Why The Gray Man “Worked” where The 355 Failed

Why The Gray Man “Worked” where The 355 Failed | One v One

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The Gray Man is Netflix's new Bournelike action movie from the directors of Captain America and Avengers, starring Captain America Chris Evans and robot Ryan Gosling. Whether the movie overall is good or not is up for debate but as an action movie it is definitely an improvement over The 355, which tried and failed hard at the same earlier in 2022 as discussed in the video "The 355 - Why Hollywood's Female Action Films Flop". So today, let's compare the Gray Man to the action weaknesses of The 355 and see how it improves upon them.
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The Gray Man (2022)
Ryan Gosling is THE GRAY MAN and Chris Evans is his psychopathic adversary in the Netflix/AGBO spy thriller directed by Anthony and Joe Russo - available globally July 22 on Netflix. Also starring Ana de Armas, with Regé-Jean Page, Billy Bob Thornton, Jessica Henwick, Dhanush, Wagner Moura and Alfre Woodard. Based on the novel The Gray Man by Mark Greaney, the screenplay is by Joe Russo, Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely. THE GRAY MAN is CIA operative Court Gentry (Ryan Gosling), aka, Sierra Six. Plucked from a federal penitentiary and recruited by his handler, Donald Fitzroy (Billy Bob Thornton), Gentry was once a highly-skilled, Agency-sanctioned merchant of death. But The Gray Man watch full movie online free now bloopers ryan gosling v chris evans gray man prague fight scene shootout scene action scene only action gray man 2 gray man bad movie good movie fight scene gray man avengers everything wrong with the gray man now the tables have turned and Six is the target, hunted across the globe by Lloyd Hansen (Chris Evans), a former cohort at the CIA, who will stop at nothing to take him out. Agent Dani Miranda (Ana de Armas) has his back. He’ll need it.
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The 355 (2022)
Directed by Simon Kinberg, this spy thriller features Mace (Jessica Chastain), a wildcard type of CIA agent who decides to join forces with other spies to retrieve a top-secret weapon stolen by mercenaries planning to unleash global trouble. Since the weapon involves cyberspace knowhow, Mace convinces former MI6 British agent Khadijah (Lupita Nyong’o) to help since she’s a computer specialist. She also recruits Colombian psychologist Graciela (Penélope Cruz) and even a rival agent from Germany named Marie (Diane Kruger) to join the espionage team.

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@Filmento Жыл бұрын

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@benzayb13 Жыл бұрын

The audio is a bit low, innit?

@Filmento Жыл бұрын

@@benzayb13 low as in quiet or too bassy? thanks. Or do you mean the overall volume of the video?

@zachryder3150 Жыл бұрын

Your voice isn't loud enough this time. It was perfect previously, we're all here to listen to you.

@odeegrotsniffer4166 Жыл бұрын

Have you covered Kate? That movie had a specific female protagonist and was fucking awesome.

@Filmento Жыл бұрын

@@odeegrotsniffer4166 that was definitely one of the better ones yeah. I hope Bullet Train will be good too

@coconutologist Жыл бұрын

The Gray Man worked because it fully utilized the power of The Mustache.

@adammorello23 Жыл бұрын

you mean the trash stache, the whitepants it leans loyd.

@zachrion Жыл бұрын

Wait until someone releases the power of the Afro

@9Ratsel9 Жыл бұрын

@@zachrion Ooo...that would be... ballsy.

@enigma13ff Жыл бұрын

America's stache

@elly3359 Жыл бұрын

Hated that stache

@zachryder3150 Жыл бұрын

As someone who read the novel, I was very disappointed that the film didn't have in it the most American sentence ever written in 21st century fiction: "Inside was a Barrett M107, a fifty-caliber rifle that fired shells half the size of beer bottles and dispatched the heavy bullets with a muzzle velocity of nearly nine football fields a second."

@Imperials3nate Жыл бұрын

Is it still good regardless?

@minushuman Жыл бұрын

They will go to any length not to use meters

@hexagonshorts2186 Жыл бұрын

This one line makes me wanna fire a 50 cal so bad

@s1n-n3d Жыл бұрын

I read this and now I'm a pistol

@palleppalsson Жыл бұрын

But but shells are what shotguns fires.

@RjWolf3000 Жыл бұрын

The grey man does struggle with tone. its villain seems like he is from a Kingsmen movie which helps make the movie fun but undercuts the seriousness. Its definitely fun. And I loved some of the details. like 6 just trying to get some sleep for the last 1/3 of the movie. Which makes a lot of sense when a character has to do all these athletic feats in the middle of the night and then run away without a real chance to relax.

@misc4476 Жыл бұрын

Just to be honest, the first kingsman has a very fun villain , the second ones is bad , sam jackson kills it

@dammagrilla Жыл бұрын

I like the "struggle with tone", it feels more authentic to me in some ways and keeps it from getting too serious A lot of people use humor to mask other emotions and having a villain that's a little cartoonish can add color/flavor to what could otherwise feel too formulaic

@imanelsafy Жыл бұрын

I do agree that the villain’s personality made him a lot more entertaining, but the movie kind of did him dirty by showing him to be taken down so easily when he was shot in the ass. I get that this was part of him being a weak person that could only win by not playing fair, but it kind of served to make him a lot less threatening and made him seem like more of a joke. I still liked his character but he just seemed like a less effective villain overall as the movie progressed.

@dammagrilla Жыл бұрын

@@imanelsafy He got flanked by someone that wasn't supposed to be there so I didn't hold getting tranq'd against him in that situation I also think Lloyd was always supposed to be kind of a joke that you only take seriously because he's a psychopath... I mean just look at that mustache And the other CIA people don't seem terribly competent either, the 3 Harvard buddies mess up throughout the movie... it feels like the movie tried to show all of them were threatening because of the assets at their disposal rather than any of their individual skills

@imanelsafy Жыл бұрын

@@dammagrilla that’s fair

@metalbudsgaming8371 Жыл бұрын

It blows my mind that something film makers like James Cameron figured out 30+ years ago film makers today cant figure out. Want to make a good female lead movie? Don't make it patronizing. Nobody roots for Ripley because woman, nobody roots for Sarah Conner because woman, they root for them because they're relatable and fully fleshed out characters. And most importantly THEY'RE FLAWED. Flaws they have to OVERCOME. What a concept.

