Why The Lions Tour of South Africa is so brutal | Spirit of Rugby | EP 2 | RugbyPass
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@knightswarm1 2 жыл бұрын
The Boks have not played together in 2 years and rife with injuries, players overseas etc, this is the best chance the B&I Lions have ever had to win the series. As a South African, i really hope the Boks can pull together and get match fit to at least put on a show during this tour.
@MrPIEEYEDPIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the Springbok improvement from Test 1 to Test 2? That's with minimal match time. The Boks have injuries, so do the Lions, and with players playing over seas now being eligible to play for the Boks they see the Lions players play every week, indeed play alongside them. They have an insight into how they play.
@janfunriebeeck 2 жыл бұрын
We won brother
@MrPIEEYEDPIPER 2 жыл бұрын
@@janfunriebeeck absolutely did. Morne delivered. And Cheslin, and Handre sometimes
@ThabaniTBowseHadebe0909 3 жыл бұрын
Can't Wait! KOM BOKKE!
@lukeperrings8380 2 жыл бұрын
We are ruthless..Always will be.. PROUDLY BOKS!
@Tianton1 3 жыл бұрын
Ian McGeechan in 1997 left a legacy. A legacy that was nearly ruined in 2001 and almost destroyed in 2005. In 2009, what he did for the Lions will be remembered forever.
@SirOrganic 3 жыл бұрын
You had a really good team in 01. From a young fella watching in Australia, all we could hear from the newspaper and commentators were that we'd never beaten the Lions. It was a really great achievement that we did so, much so because we respected your team so much.
@tommyssanderson 2 жыл бұрын
WOW - EPIC....great edit & great production. Loved this!!!
@darrenkaidarrrenkai9179 2 жыл бұрын
Sensational story ,like the background music very important series to both teams , as well as for the world
@andrewcowman8731 2 жыл бұрын
The Whole joy I like many felt. Your best every drop. I remember the reaction in the pub, running the short distance & telling my young daughter what had happened. The Wife sopped me searing. Amazing. Hope this 1 happens
@tudordavies8204 3 жыл бұрын
I never tire of watch the DVD's of the '74 and '97 Lions tours. When Scot Gibbs put Oz Durant on his arse was pure rugby magic.
@RB28v 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he didn't though, did me. Os came from the side and didn't hang on. You make it sound like he ran over him front on lol
@barmybarnabas8314 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the 97 dvd for the first time and right before the Durant moment he paused it and told me all about Durant the player, then pressed play and I saw Scotty be a beast aha
@stevebrown5430 3 жыл бұрын
Remember exactly where I was when the Lions won that second test. A phenomenal achievement by the whole squad, the management team and coaches.
@sakabula2357 Жыл бұрын
Lol..yip just like I remember exactly where I was for the second test in '09..Been some great games between these sides..
@maori_brotha 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this tour!!!
@chrisgerber6281 2 жыл бұрын
Just watching and listening to you guys made the world shrink and the trails and tribulations of modern day life disappear. Thank you. What a great game played by giants regardless of the color of the jumper. Over time mete mortals just seem to grow bigger and bigger
@brettwilkinson9529 3 жыл бұрын
This tour will be an absolute waste of time. Empty stadiums make for zero atmosphere and zero interest. Cancel it until next year. It would be damaging to the game and reputation. This is a special tour and should be treated that way..
@achilles8397 3 жыл бұрын
U absolutely have no clue what u are talking about
@brettwilkinson9529 3 жыл бұрын
@@achilles8397 yes I do You obviously don't know your history like I do.
@pre-dawnraid9037 3 жыл бұрын
Not for the players. England, Wales will have a score to settle, Gatland vs Erasmus (really) and Boks are World Champions, playing at home.....
@sakabula1285 3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree...its not going to be the same without the crowds
@sakabula1285 3 жыл бұрын
@@achilles8397 Have you ever been to a Lions vs Boks game...the atmosphere is just amazing...we need to have the crowds there..
