Why Rings of Power Failed where House of the Dragon Worked

Why Rings of Power Failed where House of the Dragon Worked | One v One

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Amazon's Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power is here to dethrone Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon as the new biggest show on TV. But did it? The seasons are still ongoing I guess, but based on the pilot episode, House of the Dragon comes on top. Which is strange because both shows feature a lot of the fantasy elements. So in today's episode of One v One, let's compare these two shows with each other to see how the fantasy side of House of the Dragon is handled in such a way that it's much easier for casual audiences to get into the story... than compared to Rings of Power.
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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (2022)
Prime Video's The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power brings to screens for the very first time the heroic legends of the fabled Second Age of Middle-earth's history. This epic drama is set thousands of years before the events of J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and will take viewers back to an era in which great powers were forged, kingdoms rose to glory and fell to ruin, unlikely heroes were tested, hope hung by the finest of threads, and the greatest villain that ever flowed from Tolkien’s pen threatened to cover all the world in darkness. Beginning in a time of relative peace, the series follows an ensemble cast of characters, both familiar and new, as they confront the long-feared re-emergence rings of power vs house of the dragon rings of power bad show good show trash house of the dragon good show bad show trash rings of power watch free online free house of the dragon watch free online free shocking moments only action pilot episodes is house of the dragon better than rings of power of evil to Middle-earth. From the darkest depths of the Misty Mountains, to the majestic forests of the elf-capital of Lindon, to the breathtaking island kingdom of Númenor, to the furthest reaches of the map, these kingdoms and characters will carve out legacies that live on long after they are gone.
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Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon (2022)
An internal succession war within House Targaryen at the height of its power, 172 years before the birth of Daenerys Targaryen. King Viserys I Targaryen, Prince Daemon Targaryen, Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen

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@Unpainted_Huffhines Жыл бұрын

An old man slowly hobbling across a hall in HotD had more emotional impact than every episode of RoP combined.

@aaroncarroll2417 Жыл бұрын

A real "Oh shit!" Moment Edit: One of many

@ktbecstasy Жыл бұрын

No cap

@ryanfinch8300 Жыл бұрын

Damn somehow that is a fact

@commiehunter733 Жыл бұрын

Amazing

@Force_Of_Habit Жыл бұрын

T H I S H I S

@FACTAWAVES Жыл бұрын

5 kids fighting in HotD had more action and emotion than the entire RoP season

@joklamarbgd5303 Жыл бұрын

For real, i was like "Damn they delivering haymakers to each other"

@TheRibottoStudios Жыл бұрын

It's funny I read the book, and know of the story through the history and lore of westeros but that entre fight I was like "GET HIS ASS LUCERYS GET HIS ASS!" lol

@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRibottoStudios i've never been so tense looking children fight until i saw that

@melancholyman369 Жыл бұрын

Oof

@Jenazad. Жыл бұрын

And an Old man walking up the stairs was 10x more impactfull than their Finale.

@n1harYT Жыл бұрын

Aemond's lost eye gave more chills than they could do with Sauron's eye

@DarthMalgusSith_Lord Жыл бұрын

"do not mourn me, mother. it was a fair exchange. I may have lost an eye, but I gain a dragon" - Aemond Targaryen

@tatersalad76 Жыл бұрын

@@DarthMalgusSith_Lord Aemond less than ten years later: "GIMME THAT EYE BOI I WANT ONE OF THEM EYES!"

@bugboy491 Жыл бұрын

@@tatersalad76 *accidentally kills him*

@juana_marie Жыл бұрын

@@bugboy491 *Assassins kill his brother's child*

@riyaswami8932 2 ай бұрын

@@tatersalad76 It wasn't for him. He wanted Luke's eye to give it to his mother.

@sentientmustache8360 Жыл бұрын

I felt more sympathy for Caraxes than anyone in ROP, i mean, look at the boy, he’s a noodle, how can you not love him

@j.vinton4039 Жыл бұрын

Caraxes is one of the toughest noodles during the DoD. Only matched in power by Vhagar; but I won’t spoil anything if you don’t know yet.

@torenmulrine9714 Жыл бұрын

@@j.vinton4039 still a noodle

@ninarain9422 Жыл бұрын

He's a danger noodle but adorable nonetheless

@mimicmey Жыл бұрын

A noodle that sounds like a leaking balloon, I love him 🐉

@SolarBrain4128 Жыл бұрын

Caraxes is the king of all danger noodles, nope ropes, and sneks.

@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Жыл бұрын

HOTD's biggest strength is that you always understand every character's wants, desires and decisions, even if you disagree with them. In ROP, you end up rooting for Sauron to eliminate all these idiots.

@charlessapp1835 Жыл бұрын

I never thought anyone could make me want to cheer for Sauron like these jokes. My favorite parts in the show is when Guyladriel gets hit in the face by a 800-1100 degree Celsius pyroclastic flow, and when that hobbit got killed.

@maak6270 Жыл бұрын

@@charlessapp1835 Smelly bastard bites the dust! 😂

@sirshotty7689 Жыл бұрын

@@charlessapp1835 that scene was basically a light snowfall for all the characters lmao. The toxic fumes alone would’ve killed everyone there.

@dyingearth Жыл бұрын

I've never rooted for Sauron as much as RoP.

@marlonyo Жыл бұрын

@@sirshotty7689 love how everthing and everyone near galadriel was burn bu she was compleatly fine not a single hair damage.

@mmmahh9056 Жыл бұрын

An old decrypted man walking up to his throne made me cry more than the entire season of rings of power

@AlexanderJoneshttps Жыл бұрын

Same here also his death had a big impact on the story

@tjslam26 Жыл бұрын

Great episode (s1e8). The servant girl who Aegon raped (Danya?) and uncle Vaemond Velaryon gave better performances in that one episode than anyone on a whole season of Rings of Power.

@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Жыл бұрын

@@tjslam26 God Twitchy face Galadriel haunts me in my dreams man.

@andresdelaosa8485 Жыл бұрын

@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 It is only natural to feel conflicted

@lights_utopia1130 Жыл бұрын

@@tjslam26 The background peasant standing there had better acting than any character in the whole season of rings of power

@rhaenyraitargaryen6360 Жыл бұрын

The Game of Thrones universe always centered their stories around human emotion and motivation. It was their driving force and they captivate you with moments like the iron throne scene in episode 8. It's really simple without any context, but since they pulled you into the emotions and motivations of Viserys, you also felt emotional. Rings of Power didn't just lack any of that, they avoided it in any way shape or form.

@thecompanioncube4211 Жыл бұрын

That's the sole reason why GoT got it's traction in the first place. Conflicting personal desires, personal hunger for power and willingness to do anything and everything to achieve that, and fantasy setting as cherry on top. Shame they messed it all up in last seasons but the core element was always solid

@kiboma4209 Жыл бұрын

Both worlds of GoT and LotR are awesome, personally consider the worldbuilding of LotR better but storywise, I felt like GoT was more interesting

@marionarda2790 Жыл бұрын

It was centered on real historical events ( war of the roses)

@alvinmcgreen7087 Жыл бұрын

@@marionarda2790 that's one of the inspirations, not what the whole thing is centered around

@michaelhodgson8272 Жыл бұрын

@@kiboma4209had rings been true to the source material, it probably wouldn’t have failed.

@Meerkat73 Жыл бұрын

High peaks of season 1 for both shows: RoP : 3 small ships of Valinorans carrying 300 warriors + (minimum) 300 horses + food, tents and other equipment engage "Deus ex Machina" style "epic battle" with a couple of hundred Orcs in a small village that represents whole region of Southlands, slicing down scores of enemies with a CHAIN HANDHELD BY A COUPLE OF HORSEMEN (!!!) and being victorious, of course, followed by threat of genocide of the whole race spoken by a lead "hero". HoTD: A single man, rotten by leprosy, physically half-dead king makes an agonizing last grand entrance and walk of pure pain to save his kingdom and heritage. No contest between the two.

