The Empire defeated all the giant corporations that bullied small systems...then took their place as the bullies.

I miss the old legends empire where they redeemed themselves and became a pseudo republic

Another good mark for Pellaeon: he loved clones. _Loved_ them. During the Clone War, Pellaeon commanded the RAS _Leveler,_ and can be quoted on a number of occasions complaining about the uselessness of nonclone crewmen, even wishing for the old days where a commander "could throw a useless minion out the airlock." When a number of clone crewmen were killed at the Battle of JanFathal, he elected to find fellow troopers they had been close with to extend his condolences in the same vein of sending a next-of-kin letter. Top man, Pellaeon.

Gilad Pellean was a good leader of the Imperial Remnent

Honestly, the sequels should have done something with the legends warlord empire's. The first order just feels like empire 2.0 but without the cool admiral's and legend content.

The Imperial Remnant somehow still feels more impressive than the New Order. Plus it actually addressed the positive aspects of the Empire, and showed how such a government could function with a strong, intelligent and fair leader while also highlighting the flaws in a system that puts so much power in it's central leader.

The Galactic Empire with the Imperial Knights was awesome

Pelion: we need to start recruiting aliens our human troops are dropping like freaking flies

To be honest, even directly after Endor, there were certainly some “good” splinter groups, who would focus on humane treatment and establishing an area of space which order and stability in an era when most of the galaxy was in a constant state of war. But the real nasty aspects would slowly be annihilated with palleon, and they would never really come back in any major form within the remnant. Also, one could still make the argument that for a very long time, an imperial remnant was more appealing than the new republic, if only because of that stability that was brought within their borders.

Thrawn and The Vong deserve to have films of their own.

"Daala wasn't very cash money" may be the best thing I've ever heard you say.

Actually, following a realistic point of view, I have always thought that for most people life was pretty much normal and even perhaps better than in the latter decades of the Republic. The Sith induced troubles/neglect and so on would be gone in the New Order. War, rebellion, massacres and so on were far away things for most systems (we are talking about a galaxy-wide government, thousands & thousands of worlds), most people do not care about politics in daily life ( dealt with locally anyway, and there was the token Senate) and corruption and other problems are not imperial per se. So in terms of daily life, I guess unless you are unlucky enough to be on the receiving side of Imperial might & wrath, it should be pretty ok. If I was to write some things in the EU/Legends continuity and set in the Imperial Era, I would make the Empire pretty popular among most people. I like when things are more grey in Star Wars. Of course, this is only taking into account the facade of the government, the theoritical "new order" under a constitutionnal Emperor. The real sith-led magocracy is indeed evil. But save for a few, everybody ignored this.

one word changes everything, legends or canon

Paelleon is easily a top 3 Star Wars character for me. His development over the entire legends series as a whole is probably my favorite of any character.

Pellaeon is one of my favourite Star Wars characters.

So basically Pellaeon was sort of like the Otto von Bismarck of the Imperial Remnant?

The Fel Empire is the Good Empire.

I was really amazed at how the Empire evolved from the story writings of the late 90s and early 2000s. It is more colorful and refreshing to stop always see the Empire being the enemy. For example, in a later star wars legacy comic, ironically a company of aquatic stormtroopers help rescue Mon Cals from space pirates

"Daala herself was not very cash money." Now that's freaking great stuff there!!! Admiral Thrawn > Admiral Pellaeon > Admiral Daala > the rest

Fel Empire even established Imperial Mission to help poor, and before all that, Jagged Fel will make it possible for aliens to join stormtrooper cops

Post-Palpatine Empire: Oh no, we lost our leader! What do we do?! Gilead Pellaeon: Now this looks like a job for me, so everybody, just follow me-

The sequels should have been based on the very first Thrawn-trilogy by Timothy Zahn. If you haven't read that trilogy, I highly recommend you do. The stories use characters from the original trilogy, 5 years after Endor, and the story is the entry point for my favorite imperial character, Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Palpatine may have been evil, but the empire as a whole was as complex as the people that it consisted of.

the Fel Empire was really freaking cool, its interesting to see a morally gray empire

To me, when I think of a "Good Imp" I think of someone who can sympathies with rebels who's causes were arguably just yet still had a strong belief to the idea that a strong central military government is necessary for security and protection.

The Empire from Legends were amazing, TFO has absolutely nothing on them.

