The reason people are mad at Eddie dying is BECAUSE they won't kill off main characters but they'll keep introducing new characters just to kill them off instead.

I don’t think main characters NEED to die to be good. But it does cheapen the story when there is so much death and somehow all of our heroes stay alive.

I truly think Max should've died or just avoid Vecna breaking every bone in her body in the final confrontation. I love Max as much as the next person but the way they saved her felt so ridiculous and deus ex machina.

Millie was right, some characters have to go. There’s too many characters to keep up with. If the main characters are always kept safe then they are never in any REAL danger.

Finally someone's talking about this. I think every character that has died in stranger things IN ALL OF THE 4 SEASONS were characters added in the same season or minor characters, and when hopper died they retconned it

I'm now convinced that the main characters of "Stranger Things" are protected by plot armour. It's become painstakingly obvious that the Duffers don't want to kill off any main characters, so settle on the lovable side characters. As a result, the stakes are no longer as high.

As much as I like Stranger Things, my biggest gripe with this show is the way they like to introduce characters only to eventually kill them off too soon in the same season

Yeah I feel like "resurrecting" Max felt cheap. Even though she's in a coma, I feel like that moment was lessened. Max had played such a well rounded role in season 4 that it almost feels like a death is what it should have led to.

I was shocked when Steve didn't die at the end of season 4. I thought his rekindled chemistry with Nancy was so he could heroically save himself and have a bittersweet but fitting ending, as the babysitter taking care of the kids to the very end. It would have been a totally satisfying ending to end his character arc. Instead, he was somewhat helpful in the finale, and ends the series smiling at Robin flirting with her crush. If they'd had the guts to kill him Steve would have been remembered as a classic, beloved character who died a hero, and his death would have MASSIVELY increased both the danger and the need to defeat Vecna going into season 5.

They really should have killed Max last season. I was legit emotional about her dying. Then they randomly were able to resurrect her with Eleven somehow?? I don't know. It really took the window out of the sails of the finale for me. Ending s4 with a major character death that leads into a darker and more serious final s5 would've been incredible.

When I heard Eddie's DnD campaing ending "Vecna has decimated you to half of your men and you are down to two choices, attack or run away" I thought that was foreshadowing the ending...it did not

That scene with Lucas holding Max and hearing her say “I don’t want to die” was one of the most intense and depressing death scenes ive ever seen. The idea of her dying due to the fault of the main characters , in such a gruesome and sad way, would’ve made for a much more intense ending, with a strong want for the characters to get revenge on the villain. But no, she somehow survives, and almost all of the dramatic weight (besides Eddie’s death) is gone. Yes, I really enjoyed Eddie as a character (even if his fans really annoy the shit out of me) and his death was sad, I knew it would happen, and he was only in the show for 1 season. If Max, a character part of the main crew, who had been around since season 2 had died in the hands of the man who loved her, after her best friend couldn’t save her, my lord would that have been heartbreaking.

To relate it back to stranger things, barbs death was amazingly executed. They didn’t bring her back, and the impact of that unexpected death still carries on in the 4th season (at least to me)

Max was a big big miss this last season. The character death was built up very well but did not follow through. It would have been a powerful moment for the group that could have carried a lot of weight into the next season.

While not a main character, Cedric Diggory's death hit me in a way that most don't. It was so passive. It was an accident that he was even in the graveyard. This is the reality of death and how quick it is. How little others' lives mean to some people. Very impactful for me.

My main qualm with Max's resurrection was feeling like I was played. They had me sobbing after her "death" only to say, "nope, nevermind." I didn't like that they threw all those emotions on me to make them not count. If they were going to do it they should have committed. If they weren't then great, we'd still have Max and one less "Gotcha--not dead!" moment. We already had that plot mechanism.

As a general rule the more characters you have the more issues you suffer from. Difficult to develop a lot of characters all at once to the same level and some get left by the way side. While if you kill people off then they can get a good farewell or contribute something really meaningful to the story and open up more room to explore other characters.

Me between seasons 3 and 4: Maybe Hopper jumped into the upside down to avoid the explosion! Actual answer: No, he kind of fell... Four feet away.

The death of Mufasa in the Lion King was my first onscreen shattering death as a child. Watching as an adult, it’s still so impactful.

This is an awesome take. The beautiful part about stories sometimes is that the hero doesn't always ride off into the sunset, sometimes they die tragically or in a way to inspire others.