@kathlos Жыл бұрын

Extremely superb scene with Viserys, even though the decision to put so many swords there, is kinda bad. Couldn't stop thinking that he could just drop and die on a sword right there made me cackle a bit. On the other hand, that added to the tension.

@Ollyiswild_04 Жыл бұрын

I would say House of the Dragon is far superior

@crayolaclouds2696 Жыл бұрын

I read that the crown fell off Paddy's (King Viserys) head by accident and Matt (Daemon) played along and picked it up and it ended up adding so much more emotion to the scene that the director kept it in. I think it was a good idea, it added so much emotion to the scene.

@kathlos Жыл бұрын

@@crayolaclouds2696 That's a good one. It does for sure. Maybe this is the "reason" they removed them they removed them later on? You know in Game of thrones ERA ahahaha

@debzykvids Жыл бұрын

It's honestly ironic that the franchise with a mainly adult only audience got a better reception than the one aimed for a more family friendly audience - it really just comes down to the writing and handling of high concept genres like fantasy at the end of the day.

@CNNBlackmailSupport Жыл бұрын

That's not really accurate in this case, since Rings was advertised as Game of Thrones with elves. I don't know how many kids read books these days, but it isn't nearly what it was 20 years ago, which wasn't nearly what it was 40 years ago. The Silmarillion is pretty much the avatar of TLDR for people today.

@debzykvids Жыл бұрын

@@CNNBlackmailSupport I'd half agree, except that compared to HoTD and GoT, it's rated PG or PG-13 for most of its episodes (and even when there is an R rated episode, it's nowhere as violent, scary, or gory than what a GoT/HotD episode would have).

@debzykvids Жыл бұрын

Plus the marketing itself was not highlighting much that made it clearly for an older audience like what GoT appeals to, even with its fantasy elements.

@actin9294 Жыл бұрын

RoP family friendly?? What happened to those intimacy instructors that Amazon had hired???

@debzykvids Жыл бұрын

@@actin9294 Guess they just went to the one scene where the Gandalf dude appeared naked out of the sky. :/

@modeyv2 Жыл бұрын

The awkward moment when you want an evil cloud to win, so that you can finally watch something interesting happen.

@FerrettSchlocK Жыл бұрын

I might go back to RoP eventually, but I was hit hard in the first episode with a strong case of "this narration would have made a kick-ass first season". Actually feeling the pain of seeing the glow-trees dying, the hardships of battles in Middle Earth, know the brother better and feel his loss. Feel anger at Sauron for him being evil and not just because he is the bad guy in a well-known franchise. Yeah, that would have been great. Instead it all happens in two minutes and we spend long periods of hobbits doing nothing of any importance.

@Relixification Жыл бұрын

@@FerrettSchlocK they didnt have the rights to Silmarillion (thank god), and even if they did, it'd be woke asf, and they will deviate from the source material. No, they chose specifically to have the appendices from LotR for the second age, because the rights to it ambiguous enough for them to woke it up with their political agendas. They wouldn't risk making their own woke appropriated original fantasy, when they can just get the massive fandom of an established fantasy from the greatest fantasy writer of all time.

@strangerthingsfan0458 Жыл бұрын

House of the Dragon is honestly the most surprising piece of media I've ever seen. I thought it was going to be garbage but damn! I've never been this surprised with any movie or show more than House of the Dragon. Bring on season 2!

@kimberlyoldschool Жыл бұрын

My husband & I went from still being salty over GoT and having no interest in watching this, to dressing as Viserys and Alicent for Halloween. Even people who had not yet seen the show knew who we were supposed to be and had chosen side (“Sorry, I’m Team Black”). I have not heard _anyone_ talk about Rings.

@georgechapman9688 Жыл бұрын

@@kimberlyoldschool it's a lesson to the world. The fans can be won back to the thing they used to love if the new content is well done. (Team green 💚)

@budakbaongsiah Жыл бұрын

This and Andor to me.

@woodside4life Жыл бұрын

@@kimberlyoldschool I was the same way. Funny, what a difference a good season of television makes!

@DanAndHoe Жыл бұрын

I am surprised so many people enjoy House of the Dragon. Hell, even surprised to see a video with “House of the Dragon worked” in its title. I couldn’t really get into it, and neither did anyone else I know who binged GoT. Once I finally started to getting a feel for it, we moved forward in time and many actors changed, while also many actors didn’t change. It broke all immersion and I just couldn’t get myself to care for anyone. I still haven’t watched the final episode. I just can’t be bothered.

@marks2997 Жыл бұрын

When the king walked through that door, despite his age and bad health, it had the same impact for me as Hangman saving Maverick. Really well done and perhaps more so in HotD as there was a family element to it - I am showing up for my daughter.

@anaalicia5029 Жыл бұрын

You are really worth listening to for some of these people getting crazy high budgets and succumb to bad writing.

@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын

This is yet another case study about how money doesn't automatically make your production good

@westrim Жыл бұрын

But they won't. Echo chambers and all that. No one important in media production is scrolling KZfaq looking for critiques of their work.

@Gungrave123 Жыл бұрын

@@westrim M-she-U writers apparently are

@firefiy8789 Жыл бұрын

@@Gungrave123 Nah, they are scrolling through reddit. A place where arguments can never be as clearly explained as on youtube, not really.

@raulvidal2343 Жыл бұрын

When they invest too much money, the producers get scared of losing it and instead of letting the creatives in charge of the script do their work, they have to get in and play safe. Amazon treats Tolkien as Disney treats Star Wars, or any franchise they own at this point: rely on nostalgia and references instead of a good plot.

@Funinightmare Жыл бұрын

The fact that Galadriel's motivation to avenge her brother might as well not even exist because after the pilot she pretty much just attacks, threatens and insults basically anyone she sees. It's almost like a tragedic character who cannot be free of her own hatred, but the show is trying to tell you that she is the good one and everyone else is wrong. This isn't just a Lord of the rings thing this is just plain horrible writing and any franchise, any story can be tainted by such arrogance. I am extremely happy that House of Dragon is smart enough and passionate enough to steer far away from such mistakes

@FULANODETAL Жыл бұрын

she got more brothers

@Funinightmare Жыл бұрын

@@FULANODETAL I'm sure she loves them all very very deeply just as much as Finrod according to Amazon, the most faithful writers ever

@zacharyhobia159 Жыл бұрын

Dont forget when she told Adar about her one true desire of seeing the entire Orc race get genocided in a way that makes Adar look like the good guy

@anhkduc7930 Жыл бұрын

Because the show is written by amateurs whose have basically no show in their career

@TheSofkujepanen Жыл бұрын

@@bkg5494 i believe the word is ”tragic”

@noobandfriends2420 Жыл бұрын

The twist should have been: Galadriel was actually Sauron in disguise. Galadriel was really meditating in a tree somewhere.

@BKPrice Жыл бұрын

Have Cate Blanchett come onto the show and fight against Morfydd Clarke Galadriel and reveal her to be an impostor.

@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын

So, like Luke Skywalker tricking his nephew on Last Jedi?

@Gadget-Walkmen Жыл бұрын

@@margarethmichelina5146 lol no, that's NOT the same thing at all. Luke wasn't revealed to be some evil big bad at all, he was just projecting his image somewhere.

@bigj1905 Жыл бұрын

Basically: House of Dragons is a person focused story with fantasy in the background. While Rings of Power is a fantasy story with people in the background.

