The amount of failure is staggering.

This happens when you entrust this project to a writer who only wrote one movie 10 years ago that flopped...

Yea we no longer need to imagine.

I'm starting to believe that all these failures are intentional. Disney and Marvel can't be that stupid to continue producing garbage after garbage

​@@user-xx6vy9ri8pand not to mention the fact that the writer was forbidden to read the actual comicbook of the event.

Nick Fury has been reduced to nothing but a buffoon who made friends with some shape shifting aliens who effectively operated as their puppet and was utterly clueless without their help, and lost his eye because he was petting a cat. Why. Why Disney? And this is one of the rare instances where they didn't even do it for real world political reasons. Disney is just so incompetent that they've taken an Avengers level character and made him a nobody.

You do know that Nick fury was probably lying right. He's a spy. That's what they do.

To be fair, how else did you think Fury had vast amounts of information at any given time? He can’t be everywhere at once, it should’ve been common knowledge he had a large network of folks feeding him information somehow..

​​​​​@@DaMeng3000By being good at his job? That's how real spy agencies do it, and they dont have access to shapeshifters(afaik). He did work for the most powerful organisation on the planet with unlimited budget and gadgets to make Q cream his pants.

​​​​I guess none of those Skrulls mimiced a Hydra agent by accident. That would have been super awkward 🤣

Didn't know how to write. Period. If these people really had passion, they would've learned. They would at least succeed in one thing.

You'd think with all the money Disney provides them, they could afford to pay consultants for that sort of thing.

@@Theokal3 The way I didn't like She-Hulk but I ended up liking it more than Secret Invasion because at least that show made me laugh and enjoy some moments a couple of times and Secret Invasion just disappointed me all throughout.

​@@movsssAt least SheHulk didn't shit on established characters. Wong and DD were still great.

@@LizardSpork RIGHT?! like is Kevin Feige having some quality control issues rn?

Fucking up an MCU show is super easy, barely an inconvenience!

That second last paragraph 👏. What could have been in the hands of competent writers 🤦‍♂️

W pitch meeting reference

Wow wow wow wow wow

Captain feminist is a fool person who care about himself not others, a typic anti likeable person to see, such pathetic

Actually, the best part of Among Us is silly hats. This show would be good if Nick Fury had an egg on his head

Disney didn't want to have to pay other actors.

Maybe they didn't want to pay other actors lol but i think the point wasn't to keep us guessing on who were Skrulls or not because in 2023 lbh it's pretty hard to fool us with a trick we've seen 1000 times i think the point was that other than Fury most humans didn't even know they existed a lot of this guy's complaining was hindsight & points i don't think he caught because Hill was already played by a skrull before so it wouldn't have been a big shock or how they should've captured the president at a dinner or some dumb shit when the point was to make the Americans think it was the Russians all i know is his ideas would've made the show worse lol it had good writing it just failed to deliver in so many aspects that matter especially when they removed the super hero element completely.

@@GODsoN_216 I AGREE

This could have been an interesting moment of tension too, if Talos or Gaia or someone had to shift into another person to escape or for an infiltration but then were tripped up by not having access to their memories and needed to try to improvise

Are you complaining about us as the audience knowing who characters are? Did the general populace know. no. Did Nick fury know who every single scroll was.. no.

Lol

Andor my beloved

She Hulk's characterization was actually true to the source material (although could have been better directed). But for Secret Invasion, they just took material and pissed on it.

@@MeowtronStarJen is not a selfish and obnoxious jerk in the comics.

@@MeowtronStar if it was true to the source material then the writers made a horrible decision. The show is still garbage.

The fact that Marvel wasted incredible Oscar winning actors like Olivia Colman and Christian Bale is such tragic, they really don't deserve big talent like both of them with a half baked character :(

I can't believe they spent all that money on 6 trash episodes

I hate reading posts like yours because they’re so much better than what we got. Add a little weight to her death. The potential for the show was crapped on.

