Why Powerlifters SUCK at Weightlifting

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Clarence0

Clarence0

Жыл бұрын

Lifting programs: weightliftingfix.com/

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@paoloh885
@paoloh885 Жыл бұрын
I've always found it pretty ironic that powerlifting doesn't rely on power at all while power is everything in weightlifting. Honestly powerlifting and weightlifting should switch names.
@dougclark9921
@dougclark9921 Жыл бұрын
I use WLing as a way to build my power ironically. If you dont want to grind a weight up you need to move quick and the clean has always been the best way for me to work on that.
@joshuaroughan3350
@joshuaroughan3350 Жыл бұрын
Accurate, Power relates to speed over time, while powerlifters often grind out movements which is drawing upon strength more than power.
@vdantr3635
@vdantr3635 Жыл бұрын
As someone training for powerlifting, I couldn’t agree more
@Evanator619
@Evanator619 Жыл бұрын
It's all about form
@trannyslayer-5693
@trannyslayer-5693 Жыл бұрын
Look up the definition for power. Seems pretty relevant to powerlifting.
@aclouti6
@aclouti6 Жыл бұрын
i teach guitar for a living, and this reminds me of when my intermediate/advanced electric guitar students want to try classical guitar. you have to pretend like you've never touched a guitar before in your life, and build from the beginning. cool video.
@alaefarmestatesllc
@alaefarmestatesllc Жыл бұрын
The trick to being good at guitar is having 50 fingers. Don’t lie to me
@aclouti6
@aclouti6 Жыл бұрын
@ladgend productions they’re both cool, but there is some asymmetric intelligibility between the two styles. Just like how a weightlifter would almost certainly do better in a powerlifting meet than a powerlifter would do in a weightlifting meet, the same generally holds true when comparing classical guitar to electric. There’s just another level of technical proficiency that’s required of both weightlifting and classical guitar. That’s not to say that powerlifting or electric guitar aren’t hard or impressive, it’s just that the skills needed to be successful at weightlifting and classical guitar transfer better than they would the other way around.
@leq1414
@leq1414 Жыл бұрын
​@@aclouti6 That's completely false. Electric guitar can be just as hard or harder than typical classical guitar. Let a random classical guitarist try to play Frank Gambale style picking. He would need years to develop the technique, most likely will never reach it.
@aclouti6
@aclouti6 Жыл бұрын
@@leq1414 I never said it couldn’t be as hard, I said that there’s asymmetric intelligibility. Don’t put words in my mouth.
@jaska-jalmarixvi5757
@jaska-jalmarixvi5757 Жыл бұрын
now do classical gas
@Ash-hr8ud
@Ash-hr8ud Жыл бұрын
The front rack kid is insanely strong
@incorrectopinion
@incorrectopinion Жыл бұрын
By the time he’s FrontRackMan he may even surpass Clarence himself!
@nonduality1
@nonduality1 Жыл бұрын
which one is he
@simonkaerts2228
@simonkaerts2228 Жыл бұрын
@@nonduality1 3:23
@rdog657
@rdog657 Жыл бұрын
I think the most fun part about implementing WL into my PL program is starting at step 1. Years into powerlifting, you sometimes get tired of doing the same heavy work on the same movements/variations. Being able to just take a bar and learn the snatch is oddly enjoyable
@brucepower3429
@brucepower3429 Жыл бұрын
What are your numbers with powerlifting?
@rdog657
@rdog657 Жыл бұрын
@@brucepower3429 currently (in pounds) S: 562, B: 391, D: 625. BW goes between 258-270
@brucepower3429
@brucepower3429 Жыл бұрын
@@rdog657 that's awesome man and i'm not gonna lie weightlifting learned me about stretching again i totally lost my mobility because of PL never saw any reason to stretch when i did PL.
@rdog657
@rdog657 Жыл бұрын
@@brucepower3429 I’ve seen so many older lifters suffer from issues like knee and elbow joint mobility. I completely agree w you, I love being able to practice my front rack position and relearning that mobility
@SK-tr1wo
@SK-tr1wo Жыл бұрын
athleticism and playing a sport is more fun than powerlifting and weightlifting
@phrsngx5675
@phrsngx5675 Жыл бұрын
lmfao I lost it at "that's our boy hemingway"
@freakied0550
@freakied0550 Жыл бұрын
Poster child checking in here. 700lbs + squat and deadlift, 500lbs+ bench, 550lbs front squat, 350lbs strict OHP (which is als0 15lbs more than my best push press because I never really did those)... couldn't power clean 300lbs to save my life.
@tv26889
@tv26889 Жыл бұрын
Explosive power is genetic. The vertical jump is a good test to see how good you'll be at olympic weightlifting.
