WHY Prophecy Fails: A New Series

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James Tabor

James Tabor

11 ай бұрын

This is the intro video to a new series I will begin this week--WHY Prophecy Fails--and I mean biblical prophecy. I want to explore the "why," not just the what and the when...digging beyond the usual descriptive presentation with a sharp analysis of what might be going on between readers and these ancient texts that become so easily with we call a "category" mistake.
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@hfranklin2009
@hfranklin2009 11 ай бұрын
I was a young minister in the mid-1960s when I was given a book by Herbert W. Armstrong that it was going end in 1975. I believe that was the title, “1975 in Prophecy.” It was a terrifying book and even then, as young and ignorant as I was, I could see how it could be used to scare people. It is a horrible theology.
@savannarae6386
@savannarae6386 3 ай бұрын
Dr. Tabor, I have been binge watching all of your content and have bought and read four of your books so far. Restoring Abrahamic Faith essentially encapsulates my spiritual journey over the past 20 years. I am finally deconstructing and have never learned more about Christianity than when I finally realized Yeshua wasn’t messiah and walked away. I appreciate your research and work SO SO much, thank you! I am looking forward to this series.
@stormlord1984
@stormlord1984 11 ай бұрын
You deserve all subscribers, Professor. I am sharing your channel with whomever I can.
@DrMARDOC
@DrMARDOC 11 ай бұрын
In 1972 Jehovah’s witnesses knocked on my door and told me the world was coming to an end. Soon! And asked me if I wanted to become a Jehovahs Witness. I told them I didn’t see the accident. The same story repeated itself in 1976.
@swinnburn
@swinnburn 11 ай бұрын
Nobody knows the day or hour-so it's always soon as in the next hour and on it goes day after day hour after hour...ever present until our last breath. The End.
@Giopowered
@Giopowered 10 ай бұрын
@@swinnburnlol
@athousandplateaus6598
@athousandplateaus6598 Ай бұрын
Thanks for providing so many resources for us on your website! That’s very kind.
@ckotty
@ckotty 11 ай бұрын
Honest, valiant and well informed lecturer 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽 Fascinating Many thanks
@gosnelljames
@gosnelljames 11 ай бұрын
I think it's explained in the Rambam that positive prophecies come true; negative prophecies can be repealed through teshuvah.
@26beegee
@26beegee 11 ай бұрын
This is going to be a great series! Being a former Christian and 70 years old I remember Armstrong, The Late Great Planet Earth and read all the Left Behind fantasy. Remember J. Vernon McGee? He was on the radio forever! Looking forward to learning the truth!
@kayowen8215
@kayowen8215 11 ай бұрын
Herbert Armstrong
@NickRothman1980
@NickRothman1980 11 ай бұрын
Excellent! Looking forward to the new series. 👍🏼
@zubairhollow
@zubairhollow 11 ай бұрын
im very tantalized, and excited
@victordelarosa4599
@victordelarosa4599 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the new series
@151prospect151
@151prospect151 11 ай бұрын
FYI Jehovah’s Witness growth has stopped since 2020. Love your content. 😊
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
Did not know that...thanks.
@simonclarke1383
@simonclarke1383 11 ай бұрын
If true.. covid probably had something to do with it
@gentilejoshsaved1646
@gentilejoshsaved1646 11 ай бұрын
Hello, What would you suggest for a Hebrew to English side by side translation of o.t.? Not embellished but as true to og as possible. Thanks Josh
@joshburgess1495
@joshburgess1495 11 ай бұрын
It’s better to just learn Hebrew yourself. Use all the resources you can find to study Hebrew grammar and root forms. There is a Great Courses series. Biblical Hebrew is not that hard. Learn the alef bet and vowels and practice reading. Then you will learn word association. No matter which group did the translation, they are going to downplay the controversial passages. I like the Harper Collins study Bible (I think it’s RSV) and James Tabor has his genesis translation. But please learn Biblical Hebrew and don’t rely solely on translations if you really enjoy studying the Hebrew Bible
@thumbstruck
@thumbstruck 11 ай бұрын
Keep an open mind, keep learning. It ain't over til it's over.
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 8 ай бұрын
Yep that's why we study prophecy. Physicalism isn't as aggressive as inspired by God with his fingerprints left over in the stars above. But our chaldean mind in physics and other sciences takes a radical environment is God and his fingertips is math & time approach to prophecy. A very extreme physical lawism and determinism that The answers are written in the stars above. Prescription is very different physically even though it literally sounds the same as the answers are written in the stars above
@thumbstruck
@thumbstruck 8 ай бұрын
@@dadsonworldwide3238 I appreciate the "God's fingerprint" comment. Good video on YT about our "reality" being a holograph. At least I can forcast when the biscuits will be done, if the oven works.
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 8 ай бұрын
it often helps to put things in perspective that way. Especially if you want to understand just long these debates have went on its embedded in etymology of our alphabetical exodus language model and linguistics. We've stripped it down white washed it into a very bland application that young mibds can't immediately recognize when reading history but I can assure you these same debated and dialogs are there. Prescription is very important just as interpretations these are very different things. To asure or for me 2 asure or to measure is very much the Assyrian God asure or Ashur an extreme embodiment of the physical lawism and its Prescription to the universe
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 8 ай бұрын
Chaldean mind would say the answers are written in the stars above just like I would but the prescription is very different from a classical American mind
@MrDale53
@MrDale53 11 ай бұрын
James Tabor I was involved for many years with Church Universal and Triumphant, run by Elizabeth Clare Prophet. Increasingly over the years she used Book of Revelations to predict various things including the nuclear war shelters she had her followers build. Best scholarly book on it is Brad Witzel's THE CHURCH UNIVERSAL AND TRIUMPHANT: Elizabeth Clare Prophet's Apocalyptic Movement. Also his later follow-up chapter in the book HOW PROPHECY LIVES (written after Elizabeth's daughter Erin Prophet detailed the "shelter cycle" and its apocalyptic predictions and actions in PROPHET'S DAUGHTER: MY LIFE WITH ELIZABETH CLARE PROPHET INSIDE THE CHURCH UNIVERSAL AND TRIUMPHANT. I was there (or Walter Cronkite would say, "You Were There"). It took a long time to work myself out of the psychological programming.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
I know her daughter, she is now an academic with a Ph.D. Know a bit about the group.