@yourdreams2440 Жыл бұрын

Bad assessment. The Silmarillion is basically what you said rings of power is. It’s not game of thrones, and it’s not as people focused. The problem with rings of power is it has bad writing. If it were faithful it it’s source material it would’ve awesome but still not as character-driven as hotd. It’s a different style of story.

@babelov Жыл бұрын

Hotd which person foucus?

@Panteni87 Жыл бұрын

@@yourdreams2440 Silmarillion is about the first age, rop is about the second age.

@yourdreams2440 Жыл бұрын

@@Panteni87 The plot of RoP is laid out in the silmarillion like the fall of Numenor

@zawarudo1041 Жыл бұрын

no, rings of power is esg-positive agendas with "folks" that check the boxes not even in the background, cause they are so "powerful"

@TheSmackdown800 Жыл бұрын

The basic principle is: dont tell, show In Rings of Power characters often just tell how they feel, like Galadriel explains 100 times that she is angry and the audience just has to take it. In HotD they have introduced the characters slowly and demonstrated the motivation and character of each person. Now you could probably turn off the sound and you would still feel the tention in every scene.

@tjslam26 Жыл бұрын

I mean, how can you "show" that there's a tempest in you if you don't tell anyone?

@bladedancer9140 Жыл бұрын

@@tjslam26 it’s the difference between acing a math test and constantly saying you’re very smart

@reinhartnata47 Жыл бұрын

@@tjslam26 never heard of the saying "show, don't tell"?

@tjslam26 Жыл бұрын

@@reinhartnata47 I've heard someone tell that to a Rings of Power writer but they had their headphones on and ignored them.

@gymbledore9739 Жыл бұрын

Issue is in RoP when they tried to show something it then didnt make sense, people did nonsensical things, they got both aspects wrong, its a classic example of people who dont know or understand the material they are drawing from and want to do their vision of it. issues arise when it breaks the fundamental rules of that world. they would have been better off doing something new instead of a bastardization of a beloved and well known franchise.

@wjzav1971 Жыл бұрын

I think it comes down to something similar of why the earlier seasons of Game of Thrones worked where the later ones didn't. You write relatable characters with understandable consistent motifs you win. You have stuff happen and characters doing stupid shit for no clear reason, you loose.

@RTDice11 Жыл бұрын

HotD doesnt do that at all though. It's GoT Season 8 levels of storytelling that people are lapping up because it isn't Rings of Power.

@G0TIMAN Жыл бұрын

@@RTDice11 XDDDDD

@TheSofkujepanen Жыл бұрын

@@RTDice11 care to explain how exactly?

@JakeLYT Жыл бұрын

@@bkg5494 being loose is TIGHT.

@wayothefro3249 Жыл бұрын

@@RTDice11 No, not it's not. The only scenes that ever came close to GoT season 8 were Daemon's suicide charge on the beach and the Rhaenys scene in the last episode. You're tripping if you think the entire show is anywhere close to the atrocity that was season 8 of GoT.

@danieljlanoue8823 Жыл бұрын

I think the funniest part of this whole debacle is that A.) The writers actually got this script published B.) An untold number of suits signed off on it with glowing praise C.) And then the EPIC FAIL of Amazon thinking the Sauron reveal was clever... but hey at least they didn't delete 5,000 1-star reviews and get caught in real time... All in all, I think we can chalk this one up as a "W" for Amazon.

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@appledornart2535 Жыл бұрын

It really feels like it comes down to good writing vs bad writing. The complex interactions of a complicated family and the drama from greedy people grasping for power, vs. people just doing and saying things that gets us to the next set piece or reveals the next "mystery" box to string the audience along with cliffhangers that never go anywhere.

@Gadget-Walkmen Жыл бұрын

It's fine to have "mystery" and "cliffhangers" of course as I LOVE those, just as much as many other people but it's just a matter on HOW it's done as we should care about the characters first and foremost before heading straight into any plotpoint or gradually develop the characters AS we're heading into every single new plotpoint.

@_greenrunner_ Жыл бұрын

simple. An old man at the end of his days, who walked across his throne room and said “i will sit on the throne today” to his power hungry hand gave me more emotion than the entire season of RoP. why? Once has compelling writing behind it, which is ultimately always the answer to these things

@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын

Viserys is the one true king

@sailormoonwannabe Жыл бұрын

That scene was so amazing and Daemon putting the crown back on his head.

@MateusAntonioBittencourt Жыл бұрын

For all his faults... and Viserys had many... in that scene he showed true strength. He was in excruciating pain... but refused milk of the poppy... and then walked the whole room alone. And the best part is that it's not out of the nowhere just because the script demands Rhaenyra to have a "win". But the culmination of his vacillations and indecisions the whole season. He makes a commitment to Rhaenyra... but have more children. He reaffirms his Rhaenyra as heir and kicks Otto out... only to then gets Otto back as hand and leave him to rule, knowing full well Otto wants Aegon to succeed him. He always followed the path of least resistance. But not at that time. In that scene he showed why he was King.

@YouCantDeleteDenzelL Жыл бұрын

Paddy Considine's acting in that whole episode was just phenomenal.

@ne0nmancer Жыл бұрын

@gg ddfccc What the fuck?

@behnu Жыл бұрын

If Galadriel showed her feet to someone in order for information about Sauron maybe the show would be as good as House of the Dragon

@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын

😤🤤 imagine how they smell

@ArosNacht Жыл бұрын

Bruh

@Severn19th Жыл бұрын

💀💀

@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын

That would save the entire thing

@thymn4384 Жыл бұрын

My guy kills, for some feet, he down bad fr

@Prelooker Жыл бұрын

Completely agree. This comes to prove franchises are worth nothing with poor writing. Another con in ROP, to me, is that they use super famous characters, like Elrond and Galadriel, and change the lore completely. Meaning they didn't even take advantage of having such well-known chars to build their story upon. Instead of bringing new chars, like HOTD, they twisted canon names and left many scratching their heads, myself included. Like, Galadriel single and in armor in the Second Age? She was living with Celeborn in some woods by then and couldn't care less about war. I know strong female leads are the trend, but hey, they could have spent a few of their zillion dollars on a good writer with a slight idea about the franchise world, right?

@mariecarie1 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, while I’m someone who prefers holding to the lore as well, I would’ve been content with these famous characters being *consistent* with how they’ve already been established. We know they’re both over one thousands of years old, so it seems very unlikely they (particularly Galadriel) would act SO stupid, hasty and belligerent. Their personalities would have long since established, and it just seems super unlikely that a stupid, hasty, belligerent elf would chill to become glowy-glowy mirror queen after another thousand years. I mean, maybe elven personalities develop and change waaaaaaaay slower than humans, heck if I know. This show just has a lot of problems.

@Prelooker Жыл бұрын

@@mariecarie1 Absolutely agree. They could have created some lesser Noldor princess to fit the role, instead of trying to update Galadriel to the current strong-female-lead standard -which in this show actually translates to what you said: stupid, hasty and belligerent.

@mariecarie1 Жыл бұрын

@@Prelooker But most people who watch the show already know Galadriel, so apparently it’s just easier to hijack her character and twist it into what they want than create a new character. I mean, obviously-any other new characters are completely flatline and inconsistent. I know I’m only an armchair critic, but the writing is just atrocious.

@Prelooker Жыл бұрын

@@mariecarie1 Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And we're all armchair critics in the end. TV shows are not meant for writers only, but for all of us. Shame on them their writing is so poor even us can spot it.

@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын

That's the problem of Hollywood these days, they choose quantity (money) over quality!