@Sam-uk4mb
@Sam-uk4mb Жыл бұрын
@@tv26889 what is your vertical jump tony
@tv26889
@tv26889 Жыл бұрын
@@Sam-uk4mb Never got it tested TBH. A vertical of 35 inches and higher would be someone who would be good at the olympic lifts.
@MrOpticBlade
@MrOpticBlade Жыл бұрын
@@tv26889 Strength is genetic as well. Everything is genetic. But judging your genetic without years of training is stupid. Someone could be very responsive to training stimulus and therefore be genetically gifted.
@tv26889
@tv26889 Жыл бұрын
@@MrOpticBlade We were talking about Explosive power and it doesn't improve that much. You don't go from a 30 inch vertical to a 38 inch vertical from training and even drugs. The person in the original comment had elite numbers on their lifts but couldn't clean 300 pounds. That's someone who isn't very explosive. I would wager their vertical is around 25.
@marcelluswallace5325
@marcelluswallace5325 Жыл бұрын
Man this video came right on time Clarence. Just transitioned from Powerlifting to Weightlifting a month ago and oh boy. Just everything you have mentioned is 100% true from A-Z. Thanks man.
@fignewton8690
@fignewton8690 Жыл бұрын
You and Dimitry are my favorite weightlifters, I am almost 60 and just started weightlifting. Don’t mind if I ever CJ 100 K I love the process and will do until my passing…..wished I had known this as a kid
@ronnieplumper6047
@ronnieplumper6047 Жыл бұрын
It’s only every ‘you vs you’ for all of us - just be patient and enjoy the journey brother. Good luck
@saint5382
@saint5382 Жыл бұрын
Keep it going
@1reset1
@1reset1 Жыл бұрын
What's your clean and jerk atm and how long since you started, just curious?
@fignewton8690
@fignewton8690 Жыл бұрын
@@ronnieplumper6047 thank you
@fignewton8690
@fignewton8690 Жыл бұрын
@@saint5382 thank you
@mattpen7966
@mattpen7966 Жыл бұрын
Tricker and former powerlifter here. You inspired me to move to olympic lifts, and way more squatting as a result. It really helps my knees when training tricks and feels like i could progress at oly lifts for years to come. Thanks!
@budgetlifter
@budgetlifter Жыл бұрын
As someone with a more bodybuilding-based training background, this video really spoke a lot to me. I've been learning the snatch technique for the past few months (first with an old 10 kg practice bar, then with a proper olympic bar) and I'm getting more and more confident, stable and stronger in the positions. My current Snatch PR is 37.5 Kg for a triple with arguably decent technique. (if I can say so myself, been talking to a few people in olympic weightlifting gyms and they say it looks good, i just need to become faster in the turnover). Of course, that isn't much at all but once I nail the technique even more I'm sure it's gonna go up. You are a great inspiration Clarence, never change dude.
@square7935
@square7935 Жыл бұрын
xqcL u got this my friend we are all in this together
@tasis3835
@tasis3835 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what are your prs on deadlifting/squat/ overhead press? Just to understand the proportion because I don't really know what I can snatch and clean with my actual force
@JinnDante
@JinnDante Жыл бұрын
You got this. Just remember to not use your arms in thr first pull of either the snatch or the clean. This is most often the issue bodybuilding guya have.
@joey0wns
@joey0wns Жыл бұрын
hey frend
@andresjimenez8520
@andresjimenez8520 Жыл бұрын
I am very skinny, does it make sense to do hypertrophy exercises at the start of Olympic lifting and then in the long run as part of my training as well? Or it's just going to cause me problems.
@clarence0
@clarence0 Жыл бұрын
Lifting programs on my website: weightliftingfix.com/
@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072
@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072 Жыл бұрын
Is there a beginner weightlifting program?
@TheDavveponken
@TheDavveponken Жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072 I'd like to know too! I have a lot of experience doing squats, deadlifts and bench press already but am completely new to snatch.
@clarence0
@clarence0 Жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072 Yep!
@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072
@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072 Жыл бұрын
@@clarence0 where
@rajatrai130
@rajatrai130 Жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072 Click the link on the comment you replied to
@averagelifter
@averagelifter Жыл бұрын
I've been training only in weightlifting for 2 years now. I'm now going to some powerlifting and other muscles I do not train much to help balance out everything. Every exercise my traps were unconsciously helping out pointed by others. I also was trying to lift everything with so much speed and people did not know how to spot me. There are so many ways to lift and I love it. I hope you make more videos Clarence, love the discussions.
@RedSkyWhisper
@RedSkyWhisper Жыл бұрын
As someone who focused on powerlifting before eventually making the complete switch, here are my learnings: - being too strong meant on most movements my strength became a crutch that did not transfer when upping the weights - being used to lock out all joints means I have to untrain my body reflex and stay mobile and elastic during the first pull - not really needing to have mobility means I have to stretch all the time to make up for the time I was not
@drdnj
@drdnj Жыл бұрын
Clarence I'm soo happy you're posting more than you usually do, really happy to see your content.