The issue is that the writers aren't writing a show, they are writing a fanfiction. And every character has it's own fanbase, they can't kill anyone, because every group of fanboys and fangirls are a group that brings them money.

I’m still mad about that Negan introduction, honestly. The season finale where the Saviors are closing in on them, building up this sense of dread as they realize they’re trapped, was PERFECT. Negans speech was delivered amazingly. And then they made us wait a year to find out who he actually killed. The resolution to that amazing tension was in not just a separate episode but a separate SEASON. I kept watching for a while, but that was really the moment I knew the show lost it.

As much as it would be difficult to watch, I do think the climactic end game for Eleven should be her sacrificing herself to save the others, defeat Vecna and close the Upside Down forever. That would be powerful. Perhaps Jonathan dying early in season 5, also, would raise the stakes.

I loved Stranger Things when it came out, and I understand why Will and his friends had to survive, but now every time someone narrowly avoids death I just roll my eyes because its super improbable.

In the walking dead season 2 the death of Sophia is one of my favourite plot twists. Shane is proven right, that the world is ruthless, making lead characters rethinking their place and ethic, in addition Hershel dangerous behaviour has consequences and make the character grow. That’s a fantastic build up and a heart breaking reveal.

Bridge to Terrabithia was one of the most affecting “main character” deaths I can remember

Fun fact: Steve Harrington was supposed to DIE in season ONE, but the actor Joe Keery was so good they kept him on!

No character death will ever hit as hard as Ned Starks. In both the books and the first season, his demise is set up so well in a brutal world thriving with lush history that his death as the main character also completely changes the entire WORLD for every other character in the story. Absolutely peak storytelling from Martin.

While I do agree with this to an extent, The Walking Dead in particular had this grating streak where they would abruptly kill off main characters for the shock value, and then immediately replace them with new characters that they expected us to love all the same.

Speaking of Stranger Things deaths, did anybody understand how Papa survived the demagorgon in Season 1? After what we've seen them do, it makes no sense that he survived. Just like I don't understand how Max is still alive, but Vecna's plan worked. Max should have stayed dead.

I think what bothers me so much is that this season REEEAAALLY teased the idea that Nancy or Steve was going to die, that one of them would not make it back from the Upside Down. After multiple seasons of me never questioning their survival, I really thought they were going to do it this time. And for all of that hinting to amount to nothing, I'm just fed up and all of my emotional investment feels used up. Even worse, they undermined the emotional impact of actually letting Max survive by having her wind up in the hospital/in a coma/maybe dead anyway. If they were going to kill her, they should have done it during that famous scene. If not, they should have left her alone and let her survival lull the audience into a sense of comfort before killing off a different main cast member. Honestly, the laid the foundation for a major payoff with Barb's death by having that finally catch up with Nancy. If they killed Nancy off because she was consumed by the guilt of Barb, a character that was pretty much an afterthought at this point, it would have pulled everything full-circle and given a clear contrast of outcomes between her and Max. It's such a missed opportunity, especially because they literally showed all of the pieces leading up to it and then... nothing. The Brothers openly stating that they don't know how to handle a post-death Stranger Things is an amazing admission of ineptitude. They talk about it as if it's impossible, as if all these impactful stories we know and love don't exist, instead of realizing the actual truth: they're either not good enough to pull it off or they're too scared to try and find out.

Max was a case of wanting their cake and eating it too. She had to die in order for Vecna to become a bigger baddie for s5. But they didn't want to kill her so.....the power of love....or whatever

Reminds me of how Queen Latifah and others have "no death" clauses in their contracts so they can always show up in sequels. Sometimes characters just need to die

the problem with strangers thing is it have too many side character that they have more character development compare to main character. i like robin as character but at the same time i dont think her character is necessary or have any impact to the main plot. her character actually create more unnecessary side plot. they should focus more to develop will and mike. Mike should be like 2ndery main character after eleven, somehow he got less character development and screen time then robin. which is why when they try to puch his love plot with eleven look cringe and dull, they look really awkward together. u dont really need to kill the main character, just develop them more.

major props to millie for being so blatant. she knows she's one of the biggest names on that cast and she has an attitude of "what are they gonna do? write me out? well thank effing god" and she's so real for that. had no idea she said that in an interview

I think max coming back actually made more sense as her fight with vecna is kind of a representation of battling mental illness/trauma and I think having her die would’ve undermined basically everything she did in season 4 however hopper absolutely needed to die. It was his time. There is no reason for him to be alive at this point in the show.

