This. 📍

Muscle memory. Everything can be retrained if you put in the work and it then becomes effortless, and second nature.

I can confirm this. I wore a back brace for 8 years (literally all through my teen years) to retrain my muscles and spine to be straight. It was that or spinal surgery. Look up people with kyphosis. It's great being told to "straighten up" by someone who barely knows you when you literally can't straighten up. Doctors who treat kyphosis refrain from that statement.

@@NoLabCoatRequired Love your sense of humor! Always good to mix humor in ..keeps people engaged. Glad to see your channel growing! ❤

Ballerinas face disordered eating, menstrual dysfunction, osteoporosis, and cardiovascular disease. Of course not to mention damage to their feet. So not exactly an exercise program I would recommend.

This comment brought me the biggest smile :)

I’d say he’s more so teaching people how to think critically…he knows all to well that scientific research is limited by a number of variables, but if you keep an open mind it will help avoid closing yourself off to more knowledge. For every research article that makes a claim, there’s one to refute it. And for any research study that claims to prove something, be even more skeptical.

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@@NoLabCoatRequired Hey, 51 and feel the same way as Mr. Satterlund. I've damage to my lower back from a work injury years ago and have been arguing this point, though without all your evidence or admitedly knowledge, with my PT for years ;) Thanks to you, I've some titles to throw into the arguement this week. lol Subbed :) Not because you've allowed me to continue my heartfelt harassment of my friend with actual ammo to counter his "Yeah? When did you get your degree?" hahaha PT is a very good friend, and its an ongoing 'fun' fight we've been at for years now. But subbed because your work and presentation are both very well done, awesome to see someone who's enthusiastic and enjoys what they want to do doing it well :)

(YES! late to this party but) I am 69 years old & attribute my back & neck pain to doing my phisical jobs all my life the WRONG ways & not posture at all. I was raised in a time & place that taught me the bullshit of "you are a man, just do it!" when those jobs actually needed a machine to do it safely. As a exaggerated example (but 1 we tried actually) if a tractor was stuck in the mud "let's all just push & pull it out!". Very stupid I now know, but that was our mindset at that time.

Exactly. When the muscles are strong and in balance (something achieved through activity that strengthens muscles and improves flexibility in tandem) then "good" posture is the end result. When some muscles are weak or out of balance-- for example, I work with my hands/arms in front of me all day, so my upper back muscles like my rhomboids get weak and stretched out and my anterior chest and shoulder muscles get tight and contracted-- then "bad" posture is the result, because our muscles are pulling our bodies into those positions. That why those exercises to fix posture work. And it's why just *trying* to have "better" posture and constantly beating yourself up about it absolutely does not work at all, lol. Unless I specifically strengthen my rhomboids and stretch/loosen my pecs, my shoulders are always gonna roll forward, because that's what those muscles will make my shoulders do, and no amount of consciously correcting it is going to make that not true.

@nolabcoatrequired if we are thinking in terms of office jobs and schools where you are forced to be in this limited range of motion. It’s makes sense that if you don’t have the muscle endurance and strength to support your body(which can actually take considerable amount to hold static positions) and you are not allowed to move and readjust once a position becomes uncomfortable, then yeah pain is inevitable. It would be interesting to know if there are any studies talking about how changing the environment affect the pain

so true When I tried achieving a good posture not much happened but I noticed a big shift after I started working out

I went from being a reclusive gamer to a birder and, just from an increase in the amount of exercise I do a week, my posture has improved greatly. I’m not sitting straight up like royalty but I’m also not imitating a vulture. Interesting stuff!

Incredible input!

Valuable comment! I wish this point had been highlighted in the video, complete with your analogy.

The reverse of that is only strengthening unnecessary muscles. If your team only practices 2-point conversions, they'll be very good at them, but they'll lose game after game because they don't know how to run or pass the ball. If you have to pick one, you'd rather the team who only runs down the middle, since you have to score a touchdown for the 2-point conversion to even be relevant. In real life, you don't have to pick one, but you should still focus on the more important aspects. You can only spend so much time training, so you need to optimize that time by spending most of it on the things that are most likely to score, and less of it on things you only see occasionally. I find that slouching is uncomfortable precisely because of how much it uses core muscles. Sitting straighter allows me to be lazier, and causes less discomfort after long periods of time. Of course, any position gets uncomfortable eventually, but any form of slouched position gets bad faster because my core muscles tire out then my spine starts taking the brunt of the forces. I also find that the vast majority of office chairs have terrible ergonomics. They're all designed so you either have to sit up straight with zero support from the chair back, or slouch way back so the chair is supporting some weight, but at radical angles that are quite painful. Finding a chair that has a more vertical back so I can both sit up straight and lean on the chair to reduce fatigue is almost impossible. I've taken to bolting adjustable car seats to my computer rigs so I can get reasonable seating positions. Though I do occasionally look for my seat belt when sitting down to watch Netflix.