@Kraven83 Жыл бұрын

Sarah ConnOr

@flaviomonteiro1414 Жыл бұрын

Yep, well said buddy

@NessieNep Жыл бұрын

The Princess on Hulu is great if you want a solid female lead action film imho. :3

@RobertMorgan Жыл бұрын

Interesting to note as well, both of those classic heroines were opposed by non-people. Aliens for Ripley, and an AI created cyborg for Connor. Would we feel different about those characters if the threat was more personal? Like if instead of actual aliens, Ripley was fighting off human space refugees to survive, would we root for them the same way? Do these stand-in villains make a female lead 'look' or 'seem' better somehow?

@metalbudsgaming8371 Жыл бұрын

@@RobertMorgan Ripley was also fighting against those who wouldn't listen to her (The scientist Burke and Lieutenant Gorman). Hicks was pretty much the only one who did. Sarah was fighting those who wouldn't listen about the future. I'm sure being dismissed when you are actually right is a feeling ALOT of people can relate to.

@carsonkohler8765 Жыл бұрын

Something that I actually really like about Six's character is that he's pretty much always cool, calm, and collected no matter the severity of the situation he's in. I mean, at one point he gets pepper sprayed at point blank and doesn't even flinch. He'll give a grunt here and there but other than that he's a brick wall, which in most cases would make for a bad character but for him specifically I think it actually works. Six's nonchalant attitude to everything is a cool character trait that the Russo brothers really hammer home. It even ties in with his back story, with Six's father constantly testing his resolve and making him into the "robot" that he has become, hence the cigarette burn flashback.

@hellomynameispauline Жыл бұрын

I hated that backstory so much.

@psilon6999 Жыл бұрын

12:00 that's not Germany, it's Czech Republic/Czechia fun fact: nearly every foreign scene is shot in Czech Republic instead of the country mentioned in the movie... even the beginning Thailand scene.

@easternlights3155 Жыл бұрын

I knew those tram seats looked familiar!

@antoninnovak5074 Жыл бұрын

I was scroling throught the comments and I feared that no one have noticed that Prague is not in Germany

@3plecheeseburger Жыл бұрын

Oh you mean the beginning Thailand scene?

@psilon6999 Жыл бұрын

@@3plecheeseburger oh the irony Corrected thanks

@Hanmacx Жыл бұрын

Thanks i was wondering why the cars weren't "Polizei"

@Becvar80 Жыл бұрын

Another thing The Gray Man does right is NOT stopping to over explain things. So many movies would have added dialog of the pilot saying he has to drop altitude to get to air with more oxygen, but TGM just assumes the viewer knows why the plane dives. There are other instances, and I loved that it didn't treat me like I'm stupid.

@Kraven83 Жыл бұрын

so glad you explained it, I didn't make the connection while watching, frankly.

@Selrisitai Жыл бұрын

Why would it be good for the director to assume I know something esoteric about airplanes? XD Shouldn't they at least IMPLY it somewhere?

@PittsburghSonido 4 ай бұрын

Tgm has its fair share of over explaining plot details though. Too much exposition.

@Iamhassentme Жыл бұрын

The gray man was a bit of a mess. I'm glad you spotted that Ryan Gosling has basically stopped acting in movies.

@dangerfly Жыл бұрын

A box cutter kills Four with one stab, but Six gets a butterfly knife in the back and spine and shrugs it off. So dumb.

@soppe2931 Жыл бұрын

@@dangerfly If u watch the movie again, he said the indian does stab him and it doesnt took the critical part inside his body, thats why he's mostly alive. And we know that he's good too thats why also we see he one shot or just basically shoot one or two bullet just to kill people whereas others cant kill him even with anything. Basically showing plot armour but u can also think that this people are amateurs as Six said

@dangerfly Жыл бұрын

@@soppe2931 I'm talking about the first and last fight. Dhanush stabs him in the hand and side, not the BACK.

@badman_iiixiii 2 ай бұрын

It sucks because I started watching all these action oriented Ryan Gosling movies after watching him in Blade Runner 2049 haha Still looking forward to The Fall Guy

@highwind1991 Жыл бұрын

This is honestly the first positive thing I have seen anybody say about this film lol

@MrZyLeXx Жыл бұрын

Watched a review from a few Military guys n they loved it(they usually don't). Movie was alright IMO, just a netflix movie

@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg Жыл бұрын

@fatui harbingers. NO.

@misc4476 Жыл бұрын

Seen reviews from a lot of people , apparently everybody likes this film ,

@ZeonEons Жыл бұрын

Yeah it bombed hard. Only afew will like big, loud and brainless

@15Candles Жыл бұрын

@@misc4476 I think many people enjoyed it but not as much as they wanted too, like people expected it a lot more. Not like "Mad Max Fury Road" crazy love which that movie was ten times better than this

@irshadtyo Жыл бұрын

I’m probably in the minority but I really liked The Gray Man because the movie understood what it was doing and didn’t take itself too seriously. Not only that the action was solid, the cast was pretty good and script was ehh. But it’s a summer blockbuster movie done right. I’m glad Netflix actually made a good action movie. I liked Triple Frontier which was also by Netflix. Most action movies done by Netflix fall off by the 3rd act. But The Gray Man kept up with itself so I’m glad it’s getting a bigger universe in the future

@ogrimzyz8643 Жыл бұрын

You’re not in the minority. Audience reviews for the gray man are over 90%

@RSG_TheMonster Жыл бұрын

Extraction was also another great Russo Bros. Netflix Action film.