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
I got my tabor fix! :)))
@MarthaEllen88
@MarthaEllen88 2 ай бұрын
Guys, 10k views and only 650 likes? Please press like on videos you value. It helps the creator a lot with KZfaq's algorithms to then help reach more people. Thank you for all you do Prof Tabor 🙏
@ivtch51
@ivtch51 11 ай бұрын
Woow wee. Gee thx so much making so much for making your lifetime's work available. What a privilege to access it! I am very interested in scripture from the point of view that it is my Western cultural heritage and is one of the prime foundations of why and how we continue to live and see the world today. Today our world suffers from the rise of extreme religious fundamentalism and nationalist-totalitarian ideologies. This is a symptom of why many of us cannot live without the absolute certainty of purpose and meaning we believe we could find in scripture. At 72 I face this challenge every day. Thanks for asking the hard questions, James. I look forward to this new series.
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 11 ай бұрын
It all sounds very interesting, Dr. Tabor, hope I don't get depressed. lol Don't forget May 21st. Harold Camping as one of your Modern Day predictors! 🧚‍♀ I've been busy and have some catching up to do. 🧚‍♀
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
I don't think you will find things depressing...stay tuned. Learning and getting clarity on texts is always a good thing.
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 11 ай бұрын
Let's put it this way Dr. Tabor, if there's going to be no hope for the future in terms of God, or the resurrection, or eternity, I will find it unbearably sad, the disillusionment will be devastating. I want desperately to see those I've loved and lost again, and even though you may not be a believer, you must secretly wish for it too. Even though I tend to be fantasy orientated I still seek the truth wherever it may lead, but I can't bear the thought of it leading nowhere, to just a dead end. There has to be more. There just has to be.🧚‍♀I do very much enjoy your lectures. You have a very soothing and methodical approach which is one of the reasons I am drawn to your channel. Thank you for that:-) @@JamesTaborVideos
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
Moving the goal post.. LoL You got this correct. History is written in pencil. In so much as we decern what happened 2000 years ago.. - god is now 2000 thousand years ahead right now, writing history.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
Nice image...the pencil thing...also written by the ongoing present, with revised views of things, at least when it comes to this topic.
@Giopowered
@Giopowered 10 ай бұрын
Goal post been moving since 2,000 years ago.
@juliemathews5115
@juliemathews5115 11 ай бұрын
It was never the wolf laying down with the lamb. It was always the lion and the lamb!!!!! Your thumbnail picture is wrong
@_S0me__0ne
@_S0me__0ne 11 ай бұрын
Or, it was intentional.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
Check Isaiah 11...
@user-tl4qg2gh1l
@user-tl4qg2gh1l 11 ай бұрын
Yep it's the strangest thing and an example of the Mandela effect
@juliemathews5115
@juliemathews5115 11 ай бұрын
A lot of other passages have changed from what they were. Now there are nursing father's with breasts full milk! In earth instead of on earth. Heaven instead of heavens. There is words like matrix, couch, highway, muffler, bottles instead of wine skins. So on. This is in the king James version and others also. My bible that I've had since I was 11 years old has changed!
@user-tl4qg2gh1l
@user-tl4qg2gh1l 11 ай бұрын
@@juliemathews5115 another one is pride goes before a fall, when it's actually pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall
@RobertTaylor
@RobertTaylor 11 ай бұрын
Many great resources. I also can’t stop thinking of the Pre-Christian version of Revelation since I heard you mention it in another presentation.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 11 ай бұрын
🙏💚🧡agree! We stand James Tabor to guide Us through those early text figuring What exactly Jesus learned studying at the Temple and in other circles with James the baptizer
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
I will be covering that in the series...
@agreenenergygroup
@agreenenergygroup 10 ай бұрын
I know book of enoch I is said to be for the last days. Yeshuah quoted from it, in the trinitarian translation.
@jstanc18
@jstanc18 11 ай бұрын
Im so excited to see this series and show it to my friends and family
@monstersasquatch1515
@monstersasquatch1515 11 ай бұрын
You, sir, are prolific. It feels like open sourcing your life long research into these wonderful subjects. Thank you. ...i predict, this time, we can't be wrong !! 🤣
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
@23:00 It's common knowledge that striving and working toward the goal is what produces the most satisfaction. Once someone attains the goal,.. they are shortly satiated and bored again. But hear me out, this time we are sitting pretty. A good thing we got going. Plus we have a job to do.
@mazz3736
@mazz3736 11 ай бұрын
Woah!! 😮
@IamValentina66
@IamValentina66 11 ай бұрын
I keep hearing about Ezekiel 38. I would like to hear what you say about it.