@@bcm3938 honestly, i think the show lacked supporting characters that could be skrulls. I know Kevin doesn't like them but the Agents of Shield characters were just right there! and Maria Hill knows them. Daisy and Yoyo even have Kree blood so makes sense to put them against Skrulls.

To play devil's advocate, it did happen pretty quickly, and I think the Fury disguise was more just to throw her off guard rather than out right trick her, but yah it was definitely a dumb way for her to go out

Also, Fury and Hill have been hanging out with The Skrulls for a long time since they actually weren't there on Far From Home

That isn't a better idea. Gravik didn't turn into fury to trick Hill. He turned into Fury to frame Fury. Also it's not "unbelievable" that she didn't instantly know it's a skrull. If she did that would immediately defang them of all their power.

FACTS

Don’t forget daredevil and the rest of the Netflix shows

@@breslinhoward6992 but DD and company were always praised (well... except for iron fist)

True! The LMD episodes from Season 4 were everything Secret Invasion should have been.

AOS was pretty solid except for a few bits and the last season. SI was... so tedious to watch. The cast was decent too so it's realy just the writing being absolutely terrible. Same thing that ruined so many shows or movies.

The CGI was the final problem, for me nobody wanted this l, all wanted the real thor, hulk, the real captain Marvel not the feminist or whatever problem who make mans in idiots, gravik was victim of this, so trash

If they weren't giving us series like echo and Iron heart & put all that money & time into secret invasion make it 9-11 Episodes at an hour length they could've introduced characters, ideas, built up the storyline n tension until we reached the finale by doing the story justice don't take such an iconic story water it down and half ass it at least give us the best alternative story u can but it's Hollywood rope you in with quality then disappoint you with quantity.

This is what MCU has always been with some movies as an exception. Endgame and infinity war had the same problem, plot was weak, still don't get how sacrificing tony would lead to their victory when captain marvel was a better candidate to withstand the gauntlet's power. But hey here's an awesome battle sequence to make you forget about all the illogical things the story went for.

@@viniciuscardoso8056 jesus christ youre retarded. This series has clear writing problems, its wild you find a way to bitch about feminism when the problems here have nothing to do with any discourse of gender. They made a spy thriller show with no tensions and no stakes. Simple as that. Dont be a fucking nitwit.

​​@@emmafrost16 because thats not what Doctor strange saw in his vision of the future. Captain Marvel failed to defeat thanos and tony had to act quick as soon as he got the gauntlet. Do you even think before bashing something??? If you payed attention you would realize why it couldn't happen the way you thought it should.

Pretty much. Ain't been the same since Endgame. If they wanted post-Endgame to be as good they should've had a better plan beforehand.

Honestly

If they wanted a post-Endgame they shouldn't have made Endgame and Infinity War imo. It killed the franchise for me. @@rahbeeuh

Rip Stan Lee

Agreed. The only exception to this was No Way Home. That movie coasted on nostalgia, but I can't say the same for the MCU movies and TV shows post-2021.

We all know that the goal was for him to be beaten by his female counterpart the entire time.

@@LordThomasPassion HAAHAAHHAHAAHA

​@@LordThomasPassionWOKEEEE RRRRRRED

SHOULD HAVE*

They don’t seem to realize you can actually harm the legacy

Star Wars is fast going in the same direction. Mando is good, but maybe not enough to save it. Andor is great, but probably doesn't have mainstream appeal.

@@AStageForTheKingdomwith Star Wars and Marvel I simply don’t give af. Oversaturation with incredibly predictable storylines, cringey characters and dialogue, terrible cgi considering the studios and budget and nothing that really effects the world. Just so very boring

And I feel like the same monkey faced dildoes were involved in both shows.

U sure Fury wasn't talking about his grandpa?

He’s black. He can’t have a father, this is Hollywood!

You... you can have a father while also being raised by a single mother, you know?

