Yeah to instantly go from a normal person to a women throat slitting organ harvesting and killing lunatic.

He may well have to be honest. Violent crime was very common in Whitechapel at that time time often went unpunished. Bearing in mind he strangled all of his victims before inflicting the wounds, it is plausible he strangled others beforehand. We'll never know unfortunately, though I'd hope he didn't inflict harm on anyone else

I’d wager he is “previous” criminal records, sadly, along with thousands of other likely candidates…

I agree and always thought the Martha Tabram murder might show something of jack building up and showing perhaps a peeping Tom element..Was he watching Ms.Tabram before he stepped forward out of the shadows of a dim lit corridor..Did Jack often creep about watching.Also it’s been put about use of rubber boots worn by jack,,,why.?..Maybe rubber boots helped jack step quietly into places to creep about..If the use of rubber boots was part of early jack did have some truth..Then would rubber boots give clues to Jack’s trade..Sailor,,port worker,fish monger who would know how to use knives..Was jack gutting women like fish really and carving v shaped scales on faces..How one or more theory can spiral..But I can’t believe Jack woke up one day and thought he’d like to try to become the world first recognized serial killer..The victims we know was probably a escalation of crime via a violent and frightening childhood..

@@dthomd Actually only two of the “Canonical Five” were strangled prior to their wounds being inflected, Polly Nichols and Annie Chapman. Liz Stride & Catherine Eddows & Mary Kelly had their throats cut which was the cause of their deaths.

Tbh it's a good thing because these 5 women now won't be forgotten.

Even Mary Kelly would be forgotten with the gruesome crime scene pictures? For years I’d only heard of Jack the Ripper but didn’t read a book or see a documentary about him. I think I’d watched a few Ripper knockoff movies. Anyway, I’d have to say when I finally saw those pictures; the one in particular, I was extremely shocked.at the level of mutilation to her face and body. You can see bones sticking out and her face is complete mush. Seemingly, that would remain in infamy.

Or he would have been given another gruesome moniker. The main reason why he is so famous is partly because the press quite recently had been demonopolized in England, and partly because that The Ripper reached world notoriety because of intercontinental telegraph lines that news agencies used.

@@FlamespeedyAMV Good point.

@@TheIndependentLens I think Mary Kelly's murder makes me believe it was maybrick. She does look a lot like his wife and the mutilation of her face is a sign that killer saw something in his victim that reminded him of someone in his personal life

Imo tabram was an earlier victim and it was the amount of stab wounds he had to inflict to kill her that led to him changing his MO. He simply chose to cut their throats to kill them quicker and avoid being caught.

@@mrdarren1045 The way the women's throats were slit (2 cuts, with the second one through the windpipe to channel the blood into the body) is indicative of a perp. with military training. Special forces still SILENTLY kill by this method. It is very quick and prevents the victim from crying out for help.

I think this knife skill and knowledge of killing persons rules out Lechmere.

I think it's possible Tabrum was his first "frenzied assault"...but I do not think Stride was a Ripper Victim....

Tabrum was a victim, stride and Kelly probably weren't!

Wow. That's very spooky! And so interesting - thank you for sharing.

Great story thanks for sharing

Interesting story, but I feel it would be very unlikely that 'Jack' would have worn a top hat and cape...Simply because in that rough part of London, such a person would have stood out a mile. He is far more likely, in my opinion, to have been a working man, say a horse slaughterer, {there were many in London} and his occupation would have made him being ''bloody'' normal.

Why would a newspaper report on where a walls stones came from?

That is really intriguing. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you.

Because Martha Tabram wasn't a ripper victim, nor anyone else after Mary Kelly was murdered. Mary Kelly was the last one to be killed because she had gone into hiding because she had sussed she was going to be next, which is probably why she was discovered indoors. The late Stephen Knight hit the nail on the head with who the ripper was.

