Why the A-12 Avenger II Makes More Sense Today

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The A-12 Avenger II was a flying wing carrier-based attack aircraft concept for the Navy. See what could have been - and what happened.
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@Ob1sdarkside 8 ай бұрын

Top gun 2 would have been a short movie with this plane

@BrunoViniciusCampestrini 8 ай бұрын

TBF, it would be a short movie with the F-35 too. But that would be way less entertaining.

@lightspeedvictory 8 ай бұрын

Tomahawk don’t need GPS. F-35 can carry laser guided bombs. The whole film is pointless!

@WolfeSaber9933 8 ай бұрын

@@lightspeedvictoryLaser guided need line of sight, right in that nest of SAM launchers. The F-35s would be vulnerable, even with stealth, especially if the enemy knows about the "invisible man in the rain" scenario that helped to bring out that F-117 in the Middle East.

@bjjace1 4 ай бұрын

Top Gun 2 “ mission would have gone to the F35C, but that would make a shit movie

@Dagreatdudeman 8 ай бұрын

I'm sure the Navy would appreciate a long range stealth bomber right now. Great work Photog.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Agreed and thank you! Thanks for being a long time subscriber to my channel. -Tog

@silentblackhole 8 ай бұрын

Like the B-2 and the B-21? lol

@PerSon-xg3zr 8 ай бұрын

@@silentblackholeAren't those a little big to be on carriers?

@zaco-km3su 7 ай бұрын

This wasn't a bomber, it was an attack aircraft. The US Navy would need a 2nd generation stealth attack aircraft/bomber for this. Other countries are developing stealth detecting radar so the US Navy needs stealth technology that won't be detected by stealth detecting radar. The A-12 at this point is outdated. They need to start from scratch.

@zaco-km3su 7 ай бұрын

@@silentblackhole Not really. They need something different.

@Chimpunk729 8 ай бұрын

It is easy to imagine an operational A-12 if it is develop by Northrop Grumman today.

@johnreese4717 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! I greatly appreciate the support!

@bdh985 8 ай бұрын

Great video as always, hope you're doing better! The A-12 Avenger II would have been a great aircraft. If I had anything to add, it would be that the litigation over the cancellation went on for something like 20 years. I find that story almost as interesting as the aircraft itself.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the super comment! You make a great point and that is something I should have covered in this video - perhaps a topic for a future video.

@kotabear151 8 ай бұрын

Good stuff! I really enjoyed that! Keep them coming! 😀

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Copy that and will do!

@camrsr5463 8 ай бұрын

Well done as always. Congrats on 100k....it will happen soon! Glad to be a part of this journey.

@PlaneSaddles 8 ай бұрын

I still think it's funny that the only full size wooden mock up is at the Ft Worth Aviation Museum

@FloridaManMatty 8 ай бұрын

Dude! There was a LEGIT A-12 Canopy for sale on eBay years ago! 😂 They had built mock-ups and had the canopy glass laying around when the program was cancelled and somehow, someone ended up with it and decided to sell it in 2011. Not sure how that ended…

@thomaspohl5845 8 ай бұрын

Great video and great concept you came up with. However, Northrop Grumman's actual design for the program resembles a mini B-21.

@JSFGuy 8 ай бұрын

Did see the notice and just now opened it. Looking forward to it.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Awesome! I'll post in members section and Patreon as well for others to see - glad you can make it!

@markjames8603 8 ай бұрын

🛸🛸🛸🛸🛸 Awesome!!!

@JSFGuy 8 ай бұрын

A lot of the articles on this A12 were reported to be over Kansas my home state.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

I can imagine - lots going on back then

@FIREBRAND38 8 ай бұрын

Well, seeing as how it was never built....

@JSFGuy 8 ай бұрын

@@FIREBRAND38 that would be a concept demonstrator pre-production. There is always 1 or 3-5 of them built up for proof positive demonstration.

@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P 8 ай бұрын

SO Happy for ya, 'Tog'.....close to reaching your 100K 'Subs'!!! Your passion, is Our passion as well!!! This is an EXCITING video..... I Love how it looks.... from the single-man cockpit to that saw-toothed trailing edge to the weaps capability!!!