@vyntarus9618 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't have to be a "human story", it just needs to have characters with understandable motives for the audience. It's incredibly hard to get invested in a story or its characters if the only reason they seem to do or say anything is to advance to the next plot point/location, which is the primary problem with RoP. EDIT: Just got to minute 14 where you say basically the same thing. Good!

@spoiler321 Жыл бұрын

"He needs Elvis healing. That means they have to go see Arwen's dad who is Steven Tyler" A quote from the writer's room.

@Krusesensei Жыл бұрын

uhhm - why is he the only one who needs elven healing?

@manoz6194 Жыл бұрын

Elvis healing lol

@ninab.4540 Жыл бұрын

"YEAH YEAH, two for the elf money!"

@Gwynsladle Жыл бұрын

Elvis Presley confirmed irl Elven

@manoz6194 Жыл бұрын

@@Gwynsladle That must be why people still say that he lives!

@kueapel911 Жыл бұрын

I miss the good ol days where the protagonist have humbled beginning. Either they were weak, or humiliated by their adversary, then struggle, and then triumph in the end. Meanwhile ring of power.... galadriel decimates the bully as a child, decimates the troll as an adult, and is 100% right about everything... not a single humbling aspect at all. Now we know why aragorn isn't the main protagonist in LoTR. Now we know why aragorn and everyone else bow to our beloved hobbits in the end.

@singularityraptor4022 Жыл бұрын

Same issue in modern StarCrap..I mean Starwars

@CinceTheDay Жыл бұрын

nice copy and paste comment. where were you when "commando" was released? ahh, I see... it's only a problem when the lead is female.

@CinceTheDay Жыл бұрын

guys, why do you even put up the act? If I'd place 100 bucks on your views on global warming, covid and racism I would not go home a broke man. so why all the theatrics a la "I have black friends too", "ripley" and "I'm not a misogynist, I just talk like one" as one of you far right incel victims put "predator" (which I assume to be "prey") into play I basically don't even have to counter anymore cause you beat yourselves. prey is an awesome movie. that's not coming from me but from metacritic(for example) where it currently holds a score of 71(!) this shows you manage to gather successfully on your basically only stage: YT comment sections but that's it, you're a minority whose opinions and complains are straight up ignored (or destroyed ♥Zack Snyder♥) by the content creators end executives. I mean look at how many videos your poster child crew ala geeks and gamers, nerdrotic, the quartering or whatever their names uploaded here about: "kathleen kennedy being replaced" - she's basically replaced on a daily base. reality moves on - without you.

@muhammadashshiddiq8752 Жыл бұрын

@@CinceTheDay why do you think people who don't like rings of power are racists, misogynists,And don't believe in global warming? Does it have anything to do with the ring of power assessment?

@CinceTheDay Жыл бұрын

@@kueapel911 congrats, another hand played flawlessly by you (against yourself unfortunatly) now everybody knows what it means when you're "sure" of something. checking out that I'm not a bot would've taken like 10 seconds -instead you did put down 112 words of exactly the BS you guys just can't resist. just keep going, stage is yours.

@EpicGamer10075 Жыл бұрын

You do the best ad transitions of any KZfaqr I've seen. So many of them just stuff them into the middle of the video with no proper transitions, but you actually work the transition into the stuff you're actually talking about in the video itself, which sponsors the company AND shows a very good example of what you're talking about!

@aaroncarroll2417 Жыл бұрын

Very few do it this smoothly

@Ivotas Жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, this is the only channel where I'm actually looking forward to the sponsorship because the transitions are amazing. They literally show Filmento himself actually applying what he is talking about.

@amberslahlize7961 Жыл бұрын

Lol I honestly busted out laughing at this transition, it was just great!

@majorknight859 Жыл бұрын

IKR. In all honesty, I hate the sponsorship bits even when they're done by expert comedians so I usually skip them or fast forward if they're in the middle In Filmento's case, I don't think I ever fast forwarded anything given how he fits them Soo naturally with whatever he was talking about

@bindair_dundat Жыл бұрын

I really hope HotD can use the dragons during the dance of dragons without overshadowing the human element. Because as pretty as they are, it's the human dialogues and interactions where that show really shines.

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@Medaumplay3 Жыл бұрын

Well, now that we have the bigger picture, that bezos' show got progressively worse, and House got progressively better, we can confirm much of what's been said here. The reason for House's success is not exactly the fantasy elements, it's the characters and the amazing story. One of their most incredible series is just king viserys walking to a throne, because of how invested we are in the characters. There were no dragons in that scene. P.S.: House is pretty good so far. It's game of thrones, so we kinda have to wait and see how it ends before we go around calling it the GOAT

@Tyler_W Жыл бұрын

To be fair, so long as they maintain writing quality and don't needlessly change too much of the story beyond recognition, this should actually end well because it's based on a complete story, unlike Game of Thrones. The writers aren't working with a handful of broadstrokes notes for 3-4 seasons

@paulsoldner9500 Жыл бұрын

@@Tyler_W One problem with that myth is that they only "ran out" of book content in season 6-7 (timeline dependent). And the reason for this was actually cutting out huge swaths of content and rushing stories and relying on fanservice and fanfiction.

@michiel1162 Жыл бұрын

@@Tyler_W it's well known D&D got tired of Game of Thrones and wanted to do other stuff (their little star wars movie) but they didn't want anyone else walking away with the honour of finishing the series so they finished it themselves in a big rush. Ironic enough they didn't have any job in Hollywood since.

@paulsoldner9500 Жыл бұрын

@@michiel1162 Yup! That's correct! They killed their golden goose and now have nothing.

@Medaumplay3 Жыл бұрын

@gg ddfccc i don't feel like we're both watching the same show

@neeee.21 Жыл бұрын

Each moment portrayed in HotD is impactful. Any actions taken by the characters have consequences later in the show. And the story becomes progressively better and more engaging with each episode. The fantasy material is like a cherry on top but the main point of the story is still very human. Both had lead female protagonist yet Rop felt like a washed out version of female empowering show in contrast to HotD where they showed both the fmc's strengths and struggles. Rop should have invested more in the writing department rather than cgi.

@adamchoquette1937 Жыл бұрын

RoP wants you to relate Gal, but in a "why isn't anyone listening to her?" kinda way. Gilgalad and all the other elves just don't want to believe despite the fact she did discover something. She (Gal) doesn't help her case, because she can only be snarky and stubborn. Any opposition to her plan get a scornful look from her and attempts to force you to see her way. There is no room for others to have an opinion; you either agree or are an idiot.

@munken7673 Жыл бұрын

Except when Cole killed that guy at the wedding

@Nooom91 Жыл бұрын

@@adamchoquette1937 and the issue is RoP doesn't even portray this as a character flaw for Galadriel. She acts in the dumbest, least diplomatic manner but we're supposed to feel like it's all warranted because she's right about Sauron and everyone is just prejudiced against elves. If she was confronted about her behavior, it could be made into a character development arc. Like rebellious teenager turns into strong leader when she learns to be less arrogant. Why not? Though she's supposed to be already hundreds of years old and a commander of armies, while being incapable of any diplomacy or leadership...

@shreksmeatballs9435 Жыл бұрын

I freaking love the female protagonists of HotD. Unlike your generic boring feminist garbage, they've made EVERY character grey and morally ambiguous. You root for people but are reminded of their faults. You loathe people but then you are reminded of their well-doings. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra have positive and negative aspects to their personality. As the video said, they're more human than fantasy, and I freaking love that.