@@Embracing01 she was out and about the night of her murder though

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I don’t think is a stretch to consider they’re were more than one killer with the (5). The police released the details so the people knew they were mutilated. But whose to say if Jack the Ripper had even just a few more seconds with each of the victims that he would have done way more mutilation. What if he was just interrupted or thought that someone was coming so he couldn’t do what he wanted to with each one. Every victim he had a different amount of time with.

@@tysonthomas6029 Mary Kelly, killed in the privacy of her rented room, with a lot of mutilation indicates that her "JtR" was able to take his time.

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That part of the city was very very crowded over crowed there were at least 8. The ripper was interrupted or disturbed just like the famous two night kill.

I like the theory that JFK was his final victim.

If anything he probably killed other people during the same times he killed these 5 women but did it in very different ways so it looks like a different person did it. Hell that's that's I would do if wanted to never get caught.

@@FlamespeedyAMV I agree mate, my theory is Charles Allen Lechmere who worked at pickfords yard who had his own horse n cart which was for delivering meat carcasses so he would have easily fitted in. Most serial killers kill around where they know best, Lechmere killed Martha 1st she lived near where he used to live hes MO changed his walks to and from work past all canonical 5 victims and I feel he killed more than were told or know of just my opinion guys let me know what you think thanks

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Thank you, Mathew.

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Thank you, very kind of you to say so.

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Who ever killed Mary Kelly was just the nastiest piece of work and not mentally gone.like Ted Bundy for example.

@@leslierock5005 Bundy WAS beginning to unravel at the end though. He was a smart guy, used to being in control, but in the end the pressure got to him and he got sloppy and more brutal. Still, his last kills were nothing compared to what was done to Mary.

@@JMurdochNZ yeah Bundy was a psychopath,but he wasn't insane,even by the the time he was executed he wasn't insane.

Mary Kelly's murder has convinced me that maybrick was the killer. His wife and her look a lot alike

One of the best comments I've seen concerning MO, signature and victimology in regard to this case 👍

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Glad you enjoyed it, Mark.

I agree with you. I think Elizabeth Strides murder was more than likely a domestic and the murder of Mary Jane Kelly was commited by a person very well known to her. I also see the other 3 murders as random acts by a crazy misogynist, but MJK's murder was personal.

Highly unlikely there were TWO killers that slit throats of ladies of the night in a very close area of time and space that morning. The Ripper was almost certainly disturbed after killing Stride. The location and timing fits in perfectly with him then moving to the Aldgate area and finding another victims to satisfy his blood lust. Ted Bundy did similar after his kidnapping of Carol DaRonch failed. He drove elsewhere and killed poor Debbie Kent. Id give Stride a 90% chance of being a Ripper victim.

The burned clothes could have had more to do with the murderers escape plan. At the time it was still believed (initially even by the attending police) that sniffer dogs were on call. This could literally have been his attempt to throw those imaginary dogs off the scent. As most murderers do not go around with a change of clothes I am going to assume he changed into some he found at the scene. Clothing belonging to Joe Barnett perhaps.

Dont agree with the Kelly theory.. I think he had perfected his craft by then and wanted a house murder to have longer with the victim unlike out on the street where there was an obvious need to rush.

@@lyndoncmp5751 Not necessarily. There were women being murdered both before and after the Whitechapel murders too, and it’s far from unlikely that an “ordinary” murder was committed while Jack The Ripper operating as well. And then there’s the matter with Jack being seen while committing the murder, not only by one, but by two witnesses, and even talking to them. It just doesn’t fit the profile and it doesn’t fit Jack’s known modus operandi. And bear in mind that if the Themes Torso Murders weren’t the handywork of the Ripper, then you not only have a a random killing at the same time as the Ripper, but in fact a second serial killer in London. Between 11 September and 17 October 1888, the dismembered remains of a woman were discovered at three different sites in the centre of the city. This was literally just a couple of days after Annie Chapman was murdered in Hanbury Street by the Ripper. The Themes Torso Killer claimed three additional victims as well.

Glad you think so!

I am sure the Ripper and the torso murderer were one and the same.

The Mary Kelly murderer had enough time to do a lot of mutilation.

What's your crazy theory?