The most impactful TV death was Seymour, Fry's beloved dog. Makes you cry every time you watch that episode.

Feels like one of Eleven or Will is toast in season 5, one of them is gonna sacrifice themselves since they’re the most connected to the upside down. I think they felt they couldn’t kill Hopper in season 3 because he had no closure with Eleven, and they couldn’t kill Max because her story represented depression and they didn’t want to send the wrong message of by “completely” killing her (thus rendering her fight meaningless). Or I’m reading too far into it and everyone really just likes Sadie and David too much to kick them out of the story

At this point it almost feels like it's going to be too late. What makes deaths like Ned, Robb, and Catherine Stark so meaningful is that the story must continue without them. That you have to see the growth and change of the characters over several seasons. But more than just the change to the characters (like you mentioned with fridging) it changes the actual story. If people die at the end of season 5, it won't really change the overarching story. It will change the ending, which is important, but the damage of people not feeling expendable has already been done. I love Hopper and Eddie and feel like Max is the strongest character in the series over the past 2 seasons. I like being able to watch those characters and actors, but without any death it really feels like the past 2 seasons (and even the 2nd as well) have just been rehashing the same story of a monster that is attacking Hawkins that is then saved by a magician.

This is the main thing thats been bugging me about Stranger Things, love the show but its been annoying how no one important dies.

This is such a difficult situation for The Duffer Brothers to be into. If they kill any character from the main cast in Season 5, people will complain saying they just did it to satisfy those who complained about them staying alive or that it was "too late" to kill them and should have died way earlier. If they don't kill any of them, people will complain even more saying they didn't have the courage to do so.

Maes Hughes death is one of the most impactful deaths I've seen. It's impact ripples through the characters, not just the main but even side characters, throughout the entire season. It especially hurts with the reason he was put into that situation was him helping out our main characters.

It's pretty annoying when they bring in a new character who you KNOW will get killed off (they're always the outcast/unknown one who wouldn't really affect anyone by dying) and only one or two of the main cast get effected by the death, like barb with nancy, alexi with... murray??? tbh it did not effect him that much after alexi died, and eddie with dustin. Another thing: I still feel like Eddie's death, although foreseeable, was shit. I mean, he didn't get any screentime and did a goofy scream and a cool guitar riff and he goes out as a "hero" who nobody cares about. woo, fun, and the aftermath was awful too. I would have liked to see how Steve might've tried to comfort Dustin after Eddie's death, especially since both characters are kind of like besties to Dustin. BTW I am not an Eddie stan i just think it was kinda shit and just tried too hard to pull at your heart strings with a semi-likable semi-goofy wacky little "new dnd member!" kinda character- almost as if they were trying to make a new main cast member that accounts for the babysitting squad and the kids to fake a major character death- idk what I'm rambling on about- it is literally 11 PM in my timezone and I just can't make anything make sense, soo I hope if you read this you get my point

the whole season i felt upset with just how many characters there were. as loveable as they all are keeping track of 3, 4, 5 different groups with their own locations and main characters was tooooo much. the episodes were longer than ever yet still I felt like I didn't get to feel with the characters. i was too busy keeping track of everyone we're jumping to and from that when eddies death happened I could barely even feel attached, it was too predictable. i was hoping with the finale they would fix this issue so at least next season would be easier to watch but they made it WORSE. we can revive characters? that's just lame.

I was very disappointed with season 4. The soviet plotline was such a drag, I started fastforwarding those parts after some episodes, because those scenes felt so disjointed and dull. Even after I had fastforwarded 70% of those scenes, it didn't affect the rest of the show until the very end. I've a lot of problems with S4 and some with S3 in general, notably the Joyce/Hopper romance. Those two had such a nice dynamic in S1 and S2, then they started acting completely different, by the writers deciding that an "enemies to lovers" arc made sense for them? 😩

Meanwhile, Will has been doing basically nothing the whole time

i literally saw Eddie's death coming from a mile away. Billy, Aleksei, Barb all killed in the same season they were introduced. It's not hard to connect the dots.