@simonhellier7281 3 жыл бұрын
I spoke to a former Lions Capt before walking into Newlands for the first test, and he didn’t think the Lions could win. Saw him after and it was a different story, that test in Durban was epic...and for a time, Jenkins kept us in it...
@reniervanheerden2600 3 жыл бұрын
The Springboks learned a painful lesson in '97 : Never go in a into a series, without a recognized goul kicker.
@Nervybear 3 жыл бұрын
That's basically the only reason, why we lost.
@sergiogomesdeabreu6130 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nervybear you only need one...
@francoiswilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Jannie...
@learntonganwithandrew 2 жыл бұрын
What's a goul kicker? Can you kick a goul?
@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nervybear maybe
@jdjordaan9943 3 жыл бұрын
0:01 I dont see the Lions as underdogs. Thats like saying if you take Springboks, Australia and the All Blacks' best players and make a team they will be somehow worse than the original Countries team. Me personally have always viewed the B&I Lions as the Ultimate Goliath team from up North. And the Southern Hemisphere teams as Divid. It sometimez feels like the Lions even have more people in the stadium aswell 😁
@long-shotlouie 3 жыл бұрын
I think people tend to have them down as underdogs because they are a bunch of guys who aren't used to playing together. Gelling as a team is important and it's difficult to do in the space of time they have before the tests. I don't think they can rely on that as an excuse this year, however, with the saffers not having played together either since the WC final in 2019!
@miguelangel3254 3 жыл бұрын
They love to start with excuses from the getgo
@long-shotlouie 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelangel3254 they drew the last tour (against possibly the best team of all time) and won the one before, no one's been throwing around excuses - there's been no need
@miguelangel3254 3 жыл бұрын
@@long-shotlouie that's the attitude we all wanna hear! Let the series begin
@HeAhaBro 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of preparation the Boks are undoubtedly underdogs. Man on man it's fairly even.
@andrewwheal5331 3 жыл бұрын
What a time we had.
@RhysJervis 2 жыл бұрын
Justin Tipuric appeared 3 or 4 times in this video. Class player.
@taftaf26 3 жыл бұрын
Makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Amazing.
@thabangnkopane4626 3 жыл бұрын
His using you ....Ditness is his goal...he wants to seem untouchabls xan he beat a team on his own
@gregormartin5628 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@roballen5718 2 жыл бұрын
every Lion should sit and watch the 1974 tour documentary. no-one had beaten the Boks at home. over 20 games were played, in a 3 month period. the Boks did their normal thing of intimidation, until Mervin Davis walloped their hard man, as if he was a child. made 'that try' by Skinner look ordinary.
@happysaffa8871 3 жыл бұрын
This is why rugby is the greatest sport. You can tackle the fuck out of someone and still lose the game, but still congratulate your opponents. I'm happy the lions are coming to us again this year. We need this after 2020. May there be hard, well fought and beautiful rugby played this tour. Can't wait :)
@harrycowleshc 3 жыл бұрын
Agree mate, as an Eng and Lions fan i love the SA tour. You boys bring such a war metality that makes us all as fans have the primal instict of kill kill kill woth every collison. (I obviously dont want anyone to kill anyone before I get a silly response) The 09 tour was brutal for both teams and was so closely fort! Lets hope for some ELITE Rugby!!!
@happysaffa8871 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrycowleshc I'm sure it's gonna be a cracker of a tour. May the best team win. :)
@cullyx2913 3 жыл бұрын
You are stringing this out man,jaysus
@stevenlurie1215 3 жыл бұрын
As. A Shaffer I'm relieved. May is a real talent and should have been on the tour🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@arnodk2852 3 жыл бұрын
Guys like May and Sinckler could still be called up if there are any injuries, Gatland made a list of, I think, 30 backup players that could still get called up, and both of them are on there.
@ricklepage2012 3 жыл бұрын
But a terrible Prime Minister!