This is indeed why the First Order was a absolute catastrophe right from the start for me. They simply took all the worst aspects of the Empire and ramped them up another few notches instead of giving us a Empire that actually tried to embody the ideals that the New Order espoused, those of order, peace, and security

I think it's worth to think about wether the "evil" is institutional or that the deeds are committed by individuals (which would reflect badly for the Empire as well)

I like this kind of storytelling because it feels natural. It makes sense that not all imperial groups were just evil and that when crushing the head of the empire, they didn't all just fall apart. The Empire had control over an ENTIRE galaxy, so remnants that would self govern makes sense especially since they were still significant galactic powers.

This would have been a far more interesting angle for the sequels to take. An uneasy but otherwise amiable balance of power between NR and Imperial Remnant, as they face challenges that stress their truce but ultimately force them to work together (a la YV, or a splinter group of extremists).

The entire story of Star Wars feels like a game of Stellaris

Oh dude! I remember the red armored empire Knights! I read every single legacy comic book before Lucas arts shut down. I wish the sequel trilogy had stuff like this. It was sooooo cool.

"I have brought peace to my new empire" or something like that -spedakin Jedi Knight

It's a shame that the Empire in disney canon disintegrated so quickly to the point it's hard to suspend your disbelief.

“Good is a point of view” - Palpatine

I love Thrawn and Pellaeon and wish the former existed in features besides just the Rebels saga, and that the latter existed at all in the new stuff. I think I like Pellaeon more though. While he may lack Thrawn's brilliance or totally cool and largely flawless rationality he was also, in every sense of the word more human. Hah, even if that's a poor choice of words with regard to Star Wars, I do think Pellaeon is at least more sentient (that is with the complexity of being grounded and human) in terms of moral complexity. Thrawn comes across as a bit more of a Vulcan-like being by comparison, and I just find that less relatable. Perhaps that's just part and parcel of the Chiss species though.

Once again a very interesting video, you're doing great at making a lot if this stuff way more interesting, good job EckhartsLadder.

This man really said not “very cash - money”

The largest issue with the Empire actually lies with the state of a post-war galaxy that was mostly just against non-humans. Seeing as the Empire didn't exactly condemn the racism and xenophobia that existed within the territories after the Clone Wars. It was stated in one of the recent Thrawn books that the Empire itself is not racist. However, due to the years of war against the CIS, which were mostly led by non-humans, they grew to despise anyone who wasn't human or near-human. That is where the racism comes from, years of conflict. The Empire could've worked, but unfortunately the people really killed it.

If this ever gets retold in the new Cannon I would definitely sign up to become a TIE fighter pilot for this new Empire! 👍.

Would be good to have an updated video on the Empire of the Hand at some point to take into account theories from the Mandalorian (is that where Thrawn is? busy setting up a canon version with Ezra?) possibly with Baron Soontir Fel too? 🤔

Damn bro its 2020 and kids are still trying to be "first"

This sort of story is why I prefer Legends. The Empire ended up as a slightly more controlled and just as fair New Republic (or Galactic Alliance, if you prefer).

Time to revive Star Wars legends

"Dala herself was not very cash money" 😭😂😂

The Old Republic Era has the most chances the Empire had at not become overtly evil. But it really depends on who is helming the show as "heroes" of the Empire.

Yo I just came back onto your channel and your intro and outro song gave me so much nostalgia when I used to watch your Star Wars videos all the time and build my legos. Memories man.

The end speech of cpt. Kerril with the imperial march was epic in the last mission on the dark side in squadrons

One of my favorite aspects of "Resistance" (animated series, etc.) was the inclusion of Cpt. Doza and Griff Hollaron, both former Imperial Navy, and both aligning themselves with the "light" light side. Doza's and Hollaron's insights, eventually having been on both sides of the fight, are brilliant. As well, it was thoughtful for the series to explore the appeal of the Empire through the actions of Tam Ryvora. The reality, fictionally and historically, Imperialism can have and has had mass appeal... the primary danger is trusting/believing/knowing what's at the top.

Quality video, keep up the great work man!

I love legend's version to the New Republic.

Love the videos my man keep up the amazing work and stay safe

Oh wow, a video which doesn't have a huge plug for the first minute and a half! Awesome! Subbed!

I remember Daala from Legacy of the Force. The cannons her ships used were so cool.

Love the vids dude!!

Okay, now I wanna see the Empire and the Republic working together, that would be so cool.

"We used to be bad,now were good"

These bits of lore is wha I like this channel :) thank you for reminding me :)

Let's just admit Galactic empire > First order

I wish something like the Fel Empire existed in Canon. According to some sources there actually is a small sort of Imperial Remnant in Canon that still operates under the name of the Galactic Empire even by the time of the Sequel Trilogy. It would have been interesting to see them referenced in the movies.