This is incredible analogy, nice.

Except C0VID, then you get flagged for misinformation...

From one side - yes. From the other, skepticism can be harmful. I learned too many good advices to be true the hard way, because I skeptical and couldn't just believe it. Result? I learned it by doing the same exact mistakes... Critical thinking is crucial, but skepticism can be extremely harmful if applied in wrong places. People already have hard time believing something that contradicts their worldview. Add up extra skepticism and they won't ever believe.

Unless it's about factual information like the shape of the earth.

​@@RottenHereticwhy?

@@fajnu20 You believe the earth is flat?

thanks for commenting! Means the world to me that folks like yourself see that.

WOW! Without looking, I had assumed this was a multithousand subscribed channel at least! The research, editing and the vibes are fantastic. The butter vid popped up in my suggested vids and now I'm subscribed, hopefully others do too.

@@chicka-boom7540Exactly my thoughts! I came from the butter video too. It’s popping up in peoples recommended now :) I just checked the views because of these comments and dang haha.

Same. Gonna have to spread the word.

@@chicka-boom7540That butter video is taking off, though. It brought me here too. I can’t wait to see this channel grow. We are part of the first 1500 subs!

​@@jennifermarlow. That's awesome to hear! It's rare to get such an authentic response in the youtube comment section, it's very refreshing. Most my life I've lived rather unhealthily and have been very sedentary, but I've really been getting into fitness these past few months and have started seeing a nutritionist as well. I hope to get back into martial arts and see how far I can go to transform myself. I've only just started and I have a long way to go but I've been pretty determined. I just hope I can keep it up and not slip back into my old ways.

Get a new physical therapist. "Good posture" is where your bones settle at rest if proper tension is being maintained by all the muscles around it. *Most* people do not exercise or stretch enough so their posture needs to be kept in check because it's the only thing they are telling their muscles to do.

@@u4iadreams Good posture won’t solve the problems caused by no exercise. Moving and stretching regularly is more important than any postural stuff.

@@jessehunter362 I never suggested otherwise? My contention was that "there is no such thing as good posture" is an outright lie. I tell every single one of my clients to pick up a western yoga practice and help to correct their posture while educating them on the consequences of poor posture. Poor posture is a major contributing factor to ruptured and slipped vertebral discs so when I hear someone saying that there is no such thing as good posture, all I hear is someone creating future misery for anyone who would listen to such an idiotic thing.

Ha! Happy to have you Ben!

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Same 😂 about to go find some more

me too lol

execpt im not eatin butter

you're a bad therapist.

My foster parent wouldn’t let me lie in bed to watch TV or eat anywhere other than the table.

Wow! thanks for taking the time to add your story to the conversation. I found this very intriguing. I'm glad you enjoyed and welcome :)

Look into myo-fascial release techniques for releasing muscular trigger points, there are a few really good books around for self-practice. It takes time but sounds like you already have practice being patient :) Good luck man.

Sounds to me like you have a rib that isn't fully in place. When you put your body under this unusual level of stress, your muscles pull that rib further out of place instead of holding the rib as close to in place as your muscles can. The main problem, as far as your body is concerned, is that you are taking something that your body is used to doing for short periods of time (30-40 minutes) and suddenly asking your body to do this activity for 6 hours a day, daily for as long as 3 months at a time. If you were to go from walking the amount you normally do in a day (total) to walking 12 times as much, even for just one day, you would be in a lot of pain. Do that for 3 months solid and you are going to magnify any injuries you get early on, as well as stressing your body and muscles in such a way that any existing imperfections with your body will show up as pain that will continue to be amplified as sore muscles become tense and pull on tendons and ligaments that aren't used to supporting against those levels of muscle tensions in those directions. (It's important to know that tendons and ligaments strengthen, or heal, 6 times slower than muscles.)

I get the knot is the same place when doing similar things. And it’s difficult because I have no idea how to stretch/relieve that specific part of my back. It’s the type of knot that makes you let out an airy “ahhhh” when you try to move too quickly.