@TomCruz54321 Жыл бұрын

So many movies/shows have been ruined by the obsession with MYSTERY BOXES. If you want the audience to follow the story, you need to reveal the character motivations. You need to show the step by step progress towards their goal. The problem is I didn't know the trench was gonna be used to explode the volcano. So all that time spent building it, I wasn't following anything. I didn't know what it was for, who was building it, and why they're building it. That's a sure way to bore the audience.

@del5221 Жыл бұрын

Actually, something I noticed is that Filmento was able to explain the story of HOTD without explaining all the fantasy elements (man, he didn't even explain what dragons have to do with the story). Whereas in RoP he was forced to explain a lot of fantasy background to tell what the story is about. I don't know if HOTD could integrate the fantasy elements a little more into its story and not just leave it as a background (and if that is better or not), but it definitely shows the priorities of the show.

@hypothalapotamus5293 Жыл бұрын

GRRM's stories are anthropocentric. If you understand people, you understand why GRRM's characters do what they do. The fantasy elements are mostly of interest in how they alter human behavior. HOTD focuses heavily on the Targaryen family tree, whose structure is heavily influenced by fantasy elements. The power to control dragons is the reason for their godlike status and rule, but it is dangerous if it turns against itself (dragon riders have way too much power and this has a destabilizing effect). Incestuous marriages are as much to keep dragon power united as to keep a pure Valyrian bloodline. The first half of the season is devoted to most sane individuals (e.g. Lyonel Strong) trying to reunite Jahaerys' legitimate descendants through marriage (The Velaryons are descended from the first son Aemon, while Rhaenyra is descended from Baelon and Daella), but these efforts lead to general unhappiness (characters are not compatible with these rational requirements) and are thwarted when Viserys makes a hightower branch with a competing claim. In contrast to this careful interplay between human and fantasy elements, we have ROP which is devoid of humanity and has lore that isn't really canon.

@samueltitone5683 Жыл бұрын

More than any other genre, I believe fantasy can suffer from excessive worldbuilding. Some writers become so obsessed with the world they created that the world stops telling the story and the story starts telling the world. This appears to be the chief trap RoP fell into that Hot D avoided. Granted, this problem usually applies to high schoolers cranking out their first Wheel of Time ripoff, not billion dollar TV shows, but that’s neither here nor there.

@AlirioAguero2 Жыл бұрын

Sure, there is a fine line between an overdone and an underdeveloped worldbuilding in fantasy, and the author needs to know where that line is. Show too little, and the characters will seem to float within an empty world, only interacting with characters and objects that are somehow crucial to the plot. There will be no intrigue to hook the audience to find out more about this world. On the other hand, when the plot is crammed with too much information and too much sub-plots, one will get confused and give-up on investing into that world.

@Hyperversum3 Жыл бұрын

The absurdity is that they had all the job done for them. You know, being based on Tolkien's work. The guy who created languages? The guy who has a fucking chronology long several thousands years? Yeah, that guy.

@Dravianpn02 Жыл бұрын

Disagree. They had everything they couldve asked for. They couldn't overwrite because they had enough for new and lore consistent material to not do what you explained here. That's how bad they are. They had months and months and warning after warning and book after book with interview after interview and they STILL lied and fucked it up. My 7 year old genuinely writes better than they do.

@zawarudo1041 Жыл бұрын

this is bad assessment, because you had tolkiens work and Jackson's original trilogy, the only thing you had to do is to NOT INCLUDE TOXIC SOCIAL IDEOLOGIES, and apparently it was still too much for amazon's "powerful" directors

@YouCantDeleteDenzelL Жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that the season finale accidentally implies that basically nothing bad would have happened if Galadriel had actually ACTED when shit hit the fan rather than just yelling at everyone to shut up because she's the boss.

@othertalk3313 Жыл бұрын

Like you said, that has to be an accident. Galadriel is flawless, after all, so we must assume that some rando guy did something or other off-screen to make it appear as if she did something wrong. (Watch that become a real plot point in episode 1 of season 2 after the writers realize what they did to Strong Woman...)

@marlonyo Жыл бұрын

it is actually imply that had she not been a crazy bich and either gone to valinor or at least not jump in the middle of the ocean sauron would had been eaten by a fish and die.

@ReinierSandtke Жыл бұрын

What are you even talking about? Acted on what? Yelling at who? Did you even watch the season finale?

@dolomaticus1180 Жыл бұрын

@@ReinierSandtke He means when Guyladriel figured out Halbrand is Sauron, but does NOTHING to alert the other Elves. They are going the whole sexual attraction route between the two...Which is done better by Daytime Soaps and Telenovellas.

@danielschoch4881 Жыл бұрын

@@othertalk3313 They make sauron hypnotizing her to encourage him becoming king of the Southlands.

@DragonsDream Жыл бұрын

HotD simply has more heart & passion poured into its dialogue & story writing than RoP.

@reannoire4330 Жыл бұрын

This One V One section between these shows are great, especially for a pilot versus pilot episode. I hope to see a full depth Anatomy of a Failure section for the Rings of Power's Season 1, because in reality, it's a typical downgrade fan fiction of the Tolkien lore. Otherwise, this is a great One v One video of the day.

@afrye51 Жыл бұрын

Love the content, and the ad transitions are always well-tied in and funny

@JudgementalGoat Жыл бұрын

I was expecting this from you and you didn't disappoint my friend. You explained it plainly, Amazon wasted a shit ton of money on the most incompetent creative team ever, while HBO did so much more with half their resources budget wise.

@akuhappy3246 Жыл бұрын

Ego and stupidity lies there

@KineticCode Жыл бұрын

@@bkg5494 Rings of power is rlly bad ngl. Although after i started watching it to find all of the shitty writing easter eggs, the show got much better. i dont think thats what amazon was going for.

@lordseaworth6055 Жыл бұрын

They both ruined their shows, so they both sucked. Shame

@Ravakeksis Жыл бұрын

Calling it a "creative" team is quite generous of you. Problem is they didnt hire writers but activists

@fahimalvi9521 Жыл бұрын

House of Dragon was made by people who genuinely loves the lore and took advice from the main author himself. Meanwhile Rings Of Power is made by people who don’t even know the characters they are working on or the lore. And let’s not even get into it’s dialogues. You can spend as much money as possible but it won’t make the mediocre writing better.

@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын

Also, George R.R Martin is one the writers and the producer of the show, they have more advantage on that. Rings of Power is made by Woke "Activists" who knows nothing about Tolkien and thinking they're Shakesperean but at the same time they write it with their feelings.

@twilightknight2333 Жыл бұрын

@@margarethmichelina5146 You guys think HoTD has no wokeness to it? lmao. It's still far superior to RoP when it comes to acting and writing, but there's still A LOT of wokeness to HoTD, or did you just forget all the attempt to make you feel sympahty for women being portrayed as supposed second class citizens and all the forced black actors and minor brown characters in an essentially medieval European fantasy world?

@346ego Жыл бұрын

@@margarethmichelina5146 how are they « woke activists »? (That’s a real question btw I haven’t seen ROP so I’m genuinely curious as to why)

@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын

@@346ego Just look at the casts of ROP dude. Also, one of the actress who played the Dwarf Queen really push too much of the diversity and she seems unlikable in real life.