@harrycowleshc 3 жыл бұрын
Agree mate, May has been outstanding for years now and more than deserves a Lions call up. I do understand the Resse Zammit and he are very similar player so why take 2? But hey such a shame for May
@christeebs 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how often the Lions are against the crowd. The stadiums always seem to be majority Lions supporters
@andrerabie8095 2 жыл бұрын
yee tickets are so expensive that south africans can't afford them
@Eleftheria_i_thanatos 3 жыл бұрын
Did they mention who the sponsor is? I must have blinked and missed it.
@johnmc3862 2 жыл бұрын
No sign.
@barmybarnabas8314 2 жыл бұрын
Lions are almost always underdogs. The reason for that is mashing together players that don't play together on the international level, they haven't had the same time to develop chemistry which you NEED to have to win at this level. Now with this tour it's a bit different as SA also haven't had time to hone that chemistry. So will be interesting to sse
@beatonthedonis 2 жыл бұрын
"There weren't bad players on that trip" - Johnson, Hill, Dallaglio, Back, Dawson, Guscott, Gibbs, Wood, Howley, Townsend. Not bad at all.
@3vimages471 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Dawson's dummy try ..... a thing of beauty. Scott Gibbs runs .... a thing of power.
@francoiswilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Boks didn't have a kicker...last test Jannie se Beer single handedly destroyed the Lions...what a player
@AgentMoray 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a POC South African, so though I didn't believe the Lions could win the '97 tour, my entire family were hoping the Springboks would get smashed. Sadly racism was still too rampant back then for me to consider that a South African team. Now... sorry B&I Lions, I'm backing the Springboks fully.
@bliksempiemoerdyk6605 3 жыл бұрын
Up against what officials?
@Mobilewarrior1 3 жыл бұрын
Man we are so ready for the mighty lions.... What's bigger than winning the world cup ,,,whitewashing the lions.... Looking forward to these matches....
@tudordavies8204 3 жыл бұрын
In your dreams lovely boy!
@jgg0207 3 жыл бұрын
LIONS!!!!! LIONS!!!!!! LIONS!!!! 🦁🦁🦁🦁 almost nothing in rugby gets me more excited than a lions tour! Come on boys!!!
@edj8253 3 жыл бұрын
This "we are massive underdogs" mentality from the Lions is really tedious, and nobody buys it anymore. They are arguably the biggest challenge as an opponent in world rugby.
@khyber04 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I suppose to them it makes for a better story if they win
@Wshilighlights 2 жыл бұрын
It's really weird, they make the best team out of 4 top countries. How does this make them weak?
@how2digitalowen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wshilighlights Because they have hardly any time to train together and get used to how eachother plays. However this year I think is a bit different. SA have had no game time. So I do think Lions should be the bookies favorite this time.
@meganoikz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wshilighlights A mishmash of players is not a team. They have to develop a team, quickly.
@alextarr3686 2 жыл бұрын
It's such a load. To say that any top 4 nations combined shouldn't reasonably be expected to win a series is disingenuous.
@jbayi3340 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps we should throw SA, NZ, Aus and Arg together and tour Europe.
@blaquenguni9249 3 жыл бұрын
This Tour will be atrocious without fans in the stadium. Only reason it's even going ahead is to salvage broadcast money. Tour should've been rescheduled for November. It'd be the SA summer and European mid season. It would've also gave the Boks a chance to host or go to a tour and play 3-5 test matches BEFORE the tour. Where have you heard of a tier 1 nation not playing a single rugby game in 2 years and boom, Lions Tour!! Rugby has been going the same path as football for quite some time. Just look what they did to the Super 12
@dandan4092 3 жыл бұрын
Money talks man. It sucks and takes away from the spirit of the game. But it is what it is
@ChampAubrey 3 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement
@jayshreenarshi686 3 жыл бұрын
But Ben Smith of Rugby Pass says Boks overrated, and therefore should be walk in the park for the Lions
@raymondwilliams185 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes u forget what it means for the other team to win
@michaelmccaffrey8044 10 ай бұрын
When the boys are men and we can all share the celebration
@flyhigh2074 3 жыл бұрын
It was, is and always will be war!!!