@kaimargonar1000 Жыл бұрын

The dialogue with the bubble gum thing is weird. I hope it gets better later on. They still have books to adapt.

@The__Mutt Жыл бұрын

Bro I loved it

@scottgodfrey7118 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I thought it was pretty good over all. And as for the villain being cartoonish, how cartoonish is he in this world?

@montu8756 Жыл бұрын

That Indian Asset is "Dhanush" . An Indian actor who is great at what he does.. Hope to see him more in the Sequel ...

@T3AMCXMCHUCK Жыл бұрын

I thought it was unfortunate you kinda glossed over the cia boss lady character, she's kinda good but at the same time you see that she is only doing the thing she does in her own interest, though that character could've been more expanded upon, hopefully if a sequel comes up she'll be the main antagonist then.

@JBoxy7 Жыл бұрын

At first you think shes alright because she gets out down by lloyd and the other guy but then at the end you kinda realize that she is also s terrible person, using the girl as leverage over 6

@marcusestacio8707 Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for him to mention her in the “Gray Between” section. She obviously has lines that she didn’t want to cross but ol captain America made her cross which I thought was a super interesting obstacle. It made me wonder what she would end up deciding by the end of this all.

@mode4801 Жыл бұрын

You really think that she was good? I saw her more as a pushover who constantly complained but had no problem reaping the benefits of what others were doing. In the end of the movie, she wanted to seem kind of tough by bragging how she has control over 6 and how he should have been intimated by her. Only to show that she was completely wrong and 6 was just waiting until he got his health back. I watched the movie in Spanish, so the translation may have had a role in the way I see her character.

@JBoxy7 Жыл бұрын

@@mode4801 you initially feel bad for her because she gets shoved around but by the end you realize she is also a horrible person

@T3AMCXMCHUCK Жыл бұрын

@@mode4801 I do think she's underutilised and useless for most of the movie but I found interesting the fact that she's built up into a fairly straightforward "good" character but ends up just doing whatever suits her, the last few minutes of the movie really gave me an itch to see more of her.

@theonlybigmorg Жыл бұрын

this film was enjoyable, it wasn't the best, but it wasn't as bad as people say. it was good enough for me that i will be watching the sequel. I just want them to do the action better, there was too many cuts, weird camera angles, and they seemed to hide the action by as much smoke, fireworks, or dark setting as possible.

@dammagrilla Жыл бұрын

"Looking forward to" is a little strong for me but it was definitely enjoyable and I would definately watch the sequel

@stringer2295 Жыл бұрын

Yea I enjoyed it but the terrible script and awful ending made it bad

@macnmemes1131 Жыл бұрын

@@stringer2295 Whats wrong with the ending? just curious

@stringer2295 Жыл бұрын

@@macnmemes1131 I hope you didn’t see it but the fight at the end was unnecessary and anti climatic

@theonlybigmorg Жыл бұрын

@@dammagrilla yeah I didn't phrase that right, i meant I will be watching the sequel, but I'm not really excited

@dammagrilla Жыл бұрын

I love action movies where the protagonist gets hurt during the course of the movie but this one took it WAY to the extreme IMO He was basically a Terminator throughout the movie, the amount of damage he took and kept going with minimal medical attention was a little distracting

@ZeonEons Жыл бұрын

He dodged rocket missiles and his both legs should of been broken when he fell into the pit. Also should have been cut in half on top of the tram. And that's just the highlights

@kcharleyjk123 Жыл бұрын

I read the book to see how different they were and Six in the book was way too OP. Im glad they made Six in the movie much more human and he at least got help from another agent

@dbixoye1 Жыл бұрын

Not as bad as John wick 💀

@dammagrilla Жыл бұрын

@@dbixoye1 Yeah, the end of the last one with him getting shot off the roof was too much for me...

@ahmadjewett7496 Жыл бұрын

Maybe they are secretly hiding the fact that he's actually a black widow

@mt_baldwin Жыл бұрын

Grey man is the concept of being a plain person that doesn't stand out and is easy to forget about. Ironically for the film biz, according the grey concept you'd want your spies to look like typical character actors and not like leading man/woman actors, so like Paul Giamatti and Dylan Baker and not Matt Damon or Ryan Gosling.

@EGRJ Жыл бұрын

Matt Damon doesn't look like a stereotypical movie star to me. He looks like Some Guy, or Some Dad. Even in Bourne 1, he looks like a random American backpacker. He looked more conventionally handsome in Mr Ripley, but there that was the actual point.

@charlesadams41 Жыл бұрын

Dylan Baker is perfect--I had to "search" him to know who he was :)

@ririp5865 Жыл бұрын

Suzanne was also a nuanced character who showed traits of being both good and bad.

@Romir0s Жыл бұрын

I'd say that this movie might feel like Bourne rip-off, but cinematic-wise it's much closer to Korean blockbusters. "A super killer went rouge to protect a girl" is a theme in Korean action movies that was explored deeply since "The Man from Nowhere", so I recommend you to watch some. Especially, because they have a top tier fighting choreography, because actors there can actually fight. And what do you mean "to start a franchise"? Isn't it a prequel to The Driver, lol?

@TheMindofagenius1 Жыл бұрын

dude The Man From Nowhere IS A BANGER movie!!! I watched it twice back in the day and I RARELY go out of my way to watch any movie more than once! The choreography in Korean fighting movies are just S-tier! It's not related to this nor is an action/fighting movie but, have you seen a movie called Guns and Talks?

@emekos_ Жыл бұрын

No its a drive sequal. Killing Bernie in the parking lot is why he was in prison in the first place

@JstJaybeingJay Жыл бұрын

Do you mean the very popular movie starring Ryan Gosling "Drive" or the old movie "the driver".