@@GeorgeFreeman55 hello, first the context, he knew the 5 victims, he knew their background, and second, it is known that serial killers increase violence and most of the time they send clues to the police. Jack did that but the violence shown in Mary doesn't have a record. So now my theory. As I said Jack knew the 5 victims. And he was in love or infatuated with Mary They were acquaintances, right i am sure the five have shared a table in the ten Bell pub. So Jack knew or thought it was possible to see Mary there she was younger than the others. She has been married but for a short period. So she was like a naive woman to his eyes And she wasn't as bad as the other five victims. She wasn't an alcoholic, she has never had children, so she had potential as a wife(according to that time) So, first Jack talked to Mary Nichols about his feelings for Mary Kelly, of course, Nichols was drunk and laugh at him and he cut her throat to silence her laugh. And then he stabbed her furious. It isn't a coincidence, that the crimes didn't stop there. Jack had a goal, Mary Kelly, so he was going to try again. And then Annie becomes his second victim. With her, the legend took shape. I am sure as far I can know that he tried to conquer Mary again. Being rejected by the young woman. How this woman could choose prostitution and decline what he was offering, a good life a husband etc, and that is when stride and eddowes appeared. Stride could have been the only victim that night. But he saw the second man and stranger able to see him and heard what he was saying to stride. And he silenced her and walked away. But there was a problem the adrenaline on his systems was so strong that he was exhilarated. That is why he chose to do something when he met Eddows. The violence against her was unnecessary, he was furious. He took her, her beauty and took his time with her taking off several organs. He was Jack after all. He was the man to whom everyone was speaking to now. He was going to show Mary how dangerous the area was and how good catch was him after all. But that doesn't work. The fury against Mary was brutal. I presume he spoke to her again. This time he was sure she was going to say yes. Who wouldn't be? After all the killer was doing what he wanted. the police were useful. Work on the street wasn't safe those days. But Mary said no again and that was all he had killed 4 women as proof of his" love for her" and now she was saying no again! That was not possible. and he killed Mary in the most brutal, violent and horrible way. And then he disappeared .for real? I am not sure about this, after all, jack was a phantom nobody had seen his face for real. So for me, he didn't leave the area, he just stood there leaving a normal life mourning the loss of what in his head had been his "true love" and died alone in a dark corner on street in Whitechapel. Do not get me wrong this theory has nothing to do with a romantic story. On the contrary, is an example of how a delusional mind can create horror and destruction when it is not under control

@@ileananicolari7121 thank you for writing that, it was good to read and an interesting theory

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Maybe it is meant to be ironic?

I think Elizabeth Stride was potentially someone else.

Killers on this scale don't just start nor stop out of nowhere. Imo

Most definitely

It would be interesting to see this theory examined here .I agree its the most convincing so far .

There are other connections like they all being prostitutes and drunk.The killer showed signs of anti semitism and prostitution hate

I myself think that the main “canonical” five killings were likely connected with the possible exception of Liz Stride who might or might not have been killed in a lover’s quarrel, The other four killings show a progression in savagery and brutality in killing and disemboweling that IMHO go beyond just random criminal acts of Whitechapel thugs and culminated in Mary Kelly’s last night on earth in Miller’s Court.

If you are talking about kosminski he was not the Ripper, DNA evidence found would exclude him not implicate him, he was also mostly non violent having only ever attacking his sister with a knife, he wasn't institutionalized until 1891 and he did not die till 1919

I think it was because after fleeing to America Jack settled down and became a hard working Stan up guy.. He worked on a ranch and also run a bordello which had to shut down as all the workers kept dying. It's rumoured the Rippers gran daughter got a job at the Whitehouse and was seduced by JFK and the Ripper got his ghastly revenge

How would the body be transported? Hand cart? Pony & cart? Two strong men? Most of the people in the area of Whitechapel were very poor. For them a pony and cart would be a luxury item.

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This was the era when forensics was in its infancy. Fingerprints were "high-tech" during the time.

Why would a person who only wants to silence someone stick around long enough to mutilate the corpse?