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Thank you and thanks for being a member! Glad you liked the concept aircraft and more content on the way!

@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P 8 ай бұрын

@@PilotPhotog Thanks, 'Tog'..... I Always look forward in seeing your content, your narration is Just SO Good!! (no "umms", "ands", ahhhhhs" that I do when doing those narrations). And of Course ..... Those animations.... W O W !!! You do those Yourself??!! (who knew!?!) You have a lot of planes that I have models of, I Just haven't gotten around to build them yet ( F-16XL, and this A-12 Avenger ), and I would LOVE to share them with ya!! Lastly, Keep Up the Great Work!!! USN Veteran Loves Your Content!!!

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

@@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P thank you, thank you, thank you! I spend a lot of time recording audio, doing retakes, and making sure everything sounds just right. And yes, I learned how to make these animations myself so that I could show what I was talking about. I am very honored that someone who was in the fleet such as yourself values my content - to me there is no higher praise - Bravo Zulu to you sir! -Tog

@jimmiller5600 8 ай бұрын

Reminder -- 1991 had seen the fall of the Iron Curtain and the USSR beginning to fall apart. China was a mess. Getting funding for $BB to fight "who?" played a big role in the cancellation.

@pat8988 8 ай бұрын

Rumor has it that the A-12 is coming back as the Navy’s Sixth Generation fighter.

@timbaskett6299 8 ай бұрын

If the Navy had bought the A-12, I could see the Air Force buying a version.....Perhaps a B-25 Mitchell II?

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

I like the way you think!

@mikeet69 8 ай бұрын

Perhaps instead of the B-21 Raider or as an A-10 replacement? Who knows what might have been.

@susanartigas7498 8 ай бұрын

Keep up the good work. Love your videos.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@brianholmon4346 8 ай бұрын

The B-52 is a favorite would love seeing your take on this remarkable Aircraft.

@ninus17 8 ай бұрын

Especially the new B-52J variant with the new RR engines

@mr.nemesis6442 8 ай бұрын

I would imagine the NGAD being a more advanced version of the A-12.

@appa609 8 ай бұрын

The crinkle cut trailing edge is a thing you'll see a lot on edges like engine nozzles and access panel edges because they have no choice but planform alignment works much better when the edges are long compared to the wavelength. If Northrop was designing it they would have probably ended up with a solution very similar to the B-21.

@jonniiinferno9098 8 ай бұрын

great video on the A-12 Dorito - and THANK YOU - for all the great content you produce !!

@dodgedemonsrtx 8 ай бұрын

Oh my god this is so awasome.

@BarrettCharlebois 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if conformal fuel tanks could be shaped so they blend with the body, and change the shape in just the right way to make the body produce more lift. Basically a conformal fuel tank that adds some extra airfoil, which may help with the extra weight. It could have RAM coatings and no right angles, possibly reducing the stealth signature compared to drop tanks. IDK, I know stealth and aerodynamics are often counterintuitive and require testing to find out, but the concept to me seems worth a cursory look

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

they certainly would be more stealthy than conventional drop tanks - thanks for being a subscriber!

@bartfoster1311 8 ай бұрын

A-12 made me think of Oxcart at first. I'm sure we will see quite a few more flying wings in the future, the tech just had to catch up. Early congrats on 100k!

@mikewaterfield3599 8 ай бұрын

Northrop Grumman or more accurate Grumman had owned the flight deck for decades. The iron and the shadow are well matched.

@jordanmascarenhas7974 8 ай бұрын

Grumman ironworks baby! Long Island, NY was known as Naval Aviation’s factory. Still lots of Grummanites sharing their stories here and there

@Chimpunk729 8 ай бұрын

Perfect!

@FreekaPista 8 ай бұрын

Super cool video, great visual effects

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

thank you and you've been a long time subscriber - much appreciated - you've seen my animating skills evolve!