@samuraijosh1595 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMindofagenius1 and yet Hollywood doesn't give badass roles like the lone wolf to Korean men...why is that? The Russos' shared in an interview that they picked Dhanush (the actor playing lone wolf who's kicking Ryan's and Ana's ass) cuz he had such good fight scenes in his Indian movies. The Russos have probably watched a lot more Korean movies than Indian ones and yet they never gave an Asian man a badass role.

@TheMindofagenius1 Жыл бұрын

@@samuraijosh1595 I'm...... not sure I understand what you mean? I couldn't know why the Russo's never gave a badass role to an Asian man, but that just seems like it's **their** loss. But there HAS been precedents where there's an Asian badass in a Hollywood movie, the only one i can think of at the top of my head is G.I JOE (not the BEST movie for an example i know, but it still stands as one), and iirc one of the Red movies.... there definitely was a badass Korean dude, he was SO badass he's basically the highlight of the movie because I remember nothing BUT the fact there was a badass Korean dude in it, so.... yeah.

@normalhuman6260 Жыл бұрын

One thing you'll notice about Avik Sen's character is that he has never killed till now. He shoots the police in the leg. He uses only hand to hand combat and non lethal weapons. And even in the last fight, was trying to get Ana de Armas to pass out.

@HUMAN-fq5ff Жыл бұрын

I’ll admit that "The Gray Man" had a lot of narrative issues and a few unrealistic action sequences. But despite its flaws I really enjoyed the movie. Definitely looking forward to the sequel.

@KennethWrites Жыл бұрын

Agree with most of this, but also: The Gray Man felt like a $200 million action film directed by the Russo Brothers, while The 355 felt like a $75 million action film directed by the guy who's only other movie directing credit was X-Men: Dark Phoenix. The Gray Man was written by the guy who wrote Captain America :Winter Soldier. The 355 was written by the guy who wrote X-Men Apocalypse and 2015's Fantastic Four.

@eldonbadie7765 Жыл бұрын

And Dark Phoenix.

@sihlerumo Жыл бұрын

Hey Filmento, I wonder what are your thoughts on 'Everthing everywhere all at once' and if there is a breakdown soon to come. i feel there's so much to cover about that movie. First, how to explore and go all out with a unique concept that stands out with Vers-Jumping till Evelyn can literally see all events in the multiverse happen at once and it's multiverse aspect (it was more multiverse madness than Dr. Strange, the hotdog finger universe & rock universe were wild as hell). Themes of life and it's ups and downs (the choices we make and how we relish or regret some but learn to appreciate the little things). Also it shows Hollywood how to properly write a female lead and female antagonist (who happens to be is LGBT+ but not in a virtu signaling way but written as a competent three dimensional character/ individual that I can invest or sympathize to rather than a political stereotype, which imo, is a better approach at representing people in film this way) as well as having diversity with competent writing that makes people invest in the world and it's characters. 10/10 movie, imo.

@JJFlashDog Жыл бұрын

he mostly looks at bad or disappointing movies, so no need to visit EEAAO

@hendrygiandynantheo2324 Жыл бұрын

@@JJFlashDog but... Film Perfection?

@gtb5 Жыл бұрын

One of the most overrated movies of all time.

@TheMindofagenius1 Жыл бұрын

@@gtb5 "has a LGBTA~Z character".... I can indeed see why🙄

@syafranmuflih7139 Жыл бұрын

@@gtb5 Overrated??? Did you even watch the movie???

@rubydoo3307 Жыл бұрын

I watched the Grey Man for Dhanush, but I was surprised at hoe much fun we had at the cinema. We didn't feel like the ticket wasn't worth buying. The movie wasn't perfect, but enough fun to make you forget it. 355 though? I couldn't enjoy it.

@SignalFlowers Жыл бұрын

I thought Dhanush would be given a typical Indian person role in a Hollywood movie, a guy who just deals with crooks and low level characters, but in The Grey Man, he fights Ryan Gosling and Ana De Armas together, beats them, then fights Ana De Armas again, beats her again ! WOW ! He didn't have much lines in the movie but I enjoyed seeing his performance. The Russos said they're making a sequel to The Grey Man and Dhanush's character will definitely return.

@vagabondsoul1286 Жыл бұрын

In the books, Sierra 6, real name Courtland Gentry, has only one defining character trait early on in the series, which is a moral compass ill-suited for an assassin. He has as much personality as a brick wall otherwise.

@bobby530 Жыл бұрын

Wow a movie about the government turning on its own agent, what a unique idea that I’ve never seen before.

@sahdsalmi3935 Жыл бұрын

What!!! Wbt Bourne series, James bond agents , mission impossible etc..

@PunitRaj Жыл бұрын

@@sahdsalmi3935 sarcasm it was Dumbo

@areebjunaid1505 Жыл бұрын

@@sahdsalmi3935 ever hear of sarcasm buddy?

@sahdsalmi3935 Жыл бұрын

@@areebjunaid1505 sorry

@elihlecele5972 Жыл бұрын

@@sahdsalmi3935 r/woosh

@jestergodfield690 Жыл бұрын

I liked it, and it was a nice twist to watch the protagonist actually struggle and fail at times. We may perceive the MC as cool and brooding but everyone else treats him like the quiet awkward and unassuming guy he seems like.

@typicalbootss586 Жыл бұрын

i liked the grey man, it kept it fairly light hearted and fun while still trying to be like "ooo secret agents, corruption". i think the only scene that i couldnt suspend my disbelief for was the massive fight scene with all the different agents and teams. i just though that was a little ridiculous but i still watched it laughin as ryan gosling is trying to get out of his situation

@SeaGLGaming Жыл бұрын

I thought Dani (Ana) actually had a good mix of morality. She wasn't helping Six solely to be good. She only rescued Six in the first place to try to prove her innocence. To do that, she needed that encrypted data, and her best shot to get it was to help Six find the girl by tracking her pacemaker knowing she was held by Lloyd. Six's only goal was to protect Claire so he went to rescue her while Dani's goal was to prove her innocence against the CIA so she created the distraction and went after the data. I also really liked Suzanne's character. For most of the movie, she seemed like she wanted to do good, that the CIA was going too far to cover everything up, and she was caught in the middle cleaning up a mess that wasn't hers. Then in the end, she sees an opportunity to advance her career forcing Six to continue to serve the CIA by holding Claire against him. Outside of Lloyd, I thought she was the most interesting character. I really enjoyed The Grey Man. Wasn't the best action movie, but it set out with a goal and did it well. Action, while a bit over the top at times, did a great job at constantly raising the stakes. The plot wasn't terribly interesting, but the amazing acting with interesting characters combined with the fantastic action kept me focused. Definitely no Bourne or Mission Impossible though. Hope to see a sequel with Suzanne as the main antagonist.