@jeungbou
@jeungbou Жыл бұрын
Very convincing and interesting analysis. I wouldn’t say you are to hard on powerlifters. Both are barbell sports, but completely different and attract different people. I know from weightlifters who entered a powerlifting meet and were so exhausted that they sweared to never do it again while others loved it and switched because they couldn’t stand the stress anymore of putting huge weights over head in a movement where so much could go wrong.
@KodieJames13
@KodieJames13 Жыл бұрын
I can never miss a Clarence upload. Love this guy
@lawrenceroadloonie3847
@lawrenceroadloonie3847 Жыл бұрын
Good for you
@incorrectopinion
@incorrectopinion Жыл бұрын
If Clarence has a million fans, I am one of them. If Clarence has a thousand fans, I am one of them. If Clarence has ten fans, I am one of them. If Clarence has one fan, it’s me. If Clarence has 0 fans, I don’t exist.
@CM-ky3ow
@CM-ky3ow Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see Blahino in a Clarence video.
@castlebilliards8712
@castlebilliards8712 Жыл бұрын
@@cold_servo_pie blaha has no program. That 5x5 program had been around for decades before stroke mouth surfaced , all he did was add curls to it and then claim it as his own program . As with everything else , where you find blaha you will find dishonesty
@robertkamb9445
@robertkamb9445 Жыл бұрын
Ex powerlifter that converted to weightlifting in the last 9 months, went through a lot of these issues at first but now I'm starting to get around the 140kg C&J and the 110kg snatch, it's been a fun process, I have stopped doing deadlifts and besides one 12 week block with high bar squats, have focused on front squats only and it's actually very fun working on the technique and mobility now.
@drhjhulsebos
@drhjhulsebos Жыл бұрын
It sure was a kick in the nuts going from a 240kg back squat back to a bar but I figured it would be cool to hit a 100kg snatch once in my life. I've found that everything you said was true. Definitely true that very little effort is needed to maintain appropriate strength levels, maybe just 7-10 heavy triples a week done after the mobility, sitting in a squat, snatch variations and overhead squats which I do until I feel that form has broken down past the point of effective training. I've always done clean grip front squats but found that I still had a ton of mobility work for the shoulders to catch. Two months in and my max is still around the same weight as what I can do for 5 ~ 70kg but that's weighing in at 140kg.
@danielamon6978
@danielamon6978 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. I’ve been weightlifting almost 4 years now after almost 20 powerlifting, and you’ve nailed every major problem I continue to face. My overhead position and ability to get there with a snatch is still terrible, and the deadlifting mechanics took forever to unlearn. This is the first year I haven’t felt majorly limited, so patience is huge. That said, weightlifting is wayyyy cooler 😂
@tasbirmiah5247
@tasbirmiah5247 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I got into weightlifting this september and having to unlearn the rounded back with the uneven shoulder blades from mixed grip deadlifts is just so hard. How'd you unlearn the rounded back? I feel like ive tried everything but it feels like its gonna take years to fix it.
@Robdutton91
@Robdutton91 Жыл бұрын
@@tasbirmiah5247 keep practicing pulls with weight that’s light enough to stop you from going into bad habits 👍
@kugelschreiber5678
@kugelschreiber5678 Жыл бұрын
Dude, weightlifting is SO frikkin cool. I wish gyms around me had some Olympic style lifters attending. Unfortunately, I live in a big city, and almost no one over here does it. A lot of powerlifters that don’t do more than low bar back squats and bench press.
@Robdutton91
@Robdutton91 Жыл бұрын
@@kugelschreiber5678 you should start and be that weightlifter in your gym
@tasbirmiah5247
@tasbirmiah5247 Жыл бұрын
@@kugelschreiber5678 Catalyst athletics best youtube channel and website for learning olympic weightlifting is what I found. Every single problem that you got has been solved there and greg everret (the coach) knows basically everything. You should also try looking up clarence kennedy's guide to the snatch and just practice each movement and obtain the mobility with a pvc pipe (you can literally do it all at home too btw) and also buy some olympic weightlifting shoes. So just obtain the mobility, learn the movement and spend like 1 month just slowly learning the movement bit by bit
@theycallme_tanner
@theycallme_tanner Жыл бұрын
As a powerlifter who went into weightlifting, Clarence made a very accurate video on this subject. Almost every topic he brought up I experienced to some degree. I really appreciate how objective he was about this.