@nadzach
@nadzach 10 ай бұрын
I've never been interested in escatology, but now might be a good time to pay attention. I hold to scripture. It's planted in my memory, which I suppose might fail. But I recall something like "i am God. I change not." (?) I've no intrest in any church founded by a false prophet or anything with "reformed" in its name. You can't reform God. Circumstances kept me isolated and studying secretly. There were a few experiences to confirm faith, but those who simply believe are to be admired. I am 74. I've never had any mental health issues. I found the way of life and i followed it. I entered the kingdom of God through the grace of salvation. I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. I am holy because he is holy (and he instructed us, "be ye holy.") After this, there is still the basic instruction, "seek my face." Maybe its because I had learned how to breath in the being of God, I dont know. Dia-psalms. Through spiritual prayer. Maybe because I wanted to listen at his feet. I had learned the lessons/quickenings of heart, soul and mind. Lessons of wisdom and lessons of authority, power, mighty works. When I started John, it was different. I asked...just breating words into the air. "But what is the quickening and what is the power." I knew what יענה means, but not in a practical sense. Then there was a thunder storm. A loud crack that shook the house. I went to the window. Lightning flashed in the east, reflected off the west and back. I waited for the thunder. And then the answer came. It was breathed into my ear, but clear. (This must be what is meant by the "still" small voice.) I can tell you what he said. I sitting here wondering if someone will speak scornfully. The first three parts of the journey are in the synoptic gospels. They will get your boat across the sea in a storm. and fill your room with light. Your circle of love will expand to embrace a stranger. The king of kings is still drawing you with cords of love. The double portion is spirit and blood. We are 3 parts and a union of the whole. When the Most High speaks, I need to look up the words, because (in a way) he speaks in mysteries. So this is his answer and the meaning. "This is the quickening of the blood and the power/ability to pass on." I didnt want to die, so I looked up the words. "This is the netzach of netzach and the netzach to netzach." And it was true. It is about new wine and the ability to hear. You might not see God, but you can hear him. And he can come to you or take you into a vision. There is another dimension and it must be elsewhere because time does not pass. The vision may take a while, but when you come back, the speaker is still in mid-sentence. The tabernacle, heavens, mountains, trees, animal kingdoms--have the pattern of all things. The way of life passes through a holy place, holy places, the holy of holies and turns upward to the secret place behind the wings. Heaven, heavens, heaven of heavens most high heaven. Mark(the distant beginning where the border is) mat-thew, מאת or μετ-θεου as in "the word was with God"; luke, לוק or the latter portion of faith; and john, יענה the beginning of the response of God. And then you return to the position of servant of all. ~The End ~
@elizabeth_777
@elizabeth_777 11 ай бұрын
Your wife is a very lucky woman Dr. Tabor….You have a fantastic mind, a very wonderful attribute.🤓💜Thank you for sharing this with us.🤗🤓
@bonerici
@bonerici 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait
@endtimeawakening5557
@endtimeawakening5557 11 ай бұрын
END OF THE AGE? What does this expression mean, exactly? I can only share what I currently understand it to mean. I believe that the "age" being spoken of here is an era or time period in the individual's life where they're walking in spiritual darkness. It's basically the time that the individual is blinded to the Truth. When that age ends, you come into the Light of Christ, which is coming into the Truth. Ephesians 5:14 - "Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead [Spiritual sleep], and Christ shall give thee light."
@fatbottombracket
@fatbottombracket 11 ай бұрын
Awesome Dr Tabor and look forward to the Charles Taze Russel info! JWs have been in a significant decline for several years now because their prophecies are bogus. Your videos help with that decline 😊
@JenniferVaughnEstrada
@JenniferVaughnEstrada 11 ай бұрын
I was also raised in the Campbellite Movement. Despite it being unofficially amillennial, I was exposed to a lot of premillennial and postmillennial thinking. Lots of arguments. 😂
@stumpy31952
@stumpy31952 10 ай бұрын
James this is Andy Snow that's my dad in the picture, we had the unfortunate privilege to be robbed by Herbie .W Armstrong and I am 48 and am still reeling from all the fear that was pumped into me since I was 4, 1978-79, I took some LSD in 94 and realized a whole new world and fell hard,, just like so much that is happening in Judaism, which I respect for the most part and have love for Israel, Jerusalem, and BiBi Netanyahu, and have been watching you for some time Stephen Anderson Snow is my full name, thank you so much, for some clarity on what I need to do with what time I have..Selah...anyways yeah that was the end of my church days with the shattering of the brainwashing during my 1st trip, the church was shattering....anyways..I have been struggling with Jesus or Yeshua or Yehoshua or Jesse, David's father as I have been watching your series, on the anointed one's...I do believe in a Creator, was it you and your son/s who located the crossing and other archeological wonders? anyways man, what do I do? I am part Jewish, and that church devastated me and our family...and it's taken me 30 years to get close to God again and to start to understand and. gain some wisdom....anyways so many of the young men who I was raised with in the Armstrong BS are dead, so scared out of our minds many of us turned to drugs and alcohol, I am a walking miracle or whatever cause I should be dead so many times over, even in a night I'd do what would kill a room full of "normal" people....and survived 2 attempted murders caught on Maui. during corona, that the 50.2 billion dollars Maui alone pulled in, and they threw me out of the hospital and into the streets and then tried to make me the bad guy, I'm a sinner like the rest of the world but I did my best to help those who had less than I, no justice on 2 cases with camera's and witnesses and admitted to doing it!!! So yeah, it'd be nice to have a righteous and justice serving King, YHWH, if he's not some alien or what...man...I'm only human but oy vey I have to say I felt no pity for Maui burning, not a single attorney would touch this, the FBI hung up on me, all the groups and people who broke their oaths, and detective Mark Schmidt came out on Maui News and said how fully corrupt our justice system is and it makes me sick to have to be so broken and still in constant pain....man I really appreciate your studies and work and well thanks for sharing wisdom and understanding, there's only a few Rabbi's I can stand