What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck

*When legends has more world building and lore than the official canon*

I have always absolutely loved palleon for these reasons

Hey so I watch your videos all the time, and I am really going to hate the day when they stop coming in.

The Empire: we were bad but now we're good

Pellaeon is absolutely my favorite character in Star Wars. ❤

*"not very cash money"* couldn't have said it better myself.

I wish we got something like the Fel Empire in canon

I guess that ultimately the Empire would have become a Parliamentary Democracy with a Monarch and a sort of House of Lords lead by Moffs, sort of like the UK and Netherlands

I watch skippable ads to the end for you Eck, not sure if it helps at all but until I hear otherwise I’m gonna keep going

The Empire was always good! Bringing a safe and secure society! (PS awesome video Eckarts very informative)

Vs matchup Yss-1000 saber( Halo Reach) vs T-65 X-wing(Star Wars). 2 rounds round 1 average pilot in each round 2 noble 6 in the saber vs Wedge Antilles in the X-wing

gotta love those imperial knights

This is why I love Legends more. However it'd be interesting to see the Imperial Remnant + New Republic vs The First Order.

Could you do a video about the rise of Jagged Fell? I feel that most star wars channels have ignored him.

Will JOIN when RICH.

Something I never thought of why was the emperor throne room next to the reactor shaft

The Empire we're, and always have been the good guys

Once again, another example of Mickey Skaven ignoring the vastness of Star Wars lore

I always thought there was a huge missed opportunity for the post-RotJ Disney products with the fragmentation of the Imperial Remnant. It'd have been great to see a fleet somewhere that settled in to a more thought-out and effective role. My take: the fleet makes a deal with a couple of planets in a region, exchanging space-lane security for taxes. By helping those planets out-compete their neighbors (no pirates would be willing to prey on their flagged merchants), they demonstrate the usefulness of the Imperial Navy, getting more planets to sign on. Each world would be left to its own affair, simply providing funds and materiel to support the fleet in its role of space-lane security. Throw in protection from military threats (and refusal to commit to offensive wars, though strategic offensives in a defensive war would be fine) and it has the potential to be a great deal for member worlds without any of the tyranny, despotism, or aggression of the old Galactic Republic or Galactic Empire.

The Empire? EVIL? Impossible! The Empire is a source of good and order. Glory to the Empire!

The Empire... Good? Press Ecks to Doubt

The empire was always the good guys.

It’s the Sith ideology that turned the empire evil.

yeah new video

Daala? Cash Money!? Lol I love this channel

Kinda want Palleon in current canon.. Dunno, maybe have him gathering remnants of First Order or have a spiritual successor, since it is shame these bits of lore were lost with legends. Personally, I've always digged a concept of Imperials becoming sort of good guys as nametag of bad guys was given to new threats.

This was pretty nice. Though it one of your early comments got me thinking a bit...have you ever done a video on why the various Dark/Sith Lords actually went for superweapons time and time again even though there was plenty of historical evidence to show they didn't work or even more contemporary studies showing that using those resources to construct even larger fleets that could directly oppress even more of the galaxy? I mean I'm pretty sure that Legends never outright stated it, but if you read between the lines it seems pretty obvious.

You know that meme of the cat just bobbing his head to some vibe? That's me at around 0:01

Sounds like the Empire slowly transitioned from a ridiculous force of evil to gradually behaving more like a regular empire.

Aye, wassup Eck

Fun fact, in Star Wars: Rebels, the Rebellion commits more war crimes than the Empire. "Evil is a label we place on those who threaten us." ~ Chancellor Palpatine As Thrawn stated, most citizens never saw a single TIE fighter. Most citizens supported or were indifferent to the Empire, and there is significant argument that the Rebel Alliance caused far more suffering than the Empire ever would have through the chaos and war caused. Now in real life I'm an individualist to the extreme, but taking the argument for what it is the Empire definitely has reason behind its support and the Alliance to Restore the Republic has serious problems within its own actions.

Oh boy, the guys on r/EmpireDidNothingWrong are gonna have a fun time with this lol

Hell yeah! NJO stuff!

both the Empire and the Republic are suggestive with their morality. that's why i love star wars.

"This" is the Empire I loved.

800K subscribers. Nice.

Even during the main era of the Empire, there were a lot of heroic Imperials, it's just that you rarely saw them due to the focus on the conflict between the Empire and the Rebellion/New Republic. Just as there were nightmarish forces in the rebellion who were basically terrorists or pirates claiming it for legitimacy while continuing their normal businesses.

At 0:16 you show a large frigate simular to the Nebulon B on the right side of the screen, please do a vid on this ship. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤

i want to see more about the new republic and the empire fighting side by side