@castlebilliards8712
@castlebilliards8712 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the fake merc/fake coach get a mention. He was unable to make weight for "worlds" so he blamed it on black mold in his section 8 rental lol that's our boi hemmingway
@chriswilson5441
@chriswilson5441 Жыл бұрын
I love the topics you discussed in these last 3 videos
@greengamma569
@greengamma569 Жыл бұрын
I recently started incorporating power cleans and hang cleans into my routine. I dont plan on doing Olympic weightlifting, but I was tired of feeling slow and unathletic with my current powerlifting style training, and thought more power and speed would really help, especially since I plan on doing some type of sport after college, whether it be mma or strongman. It’s Definitely been humbling. I thought for sure with my good strength base It would be easy- instead it’s taken me almost 3 months of consistent training to reach a measly 100kg power clean at a bodyweight of just over 90kg.The thing is that’s only half of my best back squat and not even half of my deadlift pr. It’s frustrating but rewarding at the same time. I’ve noticed my speed on the back squat and deadlift has improved tremendously already, and my hip mobility is leagues ahead of where it used to be. I’m hoping that by this time next year, I can look back and fondly remember struggling with 100kilos while I’m repping out 140kg :).
@supermut1530
@supermut1530 Жыл бұрын
the voice of the eternal spirit blessing us with more weightlifting knowledge
@squill7779
@squill7779 Жыл бұрын
Do you think OLY weight lifting exercises could be used as accessory movements for powerlifting? Like the time under tension in a ATG clean benefiting your overall back squat numbers? I enjoy training both but I’m definitely more on the side of powerlifting.
@trtnec
@trtnec Жыл бұрын
Yes they could help, but for the literal opposite reason of time under tension - explosive power and speed. That's the reason why elite athletes in various power/speed-based sports are just insanely strong for their bodyweights when they do strength lifts.
@davidpage9295
@davidpage9295 9 ай бұрын
heres a quick training exemplar used for college/university athletes -Primary Exercise Pause Back Squat (10 sets of three) -Auxilliary Exercise Clean + Front Squat + Jerk (10 sets) -Accessory Exercise Bulgarian Squat (3 sets of 10 reps) this can be used for with snatch complexes & multiple other variations just need be keep a REAL constant ... 90 reps in 45 minutes to an hour max youre welcome
@chase8217
@chase8217 Жыл бұрын
cool to see your programs not so ridiculously priced. definitely gonna check them out.
@chihiro5156
@chihiro5156 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Clarence. Absolutely love this kind of content... This video give me a ton of knowledge about weightlifting... 😆🤩
@DCJayhawk57
@DCJayhawk57 Жыл бұрын
I did weightlifting for a couple years before getting into bodybuilding and now powerlifting focus. A few months ago I did some cleans just for fun and hit a PR, but my front rack was bad and ended up causing my elbow tendinopathy to flare up lol. I didn't realize how I'd basically lost my front rack. I've added at least 1" to my arms and 3" to my chest since I did weightlifting, so getting into overhead position is hard. When I do OHP, I do focus on strong lockout, so my jerk positioning is rather OK, though I can't overhead squat at all right now. I'm getting older to get back into weightlifting and the ego aspect makes it hard for me to take the leap. Not sure if I want to dedicate months to years regaining my positioning when I find bodybuilding and powerlifting a lot more joint friendly. Plus, it took me a long time to gain this much mass. Maybe I could keep a lot of it, but know I'd be fighting a positioning battle for snatch.
@ExecutionSommaire
@ExecutionSommaire Жыл бұрын
Hello Clarice, do you also sell your stack along with the programs?
@chrism45
@chrism45 Жыл бұрын
I used to mess around with weightlifting as a weak powerlifter. Since I've had some lower back pain I can't do anything with impact like jumping, cleaning or snatching. But SBD are still fine. I hope one day I fully recover and I can get back into giving it a good go.
@jackkovar7806
@jackkovar7806 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was illuminating.
@robertarnold6192
@robertarnold6192 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you’re being too hard on us powerlifters. It’s a totally different art form, and I appreciate your frank assessment. As someone who might soon experiment with weightlifting, it’s a welcome admonition.
@SuperSilver316
@SuperSilver316 Жыл бұрын
Would you say that a strict standing OHP from the collarbones is better for weightlifting, than one that starts a little higher but below chin level? I don’t do too much bar lowering, but I’m unable to start my presses at the collarbone level (if I did my elbows would be behind the barbell), but would that matter if I wanted to get into weightlifting, I lock them out behind my neck.
@AccountNo4793
@AccountNo4793 Жыл бұрын
"That's our boy hemingway" was very cheeky 😂😂😂
@KickinTodlrs
@KickinTodlrs Жыл бұрын
My back-squat took a dive but my Snatch/ C&J is improving. Feels good!