@AmySavage6 Жыл бұрын

She was a well done character, a real company woman. If I recall correctly she didn't have trouble so much with the unethical actions themselves but rather how much they will harm American intelligence efforts. Hopefully they don't pull a lazy one in the sequel and make the elusive "Old Man" the antagonist, he should remain in the background. It could serve as an interesting source of friction within the baddie camp if Suzannes handling of the first movie would see the backing she receives from the old man go up, thereby creating tensions between her and Carmichael.

@franciscoitehua9607 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy your overall take on this film, and agree with all your arguments. Even the ones on Ana De Armas , But the reason I enjoy this female character is that she gets the shit beat out . when she has to fight against stronger(male) characters, and despite that she still keeps on trying, even though her odds of winning are low . An element other films don't have the balls to do. So what the writers do to make the overall playing feel even. Is while she might not be physically strong she's is a great marksman.

@DuduCosmin Жыл бұрын

I'm fairly sure "Grey Man" refers to ability to bland in, and it's not about his morals Funny enough, it's actually kinda who you are describing, someone easy to forget Altho I think it's more so someone you don't even notice to begin with, someone you don't even know is there, who leaves no trace, which is a good chunk of the skill set he has in this movie

@ZeonEons Жыл бұрын

Which we see the opposite of in this movie

@Dave1507 Жыл бұрын

When he's not wearing a bright red suit, that is...

@DuduCosmin Жыл бұрын

@@Dave1507 I actually saw that bit as a good example of that concept Because it's not really about actually being grey, but fitting in The people around him at the time were brightly colored so he had to do the same to bland in The execution of that kinda takes a nose dive after, overall he really didn't do well, but that part was actually ok in my eyes

@Dave1507 Жыл бұрын

@@DuduCosmin it's about being almost not noticed, and that's still hard to do in that suit imo. But the biggest problem for me was that they mashed two books together and threw in a couple figures that were in neither of those books.

@strongerchood Жыл бұрын

And this is why I stay subscribed to you. You know your storytelling craft. I take a lot from these videos and make my graphic novels better. Thank you for existing.

@unreachablesecretary Жыл бұрын

Yeah, tbh every vid of his does give a ton of insight into how to improve with personal writing proyects. I really appreciate how Filmento keeps on teaching storytelling!!

@metalbudsgaming8371 Жыл бұрын

I do the same! I've learned a great deal from his channel and applied it to my own story telling.

@deadlyrobot5179 Жыл бұрын

I'm interested in writing, and every time he puts out a video I learn a lot of new stuff.

@Nostalgia_Addict Жыл бұрын

I didn't watch 355 because i knew it'd be bad. But i really wanted to enjoy another Ryan Gosling movie, expected it to be amazing, but i ended up disliking The Gray Man a lot. It was very predictable, full of action movie tropes, the action itself was cartoonishly unrealistic & unbelievable and everything it does has been done so many times before in better action movies. The characters aren't well written either. The movie makes it obvious that the protagonists have immense plot armor, which kills any suspense or sense of threat. The villain is very incompetent, his minions are incompetent, the action choreography is bad as well. If the protagonist, while standing in the open, shoots fatal shots with every bullet from a handgun, meanwhile armoured, armed to the teeth & well positioned henchmen with automatic rifles can't hit the protagonist even once... I mean what is this movie.. I really regretted watching this movie. What a waste of time.

@misc4476 Жыл бұрын

The gray man works .... more cause of its star power , a bad russo brothers film with ryan gosling , chris Evans , ana de armas , dhanush , is gonna sell itself ......it's a fun ride but isn't that good , most people I see say they liked this film, glad to have found someone who shares the same feeling

@hazyworld8626 Жыл бұрын

@@misc4476 Honestly I thought it was alright. Not bad, but not good. Just alright, it's watchable.

@motherplayer Жыл бұрын

It sucks too, because I like some of the ideas in-between the lines like inter-compartmental fighting and the dick measuring contest of who is more competent or the value of one really good agent compared to a bunch of easy to move drone soldiers and such, but it's all put together under a banner of overbearing action and quips that it fights against the interesting stuff.

@emerson2149 Жыл бұрын

Can't believe it's getting a sequel

@Nostalgia_Addict Жыл бұрын

@@misc4476 Yeah man. Maybe it was my high expectations that ruined the experience. Just a week or so before watching The Gray Man i had re-watched Drive, The Nice Guys and Blade Runner 2049. I guess i went in looking for a unique experience in this movie as well.

@Godpk11 Жыл бұрын

I recently watched the movie and I loved it. The plot is simple, linear, easy to follow and the action is pretty good. They even have a strong female character written right, crazy! I love Gosling in almost anything, he def can do total action scenes. The plot is decent and ending was predictable but still a good movie.

@rubber89 Жыл бұрын

Movie was ass u trippin

@Godpk11 Жыл бұрын

@@rubber89 Not gonna bash opinions. You don't like it then you don't have to. Chill out.

@rubber89 Жыл бұрын

@@Godpk11 not a good movie tho

@ogrimzyz8643 Жыл бұрын

@@rubber89 it was decent. I don’t care what u think

@rubber89 Жыл бұрын

@@ogrimzyz8643 You dickeating the movie it was ass

@samlar6372 Жыл бұрын

That was the smoothest ad transition I've ever seen. I watched the whole thing just because I was so blindsided by it. Good job.