@chrisreynecke3129 2 жыл бұрын
The B&I Lions are best out of 4 of the top 8 teams in the world, have more players and money than SA, so the notion that they are the underdogs is not really valid. Yes, the Boks play at home therefore it's always an equally matched affair. The main reason the Boks lost the '97 tour was because at the time there was no recognized place kicker in the team. They fixed that 12 years later, and the kicker will also be the difference in 2021. They play traditionally two very different styles of rugby and that is way it is always such an occasion.
@superbok4517 3 жыл бұрын
This is bigger then the world cup
@blueskies1854 Жыл бұрын
Such a big difference in attitude. The Springboks play for the love of the game, and they play for their country. The minute they put on that jersey it's no longer about them. Its about an ideal and that is what they represent and those guys are willing to die for that ideal. So different from these people talking about wanting respect etc. They obviously play the game for themselves, and that will always be the difference between the Springboks and other teams. Doesn't inherently make the Springboks better or anything, but I just realized these Northerners really don't understand SA rugby at all.
@KernowekTim 3 жыл бұрын
You '97 Lions caught a fat, sleek, super-fit World Champion specimen Springbok herd napping, and you skinned their hides: Big-styley. It's the skill and size of the fight in the 'dog' that matters.
@garethdesborough7960 3 жыл бұрын
Fuuuuck me. Butterflies. I love The Lions.
@pieterhaumann5488 3 жыл бұрын
Lions only won on the scoreboard. but SA won on the field scoring 9 tries to 3 by Lions in the series. Noel Jenkins landed about every place kick attempted winning the first two tests. In first test Edrich Lubbe and Henry Hannibal missed the place kicks and in the second test Percy Montgomery missed the place kicks. Lions did not really deserve to win series.
@Faust_ZA 3 жыл бұрын
The game would be fair if we took the best from Argentina South Africa Australia and New Zealand and we made a team against the north
@hankgoldenshaft 3 жыл бұрын
“We’re just four nations combined to make a team” oh poor little Lions, only compromised of little old England, Ireland etc. You should be destroying other nations with that sort of talent pool. Could you imagine a team made up of NZ, SA, and Australia? SMH
@dumingwenya7388 3 жыл бұрын
Dude!!! I don’t know how these guys can try flip the narrative by insinuating that lions vs boks is David v Goliath with the Lions being the David’s. It’s hilarious. Listen to the first bit by Gascott
@hankgoldenshaft 3 жыл бұрын
@@dumingwenya7388 you said it buddy. Also, it would be cool to see a test between the Rugby Championship all stars vs. The Six Nations all stars.
@dumingwenya7388 3 жыл бұрын
@dion Walsh, brilliant idea, don’t know why those with leverage have never thought of that. But if it’s done once a year for the next 100 years, I expect the southern hemisphere to win 100 times. Would be epic!
@dumingwenya7388 3 жыл бұрын
@@hankgoldenshaft you’re preaching the gospel. It’s inevitable, it will happen
@alioffski45 2 жыл бұрын
Bently try has to be an all time wonder
@wgjansenvanvuren8160 2 жыл бұрын
Four countries against one-the B&I Lions should beat the Boks.
@jacqloock 3 жыл бұрын
“That dropkick started with...” a knock-on and a willfully blind referee. Let’s just say that a higher power willed the Genocidal Imperialists to win that day.
@longbow3810 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. It’s a good thing nothing racist, murderous or bigoted ever came out of South Africa isn’t it? Oh wait..........
@markhamer4168 3 жыл бұрын
horseshit.
@jacqloock 3 жыл бұрын
@@longbow3810 29000 women and children murdered in a concentration camps for gold and diamonds say you know nothing of history.
@jacqloock 3 жыл бұрын
@@markhamer4168 Fact. Watch the tape.