I used to get that pain, too. Years ago I was going through school to become a massage therapist. I was the only student who would get that pain. Only, for me it was on the right side. I learned 2 things about that pain while I was in school. 1: Middle and anterior scalenes (muscles in the front/side of the neck) can cause a referal point that can cause that back pain. Release middle and anterior scalenes and you release that back pain. 2: No matter how well I understand the reason and take care of my scalenes, my body does not like being in that position. So I don't make my body do that anymore.

your a bad therapist and yoga teacher.

But there are bad positions for the body! Leaning forward for prolonged time and getting hunched over is good?!

@@momchilandonov have you really paid attention to the "single perfect position"?

@@icy4739 it's not about perfect or not. My point is leaning is in no way better than straight for prolonged times.

@@momchilandonov that's your opinion, I was just talking about your other point against this comment, have a lovely day, angel 💕✨🌙

Really appreciate the kind words. My absolute pleasure

And to think some of the film stars and related professions, some of the women get these HUGE implants. I hate to think of the constant pain they have!

Sorry that you had a bad childhood

thank you 😌@@coolpans7417

Thanks for input. When I dipped my toes in, I realized how vast the research was. For that reason, I wanted to focus primarily in static posture. Even with just that, there are SO many things to consider. Was hoping for this video to add to the conversation and open up prospective. Data from the sports world would be fascinating!

@@mycinnamongirl Where have you been? My daughter has scoliosis. It is a real thing and blatantly obvious in an X-Ray. I watched as it got worse in the X-Rays. Many cases of scoliosis are minor and the person may go through life without even knowing it. But in some cases, it ruins your life. It severely messed up my daughter's life even though we used a brace for several years and then had to get her surgery. I think "they" don't test for it anymore for the same reason schools don't do many physiologically related things anymore, schools lack the funding anymore to do that. It is a cost-benefit analysis based on money rather than concern for kids. If scoliosis only occurs in 3% of girls, and only a small minority of those actually develop bad scoliosis, then the schools are spending scarce resources on physicals for girls, only to have minor results IN THE STATISTICAL WORLD. In the real world, tell that to the ones where it was not caught soon enough. Scoliosis needs to be monitored so that if it gets beyond a certain point, medical intervention (usually through a brace) becomes very important. If it goes beyond a certain point, surgery is required (lots of titanium rods and such). The monitoring of significant scoliosis in adolescence should happen every 3 months. Kaiser Permanente did it every 6 months (cost-benefit calculation). My daughter crossed the point at 3 months and by the time they got to 6 months, her scoliosis was so bad that they figured a brace had little chance of working anymore. We tried it anyway, to no avail.

​@@cassandra8984your amazing

​@@mycinnamongirlscoliosis is a medical condition lmao

From an MRI I had a few years ago (upper back/shoulders/neck), it was found that I might have mild scoliosis going to the right. It makes sense with leaning right a lot when I’m on register (I work in a grocery store).

I developed hunchback due to not having straight posture for years. This video is complete bullshit!

Not to mention acting like superman and lifting heavy stuff like engines to show off

So glad you and your son have found value here David, thanks! and I'll definitely link my research from now on!

Continual improvement and change

Agreed. I love these videos but it a necessary to link all research.

Thank you! and I certainly can. Thanks for this valuable input.

Hey thanks Gopher! :)

Reminds me of when tasting History popped out of nowhere looking like it was professionally produced and had hundreds of thousands of subs in months.

Thanks, it did 😊

Ill second this. I cant say sitting straight feels better but I notice I breath easier and I'm more alert when I do.

Same. Also observed my organ professors experience back issues requiring surgery.

💯 Good question?! Some swear by their standing desks....and others differ.

Interesting! This is great input. Movement is medicine.

But the video title is very misleading! It's better to sit straight up than get hunched. Like one could hardly get hunched if he stays straight all the time!

@@momchilandonov No, the video title is not misleading. Maybe the thumbnail is. The title says nothing about becoming hunched.

it's circumstantial then, because if I was sitting up straight I wouldn't be hunched now... Sure it gives back and neck pain, but at least the posture long term would be better. Neck and back pain are due to the evolution basics - we didn't evolve to sit on a chair 8 hours a day, so it's common sense for it to be causing issues regardless of posture. @@livipup

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You are so right! Thankfully you have decades of experience with these kids Thanks for your timely response

Thank you :)

Thanks for comment, great input!