@Overneed-Belkan-Witch 8 ай бұрын

This could be reality since Lockheed - Skunkworks are now working on NGAD similar design to this

@Provocateur3 8 ай бұрын

Too much, too soon. Nevertheless, had this been a USAF program, they would have drowned it in money until it worked. Recall the history of the TFX. They used to say, "You can make a barn door fly if you spend enough money." Turns out, the USAF did just that.

@charleshopkins3817 8 ай бұрын

Great video! Here’s to getting to 100k soon.

@mikewaterfield3599 8 ай бұрын

Hey Jack Northrop would have smiled. There is no more efficient or naturally stealthy aircraft than a fully blended flying wing. The Horton’s stumbled on it, Jack Northrop perfected it, The spirit is the culmination.

@bluemarlin8138 8 ай бұрын

Fortunately, he at least got to see the B-2 be developed.

@ViciousDelicious. 7 ай бұрын

I have loved the Concept behind the ATA since i first laid eyes on it. I think Both A-11 and A-12 were Beautiful Planes.

@kenshaffer5664 8 ай бұрын

It's ironic that this is exactly the aircraft the Navy needs today for the Pacific theater...

@grindkerensky 8 ай бұрын

You should do a video on how you make your videos, I am definitely interested in that, doing 3d work myself.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

I've actually considered starting a second channel to do behind the scenes work - stay tuned! Thank you for being a long time subscriber as well.

@grindkerensky 8 ай бұрын

@@PilotPhotog Oh I sure will do that! Thanks for making interesting content! Btw seeing the F-23 on a carrier reminded me of my F-23 navalized version. With the IRST sensor and two seated it really gives off that Boss energy the F-14 had.

@chandrachurniyogi8394 8 ай бұрын

should have been named as the A-12 Intruder II . . . the naval carrier borne A-6E Intruder maritime multi role ground attack fighter lacked an internal cannon . . . could have done with a 25 MM GAU-12/U three-barrel rotary cannon with 260 rounds of 25 MM . . . big mistake on the navy's part . . . and by the way gun pods was not the answer . . .

@maxstoner5527 8 ай бұрын

Great video. I’ve come to the conclusion that politics and money ruin everything. How many great planes from all over the world were cancelled cause of these two things.

@jordanmascarenhas7974 8 ай бұрын

Money is a good reason. Politics, not so much

@maxstoner5527 8 ай бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 not sure money is what should make the world go round. Seems money proceeds evil. But yes your point is still true ✌️

@bertg.6056 8 ай бұрын

Outstanding video, thanks !

@aussiefan354 8 ай бұрын

Great article as usual mate. Keep up the good work.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Much appreciated

@rossmunro7084 8 ай бұрын

Love your vids. Looking forward to many, many more :)

@subhashanasandaruwan8732 8 ай бұрын

Amazing video. I really enjoyed that.🎉❤

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

thank you!

@citizenblue 8 ай бұрын

Would definitely be nice to have this in the bag of tricks for the US Navy in the Pacific now

@chollythecrazycorgihesinsa6505 4 ай бұрын

Another great video!!

@aurorajones8481 8 ай бұрын

Well done!

@jimmiller5600 8 ай бұрын

MD-GD won the contract with a $8 billion bid. NG wanted $12. Years later GD came back and said gimme $B more. Cancelled. (there were other issues, but NG should have won the contract based on its B2 progress up the learning curve).

@rickykurniawann 8 ай бұрын

Imagine an alternate universe US Navy with A-12, JSF and NATF all proceed to operational phase. Probably there would be enough budget for a dedicated S-3 replacement and unmanned tanker. But if the A-12 finally operational, would the Navy come with AEA version of A-12, or stick with JSF's EW capability?

@Dos895 8 ай бұрын

Love your version of the hypothetical Northrop Grumman A-12 Avenger. Looks better than the McDonnell Douglas version imo. By chance is your version available as a 3D model?

@Pro-Zilla 6 ай бұрын

I wish this was a model kit, I want this on my shelf

@cliffwoodbury5319 8 ай бұрын

A battlefield command center in the sky - the display of F-21 would have more slanted fins and changed body type to make more stealthy, but the A-12 would have been an asset no matter what aircraft it was around.