@marconotonfacebook3480 Жыл бұрын

It might have been better than 355 (and I think it is) but it still is forgettable. Compare the Gray Man with a single episode of the Terminal List and it just proves that great writers still exist.

@ZeonEons Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. I don't think comparing one bad movie to another is credible. Otherwise, we could compare 355 to a bad movie than what that is and pick out stuff that makes it work, than its inferior counterpart and so forth Both movies don't work and are just as bad in different ways.

@GeorgeVenturi Жыл бұрын

This movie is as terrible as The 355, just a different kind of terrible.

@Cash_Drizzy Жыл бұрын

Got to admit probably the smoothest transition into an ad on KZfaq yet, had me in the first half didn't know if it was an ad or part of the video.

@dragonskunkstudio7582 Жыл бұрын

I love when a movie makes me ask: "How is our hero gonna get out of this one?"

@aaronjoseph1144 Жыл бұрын

filmento's videos never fail on teaching me and making me laugh with the editing

@papaconhuevos7646 Жыл бұрын

you make alot of good points of things that COULD have been explored in the grey man. BUT they can STILL be explored. sometimes its too much too fit into a movie runtime. and hopefully they do make this a series and atleast address the things you state, because you got some great ideas

@chimz8057 Жыл бұрын

Aw hell, every month I can't wait until your next video comes out, like an addiction. Channels that focus on the Bad as much (or even more) than the Good stuff is rare and important, because everyone else is just focusing on the good things. Channels like yours help to balance that and actually reveal what the flaws are and how they can be improved.

@raiderknight8194 Жыл бұрын

As a person who has read several Gray Man books and is still going through them I wasn’t really a fan of the movie overall and skipped out half way through it. I could explain in a five paragraph essay why the movie is highly more inferior to the book but I won’t, all I’ll say is read it yourselves and then rewatch the film then you’ll see what I mean. It was a disservice to the first book and makes me wish that Mark Greaney had gotten a TV adaptation deal for his book series like Carr, Child and Ennis have. Amazon may suck balls for their fantasy genre shows but Reacher and The Terminal List prove that they are highly competent and serious about their action thriller’s, especially when they prove that by always ensuring the authors themselves have a significant role in the production of the adaptation. Anyway that’s all I have to say on this topic and now I am going to reread the first book to try wash this film out of my head.

@GeorgeVenturi Жыл бұрын

Haven't read the books but agreed with the rest.

@100gecsrbetterthangod5 Жыл бұрын

Just about every single movie that came from a book is worse than the book. That is known.

@Old_Scot 2 ай бұрын

Almost all movies are inferior to the books, though, aren't they?

@TS-kf2nc Жыл бұрын

The most unrealistic part of the movie was riding a tuktuk that runs on batteries from Bangkok to Chiangmai in, presumably, one night without being pulled over by police and not being crashed/smashed by a ten wheeler truck.

@michaelmayo Жыл бұрын

That was absoluely the best slide into a Surfshark ad I've ever seen. Smart video too. Grey Man is the best popcorn movie I've seen in awhile. Looking forwards to the next.

@BlackbirdSJ Жыл бұрын

They Gray Man did not work. I thought it was extremely choppy and generic with no character

@randomanimefan96 Жыл бұрын

Yes. The title felt disconnected with the movie. I couldn't figure out who is the Grey Man. After this video, I think the Indian actor Dhanush is the real Grey Man.

@INeedToSeeYourBalls1945 Жыл бұрын

Grey Man was the another name to the Sierra program. Sierra Six along with Sierra Four (and however many Sierras there were) were all "Grey Men". They got sent to do the stuff the CIA couldnt do themselves due to certain rules laws. And Dhanush was just another hitman/gun for hire. Six was the Grey Man referred to in the title.

@randomanimefan96 Жыл бұрын

@@INeedToSeeYourBalls1945 I get that. All Sierra members are considered as Grey Man. But what I am saying is personality wise, who could be the Grey Man. Like, a Grey Man can be considered as someone who is neither White (Good) nor Black (Evil). Someone who is in-between (Grey). Get it.!!

@LordMaric Жыл бұрын

6 got into the Sierra Program because of his 'ability to know bad and desire to act against it', the entire plot of the movie is that 'CIA went bad so 6 have to act against it'. Making him have morally questionable actions at the start wouldn't be an arc since the writters would be undoing what they just defined for the character. He does however, through the girl, change as the movie happens but it's hard to see because 6 is already way more human than the 'Usual Terminator Action Spy/Hero'.

@willhibbard6903 Жыл бұрын

This has to be the smoothest ad Segway I’ve seen by far. Greta job! Also, awesome video as always

@Mikhael366 Жыл бұрын

I like how you incorporate ads into your monologue. You make me not want to skip them. very nice.

@Zombiesnyder13 Жыл бұрын

I still expected more from the Russo Brothers

@JugglernautNr9 Жыл бұрын

Where did "The Gray Man" work? Sorry, but this movie was quite nonsensical. Ryan Gosling should star in good films again.

@nines2566 Жыл бұрын

the transition into the surfshark ad was so smooth.

@OccupiedMuffins Жыл бұрын

That ad placement was incredible

@sarahb.7175 Жыл бұрын

As a woman, I want to say I really appreciate your commentary on why The 355 didn't work. Admittedly, I didn't see it, but I've noticed time and again the attitude seems to be, "Let's take a male dominated genre, make it all-female, and do nothing else to make it compelling and distinct because we just need more women!" It makes me feel sooo patronized. Like they just assume I'll watch any movie with a female cast and not care about its quality.

@samuraijosh1595 Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's so infuriating. Even in the gray man, Ana de armas didn't come off as those annoying wannabe-men character but she was still pretty much useless and any female actor could've played her character in grey man.