​​@@GrandisArcanumThere is a difference between a single mother and being the only parent in a child's life. Like you are the Single mother in a relationship lmao doesn't matter if you are married, we all have one mom

@@darthrex6267 Either this is a troll comment, or you are truly so ignorant that you know what the term "single mother" refers to, and I cannot tell which.

CA: Winter Soldier did a better secret invasion than Secret Invasion.

Which is ironic because Gunn used to work for Marvel.

They’re secret agents. They carry guns. It’s not some brilliant insight like the youtuber is selling it… lol… I mean, the show has plenty of issues but seeing an agent going in to an unknown situation with a gun would be normal.

@@alexmartin3143 Indeed. I think the video creator is being a little too harsh on that first scene. Plus, from what we've seen of Ross, we know it would go sideways even if he *did* prepare. Besides, I don't think the opening scene was meant to be that shocking as to the identity of the Skrull, but to establish how deeply they invaded. The first episode is very solid, even good. The problem happens after that.

​@@alexmartin3143 Yes, it makes sense within the universe. However, film is communication. The shot of the gun is quite literally Chekhov's gun- only it's about his identity, not the actual gun going off.

Add on, it's a Skrull as Maria Hill that is sacrificed to increase the trust in Rhodey making his reveal as a bad guy possibly more shocking. Maybe even tease with him saying, "It's impossible to know who you can trust anymore."

Stargate have multiple episodes like that with shapeshifters, "body snatchers" and brainwashing.

This show was garbage. What a stupid finale. More proof that the MCU is now the MSheU. All these stupid "girlboss" moments with little to no explanation or consequences need to stop. Phase 4 continues to prove why the MCU is dying a very slow death. Giving Gia all those abilities and within seconds she learns to master them all like nothing?!? Feige is delusional. if he thinks this will work out in the end. U cant make a garbage move like this that has HUGE repercussions and effects for the future, then just say "dont worry, it will be totally worth it in the end" or some bullsh*t like that. Thats not how things work. Giving us shitty buildup and setup and stupid decisions like this then expect us to stick around? Feige is a f*cking fool. Ive f*cking had it with all this woke garbage! Anyone who thinks there isnt some sort of agenda pushing at work here are just as big a fool as Feige is for thinking this was a good idea!!! 🙄

Ikr. They really needed to show some sort of side affect(s) of having the power of all the Avengers and then some, but the writers for some reason opted to not do this.

Other mary sue, captain feminist turned in a trash, the marvels already is, the name was captain 2 but the actress i hate in my opinion dont are likeable how a woman or a heroine, she is annoying and obviously dont listen mans, she hate

They could always have Rogue steal her powers when she gets introduced ( I don’t think they’ll let it happen to Carol). Have G’iah investigating a suspected skrull operation, reveal the shapeshifter to actually be Mystique who then gets Rogue to absorb G’iah’s Captain Marvel powers. Otherwise, I never want to see her again 🥱

@@ragingshibe sounds like you guys are new to marvel allot of op charcters in marvel are op there is no side effects its always been that way

Honestly since the project was announced, I was just confused as to why it even existed, especially due to the Skrulls in Captain Marvel do not have the same personalities or motivations as the comic counterparts. But then again this is the same industry that thought that Flashpoint arc was good to adapt for the first solo-outing for the Flash

@@AngryHomunculus Everyone in the last few years talked about Secret Wars as if it was going to be as big as an Avengers movie only for it to come out and get zero attention.

​@TheHetzer-xy9lb well, this is leading into Secret Wars, but that is probably going to get even more scrutiny than this show did.

The animation series was 1000%more important than this trash

@@grandarkfang_1482 Wait they are different? The marketing was so bad I thought this was Secret Wars with a name change.

@@Justin_Leahy The only time a simultaneously Marvel show and Movie came out and were in synergy was when Winter Soldier came out and Agents of SHIELD had their own Hydra arc.