I think Harry Potter did it right. Harry lost his parents and subsequently all his parental figures (Sirius, Dumbledore and arguably Snape). Hermione lost her parents (they didn’t die but she became a stranger to them). Ron lost his brother, one half of a pair of twins. Major characters were lost as major events happened like the battle. The stakes were high and the world was changed. Trying to preserve all characters limits the impact of what are meant to be major, world-shifting events because it’s just not realistic.

The master of this in my experience was Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. The significant death in the first season inexorably shaped the events that followed in an extremely satisfying way, right up to the end.

Prue Halliwell's death actually being real as the opening of Charmed's 4th season shocked me the most. I was a tween/teen when Charmed was first airing, and it was the first time an actual main character (in a show I loved) died. Not only that, but the actress and producers had major beefs, so she never returned (unlike in other shows where characters can return for flashbacks/beyond the grave -- both of which could easily have fit in the Charmed universe and were used quite often with other characters). Finally, because she was the Head Sister Witch, her death completely changed the trajectory of the show. I liked both Prue and Paige, and the show as it was before and after the character's death (for vastly different reasons), but the effects of the death were undeniable.

Character deaths make sense for certain types of stories. If you just want something comfortable and fun, like Stargate SG1, or a Marvel movie, I think it's fine to keep the cast alive. But those stories can never hit the same levels of dramatic storytelling as media that allows characters to die, and they aren't really meant to. If you want the audience to take your threats seriously, though, you need to give them a reason.

Not sure how many other people get this sense, but I feel like they’re setting Eleven up to die. Perhaps Will as well? There’s this dark cloud kind of hanging over them. Don’t think they’d kill both. Will be very curious to see what they do in Season 5

Eleven getting revival powers is just total BS.

I had the same thought of, "There's too many characters, they really need to thin out the cast." because it seems like a lot of the main characters from before got somewhat pushed aside for other story threads. But, the more I think about it, that's why I like this show. They aren't killing off so many characters. Life can get stressful and overwhelming enough, it's nice coming to a show where there is hope and a happy ending. (At least for most of the characters- RIP Eddie)

Max’s ‘death’ scene lost so much weight after she was brought back like what even was the point lol

That's why I respect Downton Abbey. They killed Sybil, they killed Mathew, with no turning backs. And that only "broke the internet" and cemented the show's success even more, that's why people keep coming back to it even after years since it has ended. A true example of good storytelling.

Seriously, when Eddie died I didn't care as much as the show suggested I should, and when Max didn't die I was pretty pissed. Fucking cheap escape there. Plot armor nonsense. It really soured the season for me, in addition to the completely unnecessary time spent in Russia. I'm not saying Eddie wasn't kinda cool, but the deaths of characters like him don't hit that hard. They just don't.

This was really helpful. I've been wanting to make an impactful and emotional character death, especially after watching tasm 2. Gwen's death and Boromir's death in lotr have really impacted me, and I think they both work well

The death of Aerith in Final Fantasy VII is one of the best examples of an impactful death of a main character of all time.

Main Character death can also cause viewers to stop caring. I remember when Walking Dead Killed off Glen and Abraham, viewership dropped drastically. Most of the people I knew stopped watching the show all together

I think furthermore to make a death impactful, the character needs to remain "gone" as well. Making the Joker a figment of Batman's imagination in Arkham Knight or making the Purple Man a figment of Jessica Jones' imagination doesn't actually feel like they're gone. If a character dies, but still ends up getting even more screentime, it diminishing the weight of the death and acts more as a crutch for the writers too scared to push forward a better character.

Personally, I was really mad that they decided to “kill off” Max because of the narrative that was portrayed in Dear Billy, but after this, I think I was more angry that the kept doing the fake outs. If they were going to threaten her life more than once then they need to commit.

Boromir's death is the most impactful that I've watched on film... you live trough that moment with Aragon and Boromir...and you grieve with Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas after Boromir's departure... Mufasa and Maximus got me too...

I love stranger things and always will but it’s become predictable and follows a similar pattern every season. There are too many characters too little screen time they should just kill some off for the sake of the better performances and more fleshed out stories. It’s become now where the seasons will have some characters who don’t even have a good story, season 4 was probably the first time I saw Lucas really have a good storyline.

Littlefoot’s mom was brutal and yet done so well to drive the story.

