage and still be in good standing.
@ChrisCapoccia 2 жыл бұрын
and also it's worth noting that any of the finalists in zwift academy had a great commercial for themselves to be picked up by other teams. surely some team needs a diesel
@discbrakefan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, have to say they didn’t do Sam any favours by focussing on his negatives. Also, reportedly his brakes were set up backwards which wouldn’t have helped his descending.
@ChrisCapoccia 2 жыл бұрын
@@discbrakefan i don't want to pile on any of the finalists. They were all excellent athletes. But they have different strengths and weaknesses. Sam used his strengths effectively in the points race but was unable to get away even on the flat sections of the climbing race. Definitely seems like the analysis was correct that he was not able to recover as well as Alex after several days of competition. Theory of low cadence damage is questionable, but the main point stands
@Soldier9811 2 жыл бұрын
They all did fab, Sam is still a class rider 💪🏻
@efusco 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the elimination plan had been announced ahead it would be fine, but making it a surprise was what I think was unfair. As you mention, it's about how you do over 5 days, not just one day. But if someone was pacing themselves for the full 5 days but got judged upon only the first 3 days because they were not told there would be an elimination, that's where it's cruel and unfair.
@ai314159 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the Zwift Academy finals, but I thought the judges were pretty unfair to Sam and seemed to be looking for reasons not to sign him from the get-go.
@toomuch9762 2 жыл бұрын
Ya definitely you hit the nail on the head there
@daryl4841 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think Alex's strong race win on the final episode validated the judge's decision that Alex deserved the contract. However if Sam had won that instead, it might have been pretty awkward for the judges.
@whatwelearned 2 жыл бұрын
Si: If you're in your 40s with a FTP in the low 200s you're not going to be turning pro Me, at 39 with a 205 FTP: awkward seal face
@dpgrenfree 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that, most people not turning pro.
@simonm1447 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 38 and I don't even know my FTP as a leisure cyclist (I estimate it can't be much more than 200) - however I like my profession (which hasn't to do with cycling) and I like riding bikes without the force to have to do it
@christopherdwyer9496 2 жыл бұрын
"...we don't make mistakes. That must be a mistake." - Si 2021. 🤔😂 Thanks for a great year of entertainment.
@chrisridesbicycles 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to all at GCN. You made me rediscover my competitive side in bike riding and I am looking forward to race again after years in 2022.
@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you're going to love it. Dan
@scrivener68 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Cyclocross increased its level of difficulty this year with the addition of the peek-a-boo section.
@billmccaffrey1977 2 жыл бұрын
Great story on getting the bike back. Hope the thief spends Christmas in a nice cold cell with a mean guard. So, if I understand your assessment of going pro, I guess at 65 with one leg I don't have a good chance. Loved the Zwift Academy series. Good luck to all the riders.
@curriegillespie8261 2 жыл бұрын
My Cycling super power would not be my abilities to compete. It would be my abilities to get #ButtsOnBikes by leading group rides, showing folks how to connect their desired destinations, getting of the couch and finding their joy. It is all about sharing the smiles!
@davidwrightsr4188 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Second knock out round of the Cyclocross Hide & Seek the Course Event: "...three! two! one!... Ready or not, here I come!"
@stealfwayne 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you all @GCN for the content over the year. It's been great watching something relevant to my and i assume all of our interests. Wish you all a merry (Just merry Dan! ) Christmas.
@SGpropertytrader 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God there's GCN to screencast on hotel tv to keep me sane for my 10 days Quarantine!
@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling 2 жыл бұрын
14:08 well done to Julia for also winning a photo of Hank with cake 🤣
@joinride_cc 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: This insane life hack will keep your glasses clean during cyclocross races.
@lordbertos8124 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: that moment when you remember you forgot to press start on you Strava
@mralbg271 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: He’s got mud on his face, he’s no disgrace, “the other van” turned up and took first place.
@andynelson1977 2 жыл бұрын
How cool was that story about the stolen bike? So good!