@@Justin_Leahy not only that, Spiderman passes the EXACT location of the final battle of Hawkeye, probably passing it only a few hours before the battle occured

​​@@movsssAOS also had the tie in to Age of Ultron, Where they revealed how the Scepter got to Hydra, and the Helicarrier

@@jesusramirezromo2037 yeah I was about to add that too but I was a little confused about which Helicarrier they showed since I haven’t watched the show in a long time

i mean look what russia is doing right now lmao, they are not helping get rid of the stereotype...

Cope Z-tard Ruski 😂

​@@captainalex157Okay but America is definitely no better. I can promise you they've done worse

​@@captainalex157middle eatserners think different of america lol

@@LuffyBlack lol really? just compare the russians/soviets and the americans in afghanistan, cowboys seem like angels in comparison.

You kidding, Starlord was their first mark from Marvel ever since the second movie.

@@pepperonipizza8200 nah

Loki Season 1, Moon Knight & Spider-Man are probably the only good content pieces since Avengers Endgame.

@@brandonrockins9572 gotg 3, Hawkeye

@@brandonrockins9572GOTG 3 too

I’m so glad you mentioned Agents of SHIELD. I kept thinking of that storyline when watching this video. Agents of shield was such a good show that’s surprisingly underrated.

@@cookiestrong8757 bro it's WAY too underrated it was amazing from start to finish (despite season 1 being pretty rough for the most part)

It was produced by Marvel, but James Gunn carried the project. I don't even consider Guardians a Marvel film at this point, it's an insult to those who are actually passionate about filmmaking.

NWH was amazing

@@Batflecksshang chi, loki, nwh, moon knight are like the only things that have been good since endgame lol

@@mymaynee5963 I I would add wandavision to that List and multiverse of madness was OK for me

Loki and wandavision both made the main characters terrible alongside ruining them. There was so many plot holes and inconsistencies that made the shows feel as teenagers wrote the scripts. I didn't watch moon knight as it looked boring and he isn't that good of hero to me. Shang chi was eh, wasn't groundbreaking nor did the plot interest me.

That would have been crazy. But Disney don’t got the balls for that kind of writing

The real hero we hate now is loved

Knowhere would also have been a solution. Or literally any other planet established in the movies, since somehow every planet has an atmosphere of oxygen, so Guardians and the Avengers can breathe without helmets

Honestly it would probably be easier to start from scratch with some help from humans than to rebuild earths infrastructure to be supported by just one million skrulls. Once humanity is gone the entire supply system of the planet would collapse and it would take decades until the standard of living would even come close to what it was before.

Why not Titan? Pretty sure it's empty and has cities already built

@@jesusramirezromo2037 for sure, seems like an unlimited number of choices

It is more about the action rather than the smart intrigues ...and the action straight up *_sucks_* in it too

That's The Problem, Reshoots, Revising The Script Completely, That's What Marvel Does On Everything, Thankfully That They Don't Control On Spider Man, Sony Wouldn't Let Them.

on a strike lol

HONESTLY! Really makes you think. Either there are so many bad writers in Hollywood that are striking right now for a pay rise they simply don't deserve because they're lazy and unimaginative, or there actually are good talented writers that aren't paid enough to care about their work and their creative decisions and squashed by greedy corporate executives. I don't understand how they don't realise they're destroying their own franchise and their legacy!

@@bishbosh4815 Because a writer did a bad job sometimes they dont deserve good pay? lol

@@lucidiesyt7348 I'm not really suggesting that, but so many shows nowadays have such low effort writing, it must be tied to pay in some way

@@bishbosh4815it’s got more to do with the fact that writers rooms are a largely a thing of the past, they don’t even have a writer on set most of the time now. Studios refuse to hire enough writers and with no writers on set, there is no way to gain skills as a showrunner. They’re also rushed, with no time for rewrites or refining of ideas, with producers forcing changes in the name of ‘marketabilty’. It’s the same reason actors don’t have chemistry anymore; no more chemistry reads, they’re auditioning on Zoom. Studios are taking shortcuts. Everything is being segregated, there’s a lack of collaboration or communication. All to save money but ultimately harming the final product.