As long as they don't kill Will, I'm good. He seems like the most likely to sacrifice himself out of the youngest main characters, but how would that be a satisfying ending, or make any sense? He hasn't had a day of peace since the beginning of the first episode. I think he deserves to finally be truly happy at the end of the series, which is exactly what he himself doesn't expect to happen, but he deserves it. Steve on the other hand, I feel should die in S5, He should get an amazingly heroic moment and it would make sense.

I agree with you except on the Negan intro and Glenn's death. I hardly feel the show recovered after that and definitely fans stopped watching (including myself). At some point it just becomes death for shock factors sake. I didn't like when the Starks were killed at the red wedding but it definitely fit within the context and narrative of the show. Idk, just something felt different about Glenn.

Artax’s death was the first time a movie made me cry! I was good until Atreyu said “Artax, you gotta fight! You’re letting the sadness win!”😭😭

what bothers me is when a character receives trauma that would almost certainly kill, maim, and disable in real life and the character walks away with a nearly a scratch.

Excellent video. ST is swollen with characters to the point they’re losing gravitas. I want to see more development with less faces And yes. That means killing

Yo every video you produce is high-quality and detailed, and even if I don't agree with a take (and this one I certainly do), you explain it perfectly- So thanks a ton

I was so upset when Max didn't die in season 4, such a wasted great moment for death

Seeing how Hopper's arc in season 4 was pretty pointless, his death should have been permanent!

I think the episode 9 villain could’ve just been a Snoke clone. it probably would’ve been pretty intimidating knowing that there’s an indefinite number of Snokes ready to be woken up if the prime is killed.

You can’t just start killing characters willy nilly like in GOT, it only works there because of the story. The deaths need to have meaning/repercussions and affect the story. Dealing with death is complicated in life as it is in fiction. That is the sad truth.

The deaths of Opie and Tara in SOA hit me hard when I was in high school

I was JUST talking to my gf about this yesterday about while I enjoy ST, it's a miracle that most of those kids survived this far. Plot armor in this show is insane.

Buffy tVS was an interesting example. It took until late in S2 to kill a character the viewers were fond of (though some recurring, sympathetic characters had died earlier). It was only in S5 that a member of the main cast, and eventually in S6, one of the Scooby Gang properly speaking, died. So it was very sparse compared to GoT, but it did happen, which kept the tension, even though the main characters survived an objectively implausible amount of life-threatening situations.

I understood Glen and Abraham dying in Walking Dead, I just personally felt like it was a little too gratuitous. I get they were trying to go for gritty realism and impact, and that they were trying to stick to the source material, but the way it was shot and displayed almost felt disrespectful to a character we’d come to love

Wash on Serenity was a main character death that was earned. “I’m a leaf on the wind, watch how I s-“

When characters constantly die, then get revived, or didn't actually die, it gives off this sense of invincibility that eventually gets annoying because you start feeling like none of the actions matter. "Oh, this character is facing ten monsters with a pencil. Well, they're gonna be fine cause the creators don't want them to die." I also feel it makes the rewatch value lessen. Like, if I were to rewatch Squid Game, I'm not gonna care about that character's death because they just come back later and I know it (not saying who in case people reading haven't seen it yet.) However, when I rewatch something where the character does die, like Glenn in the Walking Dead, I get emotional every time, both when it happens and as it gets closer. And while it does hurt, it's at least making me feel emotions instead of feeling empty because nothing mattered. There is one way that this revive trope works I feel, and that's in Doctor Who. While the Doctor does come back through regeneration, they come back as an entirely new person, personality and all. It works even better when you take into consideration every Doctor that regenerates, at least in Modern Doctor Who, dreads the regeneration because they know it means they're gone, with Ten once saying "Even if I change, it still feels like dying. Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away, and I'm dead." Because of this, every time a specific Doctor regenerates, it still hurts regardless of the knowledge that the Doctor as a whole continues. Obviously not everything should follow Doctor Who's step, otherwise it'd begin to feel bland, but it at least shows that there are ways to make the reviving trope not feel so empty and pointless like Stranger Things is doing.

I dunno, I'm fine with mains not dying. Its cool if 1 dies but if you go Walking Dead the show in no way resembles itself by the end. Millie is saying that because 11 is the ONLY character that can't be killed.

The fact that the Stranger Things universe is so dangerous makes it necessary for characters to die...