but I just don't know which way to turn besides trying to be a better man, every day...brutal but brought me around and I asked Him for justice and some of Maui burned, some say it's the new HAARP they installed since I was there also between 2003-09 and wrecked my spine when the police chiefs step son killed my fried Yeshua, who the feds there and the police did NOTHING! at least they finally got so sick of filth and corruption they for the 1st time elected a non-local commissioner or chief anyways...then 9 months later I lifted well over a ton according to the Federal Park report and just wrecked the rest of my spine, when Yeshi was killed I drank for the first time since I got sober after 5 years of heroin therapy, shite, and broke my neck but refused pain meds and Drs for 13 years cause of my 5 years of rebellion against God and all the lies and money hungry, power hungry, diluted arse's who scared me to kingdom come...ok sorry but we need something to work cause the corruption seems to be all to much and widespread....top to bottom...so sad, I just wanted to love and be loved, have a family, and 100ish women and no wife...no kids...just shame for all my stupidity, although I have not stopped searching even in my addiction I just wanted to enjoy life, and everything but my breath was taken or broken or stolen by people I showed kindness too and tried to help....I feel like God is my only friend sometimes....so thank you for addressing this Why Prophecy fails....ok...God Bless, I've been subscribed for some time now and just turned on the bell, I live on 10grand a year but was blessed this month with a platinum nugget and specimen or ore that kinda made me happy cause it weighs so much...anyways, I'm just coming through the traumatic brain injuries sustained on Maui...peace Brother
@nadzach
@nadzach 10 ай бұрын
I still need to read your whole comment. But I saw the part about wanting to love and be loved. I've always thought that was everyone's basic motivation. And I understand "Jesus is my only friend." But there are bad people and...bad things happen to good people. It is humbling. But what I wanted to say is that my son studied briefly under Clyde Snow. That's your dad? He casts a big shadow. I think he was quite old, too. Maybe that's your granddad. 😊
@MarthaEllen88
@MarthaEllen88 2 ай бұрын
If you want to contact Dr Tabor, try via his website/email. I don't think he tends to read the comments, too much for him to cope with. Wishing you well and better things ahead, peace and healing.
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 11 ай бұрын
Actually I do know when The End will arrive but I am keeping it to myself. Meanwhile I look forward to this course. Thank you. 👍
@jannetranberg7186
@jannetranberg7186 8 ай бұрын
Well actually, you cant know when the end comes, and how it comes. Nobody can know the future.
@kencreten7308
@kencreten7308 11 ай бұрын
Very cool. Thanks.
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
@27:30 God has all the human pitfalls as we all do, except he has big power over powerful establishments. I'm saying he's like us and suspectable to what cloud's and incumbents us. He's got some big shoes to fill. If he doesn't want to he won't.
@glennshrom5801
@glennshrom5801 11 ай бұрын
There we go. At about the middle of minute fourteen (between 13:00 and 14:00), James Tabor says that it is concerning predictions about the end times. Okay. But the title says it is about Bible prophecy, much of which has not failed at all but quite the opposite.
@twitherspoon8954
@twitherspoon8954 11 ай бұрын
_"But the title says it is about Bible prophecy, much of which has not failed at all but quite the opposite."_ Name one.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
I will clarify that Glenn...as we go along. So stay tuned.
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
@@twitherspoon8954 Delusion
@rodrigoduarte1122
@rodrigoduarte1122 11 ай бұрын
@James Tabor it was been a wonderful knlowged since i meet you on Derek channel and joined yours ,for me the prophecies are historical prophecies like about when " jesus" tell about the temple destructuon he hit it but falls when say the judgment would come in that moment.
@glennshrom5801
@glennshrom5801 11 ай бұрын
I strongly recommend Gladd and Beale's book Hidden but Now Revealed, for a look at fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
@neclark08
@neclark08 11 ай бұрын
...why that particular book..?
@evropej
@evropej 11 ай бұрын
Not one prophecy has failed not once.
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
Bwahahaha
@evropej
@evropej 11 ай бұрын
@@ringo3697 the wicked will not understand! I had a dog and his name was bingo!
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
@@evropej Your imagination is not evidence
@evropej
@evropej 11 ай бұрын
@@ringo3697 Please do tell me from your imagination if anything exists in your reality or is it truly magical in explaining a real world run by math and physics plus the evil will of money and sex which you think you are saved in by what you believe to be magical and does not exist for you! You aint getting none of it if you know what I mean.
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 11 ай бұрын
​@@evropejyeah, I know that you mean you see patterns where none exist
@blakejames9952
@blakejames9952 11 ай бұрын
I’m interested to hear more of this pre-Christian book of Revelation or apocalyptic book. Does anyone know the title.?
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
See my blog, search for it by name, it is there, two posts, but I will cover it in the series.
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
We have a do over Melchizedek is going to deliver
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
Promises promises
@integrationalpolytheism
@integrationalpolytheism 11 ай бұрын
16:55 i tried to get Dan McClellan to address this in a q&a he did, but he declined. Id like him to address this because he asserts very flatly that Revelation is a vhristian document, not jewish.
@theonetruetim
@theonetruetim 11 ай бұрын
Consider me, tantalized.
@EXISTENCE1891
@EXISTENCE1891 11 ай бұрын
The title is misleading. It should be "When speculation fails"
@PC-vg8vn
@PC-vg8vn 11 ай бұрын
Daniel was told Messiah would come in the spring of AD33. Funny that. As for the end times, Jesus made it clear His return would have no signs - it would be like a thief in the night, which is of course unexpected. He exhorted people to be continually ready precisely because they did not know the time of His arrival. Anyone trying to work out when that will happen are simply ignoring His words.
@juliemathews5115
@juliemathews5115 11 ай бұрын
He also said you would know when the time is near. Read the book of Daniel. Have you read revelations? No one knows the day pr hour but you will know by what is taking place on the earth
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
We will be getting into that in some detail, stay tuned.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
Yes, Daniel 9 is a key text we will cover in detail...