Agreed. People eat these shows and movies up if we'd get 6 Infinity Wars per year. Instead we are getting multiple X-Men Origins: Wolverine a year. This has nothing to do with people not being interested in superheroes anymore. It's just that with their $200 Million budgets they apparently only spend about 5 bucks on the writers.

It's not about Superhero fatigue but it's about the writing and the visual. People like Across The Spider-Verse because it has good writings, likeable characters, and also good animations. It's even overthrown 2 animated movies that come out later which are Elemental and Ruby Gillman, hell even take over The Flash, the last straw of DCEU movie with a problematic actor as the main character.

Avengers 1 is really dated, that movie aged terribly imo

💯

@@geraltrivia9565Lmao it’s aged like fine wine over the course of 11 years compared to some of their more recent movies that are only a year old or so 😂

I really liked her character, she has such a "I'm a polite British but I will still f you up" vibe~ Love to see more of her

The problem is that she was EXACTLY what Nick Fury should have been in this show. They went the same route as Last Jedi, making the male character a broken, pathetic failure, while replacing him with badass female character(s).

And yet the series somehow wasted her, her character was fine but rather forgettable. It's the same that Christian Bale was wasted in Love and Thunder, highlight of the movie yet didn't get enough potential

@@15Candles My biggest fear is that they are going to waste Ke Huy Quan in Loki Season 2. Marvel has the tendency to waste some brilliant performers on mediocre scripts -- with Secret Invasion being one of the biggest offenders. I really hope this doesn't become an increasing trend.

the SKrulls are pretty much just a rip off the Zygons.

The series isn't all bad, but it's clear the people putting things together knew how to set things up, but didn't realize how to tie it together into a conclusion. They really needed to give Gravik both a better motivation and a more consistent characterization instead of him just being a boring bad guy.

All mans were turned in joke, hulk, thor, captain without power woke, she hulk incompetent, the only good is spider but i dont have hopes anymore

GOTG 3 was great, which the MCU stans consistently use as a counterargument to "the MCU sucks now," but it was great because of James Gunn and he's at DC now.

​@@viniciuscardoso8056Atleast correct your grammar before spilling hate.

mcu, not marvel

@@lead6186 correct me god of grammatic? Are you feared of me? Man without balls

Fury: I don't wanna call the Avengers because i don't wanna have the Skrulls steal their powers Also Fury: Lets give Giah the vial, so she can get all the powers.n

And on a person level Gravik wants to kill Fury, because... someone else destroyed their planet? and Fury went out of his way so they could even stay here for decades? oh yeah, but he made a false promise, so let's just wipe out his entire species

And yet in their secret base everyone walked around in their human disguises. 🙄 Was there no enough money for makeup in that $200mil budget?

@@LizardSpork Oh yeah, that was a dead giveaway of how cheap this whole thing was made, despite the budget. Also pay attention to how corpses almost never transform back on screen. They're just adding a sound and then suddenly it's a bad looking green guy

Yeah it takes away from his character and all the impact made. Like who however thought that was smart is dumb as rocks.

is the show over???

Its a dumbass show written by the laziest writers

@@buusa yessir, unless they do a S2

@@Cole.H21 yeah this show had abysmal ratings and cost a lot. i doubt there will be a season 2

inb4 writers forgot, that Skrulls not the only aliens on Earth, and New Asgard will not be affected at all

I do the same

I had no expectations for this show, and I just found it so boring and I even got entertainment value out of she hulk,

Life philosophy

Winter Soldier Nick Fury...a man worthy of leading the Avengers Initiative. Secret Invasion Nick Fury...a man you wouldn't trust to water your plants when you're away because he has a habit of allowing a LOT of death all around him and tends to disappear a lot and is never good for his word.