@kimonconidaris7375 3 жыл бұрын
3-0 boks😳😬👍🇿🇦2021
@chrissharplesphotography9748 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmmn… might have to rethink that …
@josephvanwyk2088 2 жыл бұрын
Please come, BOER WAR continues. Even after the world cup.
@miguelangel3254 3 жыл бұрын
0:19 lost respect for Dawson completely
@richardscanlan3167 3 жыл бұрын
Never had any for him to begin with.
@fedup3449 2 жыл бұрын
So you've been on a Lions tour, have you?
@miguelangel3254 2 жыл бұрын
@@fedup3449 ad hominem
@enzioreggiori3877 2 жыл бұрын
Moer hulle bokke!
@petrusmeyer7537 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t like talking about 2009 hey
@daaichommie708 2 жыл бұрын
"Up against the officials"... Strange because thats what it feels like to be a springbok supporter in almost every international fixture. The only times we dont feel up against an official is if he's South African. And thats not because he's pro Bok. Thats just because he refs fairly.
@fedup3449 2 жыл бұрын
You're a proper joker mate.
@longbow3810 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣brilliant, I come here for the humour!!😂👍
@bee7549 2 жыл бұрын
Boks should have won in1997 and lost in2009
@susannamarker2582 3 жыл бұрын
Bakkies Rent-a-thug Botha punched his way to victory in 2009. Five Lions at the hospital after the second test. I don't call that Rugby Union.
@sakabula1285 3 жыл бұрын
Susanna learned a new word...Thug/Thuggery.Everyone have a shot each time she says it😂😂😂
@sakabula1285 3 жыл бұрын
I challenge you to tell us how Bakkies was involved in all 5 Lions players going to hospital.Only Jones and Bakkies didnt punch him...it was a ruck clean out..
@susannamarker2582 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakabula1285 Play the ball, not the player. Oh I forgot, you're a Bakkies fan.
@susannamarker2582 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakabula1285 Five players in hospital from the Lions side. Maybe you watch different channels to us.
@sakabula1285 3 жыл бұрын
@@susannamarker2582 Bakkies was involved in one...you make out like he personally put all five there..Its rugby..and probably the most intense match ever.. Agian I challenge you to show me where Bakkies was involved in all five...and yes I am a Bakkies fan...
@petes9524 3 жыл бұрын
Give me 20 divisions American soldiers and I will breach Europe. Give me 15 consisting of Englishmen, and I will advance to the borders of Berlin. Give me two divisions of those marvellous fighting Boers (Meaning Farmer, originating from the Boer War) and I will remove Germany from the face of the earth." Field Marshal Bernard L. Montgomery, Commander of the Allled forces during WWII. "The Americans fight for a free world, the English mostly for honour and glory and medals, the French and Canadians decide too late that they have to participate. The Italians are too scared to fight; the Russians have no choice. The Germans for the Fatherland. The Boers? Those sons of bitches fight for the hell of it." American General, George "Guts and Glory" Patton "Take a community of Dutchmen of the type of those who defended themselves for fifty years against all the power of Spain at a time when Spain was the greatest power in the world. Intermix with them a strain of those inflexible French Huguenots, who gave up their name and left their country forever at the time of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. The product must obviously be one of the most rugged, virile, unconquerable races ever seen upon the face of the earth. Take these formidable people and train them for seven generations in constant warfare against savage men and ferocious beasts, in circumstances in which no weakling could survive; place them so that they acquire skill with weapons and in horsemanship, give them a country which is eminently suited to the tactics of the huntsman, the marksman and the rider. Then, finally, put a fine temper upon their military qualities by a dour fatalistic Old Testament religion and an ardent and consuming patriotism. Combine all these qualities and all these impulses in one individual and you have the modern Boer." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Good luck Lions.
@simsnyandeni3828 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Dawson is and will forever be a clown
@robertwhyte5078 3 жыл бұрын
Lions have got no chance. Far too many Welsh in the team. They know nothing of winning in SA.