@Giopowered
@Giopowered 11 ай бұрын
@@juliemathews5115apparently Jesus claims that even he himself doesn’t know the time
@KendraAndTheLaw
@KendraAndTheLaw 11 ай бұрын
Request: talk about the Great Pyramid and how it relates. I know, I know, you won't travel down those interesting trails. I understand.
@PandamaticBreakcore
@PandamaticBreakcore 11 ай бұрын
Because it's just some shit someone made up? I mean how hard is that
@johnvanmanen3149
@johnvanmanen3149 11 ай бұрын
Nice, but not all of prophecies fails, i can see the cloud the whole world can see through a see of glass that is in front of my throne, now lets see if anyone figures out the white horse to ride on on the internet and post a video of it.... then who knows what might happen..
@glennshrom5801
@glennshrom5801 11 ай бұрын
It is very true, in my opinion, that most Evangelicals overplay the messianic prophecies that Jesus has fulfilled, and underplay the messianic prophecies that Jesus has yet to fulfill at the second coming.
@QueenQaffir
@QueenQaffir 11 ай бұрын
Well probably bc He hasn’t come back yet! Like what?!
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 11 ай бұрын
@@QueenQaffir Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. 2000 years later tick tock…
@QueenQaffir
@QueenQaffir 11 ай бұрын
@@annascott3542 didn’t realize God was to work on YOUR clock 🙄
@Veegan4theanimals
@Veegan4theanimals 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy your videos, specially about earth shape etc, very interesting. Can you speak more in details about whether we will evolve to live garden of eden on earth someday? Im clueless, i grew up Christian and now im have been involved in the vedic philosophy and jyotish ( a limb of the vedas) vedic astrology. Thank you 💚
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 11 ай бұрын
According to JEWISH expectation and Scripture, the Messiah is supposed to do the following: Liberate Israel Restore the Throne of David Rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem Subject all other nations to Israel Bring world peace Cause the whole world to worship Yahweh Things the Messiah is NOT prophesied or expected to do: Be born of a virgin Die Come back to life Be a redeemer of sins Be God. Any time the Gospels claim that Jesus fulfilled a prophecy, look to see what OT scripture is being referenced (If possible. in some cases the references can be hard to locate and sometimes they appear to cite prophecies that don't even exist, at least not in the canonical Hebrew Bible). When you find the OT passage, read it in its original context. In every case (not most cases, EVERY case) you will see that the verse being cited as a prophecy has nothing to do with the Messiah in its OT context and is quite often not even a prophecy. They just snip verses out of all context and say it mean something it doesn't mean. This was seen as legitimate at the time. It's called Pesher. Some people thought that there were hidden, secondary meanings underneath the plain text of scripture which could be perceived under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. They looked for key words like "son." Anything that had God calling somebody "son" had to be about Jesus, they figured, even if the original context makes it plain that it's talking about Israel. To give a simple example, when Moses and the Israelites leave Egypt, the Hebrew Bible says, "you are my son, Israel, and out of Egypt I have called my son." Matthew quotes this as a prophecy about Jesus. A more significant example is the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53, who is repeatedly identified as Israel ("You are my servant, Israel") and whose travails are being referred to in the past tense, yet Mark made this into a pesher on the crucifixion. In context, it's not about the Messiah and it's not a prediction of the future, it's a poetic description of the past ordeals of Israel. Christianity changed the definition of "Messiah" drastically. The Jewish Messiah is a human king, not an incarnation of Yahweh. There is absolutely nothing in Jewish expectation or Hebrew scripture about the Messiah needing to die or be resurrected. The Messiah cannot atone for anyone else's sins. The idea of Original Sin or that people need to be "saved" is not Jewish and not in the Old Testament. In Judaism everybody. Jew and Gentile alike, is responsible for their own sins. Christians had to pivot to explain a dead Messiah and their interpretation of the crucifixion as a sacrifice is post hoc, not something which had previously been part of Jewish expectation.
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
You are correct, sir
@dwaynewojtysiak2815
@dwaynewojtysiak2815 11 ай бұрын
That's hilarious you tubers have the same problem you do . As it's your take and you think you know so how dare you question me, don't you know who I am .😂 I know it's hard to comprehend all that money and time to be mistaken but it seems to be the them of the day I mean who has balls enough to think everyone is mistaken but I nailed it . Good luck Mr ego.
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
Prophecy fails because it's false prophecy
@abdar-rahman6965
@abdar-rahman6965 11 ай бұрын
Before talking about Prophecies of Bible; one must dig deep and analyze honestly that, is any Book of Old and New Testament Original Genuine Scripture; or those are books of folkloric tales? Truth is: Original Torah was lost after the death of Prophet Harun, and Aramaic Injeel of Jesus became extinct after Jesus. Mark Matthew Luke and John are anonymous books written by some religiously motivated Evangelists in order to advance their mutually contradictory hearsay tales. *Not a single book in Old and New Testament is Original Scripture; so what Prophecies?*
@edwinhageman9377
@edwinhageman9377 11 ай бұрын
Could it be that it has already happened?
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 11 ай бұрын
Any "prophecy" in the Bible that came true was written after the fact,
@QueenQaffir
@QueenQaffir 11 ай бұрын
@@Ken_Scaletta🙄
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 11 ай бұрын
@@QueenQaffir What are you rolling your eyes at? Take a class on Bible scholarship. We KNOW that lots of "prophecies" were written after the fact. It is a defining characteristic of Jewish apocalypse. Apocalypses were written during times of crisis and always present the crisis as having been predicted. This is often done by pseudegraphically attaching new text onto older texts already seen as having some authority. Apocalypses then go on to say the crisis is all part of some bigger plan and that all the good stuff, the Messianic age, is right around the corner. The classic example of this is the book of Daniel, which pretends to have been written during the Babylonian exile, but was actually mostly composed during the Maccabean revolt. It is pseudepigraphically tacked onto an earlier work of folktales (still present in the first six chapters) You can tell within a three year period when Daniel was written because that's the point at which it starts trying to make genuine predictions and gets them all wrong. Even Jesus was wrong. He said the world would end within his own generation. Whiff.