@johnw.dowding8669 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for creating this, I worked for a company that was manufacturing about 120 PNs for this air frame. When the program was canceled the parts finished or any other stage were shipped at PO direction. Wonder what happened to those parts?

@johnn1250 8 ай бұрын

I think if the A-12 was successful, i don't think the F-14 ST-21 would have happened either way. I think we would have had a FA-XX (NGAD) sooner or a YF-23/F-22 for the navy. As the USN would have wanted to capitalized on the lessons learned from the A-12, with the FA-XX or a fighter version of the A-12.

@lordtartarsauceb8348 8 ай бұрын

Is it possible and feasible to produce this today?

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Possible - yes, I think the biggest hurdle would be cost though

@lynnrinaldo6795 7 ай бұрын

BAD ASS! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALIKIN' ABOUT!

@jamesviolette3rd463 2 ай бұрын

They could still build it.. it looks like The B2 and B21 took alot from A12 though .. It's just so cool that it folds up and operates off carriers .. That's a nice capability right there.

@StereoSpace 8 ай бұрын

Another example of the DoD managing a project so badly - it was so late and so far over budget - that it was canceled.

@SPak-rt2gb 8 ай бұрын

Wasn't their a Flying Dorito caught on camera over Texas around that time.

@immaengineer 8 ай бұрын

My only problem with all of the renderings I see, is that there is never enough space for fuel and the major subsystems.

@Chimpunk729 8 ай бұрын

Yes. Major instrument can be put behind the cockpit just like MIG 35

@immaengineer 8 ай бұрын

@@Chimpunk729 Not quite… you’d have to work at an aircraft company to understand the number of subsystems that are integrated into 5th/6th gen platforms… there are several tons of payload and fuel.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

It is a fair point, the production aircraft would likely be taller/thicker to accommodate more volume, thanks for commenting!

@piotrd.4850 8 ай бұрын

Ah, imagine GE YF-120 engine and it's variants going to A-12 and navalised variant of F-22; F-23 flying in the Air Force; 120 B-2s in bomber and stealh tanker role. 30+ Seawolfs lurking below.

@bigmike9128 8 ай бұрын

Maybe the us fxx ngad fighter will share some similarities with the A12.

@appa609 8 ай бұрын

Examine the S-duct geometry on the YF-23. You need a more pronounced bend to effectively shield the compressor blades. Each additional scattering off a ram coated surface attenuates the reflection.

@olsonspeed 8 ай бұрын

Another very promising project ahead of it's time that was abandoned too soon. Time for another try?

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

I would argue yes, thanks for commenting!

@theayeguy5226 8 ай бұрын

Your 3D renderings are really nice, but it's just not an A-12 as seen in the declassified mockup photos

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Appreciate the feedback, this is just my take based on some assumptions - thanks for being a subscriber!

@Idahoguy10157 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a ‘back to the future’ project for Grumman-Northrop. A YA-13?

@phantom7531 8 ай бұрын

Maybe the new ngad be will be close to the avenger if they are still pushing for stealth and range and be able to hold a lot of ordnance. It would make more sense for something like this or close to it .

@appa609 8 ай бұрын

What's the design intent for yaw inputs? Differential drag? Differential thrust? Proverse yaw?

@James-9999 8 ай бұрын

Ngad looking good

@dreamhunter2973 8 ай бұрын

I bet the Navy now regrets axing both the A-12 Avenger and the ST 21 super Tomcat now....😂😂😂

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

Agreed, this is why I think FA-XX will almost have to happen - thanks for being a long time subscriber!

@dreamhunter2973 8 ай бұрын

@@PilotPhotog Thanks!! Great work as always bro 😃

@MrCateagle 6 ай бұрын

NGC "no bid" on the A-12 contract because their experience taught them that what the Navy wanted was not compatible with what Congress was willing to pay.

@FloridaManMatty 10 күн бұрын

Don’t be surprised when the Navy NGAD fighter comes out bearing a striking resemblance to the A-12. Northrop Grumman and Boeing will get that contract as primaries. 😊

@Scott11078 8 ай бұрын

I think multi crew is still the way to go. There's several things the second member could do. The biggest thing being a manager of several drones.