Title: Secret Invasion Season One: The Shape of Deception Plot Overview: After the devastating events of the Thanos snap and the subsequent return of billions of people, Earth is struggling to rebuild. Nick Fury, who was operating from the shadows during this period, reunites with Maria Hill and Everett Ross to re-establish S.H.I.E.L.D. Meanwhile, the Skrulls who had sought refuge on Earth after the Kree-Skrull war are living in disguise among the humans. Captain Marvel is away on her cosmic duty, leaving Nick Fury as one of the few who knows about the Skrulls' presence. Hints of a Secretive Plan: Episode 1 starts with a mysterious incident where a powerful government official is replaced by a Skrull, leading to concerns about the extent of their infiltration. Throughout the season, there are subtle hints that Thalos, the Skrull leader, is not in complete control of the situation. He contacts Nick Fury for help, acknowledging that there is a faction within the Skrulls working against him. Maria Hill and Everett Ross discover that high-ranking officials in multiple countries are acting oddly, raising suspicions of Skrull involvement in their governments. Thalos provides Nick Fury with some vital information about the double agents but emphasizes that the full extent of the infiltration is unknown, hinting at an even greater conspiracy. Character Developments: Thalos and Nick Fury's partnership grows, and they develop a deeper understanding of each other's motivations. Thalos reveals that his daughter Gaya is crucial to stopping the rogue Skrull faction, but her whereabouts are unknown. James Rhodes plays a significant role in assisting Nick Fury, but he becomes suspicious of one of his close allies, adding an element of doubt and mystery. The US President, initially seen as an ally, may exhibit suspicious behavior throughout the season, raising doubts about their true identity. Themes and Tones: Themes of deception, trust, and identity are explored, with characters unsure who to trust as the Skrulls' secret agenda is revealed. The season maintains a spy thriller tone with intense action sequences, uncovering double agents, and engaging in thrilling chases and battles. Major Secret Revealed at the End of Season One: In the season finale, it is revealed that Gaya, Thalos' daughter, is not only alive but has been leading the rogue Skrull faction. She believes that the Skrulls must take over Earth to ensure their survival and security in the wake of the Kree-Skrull war and the devastating effects of Thanos' snap. Gaya has manipulated key human figures into positions of power and influence, all while remaining undercover. This revelation sets the stage for a tense and personal confrontation between Nick Fury and Gaya in Season Two. Stay tuned for Season Two: Secret Invasion - The Web of Betrayal.

Who's got my shoes? 😂😂😂😂😂

I would kill for Fitzsimmons to be in the mcu 😭😭

Joss was only for the first episode or something. Jed and Marissa Whedon handled the rest, and it saved the show from Joss's worst vices. Anyway, Fitzsimmons can keep their happy ending and the satisfactory conclusion to their arc: I don't trust Disney+ to respect them.

@@ultimamage3 Not just talking about Fitzsimmons. But May, Daisy, and Mack (who poses as Fury on Earth). Hell, even WMD Colson would be a great Cameo Return to the MCU.

Here's what the sad thing. Then-WWF had just been forced to stop its use of WWF from the World Wildlife Fund, so they easily could have rebranded as WCW. Instead, they came up with the "get the F out" campaign AND initially had the boneheaded idea of having "Shane McMahon presents WCW."

What about Thanos's planet?

@@joshuaperrine2019 Titan? That’s been decimated.

This is what I keep saying. Season one and first half of season two (with CAWS) has much more intrigue, betrayal, spy craft, and danger than Secret Invasion.

@@dancingdragon3 Secret Invasion should’ve been Marvels version of “24”. Fury needed to unleash his inner “Jack Bauer”.

I mean SHIELD did the intrigue and paranoia that this series should have so much better in season 3 and 4 (even s1 with the Hydra thing)