@jacquesdaniels2435 Жыл бұрын

@@346ego watch their interviews..lol... activists producers plus actors

@edsherwood2173 Жыл бұрын

House of the dragon was awesome I wish there where more movies like that, the dragon scenes gave me goosebumps. Shame there’s nothing else out there like it

@Black-Re4per Жыл бұрын

That very scene, where Galadriel was laughing while riding on her Horse, is still haunting me every night. 😱😱

@baumbart7560 Жыл бұрын

I feel like you could make the less personal approach work, as long as you actually take the time to make your audience invested in the world instead, which RoP failed to do. For example: why would we care about Valinor? As RoP portrayed it, Valinor just seemed like a normal place with some nice trees. I mean, introducing it with a scene about bullying, didn't exactly make it feel like paradise. And yet it's the only scene we got about daily live in what is supposed to be like heaven for the elves. It makes the destruction of the trees as well as Galadriel's choice to not go back so much less impactfull. They did try to make you care about Harfoot society though, which might have been nice, if they didn't undermine all of the "hearts bigger than our feet" stuff with unnecessary cruelty, every time the plot demanded it. You want to help this confused old man, you found alone in the forest? Well, how about we doom your entire family to certain death instead? Very big hearts indeed... They also tried a bit with Numenor, which I actually think they did a good job with in the third episode. Then came the "elves are taking our jobs" speech and it all went downhill from there. Just pretty disappointing over all.

@bloodyneptune Жыл бұрын

Yeah, every time the Harfoots said something like "nobody gets left behind" I was thinking...you guys _regularly_ leave people to die because you're wildly superstitious

@benjaminaltube8731 Жыл бұрын

It's the "fiction has to reflect the society we live in today" trope that kinda doesn't work for Tolkien's work. I guess if you confronted a RoP about the harfoots, they would say "yes because that exposes the hipocrisy of tradition "

@jamesmcd6929 Жыл бұрын

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@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminaltube8731 They're trying the allegory approach which as we all know Tolkien hates and he quite possibly designed his World to be unapproachable in that angle, although doing so could theoretically work it would need knowledge and effort put into it.

@DaChonkIsHere Жыл бұрын

I haven't watched the show yet and so idk what the "elves are taking our jobs" speech is about but it sounds hilarious

@maplebob23 Жыл бұрын

I love when Gladriel goes into the phone booth and comes out as Clark Kent!

@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын

I may dislike RoP as a whole but the Clark Kent scene was masterful

@CinceTheDay Жыл бұрын

funny! almost.

@RichardRagan Жыл бұрын

Very nice review. I think basically you're making a distinction that I've never heard of before, so it's an original thought, that Rings of Power is architected to involve master plot using the characters as pawns on a chess board. On the other side, House of Dragon is written to be immersive where you can actually feel the character's motivations and anticipate what's going to happen next based on standard social interaction. Well done.

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@randyjax09 Жыл бұрын

That guy’s reaction to the Oberyn scene has me laughing my ass off. 🤣🤣🤣

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@tariizm1500 Жыл бұрын

i think he is KSI

@RespectTheSourceMaterial Жыл бұрын

In ROP they literally created mount doom and three rings of power in a week and a half. I kid you not. Meanwhile we spent an entire season with the harfoots where nothing happens and we had to endure the romance between angsty immature (1000 year old) Galadriel and Sauron. I never thought a GRRM adaptation would be superior to a Tolkien one( especially since rop costs 60 MILLION per episode meanwhile HOTD cost less than 20 million per episode) but here we are. What a strange world. At least i won't have to hear about this show for 2.5-3 years (the showrunners said 2 years THE EARLIEST).

@Graavigala85 Жыл бұрын

Dont forget: the most skilled elven smith does not know how to mix metals

@RespectTheSourceMaterial Жыл бұрын

@@Graavigala85 LMAO imagine a mortal (everyone thought halbrand was a human don't start your mental gymnastics people) going to an immortal elven smith whose skills are basically second to none and his status is godlike and saying "have you though of mixing these metals?". I imagine celebrimbor would look at him like a father looks his 4 year old and laugh.

@westrim Жыл бұрын

@@Graavigala85 There's little they can do to allay the alloy stupidity.

@GimbleOnDew Жыл бұрын

RoP is not a Tolkien work.

@jaroslavb.korinek7285 Жыл бұрын

Whatever the ROP is, it's not so much a Tolkien adaptation, rather a very loosely based fanfiction. With such serious deviations from the canon it ceased to be an adaptation in about 20th minute of episode 1.

@aakashsancheti9614 Жыл бұрын

He should make a new channel, Tvmento

@Zinferbuddy Жыл бұрын

Great vid. I think this may be my favorite movie analysis channel. Really focusing on the storytelling elements

@0That_Guy0 Жыл бұрын

12:49 I didn't expect flashbacks to "Your Favorite Martian". I love all the little memes and older references hidden throughout your videos!

@TheRibottoStudios Жыл бұрын

Having seen both shows up to the most recent episodes here's my quick analysis. Rings of Power is more focused on the SPECTACLE. House of the Dragon is more focused on the STORY. It's a family drama that just so happens to take place in Westeros, and just so happens to have dragons, which is the spectacle. The show doesn't rely on the spectacle as a crutch. And for some people spectacle is enough. And for others, they're more invested in the story. That's fine if you're in one camp, or in the other, or both for that matter. And it's also fine if you don't like one, or the other, or dislike both shows.

@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat Жыл бұрын

While that is true for season one, it won't stay that way, the dance of dragons will really focus more on the fantasy side of the story. (Family will still bw the strong theme but not the only one)

@jamesmalik3355 Жыл бұрын

rings of power has the same problem Foundation had. all spectacle but didn't focus on the core story

@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын

@@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat you can't know that cuz you haven't seen it, regardless of whether you've read the books (since they can make changes)

@btchiaintkidding7837 Жыл бұрын

RoP's problem is tgey have zero focus on tolkien and his fantasy world but all the focus on blaming fans and modern world politics

@TheRibottoStudios Жыл бұрын

@@3KidsStackedUnderATrenchcoat Not really. The Dance of Dragons will have more and more dragonfights, but the heart of the story, is that the civil war of the Targaryens, could've ended without too much bloodshed. Aegon didn't even want the throne. Rhaenyra wanted it over the moment one of her sons died when Aemond murdered him on the way back from Storm's End. It was the people around them that kept the war going. It's still a family drama that happens to be in a fantasy world.

@mertbince6582 Жыл бұрын

House of the dragon is on a different league compared to rings of power. Fucking incredible visuals and acting looking forward to the season finale

@DarthMalgusSith_Lord Жыл бұрын

oof! bring your tissue bro, Lucerys Velaryon gonna died

@thisiscoral Жыл бұрын

gotta say, big points to Filmento for his finesse in adding his ads so smoothly into his video's flow. Something so rarely done right

@parshath5819 Жыл бұрын

sir I have to say your transition into sponsorships just keep getthing more legendary cause that was the best insert I've ever seen.

@afroahmed3989 Жыл бұрын

i like how smoothly you mix the context of the video with the sponsor message that every time it goes over my head and i take it as the actual video analysis, you're the GOAT for real

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@x511100x Жыл бұрын

Rings of Poo lectures you about something and then has the characters hypocritically do that very thing. Same problem She-Hulk had, it's just annoying to watch. Not to mention the lack of subtlety and constantly holding the audience's hand with every line of dialogue

@awkwardlymatt Жыл бұрын

Fantastic analysis and really just a good breakdown of what makes storytelling compelling in general. I watched Rings of Power cause I love the world but only stuck around out of some obligation and (very faint) hope that it might turn itself around in the end. I could barely tell you anything about who the characters are, just plot points - I struggle to remember their names outside of the ones LOTR fans knew already going in.