@geoattoronto
@geoattoronto 11 ай бұрын
If Jesus ascended to the Kingdom of God and opened up the possibility of eternal life, then he has accomplished his purpose.
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 11 ай бұрын
@@geoattoronto The Kingdom of God is supposed to be on Earth.
@stumpy31952
@stumpy31952 10 ай бұрын
One of my cousins Noah Seth Deal still goes, and it's where he met his wife, but his brother Aaron Matthew deal became a hardcore alcoholic, and I lost my phone for a week and he had reached out to me, so he wasn't able to safely ease his pain and his old best friend from high school gave him that fentanyl and didn't call the medics for 30 mins so we just lost my little buddy and it all stems from the dread and fear or God's wrath and prophecy; according to the Hopi, prophecy is a warning to change our ways...but I have heard so much and it seems like fear mongering made up by the Italian/Roman part of my blood, NE of Naples/Napoli in a little town Benevento, strangely enough they have a soccer team Calcio red and yellow shield with the wicked witch from Wizard of Oz....??? After all the witch hunts it seems strange, but pagan, or pegani meaning hill people, like superstitious hillbilly's
@joshuawilliams9276
@joshuawilliams9276 11 ай бұрын
Controlled op
@QueenQaffir
@QueenQaffir 11 ай бұрын
All the souls ur gonna have to answer for Mr Tabor. I do not wish to be u.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if you watched the video through, as I think you are misunderstanding what I am doing here...stay tuned...
@kenmcclellan
@kenmcclellan 11 ай бұрын
Mostly "Prophecy fails" because we are impatient. Religion is a collection of race memories with a vague promise in Ecclesiastes 1:9 that history repeats. We ought to pay attention to the prophecies, if only because the Maya saw huge changes between the Great Conjunction of 2020 they called "the New Ahau" and the one in 2040. See the Dresden Codex. The Corn Maiden hangs herself.
@victorrichardson3027
@victorrichardson3027 11 ай бұрын
For the full preterist, no prophecy ever failed nor can ever fail!
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
The preterist view will be important to cover...it is one perennial response to the phenomenon I will be examining...
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
They are kooks. Easy to demonstrate.
@Richard_James_Schueler
@Richard_James_Schueler 11 ай бұрын
Tabors son WAS a druggie
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 8 ай бұрын
Physical vagueness has to be retained its why you study prophecy in first place to develop a straussian mind. Inspired by God fingerprint left in.the universe is far less aggressive as Modern physics God is the universe, his fingertips is Time & math chaldean mind approaches in rationalizing world around us prophecies and predictions. Only logical position on prophecy i can accept is ( Do we make or fullfill prophecy ) Its not a question of has predictions in the past correctly occurred in the future because its so effective and well proven that we built an entire scientific practice on it lol But making hard line physical predictions will always take time to test and measure the results and rarly ever is immediately recognized or accepted. Now 2nd coming makes the grand theory that all will know beyond any doubt. But only the father knows when so its Always open until it isn't anymore
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 8 ай бұрын
Of course we all know what 1900s structuralism has cause in America and the west by adopting and teaching such radical environment is God/ evil etc Extreme determinism & physical lawisms Vulnerable chaldean minds want to Measure or me - Asure. Assyrian god ashur or assure.lol Sir bacon scientific formula Measure value then dictate meaning re imagine interpretations. Where as we today definitely study prophecy without that hard radical approach or extreme determinism. Word / info (meaning) is most precise when strengthened by measurements that dictates value The classical American mind and formula is the only epistemology of self that seperates work and play as a by product we call secualar. It can't be structurally caged
@elizabeth_777
@elizabeth_777 11 ай бұрын
Provocative Dr. Tabor 🤓I think it always seems to come true in my personal universe 🤓Thank you! I think it’s the failure of our expectations rather than the prophecies themselves 🤓You’re obviously more knowledgeable, so this should be interesting.😁
@yashadel_TheFirstAdam
@yashadel_TheFirstAdam 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if you will read this comment. I further wonder if you know what it means.
@kingsleynkrumah4762
@kingsleynkrumah4762 11 ай бұрын
Im convinced God will Not lie and every Word proceeded out of His Mouth Shall Be fulfilled in His appointed time. But the Problem is the interpretations given to these prophesies. In my view, I perceive Only time can prove Biblical prophesies not men’s interpretation. Interpretations are not the Word of God. Thy Will Be done Lord. Glory@head
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 11 ай бұрын
If there's room for interpretation, why's God so bad at writing clearly?
@michaelsaxton7966
@michaelsaxton7966 11 ай бұрын
That a typewriter I see......and a printer? Stay classy Dr. Tabor.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
That is an Olivetti! I love it and use it still for personal notes...
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 11 ай бұрын
It’s the lion not the wolf!! Grrrr 😉
@johnrichardson7629
@johnrichardson7629 11 ай бұрын
Lemme guess: Because prophesies are the ravings of people with strong opinions disconnect from reality. Am I getting warm?
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
Do christians actually believe God walks the earth literally? Jesus too? If so.. then they are human and have day to day stuff and baggage and dreams..
@Eklegomai
@Eklegomai 8 ай бұрын
Biblical prophecy doesn’t fail 😂. People misinterpreted that’s all.
@lemnisgate8809
@lemnisgate8809 11 ай бұрын
Not one biblical prophecy failed what has failed is your understanding.