@xanderbarnard7237 2 жыл бұрын
Acting like underdogs lol. Typical Brits. Choose 1 squad from 4 good rugby nations against 1 and acting like no one thinks they should win makes me lol
@stesco71 3 жыл бұрын
'74 Lions will never be surpassed, 22 games, 21 victorys & the last test drawn due to a very dodgy decision disallowing a Lions try by a South African referee.
@CG-or1re 3 жыл бұрын
I love the lions but Ian mcgeechan's speeches are absolute twoddle.
@Blindside_Flanker 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MoonHoax-md6mp 3 жыл бұрын
The Hobbits are going to be crushed by the Giants especially in the scrums and line outs. Strength, height, ability and weight are in favour of the Bok tight five. It will be a threefold repetition of the 2019 WC Final. The Hobbits are also weak at No's 9,10, 12 and 13. Even at No's 6,7 and 8 the Boks have an advantage with Duane Vermeulen, PS Du Toit, Marcel Coetzee, Jasper Wiese, the Du Preez Brothers etc as long as they don't select Kolisi. The Hobbits will fight bravely (like lions) but all will be in vain. There is also not enough depth in the Hobbit Squad to replace injured key players which is almost certain to happen. Farrell and Itoge are walking penalties and possible yellow and red card candidates. Gatland is a has been and lacks self confidence given his recent poor record with the Chiefs etc. Adopting an expansive game with mobile Hobbit Loose Forwards will play directly into the Boks defensive and counter attacking pattern of play. The Boks are improving under Rassie and Nienaber and are still far from reaching their true potential notwithstanding their 2019 WC Final performance. The Boks have tremendous depth in all positions and a better by far halfback combination in FAF and Pollard. Pollard is totally underrated on the international scene and by regularly crossing the advantage line will cause the Hobbits all sorts of problems. There is also no Hobbit who can compete with Damian Allende in midfield. Alun Wyn Jones is too long in the tooth and will struggle against Etsebeth, RG Snyman, Lood de Jaar etc, especially in the line outs. The following predictions are already cast in stone and no crystal ball is required: First Test Boks 32 Hobbits 19 Second Test Boks 27 Hobbits 19 Third Test Boks 2nd Team 21 Hobbits 19
@georgesingleton3279 3 жыл бұрын
Tell us how you really feel why don’t you;)
@patrickmccutcheon9361 3 жыл бұрын
You could be right. Just a detail. Are you counting on Snyman? He has only played 7 minutes before getting injured in his first game for Munster. He is apparently close to fitness but not match fitness.
@Blindside_Flanker 3 жыл бұрын
They are not going to try match the Boks physically. Every team that tries that comes short. They going to use speed and run around our big men. Its what NZ used to always do when they domintated SA games. Big strong guys move slow. Predicting very high paced games from the Lions.
@andrerabie8095 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blindside_Flanker valid but our conditioning coach has made the bok squad super lean wthout loosing any of their strength. we have rapid wingers as first second and third selections. should be a great matchup tho. after their first warmup game against the golden lions i do believe the lions need to work on set piece and dicsipline because currently those are their biggest weaknesses imo. springboks will also slow the pace down using their physical presence. i think the lions might play a game that limits set piece as much as possible like japan did in the quarter final so that the boks don't have a chance to dominate in these areas. however, i'm speculating but really looking forward to the est series. also i just want to say the guy that made the origional comment knows nothing about modern rugby and we don't claim him. also probs racist judging by his comments and the way he speaks.
@Asoundviewpoint 3 жыл бұрын
not really a rugby tournament of great attention in honesty. More a trip to be insulted by official bias and , hurt in and on off the ball aggression. The game and its reputation is irrelevant in South African rugby. shame as it hides the few gifted players they do have.
@dandan4092 3 жыл бұрын
Do we really have to keep digging up Geech every 4 years? The bloke is clueless about modern rugby. I understand the emotional side of things but it’s the same with Clive Woodward, they don’t offer any insight into the modern game.
@ianstewart9487 3 жыл бұрын
Geech is a legend. 7 or 8 tours as player or coach.
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