@will_of_europa Жыл бұрын

Nobody with Bob Odenkirk was a fantastic action film. He is sort of a retired Bourne character. Had a lot of hearth and great action.

@brianmain8386 Жыл бұрын

That ad transition was pretty smooth my dude

@LegacyArts. Жыл бұрын

Smoothest sponsoring transition I have ever seen. Hots off to you sir!

@pduidesign Жыл бұрын

Me reading title “why Gray Man worked with 355 didn’t” 1. Because Anna De Armas was realistic in her action scenes. She got her ass kicked but held her own as best she could. She didn’t take down 200+ lb men. 2. Because in the Grey man the heroes could actually hit their shots whereas in the 355 they couldn’t hit the side of a barn. 3. The women in 355 were annoying as f*ck and in the Grey Man Anna De Armas is awesome! 4. 355 didn’t have Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans, each have more magnetism than the entire cast of 355. 5. Anna De Armas and Ryan Gosling’s character worked as a team. …to be fair I turned off 355 about midway through.

@benzayb13 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely loved the Gray Man. Happy to see you're covering this one Edit: Alright I'm kinda disappointed coz you didn't cover Suzanne much in this video... I thought she was one of the most interesting characters in the movie. Other than that, very great points, very great video.

@scaredchalk Жыл бұрын

Editing was above your par in this one :)

@trailblazing92 Ай бұрын

Dude I love the way you edit your videos. You make me laugh while at the same time getting your point across. And quite good points they are. Thanks for what you do!!!

@tomtim9764 Жыл бұрын

Haven´t watched the video yet but I did not expect Filmento praising The Gray Man in any kind of way lol

@TheMindofagenius1 Жыл бұрын

These videos always make me want to rewatch the entire Bourne Trilogy again! (yes "trilogy", the last movie is aight, but definitely not on par with with the first three)

@storyxmonstrrr Жыл бұрын

Filmento KING of the ad transition!!!!

@GeorgeVenturi Жыл бұрын

Did you notice too? Two ads in one video. One for a Netflix movie and the other thing that I skipped as fast as I could,

@storyxmonstrrr Жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeVenturi i mean the Surfshark ad. it is soooo seamless most don't even notice. lol

@the1thomaster912 Жыл бұрын

That was a very well integrated ad. Nicely done

@andykww Жыл бұрын

Hey Filmento, will you do a breakdown on what makes Everything Everywhere All at Once a unique film?

@sihlerumo Жыл бұрын

True. There's so much to cover about that movie. First how to explore and go all out with a special concept that stands out with Vers-Jumping and the multiverse aspect (it was more multiverse madness than Dr. Strange). Themes of life and it's ups and downs (the choices we make and how we relish or regret some but learn to appreciate the little things). Also it shows Hollywood how to properly write a female lead and female antagonist (who happens to be is LGBT+ but not in a virtu signaling way but write them as a competent three dimensional character/ individual rather than a political stereotype, which imo, is a better approach at representing people in film this way) as well as having diversity with competent writing that makes people invest in the world and it's characters. 10/10 movie, imo.

@vahidfarahani5142 Жыл бұрын

It's great because of one thing. Hotdog fingers. That shit still haunts me.

@johnjamesedwards3349 Жыл бұрын

The Gray Man worked thanks to Marvel’s Russo brothers, who always know how to make blockbuster movies even after Endgame. Now they are hoping to reclaim their position in the MCU.

@silhouettefilms. Жыл бұрын

One of your best vids. The Barbosa edit broke me.

@KurosakiNaturo Жыл бұрын

That segue into the ad spot was pretty good, ngl.

@LeonardoKlotz Жыл бұрын

Chris Evans was very one-dimensional in this movie

@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg Жыл бұрын

@Rare one NO.

@samuraijosh1595 Жыл бұрын

Right?? Idk what's filemento's on about. He tries too hard to pull off a believably intimidating sociopath character.

@alanuzcategui2591 Жыл бұрын

After watching the movie a couple of times, I think it really is great spy film. It's specially great for people who want to start watching Ryan Gosling movies, as this is his most mainstream role yet, he also still has his amazing subtle charm of his past jobs. I'd say whatever Netflix payed to get Ryan, Chris and Ana De Armas was worth it, becuase their acting for sure elevates a project that might be average or below without them. The action set pieces also have been the main selling point for the Russo brothers, and when you start counting and waiting for the next thrilling moment, it actually becomes clear that this movie has more action then most out there, which is what makes it extremely fun! I think it's great.

@ZeonEons Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't recommend this. He's done far better work. This is dribble

@selectionn Жыл бұрын

do people really watch movies just because a certain person is in it? either way that guy was in way better movies if you wanna obsess over him, like drive I think it was called.

@RealFableFox Жыл бұрын

@@selectionn kinda. providing support help the actor/actress get more project.

@malkavianchild5281 Жыл бұрын

Bro that ad transition was clean

@zaarashaikh2843 Жыл бұрын

Loved your insights regarding how action movies tend to make the characters absolutely good or absolutely evil, to the point that even the relatively “bad” things they do are so insignificant compared to their “good guy” actions that the audience shrugs it off as casually as the characters themselves. On the other hand I do believe this could work on characters who are so unique that you don’t really need to flesh them out in that aspect. Like Loyd in the movie, I believe it is more appropriate for his character for him to be how he is just so. He’s a psycho who enjoys inflicting pain and torture because that’s what he likes and that’s why he is in this line of work. He has no personal reasons for his actions. He is not personally invested in the mcguffin but goes after Six as aggressively as if he is, because that’s what he was hired to do and because he enjoys fighting Six.

@peterfrank3365 Жыл бұрын

Maybe this movie should've leaned more into '90s Hong Kong action flicks than another 'Bourne'-esque movie. Wolf and Lloyd resemble Mad Dog and Johnny Wong from 'Hard Boiled' anyway.