@marvmininger1835 2 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays to all of you at GCN! Love all the work you folks do. Thank you.
@JasonTrew2018 2 жыл бұрын
For me, here's my favorite 4 words: bring on the bloopers 😀😀
@tabishop3 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Where do you end up when you play peek-a-boo while riding a bike? The ICU.
@schmidtchen3660 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: "Oh now! I forgot my pressure washer at home!"
@phillippitts6294 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas from the mountains of Tennessee!🎄
@jonniepalmer 2 жыл бұрын
Si, don't be so hard on yourself. Anyone who wins the Ràs is s pretty classy bike rider in my opinion!
@Aura-gd9it 2 жыл бұрын
That scooter thing has Ollie written all over it 🤣🤣🤣
@robbchastain3036 2 жыл бұрын
It does look like he's heading to the clubhouse for another meeting of the Bath Moped Enthusiasts and Restorers.
@Marwoowhh 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Studies conclude that 'hiding from the wind as if it was a scary monster' gives no aero advantage
@mr.t8713 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: "How did you win this race? Michael: I closed my eyes like this in half of all the descents..."
@nigelcrane5309 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas to all at GCN. Thanks for another brilliant year of content. Long may it continue.
@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nigel. You too. Dan
@lordbertos8124 2 жыл бұрын
These Xmas decorations are amazing 😂
@chasc301 2 жыл бұрын
Si and Dan great viewing. Just like watching the Morecombe and Wise Christmas Show. Very cheery and genuine laughs throughout (never realised casualty evacuation by helicopter could raise a giggle…) Thanks to everyone who puts these shows together. I’m off to fashion a bottomed bracket from a live turkey…will send photos. Chas
@jamesbull9879 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: I never saw that win coming!
@johnandrews3568 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Michael Vanthourenhout sees no evil in winning the CX race at Namur.
@TheRealKaner 2 жыл бұрын
19:25 Hey GCN and Winspace. Thanks for the lovely compo prize. Looking forward to getting these on a bike soon.... not that I 'did' anything...filled in a form, answered one question correctly...
@markstaples7545 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: The moment Vanthourenhout realised he forgot to put the bins out!
@robbchastain3036 2 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of mopeds in Frankfurt in the '70s, but that old moped with its gold metalflake patina looks rather splendid. And with its high-rise bars and small wheels and chrome adornments, I'd say it is downright String-Ray-esque.
@nickisherwood9646 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Winter Solstice GCN. Days get longer from now on, so that's a plus! Love my Tuesday GCN Show viewings over the last year. Always got me laughing along. Have a Merry Xmas, or Modraniht if you will, and a Happy New Year!
@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. Dan
@jarrodfife242 2 жыл бұрын
I thought all days were 24 hours long
@nickisherwood9646 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodfife242 Well, in theory that's correct - but it all depends on when you consider the day to start. The Celts, I'm led to believe, had the day starting at sunset and continuing to the next sunset...so, if you're several thousand years old and a Celt, then my original comment would be true, and the time between one sunset and the next is now fractionally longer each day until June 21st. I'm fully aware that I'm pushing my luck with this one, and may have simply typed 'days get' instead of 'daylight gets'...but I'm going with this instead on the off-chance I get away with it :)
@jarrodfife242 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickisherwood9646 I didn’t even know. Is this only in Celtic places like Scotland or Ireland or Wales? I’m in Australia so I don’t think we have that
@nickisherwood9646 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodfife242 I'm going back nigh on 2000 years for this fact. We've been on the 'normal' 24-hour day length for a while now :)
@galenkehler 2 жыл бұрын
Sam sounds like he could take the mantle from Tim Declercq when he retires :)
@winterjohannes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the christmas ideas, will collect my old parts for a second life 😁
@gileswright8320 2 жыл бұрын
Caption Comp: How can I ever unsee Dan in his white shorts?