@1sweetree Жыл бұрын

Filmento's editing is one of my favorite things aside from his analysis.. So good

@flamingburritto Жыл бұрын

Oh the reason for me is very simple. (This took effort to write so pls read) One show pays respect to the source material and the fans. Takes criticism in a healthy way. Doesn't have any personal or political agenda which changes entire characteristics of characters. And builds upon what came before. The other "fixes" the source material by forcefully putting in agendas that don't belong. Alters characters to suit their story (Galadriel is the only competent warrior in the whole show, every other "male" character is either an idiot or incompetent buffoon). It also attacks any criticism by calling it racist, sexist, etc. Heavily motivated by political agendas to the point it sacrifices story, character and immersion. And lastly, destroys what came before it. Lets take a look at two things that ROP tried hard but failed miserbly. *Representation* Lets take a simple example shall we? *Colored people* (Because I'm colored myself). House of dragons does representation according to the source material, it doesn't just magically race swap characters or anything of the kind, there's still good representation there done right. ROP however changed skin colors of already established race that doesn't make sense lore wise, location wise or story wise. Because ROP is a prequel with black elves and black dwarves, are you suggesting that before the peter jackson movies there was a genocide where only black elves and dwarves were killed??? Because in those movies there are only white dwarves and elves. *Women empowerment* Theres also another angle of *"feminism and women empowerment"* which again, house of dragons does right. It doesn't make men suddenly incompetent to show the strength of their female characters. However in ROP male characters are made to be utter buffoons and incompetent idiots who cant even swing a sword. Also it doesn't make sense cuz she wasn't established as this warrior woman character all in the movies that came before. If you have to make men incompetent to make your female characters shine, all you're doing is saying that your female characters will be incompetent around competent male characters.

@walterude6323 Жыл бұрын

This is actually a brilliant take, especially with the black dwarves and how the show being a prequel rubbishes that. And my god, for all the empowerment they sought to make Galadriel stand for, all they ended up with was a character who's just so annoying, you just want Sauron to take her out.

@samueltitone5683 Жыл бұрын

Glad I’m not the only one who was off put by the unintentionally implied ethnic cleansing of Middle Earth. Diversity is great, but if they wanted to tell a diverse story, they could have and should have explored area outside of Middle Earth. If that wouldn’t be marketable enough, they could have had characters from the eastern lands of Rhûn. A foreigner’s perspective on Middle Earth could have been endlessly fascinating.

@Cherrypi393 Жыл бұрын

I didn’t watch ROP, but HOD did some race swapping and adding a more diverse cast. And to good effect. In the end, it’s all about writing. The race and gender doesn’t matter. You just need to write a good story. ROP problem isn’t race or gender or anything political. If they kept everyone white, what would that have fixed? If they made the main character male, but kept everyone else the same would that have made this a better show? You’re focusing on effects of the bad writing as the source, rather than a symptom.

@agraciotti Жыл бұрын

Fortunately, House of the Dragon has been fantastic all season. Terrific cast and writing. Episode 8 was a masterclass of television show. I'd go as far as to say it was better than any episode of GOT.

@OktayKus1993 Жыл бұрын

Mindless boring Television with ridiculess senseless Archs. The Drama of the narative feels forced a dont start with the freak who jerks of on the queen.. dont lower your entertainment Standards just to see dragons

@stannisbaratheontheonetrue6167 Жыл бұрын

got early seasons was peak of what webseries could be

@cubencis Жыл бұрын

OMG I love you for cutting in Norm. I’m a huge fan. Take all my thumbs till the end of time

@SpudIllusionPictures Жыл бұрын

The use of George Brun's Robin Hood music at 3:10 made me smile thank you

@MrNH718 Жыл бұрын

A dying old man slowly walking down a hallway in HOTD was more epic than anything in ROP.

@Frostycrypton Жыл бұрын

Always appreciate your keen-eyed film perspective that I lack! Would love to hear your thoughts on the rest of the season(s).

@margaritasalt Жыл бұрын

your editing is hilarious and the commentary insightful. great video.

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@merrillbeck1575 Жыл бұрын

Only one of the best ad transitions that I’ve ever seen

@KlonoaFan64 Жыл бұрын

You should definitely do more TV show analysis in the future! Perhaps a “How Arcane: League of Legends does anime better than High Guardian Spice”? Just an idea. 🙂

@randomuser1093 Жыл бұрын

Oh man I would totally love to see an Arcane analysis video from Filmento

@davisvoelzke8011 Жыл бұрын

@gortalla5474 Жыл бұрын

Arcane isn’t an anime though

@Aseruxx Жыл бұрын

@@randomuser1093 Same, the show totally crushed everyones expectations and the shows writing is definitelly worth analysing.

@Sean_B123 Жыл бұрын

I can’t watch this yet, as I haven’t seen either show, but I’m sure it’s a banger nonetheless

@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын

Indeed. It’s gonna be good

@Filmento Жыл бұрын

I only cover the pilot episodes. I haven't seen more myself either.

@blckspice5167 Жыл бұрын

Your sponsor section was so smooth, I felt obligated to watch it. Well done!

@jerekeya9910 Жыл бұрын

Filmento finally dabbling in the TV show universe. My time has come and I can finally rest in peace. You guys must continue your journey without me.

@darthdaenerys545 Жыл бұрын

the Serving girl has more emotion than the Galadriel of the whole season

@nagamata Жыл бұрын

Man that bit at 13:48 about people acting like people had me rejoicing. It’s so simple, but so many TV writers just can’t seem to manage it. When characters say, act, and react to things just to make plot points happen-that’s what I call bad writing. 🤝

@mrfreeman2911 Жыл бұрын

it takes a good writer. Not many of those exist.

@jasonpratt5126 Жыл бұрын

Two weeks later and the most replayed portion is the commercial. Legitimately well done! {g}

@aungtayzarhan7061 Жыл бұрын

Flimento's now talking about series! That's interesting!

@AJ-zg1nq Жыл бұрын

The most important reason is 'cause GRRM wrote an awesome story with a fantastic lore. HOTD is based on the book fire and blood which was written by the original writer of the series. That is why the writing is good and the show works. Tolkien's world building and lore is rich but lacks the original magic that he could have provided and the writers on the show are not on par with is. Just look at what D&D did with the last season of GOT. They butchered the outline 'cause they did not have GRRM's writing and his pacing to guide them. LOTR is supposed to be light vs dark, good vs evil and has very clear white and black sides which is what Tolkien wanted and it works brilliantly for his time meanwhile GRRM lowkey propelled morally corrupt characters and a world of brutality where no side is right and commit atrocities in the fantasy genre. There is no clear cut good guy in his stories and that is what people want these days. Take HOTD for example. Both the fractions are absolutely horrible and no one is doing anything for the actual people of the realm, their subjects. If they made the greens a clear cut cardboard villain and the blacks the feminist girl boss then it won't work. For the story to work, you need to find both sides compelling. The greens and the blacks conflict makes sense 'cause the dance was unavoidable and would have happened no matter what. You hate the characters yet defend them. Daemon and Aemond are absolute psychopaths who commit mass genocides yet are the fan favourite. They are the bad guys of both the fraction yet stand out. It's the complexities and nuances that stand out.

@BBCEmily Жыл бұрын

That ad transition was the SMOOTHEST I have ever seen...

@olympusthedarkone83 Жыл бұрын

Even after a masterpiece video like this, that flawlessly discusses why RoP doesn’t have the basic requirements for a compelling Pilot episode and people will still find a way to defend the show

@muhammadashshiddiq8752 Жыл бұрын

It's like when someone doesn't like food, customers are blamed and called sexist and called not like the food because it was made by a black female chef.

@mrowe6204 Жыл бұрын

Bro when you played that that clip of the fight with the mountain and called Nori “Frodette” I laughed out loud for a solid 2 minutes 😂 best video I’ve seen in awhile

@Centery_Clips Жыл бұрын

I love filmento. Even he can find clever ways to introduce something like a sponsor and make it feel natural

@majorknight859 Жыл бұрын

@jobsmine Жыл бұрын

Also i feel like the biggest problem ROP has is that it doesn’t know who their audience is. They can’t decided whether they’re writing the show for teens or adults.