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If I didn’t know better I’d say it was a contract obligation thing. Even if you don’t kill people off you can do things to make characters move away from screen time every episode. For example, what are Mike, Will and Jonathan really adding at this point?

Yeah. The stakes feel really low when the only meaningful characters to bite it are one introduced for that purpose and a quasi-villain. But the Duffers are reluctant to do that because they have the analytics that a lot of parents let their kids watch the show. No one wants to deal with a distraught 12-year-old whose favorite character met a grisly end. Still.. good season, with some great set pieces and a nice theme about remembering the people and music you love to get you through the darkest places

I still think Steve should had died this last season, it would have been soul crushing specially after that moment he had with Nancy, and it would have made Vecna even more of a devastating villain giving us a great payoff when they actually beat him

Where did you get the music for this I been looking for this for years

Havent watched the video yet, just saw the title and im THINKING THE SAME THING! And i think that character should be nancy or Johnathan or steve or dusty or two of them.

I wouldn’t say they HAVE to die, but if it makes sense and improves the story then yeah you should probably do it. Major character deaths can have a major impact if done right.

We saw the seeds of this being planted with Bobs death in season two. There was no reason for him to be in the show at all other than to kill him off after having Joyce fall in love with him even thought she could’ve just been with Hopper, but they couldn’t kill hopper so they had to create a character to get mildly invested in but not so invested that the audience mourns the loss, only Joyce.

There are too many big groups in the show where some characters no longer make individual contributions to the story. Maya Hawke as Robin is the worst example: great character in S3, serves as a ploy to Steve's development and her detective work alongside Dustin complements Steve's dim-witted courage perfectly. In S4 she does nothing (except the one scene in the psych warden's office), because there isn't any room for her to have something to do. This is a problem throughout the show now: Jonathan, Mike, Will, Steve, Erica, and even Dustin don't go through any significant development. There are so many other elements to focus on, these characters kind of just stand around and say their lines. The Duffers need to trim the fat somewhere. IMO, bringing Hopper back removed all the weight to Eleven's grief in early S4. I think they should have kept him dead and it would have been far more impactful, and we could focus on the way Joyce and Murray interplay. The Russia stuff in S4 was fun but to me felt a little infantilizing, and irrelevant. The S4 Joyce + Murray plot could have been literally anything. Max could have died at the end of the season. She had the best story in the season and the tragedy would have been extremely potent. Eddie could have lived (and we could actually get more Eddie), and in his place DBs could have actually killed Steve, like they were teasing all season. That would give Nancy and even Jonathan and Dustin emotional fuel and complexity for the final season. Now imagine the gang trying to beat the final boss (Vecna in S5) to avenge the deaths of Steve and Max. Avenging Eddie just doesn't carry the same weight. It's okay to let the show get heavier. The kids are grown up, and so are the fans. Harry Potter gradually dialed up the seriousness as the kids got older and it worked for the story. Cedric Diggory's death, although a minor character, symbolizes the changing of the tone in that story. The lighter adventures of the first 3 years were over. Voldemort was back, even children could be killed, and things were going to get worse. Stranger Things could benefit from that model.

They can take notes from GOT. Kill off big loved characters, and the big hated characters. When one hero or villain dies, you raise up others, it’s really not hard to do so. Edit: Oh, Millie said exactly what I was thinking!

Thank you for making this! I have felt this way ever since hopper was confirmed to be alive and it's stopping me from genuinely enjoying the show. Some of my friends are big fans, so I hope season 5 ropes me back in.

So true all of it. this no death trope is Becoming so evident in all media and it needs to stop. Death carries weight. It’s hard and hurts we can’t escape it in real life so i understand we don’t want in our escapism- however this helps us cope and more importantly teach us to have hope. this is what creates an inspirational story not a constant spectacle

You made me remember Artax, and I just wanted you to know that I was unprepared for those emotions today.

Max became one of my favourite characters and her death would have cemented season 4 as a favourite who tragically died

As much as I HATE some of the major characters in shows/movies being killed off, it really has to be done sometimes.

i also found myself getting pissed off with how this show never kills main characters. the stakes are so low at this point, and they always get you amped up and raise the staked so high just for the main characters to be fine. i adored the most recent season's plot and jamie bowers character and plotline but it really is frustrating how the stakes are never set high.

You just made my heart soar with that Neverending Story comparison, my favorite movie of all time that never gets talked about enough