@WooliteMammoth Жыл бұрын

Eh when comparing the two I can see how the Gray Man is better, but let's be honest. It's not a great movie. It's more that 355 is a really bad one.

@GeorgeVenturi Жыл бұрын

Touché!! Surprised this video wasn´t sponsored by Netflix itself.

@easymentality Жыл бұрын

8:30 shout out to Mac Quayle and his music for MR. ROBOT. I used to blast that OST while studying, and I still love it.

@NWOslave Жыл бұрын

i couldnt help but think of The Terminal List on amazon while you were talking about grey areas for characters.

@boizen Жыл бұрын

What Hollywood needs to do is be realistic. I hate female led action movies or female protagonists in action movies. This is cause in reality no single women can take down 5 to 6 big masculine men or an entire army. BUT!!! instead of making female led action movies why not make a drama movie about a women who showed cooperate who's boss and took over a company coz of her big brain or a female who becomes the first something. Honestly that would make me respect females more than seeing them carry a gun and unrealistically beat 10 men all at once.

@utkarshpatil7356 Жыл бұрын

I can guarantee any women can kick you a##

@nonope2207 Жыл бұрын

You know that joke they say about white people whose wildest, spiciest food they like is mayonnaise? That's what I felt like watching The Gray Man. The absolute most generic movie I've ever witnessed in 30 years of sentient life (4 years as non-sentient).

@saptaksarkar30468 Жыл бұрын

You are quite in sync with me dude !!! This Sunday I watched this movie and when I watched Doctor Strange 2, you released your video on it 3 days later !!! NICE

@sera_sarzad Жыл бұрын

Your videos aren't appearing on my KZfaq feed again, Filmento. Good thing I have the bell on.

@trehubb6144 Жыл бұрын

355 really had potential. But when watching it I could not believe they really thought some of the scenes really would have worked.

@cburg Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people shitting on the gray man went in expecting some James Bond level movie. It's not that, it never wanted to be. It's a movie you can just switch off your brain and have a laugh at whilst chris evans and ryan gosling do what they do best.

@h.ar.2937 Жыл бұрын

Actually the problem is that the movie DOES take itself seriously

@motherplayer Жыл бұрын

@@h.ar.2937 People still equate dialogue with characters who joke a lot means that we shouldn't take anything seriously. Sad that that mentality is still strong in the blockbuster.

@mozozky Жыл бұрын

finally another upload!

@josh-qj2zu Жыл бұрын

I love how you put worked in quotation marks

@coitusergosum2447 Жыл бұрын

Literally just finished watching this movie on Netflix like 10 minutes before posting this comment. You, sir, are a mind reader

@vaclavmajer5488 Жыл бұрын

that Germany is Prague in Czech republic

@KidFresh71 Жыл бұрын

Apparently, the 355 was a nightmare to film. Five actresses with out of control egos, each wanting special treatment, and to be the main star (at the expense of screen time for their co-stars). It's no wonder such catty behavior behind the scenes translated into a joyless movie to watch.

@ashleylodewyk7454 Жыл бұрын

Filmento I absolutely love your channel and all the movie analyse. I've learned a great deal about movies, characters, locations, etc, just from watching your channel then I did from 3 years of film school, and the movies you've analysed so far, and for that I want to thank you. Just watched The Gray Man last night, and I loved it. It's not a fresh never-seen-before concept cause I've seen variations of this character in Bond, Jason Bourne, Ethan Hunt and probably several other government spy-types that I can't recall at this time. But that doesn't matter. This character and movie is good enough to exist on the screen and can't wait to see where they take him next in the announced sequel. Thanx again for the video analyses, and if you could do me a favour by dissecting "Basic Instinct", I would highly appreciate hearing your thoughts about this movie.

@KreshDraven6 Жыл бұрын

For what it is it's very nice. Once again the Russo Brothers proved that they aren't that good outside the MCU and overall it's a classic Netflix movie, enjoyable but not that memorable, compared to their previous big budget movies it's a lot better though. And I understand all the criticism and I surely agree with some points like, this doesn't seems like a 200 million movie at all. I don't know where all that money went but for sure not for CGI, probably they used in the tons of smoke that this film has. But besides that and some clumsy scenes it's a pretty good action thriller with three great leads.

@thatoneguy07 Жыл бұрын

Really smooth sponsorship lol

@GeorgeVenturi Жыл бұрын

yeah Netflix if sponsoring everything

@jadediquattro5355 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your commentary on all these films. I stop watching certain movies because there is something that is hard to define as to why it's a turn off, but you help put words to why they're bad. If you can do that why can't someone in editing do the same thing? Take the action movie "Princess" I couldn't finish it because, 3/4 of the way through, everyone still thinks she's locked in the tower, but in the kitchen you hear the bad guys actually say "let's find that princess", so many inconsistencies it just became frustrating so I turned it off. I love movies when they're done well.

@hippo1705 Жыл бұрын

That was a pretty smooth ad Segway

@jdsaunders12 Жыл бұрын

Can people stop trying to replicated Jason Bourne. Bourne works, because of many factors and it was a genie in a bottle. I don't think many can recapture it. Even greengrass couldn't in his return.

@ZeonEons Жыл бұрын

100% agreed!

@samuraijosh1595 Жыл бұрын

The lone wolf fight scenes in gray man were pretty close

@joshmatlock377 Жыл бұрын

Mostly agree with your analysis but I was not a fan of either movies and honestly feel like they both suffer from a lot of the same problems! The only exception was Chris Evans and Henwick who I was genuinely interested in but everything they did right with Evans in the beginning was ruined for me by the end and Henwick was not given nearly enough screen time!

@jacobjackson5062 Жыл бұрын

Filmento I just love your Segway. You really know how to advertise.

@zwely01x Жыл бұрын

That transition into the Surfshark add was class lol

@Levi_Zacharias Жыл бұрын

I find it interesting that you always talk about these films without reference to the literature they are often based on. It could start an interesting discussion on changes to the source story and characters in order to enhance the film version.