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@colin3015 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think Viserys “killed” his wife… if I remember correctly, the maester told him she was going to die whether the child came out of her or didn’t.

@JoshTheHoffman Жыл бұрын

Correct in my opinion they should have knocked her unconscious before what they did.

@g.a2066 Жыл бұрын

He thinks he killed her and since then carried the guilt until literally his last breath, and thats what drove his actions and choices beyond that point. I think thats what really matters

@colin3015 Жыл бұрын

@@g.a2066 I don’t doubt Viserys feels responsible for his wife and his son but for Filmento to say he “murdered” his wife is a bit of a stretch.

@v33nod3 Жыл бұрын

He feels guilt because he made her bear another child due to his desire for a male heir. It's not because of the c-section.

@reginaphalange9417 Жыл бұрын

exactly, she was going to die either way, whether they took the baby out of her or not, at that time a cesarean meant death since the maester didn't know how to stop the hemorrhage, but Viserys' mistake was to impose his choice to his wife especially when it meant enormous suffering and death

@wyrose Жыл бұрын

Stopped watching RoP after ep five and HoD is so good im already rewatching it. So happy u made this

@dannypatrick9361 Жыл бұрын

LOVELY use of a 3rd Strike reference my friend.

@MilornDiester Жыл бұрын

I think it's not the problem with fantasy story vs human story but with generally poor execution of that fantasy. The thing with fantastic themes is that they should rather be used as a representation of universal truth than just a fancy addition to the "regular story". Although I really like HotD, I must admit that there is no reason for it to be fantasy, other than making series more spectacular and expensive. On the other hand, stories like LOTR couldn't be told in any other way that as a fantasy because they are about universal truth that don't manifest in such an obvious way in normal life. Yet still, they all feel very natural because we can almost instinctively acknowledge them as true. When we see the magic Ring that corrupts its user by offering them power, we just accept it because we know that that's how evil works. When we see Hobbits who go on an extremely painful journey in order to save the world, we accept that because we know that that's how the important things work - they need suffering in order to accomplish. So the difference between HotD and LOTR is the scope. The first one is about particular characters, the second one is about universal manifestation of human traits. The problem with the Rings of Power is that they don't do any of that things. The things are happening there just because the writer wanted them to happen. The characters don't resemble the particular character that we could meet in everyday life nor they are the manifestation of some greater ideas. There is a lot of fantasy elements but eventually they don't mean anything. They are just pretty pictures without any weight.

@MrPinguinzz Жыл бұрын

Rings of Power feels like an extended version of the "I don't like Sand" scene

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@No_name7474 Жыл бұрын

Boy filmento is doing series Let's goooooooooooooo

@elihinata1 Жыл бұрын

That ad transition was so clean xD

@moserfugger6363 Жыл бұрын

I really hope you'll do a follow-up on this video after you've watched the whole season(s)! "House of the Dragon" was such a refreshing surprise, it deserves the whole Filmento treatment. :) Greetings from Germany

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@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын

Rhaenyra's character threat in House of The Dragon: Pressured being the firstborn child of King Viserys and get chosen to be his heir and has to face that her best friend becomes her step mom and showing her rebel side to break the rules since teenager. Galadriel's character threat in Rings of Power: I'M An AnGRy WoMaN! LOok aT ME!

@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 Жыл бұрын

Almost like that’s the entire point🤷🏾. It’s understandable that Tolkien purists are upset with her characterisation, but for general audiences who are not heavily invested in the books, it’s an interesting choice and the beginning of a character arc that may payoff once she learns to set aside her pride and need to be in control.👍🏾

@charlesmcgill2974 Жыл бұрын

@@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 she’s a Mary Sue lmao all men depicted in the show are evil or incompetent men who know their place as the followers of the main women

@samcochran8203 Жыл бұрын

@@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 except that's something you set up a human character to do with their development, galadriel is a fucking elf, tolkien made elves to literally be an ethereal sort of being, with some of the best of them still failing to corruption, greed, pride, arrogance hell, even murder sometimss, but the focus was never or ever supposed to be on their failings, but rather how they persevered, resisted, and utterly fought back against the ultimate source and one responsible for sowing, fermenting, and breeding their evils, their failings and the ruination of their sacred blessed home and them as a people The elves and the elven characters Tolkien focused on at the point we see them in the lord of the rings, hell, even by the second age, they had had so many centuries if not thousands of years to work on the failings that landed them all on the shores of Middle earth in the first place, pride and paranoia for lack of control are some of the last things we should be seeing as the main focus of the character in how we the audience views their struggles

@margarethmichelina5146 11 ай бұрын

Well, I'm not familiar with LOTR books and lore but the way Galadriel's "rebel" in the show is so cringe to me. At least Rhaenyra showed how she rebels like a regular teenager since her younger version was a teenager but the way Galadriel rebels is totally cringe. She acts like knows-it-all, bossy, and think she can do better than any men and she's supposed to be a grown ass woman, how embarrasing. Then, I found that the writers of ROP have no idea about Tolkien in generals while HOTD have George R.R Martin as head writers so, they have more advantages.

@DdHenley307 Жыл бұрын

I think this went alot like Obi Wan where people didn't know what they were working with and just came up with a list of stuff that would look cool but then put little effort into making a good !n smart story around it

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@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын

you HAD to bring up the first episode of Westworld UGHHHH that first season was pure magic

@SeanKiernan420 Жыл бұрын

Loving the humour in your videos lately man had me laughing a lot!

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@Rolf97 Жыл бұрын

The easiest answer is that one franchise actively attacked fans and called them racist and sexist for pointing out where they diverted from the source material and made their main character unlikable and overpowered, and the other didn't.

@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын

So like the ST vs the PT and OT

@YourBlackLocal Жыл бұрын

Literally both called their fans racist.

@NeoFighterX Жыл бұрын

Cheapest answer

@Rolf97 Жыл бұрын

@@chasehedges6775 yup

@Rolf97 Жыл бұрын

@@YourBlackLocal really? I hadn't heard that from HotD but maybe it just got overshadowed by all the RoP drama.

@hblaub Жыл бұрын

My main difference: In HOD, I fear for the characters, for their life. In POR, I want them all to die, mostly brutally.

@ptptpt123 Жыл бұрын

This was very entertaining, especially the edits.

@shootnado Жыл бұрын

The video I've been waiting for. Finally, the master joins the conversation.

@jasoncaetano9708 Жыл бұрын

You should do a similar video for the Boys pilot episode, I only saw it on a whim but I immediately wanted to see more and I've heard a ton of critics say the same thing

@lesath7883 Жыл бұрын

7:40 Master class in segue. 10/10. Would watch on repeat.

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@daoberik Жыл бұрын

Filmento, you make the best sponsorship integration on youtube.

@alexarchambault46 Жыл бұрын

Great analysis once again. Plus a Norm McDonald shoutout... Man alive!

@lalithadavi4845 Жыл бұрын

I would love to hear your thoughts on black sails. Imo it is the best live action tv show ever.

@cassi94 Жыл бұрын

It feels like Rings of Power was more indulged in their massive budget and the picture quality that was rooted from it where as HotD feels well oiled and passionate with the character development. Daemon did more in one, dialogue-less scene then most shows and even film could ever do. I find myself feeling empathetic for the “villains”, and it’s crazy that the characters are so complex that yes, it’s obvious who is “villainous” and who isn’t quite, yet I still feel myself feeling for them because of how intricate they have been developed in 1 single season.

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