@bernardkim8906 8 ай бұрын

Dick Cheney, like with McNamara, is responsible for so many things that went wrong with military assets, especially aviation. Butterfly away both, aviation will be very different

@jordanmascarenhas7974 8 ай бұрын

Yes, but at least under McNamara, that cheapness and 1-size-fits-all logic worked with the F-4 Phanthom II and he was also responsible for the Navy seeing the writing on the wall about the Naval variant of the F-111 (F-111B) not being suitable for deck operations, and green-lit the F-14 program, which went through the design phase rapidly and into production within just a couple years. Dick Cheney on the other hand, was completely worthless. Killed off the F-14 instead of upgrading or ordering the F-14E Super Tomcat 21, with its reduced maintenance requirements, longer air frame hours, AESA radar, super cruise capability, extended internal fuel capacity and ordnance carrying capacity that is severely lacking now that we have WW3 with China on the horizon. His greatest claim to fame was that he presided over genius US General Norman Schwarzkopf in his shellacking of the 4th biggest military in the world in 1990.

@bernardkim8906 8 ай бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 I concede the point on McNamara, even though I still am enraged about him killing the Valkyrie bomber and the XF-108 as well. Cheney's reasoning on the Tomcat being old technology, I call BS on that because plenty of "old aircraft" are still very capable in their roles (the Turks upgrading the Phantoms is one strong example). And Cheney was incredibly shortsighted, as even the USSR didn't exist anymore, it wouldn't be long before another rival took its place. Being behind the curve is deadly, and that's where those like Cheney put us

@interpl6089 8 ай бұрын

Fun fact: the Gripen uses variant of the engine from this aircraft

@paulbaker9277 8 ай бұрын

The gripen engine Its the same as the F18 but modified as far as I'm aware of .

@racerrob5547 8 ай бұрын

A-12 was constrained to improve the existing F/A-18 engine. They didn't have the funds to design what it needed - a new engine.

@interpl6089 8 ай бұрын

@@racerrob5547 A-12 was supposed to use the F412 engine which turned into the F414 after the project was cancelled, that was used in the F/A-18 and Gripen, that's why i stated that ''the Gripen uses variant''

@bogeyman7436 8 ай бұрын

There will never be a single mission bomber on an aircraft carrier, only multirole craft.

@Idahoguy10157 8 ай бұрын

IIRC the USAF intended to replace the F-111 with the A-12

@dl6519 8 ай бұрын

Imo Northrop winning the contract was unlikely. An unarticulated but high priority of the Pentagon is maintaining a competitive industrial base , which means having multiple high-end-capable aerospace manufacturers, and Northrop already had the B-2. Fast-forward to today, and Northrop recently DROPPED OUT of the Air Force's NGAD competition because they ALREADY had a contract to build a 6th Generation combat aircraft, the B-21. So unless the Lockheed and Boeing entries were total cr@p there is no way the contract would go to Northrop. (Lockheed will win the NGAD contract, and Boeing will win contracts for support aircraft.) That bit of drudgery aside, this is THE BEST A-12 VIDEO on KZfaq, and yes I have seen them all. Kudos!!

@AleronRattan Ай бұрын

Does it look kinda like the B-2 bomber?

@user-ol9zy3hp5v 8 ай бұрын

왜 가오리 형태 말고 삼각형으로 B-21을 만들지 못할까 생각했는데 이 영상을 보고 삼각형을 만들면 뒷부분을 톱니 형태로 만들어야 함을 알았습니다. 레이더 반사때문에 톱니 형태가 되는것은 어쩔수 없지만 디자인도 반사가 되는군요.

@MrCateagle 6 ай бұрын

It makes sense, but it needs better program organization and management if it is to succeed. From all I've heard, the even distribution of responsibility between the two partners handicapped final decision making and caused several development problems.