@CarlBaravelli 2 жыл бұрын
Love the nuanced discussion
@TheUltimateULTRA 2 жыл бұрын
not all pro teams are ignoring data. AlphaCin Fenix are based around a one day classics race team - hence why they chose the less powerful more surgey guy. Whereas other teams may not be looking for specific abilities and just look for W/Kg. (Like ineos)
@petergilheany2 2 жыл бұрын
Caption comp - "the UCI's new rules for descending might be a bit counterproductive"
@d-vngwenya4043 Жыл бұрын
Where's the bit about the sweaty socks? I needed that
@ElonMuckX 2 жыл бұрын
Even Hank saw Ollie dropping his vibe, with that little chuckle.
@adrianhibberd9342 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Xmas 🎄 to all at GCN
@TalkToMeGooose 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Michael Vanthourenhout enjoyed the race too much he didn’t want to see it end.
@BrentonChan 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Doddy's face when he sees his Christmas surprise - 400mm bars with bar ends! Dropper lever nowhere to be seen for more aero gains.
@ltrtg13 2 жыл бұрын
When Dan said watching the cheap vs expensive bike packing makes you want to ride your bike. Was true. How ever I couldn't as I had to go to work after watching it. At least for thee next few days I can go out on my bike.
@garybc 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas everyone!
@aim-at-me 2 жыл бұрын
Guys... a 500wh battery, can deliver 500 watts... for an hour. If Alex can't add another 100w we should probably be worried. It's the motor that will be the limiting factor, not just the bikes, but Alex's too.
@lisapet160 2 жыл бұрын
Behind successful cyclists there are domestiques who care bottles during the race and cycling school's doctors who declare asthma during the childhood.
@will44bott 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Michael covers his face to hide from the shame of yet another Pidcock crash
@jamesdubben3687 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas and Merry New Year.
@FOE7 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas from Finland :)
@J.S.A. 2 жыл бұрын
I could carry my Christmas shopping in the bags under both of your eyes. Merry Christmas, enjoy some down time with your families (bikes). 🎄🎅🚴♂️
@a.l.s.718 2 жыл бұрын
these legs of the moppet's driver!!! that gotta be Dan 🤣🤣🤣
@lukemysse9798 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: ‘the biggest win of my career, hands down”
@wenschobert 2 жыл бұрын
"We didn't do too much" - well as everyone has seen you've had a beer... most important thing ever! Cheers
@thlee3 2 жыл бұрын
having a sacrificial domestique is key
@grantcrispin447 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: me realizing I just won a GCN ELITE!!! Water bottle in RED!!!!
@lg.studio 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: - Look mum, no hands ! - Okay sweetie, just be careful. - Look mum, no eyes ! - ...
@XavierHS89 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: "If I hide, they won't see my attack!"
@alessiaulpiano893 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s Si and Dan’s Christmas decorations with their old Campagnolo cassettes?
@ericcsaba8779 2 жыл бұрын
Great news Maureen!!!! Congratulations on another win!!!! See you next cross season.
@ninaanderson9016 2 жыл бұрын
ooh Dan, noticed bashed finger nail - putting up the Christmas tree? 🙂
@scottf3456 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic show this week
@cb6866 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you......the story about the stolen bike was very cool ! Peace
@russstarke6004 2 жыл бұрын
#Captioncompetition Don't blink the Weeping Angel is right behind you!
@douglaspate9314 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Yes, yes. It works. I can't see any mud on my kit
@robbhiatt1696 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: This is what happens when you spray the winner with Pauwels ketchup instead of champagne.
@jonathanzappala 2 жыл бұрын
Bike flights is a great company. Their rates generally can’t be beat.
@ramonvanderben8120 2 жыл бұрын
CAPTION: "Michael is not afraid to get is hands dirty, so he got this win with his eyes closed!"
@olivierhiroz346 2 жыл бұрын
The 2nd picture is definitely Switzerland, somewhere over Sion in Wallis.