@tigeryeo6224
@tigeryeo6224 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! Thanks for the video. A question, why is the higher frequency training necessary for weighlifters, as opposed to powerlifters? What are the differentiating factors? And how does that affect recovery comparatively? Cheers mate
@andresjimenez8520
@andresjimenez8520 Жыл бұрын
Clarence, you mention that there's no point in doing strength exercises while you're starting to learn Olympic lifting. I am very skinny, does it make sense to do hypertrophy exercises at the start of Olympic lifting and then in the long run as part of my training as well? Or it's just going to cause me problems. Great video .
@JinnDante
@JinnDante Жыл бұрын
He made some general guidelines not everyone falls under the same principles. But yeah what Clarence means is generally you need to see how well you move with light weights and build that memory of clean and jerk and the snatch. Of course squats are necessary with correct technique. All this is coming from a dude that was lanky in thr past having a height of 188 cms.
@mattmilstead3733
@mattmilstead3733 Жыл бұрын
You right the mobility in the front rack is my biggest flaw in the front squat
@vict3071
@vict3071 Жыл бұрын
Weightlifting is such a bourgeois sport. Hours up on Hours of plastic pipe- smoking practice. Specialty bar, bumper weights, Specialty flooring platforms, etc etc. Powerlifting on the other hand, a month or two of learning the techniques and development of good form, a bar, a bench and a cheap rack. That's all you are in business. Don't need to lift 3 hours a day 6 days a week. One can sufficiently become stronger with only 2 day sessions per week of only 45 to 60 minutes at a session in Powerlifting. Powerlifting is viable for the common working man with a 40 hours a week working schedule. Weightlifting on the other hand, good luck, the damn sport is your full time occupation.
@MaRaX93
@MaRaX93 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to train 6 days a week for weightlifting either, you're not lu
@godgodson1765
@godgodson1765 Жыл бұрын
True
@paoloh885
@paoloh885 Жыл бұрын
@@MaRaX93 it's still a lot more time consuming
@oneofmany31
@oneofmany31 Жыл бұрын
Thats why weightlifting is an olympic sport and powerlifting is a hot garbage dump, coming from a powerlifter. There a re chinese kids training forms blindfolded this techniques with thousand year schools. Powerlifting is more suited for me personally. I just wanna have fun
@davidpage9295
@davidpage9295 9 ай бұрын
you just need a pair of shoes and find a respectable gym - if you still manage to find excuses its on you. Anyone that is healthy can drop by an hour everyday of the week to be in shape & i personally experienced over time that olympic weightlifting variations are way easier to recover from than the sluggish "powerlifting" lifts.
@scottv6726
@scottv6726 Жыл бұрын
Good recommendations whether starting out or getting back in after an absence from it. Zack says it well too: "low expectations but high standards"
@stunnaphunkyuh7600
@stunnaphunkyuh7600 Жыл бұрын
What workouts would you suggest for someone who wants to get into olympic weightlifting? Because I can barely snatch a 45 lbs bar, and have to resort to using a 35 lbs bar instead, and was wondering lifts could help me increase my snatch.
@roopelevola4873
@roopelevola4873 11 ай бұрын
@8:32 is a good point but it would be probably wiser to MAINTAIN strength when learning olympic lifting since maintaining doesn't take a lot time or effort (1 moderately hard set per exercise goes a long way).
@nonaaame550
@nonaaame550 Жыл бұрын
cheeky little bloho reference was a sight to behold
@acid4010
@acid4010 Жыл бұрын
Great video Clarence!
@ayda2876
@ayda2876 Жыл бұрын
will you upload training videos again ? would love to see some raw squat footage from recent trainings. Also has anyone tried the 10 week squat program and let me know how it went ?
@minhazulislam9131
@minhazulislam9131 10 ай бұрын
This is a great video to learn about lifting. I understand, any type of movement in weightlifting takes years to learn and build techniques and strength.
@OldHoboManYouTube
@OldHoboManYouTube 3 күн бұрын
You probably wont ever see this but I found it great how you kept using the paths. Im a massive AOT fan so I had to recognize it instantly.
@beburs
@beburs 8 ай бұрын
I agree on some of the things,but you have to mention the need to practice snatches and cleans because those movements are ironically more skill based than conventional movements like deadlifts and squats.
@ZzTheEragonZz
@ZzTheEragonZz Жыл бұрын
I feel this video. I started PL one year ago for fun and bc of Clarence's video. Now I'm transitioning into WL without any coach, and keep doing PL exercices... It make really sense that keep grinding for SBD RP doesnt make sense meanwhile I'm not abble do to a proper snatch 🤡
@LeeKeyrouz
@LeeKeyrouz Жыл бұрын
This is all so true😢. Learning the clean and snatch pull are sooooooo different from a deadlift! Plus explosiveness isn't there at all, even though you would think there would be a transfer of strength from squats to jumping..... not so much🤣
@joelmartinez2668
@joelmartinez2668 Жыл бұрын
Ha! The pvc pipe clip is from Mako in Pensacola where I used to go for a few months!