@ericclausen6772 8 ай бұрын

If they can't see you on radar and you have Visual Stealth and your exhaust is cooled so heatseekers ain't gonna be able to get a weapons grade lock can pick up other Fighters with longer range radar and missiles you just fire your salvos and turn around and go back home and stay out of dogfights it you destroy your enemies before they even know that you are there

@travisanderson4933 8 ай бұрын

Dear sir could you put in takeson top

@hilarybrown2271 8 ай бұрын

The first 40 seconds was just the xb 70 story

@kempmt1 8 ай бұрын

There was an A-6F version of the A-6 with two non-after burning GE F404 engines in place of its current engines

@jordanmascarenhas7974 8 ай бұрын

The Intruder II. The prop type is on the deck of the USS Intrepid carrier museum in NYC.

@kempmt1 8 ай бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 did it ever fly?

@michaelpass2176 8 ай бұрын

What happens to the aircraft that are not excepted by the military ?

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

This was only ever a concept - I believe in most cases the prototypes are either donated to museums or destroyed - good question!

@wayneyd2 8 ай бұрын

Because of the B2 program.

@HiddenPrior 8 ай бұрын

Is there any chance you could get on Nebula? I am a big fan of your content, but I am moving away from using KZfaq. I would love to be able to still support and follow your content from Nebula.

@PilotPhotog 8 ай бұрын

I would love to be on Nebula, but as I understand it, it is invite only. If you could mention me in a comment over there I would really appreciate it! Thank you!

@ericclausen6772 8 ай бұрын

Just don't dip with the flying Doritos no dipping get it got it good

@yutakago1736 8 ай бұрын

They want all the bell and whistles but still want to want it cheap :D It is like asking to buy a limited edition sport car for $10. :D

@youmad7068 8 ай бұрын

Can you guys make a video about Russian Yak-201, an F35s cousin?

@mr6johnclark 7 ай бұрын

1 Month Later the B-21 Raider takes flight. The A-12 Raider II could make it's return.

@prashantshukla7520 5 ай бұрын

This make sense

@fw1421 8 ай бұрын

And,another McDonnell Douglass/General Dynamics bird. Too bad the Dorito never came to fruition. The real mock-up didn’t look like the video and was smaller in size.

@dickybirdcch 7 ай бұрын

Are there any real photos of the test aircraft? Is it even real?

@travisanderson4933 8 ай бұрын

Blinded body fuel tanks

@zaco-km3su 7 ай бұрын

This blurred the line between attack aircraft and bombers. I wonder if the US Navy didn't want to have a bomber too. Still, this was an aircraft that was of limited capability compared to the F-18.....at least in some aspects. The F-18 does what the A-6 did and more. That's what killed this project. It's worth mentioning that this would have required a LOT of advanced tech at the time. The chances of success weren't that high. Today the F-35 is getting prepared to take over. With the F-35, anything like this is over.....unless it's a drone. Maybe a loitering munition might be developed. One of the pretty big issues is that other countries are developing stealth detecting radars. Its utility today might be reduced.

@Istandby666 8 ай бұрын

Why are you only showing your convept design and not the actual A-12 Avenger?

@floydm.4159 3 ай бұрын

The NGAD borrows heavily from both The YF-23 and the A-12. Northrop Grumman builds better airplanes. Unfortunately Boeing has better lobbyists.

@CajunArson 4 ай бұрын

Not a concept. Does currently exist.

@bitrage. 7 ай бұрын

I'm a fellow 3D Animator, if you ever need modeling/rendering help hit me up!

@Provocateur3 8 ай бұрын

KZfaq: WHERE'S MY SPELL CHECKER? FIX YOUR COMMENTS SUBROUTINE!

@jonathangoode546 7 ай бұрын

Our military needs to stop passing on advanced technology breakthroughs . If we keep the up another one of our enemies will build something greater .

@JsusIsDogBackwards 4 ай бұрын

If i was president i would make it real

@craigbosko2229 8 ай бұрын

Imagine,if it weren't for NORTHRUP GRUMMAN, there would be no FLYING WING AIRCRAFT but then again look at the German's during WW2 towards the end of the war,they came out with a FLYING WING AIRCRAFT !