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
Hang in there...my approach is to take a broad view of how these have been understood through the ages...but the conclusion will come at the end of the series...
@ringo3697
@ringo3697 11 ай бұрын
Bwahahahaha
@glennshrom5801
@glennshrom5801 11 ай бұрын
Were Jesus and his followers wrong about the end of the age when they prophesied that the Lord would be very patient and longsuffering, that all people groups would have to hear the Gospel first, that things would go on as they always had and people would say that the second coming was a false hope because things have gone on the way they always have for so long? No, they were quite right about all that. The fact that the end hasn't taken place yet and we are 2,000 years through this age, proves it!
@neclark08
@neclark08 11 ай бұрын
...so you @glennshrom5801 are calling Juh-HEEZ-Zuss a LIAR for the 15+ times in the NT that he's quoted- or referenced telling both sermon attendees & his Apostles (particularly the "Most-Beloved" -- his biological brother, James) that some/many of them would STILL BE ALIVE when He accompanied 'Big Daddy' to usher-in the 'Next Age' ? Matt 10:23, 16:27-28, 23:36 & 24:33-34; Mark 1:15, 9:1, & 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:22 & 21:32 & John 12: 31-35, 14:2-4(*), 14:28,29, 16:7, 16:16-19 & 21:20-24. But THANKS for playing...
@davidmcclellan1920
@davidmcclellan1920 8 ай бұрын
Biblical prophecy isn't real prophecy..
@quetzelmichaels1637
@quetzelmichaels1637 11 ай бұрын
Bible prophecy hasn't failed. More Israelites followed Moses than the population of Egypt at the time. The flood story of Noah comes from the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh. The books about Jesus belong in the same category - Jonah swallowed by a whale. Warning of the impending Day of the Lord, he is swallowed by the Beast out of the Sea and spewed out upon the shore as the Beast out of the Earth while the sun beats down upon his head and a burning east wind begins the Way of the Lord in the Desert. There is a baptism with which I must be baptized, and how great is my anguish until it is accomplished! "I have come to set the earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing! (Luk 12:49-50 NABO) "For by my wrath a fire is enkindled that shall rage to the depths of the Abyss, Consuming the earth with its yield, and licking with flames the roots of the mountains. (Deu 32:22 NABO) Down I went to the roots of the mountains; the bars of the Abyss were closing behind me forever (Jon 2:7 NABO) 'Who will go down into the Abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead) (Rom 10:7 NABO) Light and vegetation are created before the sun and moon. This isn't your creation story. It is the new heaven and new earth. The Sun and Moon are David and his Bride. The Man and Woman are Adam, the Christ, and his Bride. Perhaps you are the vegetation. David, Yahweh, is the Light and Christ is the Lamp. On the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall, The light of the moon will be like that of the sun and the light of the sun will be seven times greater (like the light of seven days). On the day the LORD binds up the wounds of his people, he will heal the bruises left by his blows. (Isa 30:25-26 NABO) Your creation story is when, in the beginning, Adam found you in a wasteland, empty, and void of understanding, having become corrupted by sin, and shielded you as the apple of his eye. Adam tilled the soil and created the Garden of Eden, the promised land, a heavenly home, the new heaven and new earth, and then settled east of Eden and has tilled and cultivated the earth ever since. Little green angels will be arriving soon. David, the Morning Star or, Shining One (Snake?), is Yahweh. The Son of David hands the kingdom over to his God and Father. No one comes to the Father except through me. (Joh 14:6 NABO) Blessed is the kingdom of our Father David that is to come! (Mar 11:10 NABO) David, their king, whom I will raise up for them. (Jer 30:9 NABO) -------------------------------------------------------- Esau, the firstborn, lives by the sword (sacrifice) and serves his brother, Jacob, who was born gripping (striking at) his heel. Isaac blessed Esau saying: Ah, far from the fertile earth shall be your dwelling; far from the dew of the heavens above! (Gen 27:39 NABO) you will not always have me (Mat 26:11 NABO) I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB) My kingdom does not belong to this world. (Joh 18:36 NABO) Where I am going you cannot come. (Joh 8:21 NABO) Then I took my staff "Refuge" and snapped it asunder, breaking off the covenant which I had made with all peoples (Noahic covenant) (Zec 11:10 NABO) Then I snapped asunder my other staff, "Heritage" (Deu 32:8) breaking off my brotherhood with Judah and Israel. (Zec 11:14 NABO) the one who ascended far above all the heavens themselves (Eph 4:10 NABO) never to return to corruption (Act 13:34 NABO) "By your sword (sacrifice) you shall live, and your brother you shall serve; But when you become restive (weak; faint; infirm; a worm; man of suffering; restless; wanderer in the desert; way of the Lord in the desert), you shall throw off his yoke from your neck." (Gen 27:40 NABO) Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau! (Gen 32:12 NABO) Esau ran to meet him, embraced him, and flinging himself on his neck, kissed him as he wept. (Gen 33:4 NABO) Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for yourselves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light. (Mat 11:29-30 NABO)
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 11 ай бұрын
None of these characters actually existed. There is no such thing as genuine predictive prophecy.
@gileadtenn
@gileadtenn 11 ай бұрын
​@Ken_Scaletta lol you have cartoons on your channel... no wonder
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 11 ай бұрын
​@@gileadtenn Those cartoons were made by my autistic son when he was little. I've never uploaded anything personally.