@wojfer87
@wojfer87 Жыл бұрын
It is great you are publicing this great stuff Clarence. I was squatting today ATG 100 kg. :)
@Puss1man
@Puss1man Жыл бұрын
why proud of weak?
@Sku11Hax
@Sku11Hax Жыл бұрын
big
@TheDayStream
@TheDayStream Жыл бұрын
@wojfer87 kiedy jakiś materiał z treningu szefie?
@jsem94
@jsem94 Жыл бұрын
@@Puss1man depending on bodyweight 100kg squat isn't weak. It may not be all that strong, but it is certainly not weak compared to the average male
@o-neil
@o-neil Жыл бұрын
@@Puss1man why you mad
@Markotsuki
@Markotsuki Жыл бұрын
When you say that you need to train quite often to progress with weightlifting I'd assume this also applies to athletes doing weightlifting on the side to supplement their sport. Is there anyway for athletes to progress with weightlifting beyond a certain point if they can't train in that frequently.
@shvmichael
@shvmichael Жыл бұрын
1:42 what a callback! Totally forgot about our boy Hemingway.
@basicmeme1040
@basicmeme1040 Жыл бұрын
Depends if they hit legs maybe they can clean and jerk. As for snatch crazy movement pattern and shoulder strength
@Andreastheduck
@Andreastheduck Жыл бұрын
glad u included hemingways OHP. he's a world class elite lifter
@patale1640
@patale1640 Жыл бұрын
😂 why does he call blaha hemmingway?
@Andreastheduck
@Andreastheduck Жыл бұрын
@@patale1640 see natural hypertrophys fake merc character study for context
@hamm0155
@hamm0155 Жыл бұрын
So that was Blaha, right? I would like to hear the Hemingway story, with which I am not familiar.
@JakeEarl
@JakeEarl Жыл бұрын
the best thing is that clip was from his fake weights arc, where he claimed to press 225 or something close to it a month after pressing 165x3 at a commercial gym
@kaos092
@kaos092 Жыл бұрын
@@hamm0155 Jason paid some guy online to post a video of a story about how he was a mercenary with him (Jason). He said they all called Jason "Hemmingway". Turned out the guy was just a friend of Blaha's meth addicted stripper girlfriend.
@theblackdeath4450
@theblackdeath4450 Жыл бұрын
Bro spit facts in our minds again I wish he keep posting like old days 🥲
@00Sembene
@00Sembene Жыл бұрын
After a decade of training I view resistance training like a buffet of sorts. I pick and choose what i like and interests me from calisthenics, bodybuilding, powerlifting and weightlifting as i believe when looking at one's performance holistically you cannot forego either of them. There is no harm in trying out something new but i don't believe it is necessary to abandon the rest. However if you have a goal of getting better at one specific thing or competing in a sport then by all means focus on what is important.
@Feedsyourminds
@Feedsyourminds Жыл бұрын
That's a nice viewpoint to have. Everyone is so quick to find their tribe and swear by their respective type of training but I also enjoy the freedom of using pieces of various training styles.
@andrek6920
@andrek6920 Жыл бұрын
This is somewhat my own viewpoint aswell. A secondary advantage of this is that this applies your strength better in the world outside of sports. When you go through life you dont just lift your own body, you dont just do explosive lifts from ground to above your head, you dont just do slow and heavy lifts and your looks do certainly matter. You have use for all of it, sometimes you need to pull your body up, sometimes you need to lift a fridge or couch or carry heavy stuff, sometimes you need to throw things, and sometimes you need to look good. It also good to add in cardio and gymnastics as endurance/running aswell as flexibility and mobility are also relevant to life. So if you arent in a sport that requires just one of these things then it is very much in your own best interests to commit some time to all of these things, and you dont need to do all of these things every day. You also dont need to be a master at all of this though, you just need to get some level of proficiency.
@Sam-uk4mb
@Sam-uk4mb Жыл бұрын
@@andrek6920 This is why I enjoy playing rugby. It gets you using your strength in an explosive way
@ggh_-ts6pn
@ggh_-ts6pn Жыл бұрын
@@Feedsyourminds dont forget exercises outside of strength too. Too many lifters dont do specific cardio training especially the steady state endurance based. For me I love lifting and but I also enjoy running for miles outside 5 AM in the morning more. Also dont forget mobility exercises like yoga too which can overall help your overall fitness.
@kaizenproductions00
@kaizenproductions00 Жыл бұрын
1:46 Non negotiable!!!