@jefferycampbell2243 2 жыл бұрын
Re Dan's comment on cold feet. The best way I've found to keep my feet warm riding in winter is... Zwift.
@AmaroqStarwind 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to GCN, wooooo! Also, it's my birthday today! :3
@AmaroqStarwind 2 жыл бұрын
10:51 Actually, a great birthday present for me would be if you could find the bastard who stole my satin gray Fuji Nevada.
@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
We probably won't be able to do that, but we will wish you a happy birthday! Dan
@shaffner2 2 жыл бұрын
Grapevine? Looks like the universal code for coke….🤣🤣🤣
@danlancaster2239 2 жыл бұрын
Great job GCN, and good story about the stolen bike. So, what happened to the thief?
@charlesphilli 2 жыл бұрын
Caption competition: For 2022 the UCI have announced a new handicap system to spice up the Grand Tours. “… 99 … 100! Coming! Ready or not!”
@CRBenham20 2 жыл бұрын
Not understanding why they still need a plastic screen between them in the studio after they just traveled for a week to do the zwift academy finals together lol
@BenDavies1991 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they took the screen with them onto the plane 🤷♂️
@billyrose3570 2 жыл бұрын
Dan's got bad breath
@haaamey 2 жыл бұрын
That rough diamond burn was all time 🔥
@ethangodridge6833 2 жыл бұрын
Those films are great.
@velosapien 2 жыл бұрын
14:48 Savièse, Canton de Valais, Schweiz
@iwonanatalia5476 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to all you guys at GCN ! Caption: Wash your face before going to bed xd (it's not as funny as Dan's, but it is first thing that came to my mind)
@charliegalliher 2 жыл бұрын
That bike is so sweet!
@normancalamba3518 2 жыл бұрын
I like the eliminations on zwift academy finals. The eliminations made it a legit reality show. Hoping for more on the years to come
@ai314159 2 жыл бұрын
Watched "The Longest Descent" on GCN+ -- Incredible!
@orcus09 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: The reaction you make after realizing you forgot your face mask at home.
@_driane 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Peak-a-boo!
@paulspencer4631 2 жыл бұрын
North Wave winter shoes are the way ahead. My feet have never been warmer on a cold day.
@13ig13oots 2 жыл бұрын
The sponsors realised the "All Nuts" logo should've been on the shorts.
@Mr.Smolny 2 жыл бұрын
I implanted an airtag into my cube hybrid bike for a peace of mind. Very cool story of returning the bike 😃
@titomon 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: If Tom Pidcock can keep his jersey clean, so can I with my face.
@ViveSemelBeneVivere 2 жыл бұрын
The fundamental answer to sweaty feet is surprisingly low tech - wear pure wool socks. Wool socks are amazing in that they keep one's feet cool in Summer and warm in Winter and aerate one's feet during all seasons.
@terrymartin6093 2 жыл бұрын
My strength is still putting out 300 Watts at 72 years old. It is not just how fast you go, it is how long you can keep going. Ride on!
@gcn 2 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@brentonpobjie9429 2 жыл бұрын
Caption Competition: Rider Finds Facehugging Method Quite ALIEN.
@galenkehler 2 жыл бұрын
Re: Zwift Academy format. I don't think many of us are against the competition, or the actual eliminations. What I don't like is the emotionally manipulative format of the GCN presentation.
@bergerniklas6647 2 жыл бұрын
#Captioncompetition "When you see Tim Bishop has already postet a comment for Captioncompetition."
@sprojy9517 2 жыл бұрын
Caption: Vanthourenhout reminding everyone he is a handy rider.
@EmilyKira 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to be pro until Si said I couldn't as a 40-something, not-at-all aero person. 😉 I did go from not being able to ride a full mile 4 years ago to doing my first 100-miler this year. Thanks to GCN for all the inspirational videos and how-to videos. Hopefully, I'm just getting started. But yeah, probably won't be pro. 😅🚴♀
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