@gileadtenn
@gileadtenn 11 ай бұрын
@@Ken_Scaletta my apologies
@gileadtenn
@gileadtenn 11 ай бұрын
@@Ken_Scaletta nevertheless, "those" characters did exist. Just because you don't believe scripture doesn't make it any less true 💯
@endtimeawakening5557
@endtimeawakening5557 11 ай бұрын
The Bible is primarily a spiritual book that's often taken literally. Christ came to "remove the curtain" that prevents man from "seeing" that he's a spirit being abiding in a temporal flesh tabernacle. All of us were raised in the modern era that requires tangible proof before belief can be established. Christ told the Pharisee that we couldn't physically see the Kingdom of God, because it already abides within man, in the Spirit within man, the part of us that can't be measured or weighed. This is why so many have trouble believing the message of Christ, because you can't measure it or weigh it. It's called "Faith" for a reason, and some 250,000 find out the Truth every single day.
@kayowen8215
@kayowen8215 11 ай бұрын
Its lion lays down with lamb not fox so this teaching is wrong
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
Try reading Isaiah 11...
@kayowen8215
@kayowen8215 11 ай бұрын
@@JamesTaborVideos i ment lion and lamb not fox i ment wolf and lamb is wrong
@JamesTaborVideos
@JamesTaborVideos 11 ай бұрын
@@kayowen8215 No problem, I got what you meant...but read Isaiah 11:6-9. Lion and lamb is quoted all the time but see the text: Is. 11:6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid, and the calf and the lion and the fatling together, and a little child shall lead them. 7 The cow and the bear shall feed; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 The sucking child shall play over the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den. 9 They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea.
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh 11 ай бұрын
God is a procrastinator He's painted himself into a corner Pride is scary to lose when it is all that is left. Plain psychology. He really wants to do the right thing and will, not just because he has to.. he has family problems to deal with, much more. IDK
@KendraAndTheLaw
@KendraAndTheLaw 11 ай бұрын
MindFuqq
@HEXCRYPTO-xy3rt
@HEXCRYPTO-xy3rt 11 ай бұрын
Tabors son is in Sheol with the devil
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 11 ай бұрын
Prove it
@williambunter3311
@williambunter3311 11 ай бұрын
I made a comment on one of your other videos in which i said that I believed you were sincere but confused. I am retracting my statement. You are indeed confused, but you are NOT sincere.
@bonerici
@bonerici 11 ай бұрын
I think you are missing the point of tabors lectures. He doesn't tell you to believe this or believe that. It's perfectly OK to think tabor is misguided. What he is doing is leading a discussion into the nature of 1st century Judaism. You don't have to think tabor is right or wrong to follow his lectures and to think he's right or wrong is to miss the point. He's trying to teach us to learn more about this period of time.
@williambunter3311
@williambunter3311 11 ай бұрын
@@bonerici And you're the obedient little student looking for brownie points?
@bonerici
@bonerici 11 ай бұрын
@@williambunter3311 tabor never reads these comments. I think he has a guy that uploads stuff for him
@lemnisgate8809
@lemnisgate8809 11 ай бұрын
@@bonericithat’s pure bs he’s obviously biased and his this leads those who listen to him into his same mind of ignorance.
@williambunter3311
@williambunter3311 11 ай бұрын
@@bonerici Don't believe you
@Richard_James_Schueler
@Richard_James_Schueler 11 ай бұрын
All you do is promote your silly books … come on man … get real
@Marge719
@Marge719 11 ай бұрын
EVERY SINGLE Bible Prophecy has been fulfilled. And those that have not been fulfilled, are yet to come.
@cullenjohnson0
@cullenjohnson0 11 ай бұрын
So not every single Bible prophecy has been fulfilled.
@britaom3299
@britaom3299 11 ай бұрын
Is Isaiah 7:14 on this list of yours?
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for making his point even stronger Marge. This same old song and dance routine inspired some of the writers of the New Testament to make changes in their beliefs. Your opinion should not be taken lightly nor disrespected. This is very important and your expression of it makes clear what we see today. The Jehovah's Witnesses are a good example too. Every time they predict something that does not happen when they say it will happen, an adjustment to their understanding is made and they declare that it will happen in the future. It is only natural to kick the can further down the road rather than admit that something someone had devoted their life to was wrong.
@davekearney1944
@davekearney1944 11 ай бұрын
Every single prophecy prophesied by every prophet that ever existed has come true, or has yet to come true.
@John-cf5im
@John-cf5im 11 ай бұрын
No prophecy has been verified
@rhb30001
@rhb30001 11 ай бұрын
Always wrong 👎🏼
@jeffreyerwin3665
@jeffreyerwin3665 11 ай бұрын
'In psecutione. extrema S.R.E. sedebit." That is prediction number 112 of Fr. Arnold Wion's list of 113 papal predictions, and it applies to Pope Francis. It calls for a human caused disaster affecting the Catholic Church during the reign of Pope Francis which will terminate his papacy. It will be so severe as to prevent the election of a new pope. "He will reign in the final persecution. of the Holy Roman Church."
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 11 ай бұрын
Bit vague though, isn't it? What sort of disaster, and why does it affect the papacy that way, and what ties it to Francis specifically?
@jeffreyerwin3665
@jeffreyerwin3665 11 ай бұрын
@@williamchamberlain2263 I have to admit that your questions are valid. In 1595 Fr. Arnold Wion published a list of 113 predictions for popes of the Catholic Church, and he tied the first 74 of these to specific popes. Therefore, we know which prediction applies to any specific pope from 1590 onwards. Pope Francis is number 112 on Wion's list, so we know for sure that the phrase, "In psecutione. extrema S.R.E. sedebit," applies to him. What that phase means is, of course, subject to opinion. Mine is that it indicates an attack on the Catholic Church, possibly by Islamic State using Russian supplied dirty bombs. FYI: Wion's list of 113 papal predictions is commonly referred to as "The Prophecy of St. Malachy," even though St. Malachy had absolutely nothing to do with it. Another misunderstanding is the number of predictions: WIKI numbers them at 112, but the true number is 113.
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