@mazmazmazmazmazmaz
@mazmazmazmazmazmaz Жыл бұрын
Good video. I thinkt he mobility demands of weightlifting are so much higher than PL - especially in the shoulders. When I tried weightlifting, I was very frustrated because it felt like the weights (empty bar, etc) were too light for me to "feel" the movement. Like, there's not enough weight to feel the tension in the right places, it seemed. At light weight, I ended up just using strength to manipulate the bar path with strength, instead of technique. But I agree that it's bad and dangerous to jump in weight from the start. Any remedy for this? Or just patience and unlearning in the beginning?
@aethylwulfeiii6502
@aethylwulfeiii6502 6 ай бұрын
The explosiveness of Olympic weightlifting transfers really well to sprinting and track cycling, in a way powerlifting doesn’t.
@benvz777
@benvz777 Жыл бұрын
These videos clarence be dropping are fuggen quality!
@ka_ching
@ka_ching Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if it's possible to integrate weightlifting and a powerlifting/bodybuilding workout. I've started weightlifting and I agree with the need for frequency. But I'm not ready to give up 5 times a week powerlifting as I've recently gotten past a plateau and want to see how far I can push.
@DerUser10
@DerUser10 Жыл бұрын
Try finding some supertotal programs. The goal is the max amount in a year from both sports. A lot train one of the two as the main focus and the other as technique accessory or to at least keep the specific strength
@aaronlegend14
@aaronlegend14 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Clarence. I’m having a hard time humbling myself while I train with a broomstick in my bedroom. I feel so silly knowing I can squat or overhead press impressive weight.
@soddoman1868
@soddoman1868 Жыл бұрын
clarence what are your thoughts on whether gatorade should be thicker
@SirChigurh
@SirChigurh Жыл бұрын
In my experience, the first 6-12 weeks of going from powerlifting to weightlifting isn't "fun" as it will take this amount of time to get the right shoulder positions, which is the biggest limiting factor IMO.
@terryconjugateiron
@terryconjugateiron Ай бұрын
I've been powerlifting for 13 years. I've always found Olympic lifting super fascinating. I enjoy implementing snatch grip deadlifts and power snatches. I think they're great on developing power. Never had an ego issue since I am a coach and technique freak. I do empty bar up to 50-60 kg and have a great time using them as accessories in my training
@Projectmuaythai
@Projectmuaythai Ай бұрын
Imma knock you out Terry! IAM the best muay Thai champion! Just kidding!you go king 👑
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
@ShinSuperSaiyajin Жыл бұрын
1:47 the merc blessed us with his press LOL
@Kendoeirbdo
@Kendoeirbdo Жыл бұрын
Love to see our boy hemingway!
@skylerfincham4666
@skylerfincham4666 Жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU GET FOOTAGE OF HEMMINGWAY?
@Pippasaurus
@Pippasaurus Жыл бұрын
That’s our boy Hemingway!
@ADB.3
@ADB.3 Жыл бұрын
I like how the background pic is the pathways from Attack on Titan
@aravindm850
@aravindm850 Жыл бұрын
Clarence, please could we get a Beginner Weightlifting program?
@MoralesCorner
@MoralesCorner Жыл бұрын
I like Clarence's new approach to this channel. He just pops up every now and then to talk about whatever it's on his mind. And we all just sit down in a circle on the floor and listen.
@hugo9078
@hugo9078 Жыл бұрын
I just started powerlifting 2 months ago and i know at some point i will try weight lifting ! (even if my ankle mobility is terrible for wl)
@BottleDeopt
@BottleDeopt Жыл бұрын
Not sure about having a big deadlift not translating well into Olympic weightlifting, especially the clean and jerk part. Deadlift doesn't require you to get underneath the bar, yea, but the initial lifting aspect where you have to lift the bar from the ground? Even a 100kg clean is going to feel extremely heavy, if not impossible if your max deadlift is only 150 kg.
@tiagofranco6029
@tiagofranco6029 Жыл бұрын
Our boy Hemmingway!
@noosphericaltarzan
@noosphericaltarzan Жыл бұрын
So.. I just bought an olympic bar and a couple of plates. Coming from kettlebell sport. Have you seen issues with people coming from here, even though the movement patterns are similar?
@crustybuns9344
@crustybuns9344 Жыл бұрын
Blahino coming after you now Clarence0, you remember the powder wars!
@lw454
@lw454 Жыл бұрын
Totally spot on. (proceeds to watch all of Clarence's squat videos to get amped up for another 1rm squat session)
@SuperDiddzz
@SuperDiddzz Жыл бұрын
Thank for education Clarence.
@Waruto
@Waruto Жыл бұрын
Putting Russell Orhii on blast 🤣
@krossxeye660
@krossxeye660 3 ай бұрын
I can't front rack at all. Every time I've worked it, I always either roll back off my shoulders into my windpipe or forward off the delts. It's stopped me from effectively training cleans at all, but I love the snatch. It's going to be really funny when one day I snatch 175 (90 percent of my C&J max)
@Lee-ic2yn
@Lee-ic2yn Жыл бұрын
I always do a strong lockout on the ohp even though I suck at weightlifting I don't see the point in "bodybuilder form" when it comes to overhead
@simondean5227
@simondean5227 Жыл бұрын
Interesting... I love front squats and have really wanted to try learning clean and jerk but I always end up doing muscle snatches lol
@AqueleGamer
@AqueleGamer 2 ай бұрын
I mostly powerlift and have for a few years now. Whenever I've tried to implement some weightlifting in my training I've felt that no matter how heavy I might get, my form just sucks ass. I got my clean & jerk to 80kg in around two months of training but I know I'm more so, in Bugenhagen terminology, "horsecocking" the weight than actually lifting with proper form, even if I lockout. Strayed away from it for a while now, but I know that bug behind my ear telling me to C&J 100kg is gonna come back some day, but I'll have to keep myself from being stupid and learn how to ACTUALLY weightlift with a lot of technique work.
@TheLol856
@TheLol856 Жыл бұрын
Clarence can you make a climbing video? With for example Magnus mitbo?
@therenegademaster6318
@therenegademaster6318 Жыл бұрын
Is that clip of blowhole from before or after he killed his dog ?
@nickzardiashvili624
@nickzardiashvili624 Жыл бұрын
Simply put, there's a huge skill component to weightlifting which often goes unnoticed since it involved a barbell and hence everyone assumes it's just strength based. If a powerlifter wants to transition to boxing, for example, they wouldn't be too surprised at the need to practice the punching technique for months and even years, but with a barbell, even though the situation is not that dissimilar, it seems counter-intuitive.
@micromashington
@micromashington Жыл бұрын
Clarence makes video. I watch. No hesitation.
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 Жыл бұрын
How about supertotal training with a powerlifting background?
@RustyNinja100
@RustyNinja100 Жыл бұрын
I generally do a little of everything. I do like 50% powerlifting 30% Cardio with 5-7 mile runs and around 20% of my workouts are similar to a crossfit Wod. I think I should move some weightlifting into that.
@GamesUndCoxDe
@GamesUndCoxDe Жыл бұрын
how do I transition from ow2 diva main to weightlifting?
@weightliftingandstrength
@weightliftingandstrength Жыл бұрын
Would like to see a hybrid weightlifting-powerlifting event: the three main powerlifting lifts, and then perhaps a push press and/or a front squat one rep max.
@jonnenne
@jonnenne Жыл бұрын
Powerlifters doing push press is just awful. I would definitely not want to see that.
@mikeyfergish
@mikeyfergish Жыл бұрын
Have very occasionally seen SuperTotal meets which is Snatch, C&J, S,B,D
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled Жыл бұрын
@@jonnenne why not? Genuine question. I have no clue what they are doing wrong.
@BigGulpsV2
@BigGulpsV2 Жыл бұрын
Damn didn't think Blaha would make an appearance LOL
@Salman.khan786
@Salman.khan786 Жыл бұрын
I guess I am somewhere in the middle then😅. I have a WL style squat, ATG, and I can Front squat pretty well, and clean a decent amount. But I also mainly do PL. So I have a strong deadlift compared to my other lifts. But the one exercise I. An never get is the snatch. I don’t have the flexibility for it. To have the bar over me without it falling forward is next to impossible for me.
@DaveFromVh1
@DaveFromVh1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Clar!!
@Senneeeuh
@Senneeeuh Жыл бұрын
One point you forgot to add is the increased chance of injury due to a good strength to bad technique ratio. I have seen many powerlifters get injured within just the first few months of weightlifting. It kind of goes along with the ego.
@aethylwulfeiii6502
@aethylwulfeiii6502 6 ай бұрын
Ronnie Coleman’s 800 lbs “squat” which did not even go to parallel.
@PatrickSmithPhD
@PatrickSmithPhD Жыл бұрын
Power lifters don't suck at weightlifting, because olympic weightlifting isn't the only kind of weightlifting out there. Sure, power lifters may suck at olympic weightlifting -- at first-- but they're still very good at weight lifting overall. Olympic weightlifting is very extremely technical, it's more than developing strength, as you said, it's an entire skillset and mode of moving. I do agree with everything you said overall but the way you phrase it sounds snobby and "gatekeepy" around the general term weightlifting.
@brendon2462
@brendon2462 Жыл бұрын
I get ya, but Olympic weightlifting is referred to as weight lifting. He's not using it as a general term that encompasses any type of weight training. He means just Olympic style lifts. Because that's what he is and does.
@kialkelly6591
@kialkelly6591 Жыл бұрын
Was that the aot coordinate i saw?
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