Why The Mega Man DOS Games SUCK

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The Mega Man PC titles are notorious for being some of the worst games of all time! Let's take a look at them.
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1:40 Mega Man DOS
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@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

The first 1,000 people to use the link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/gottabefrank12221 4:08 This comment is 100% wrong. Duke Nukem used the assets from Mega Man DOS. Way to go Apogee. Sorry about the weird cropped gameplay. I think I know what caused that issue, but for reasons mentioned in the video, I didn't want to replay the games. Sorry about that.

@kieranstark7213 Жыл бұрын

Mega Man may be a great franchise of many sub-series, but it doesn’t come with the inclusions of the DOS games nor Fully Charged.

@Garrulous64 Жыл бұрын

This game looks like those fake video games you see in the background of a sitcom

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

It's played by the least liked character.

@Bombsbombsbombs Жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@breno855 11 ай бұрын

Lmao spot on

@AboveEmAllProduction 2 ай бұрын

Which one

@panelvixen Жыл бұрын

There have been many attempts to remake these games. Some have shown great promise only to disappear after a few years. Right now if you want a good version of MM DOS is to recreate the levels in Mega Man Maker.

@agentblackbird9435 5 ай бұрын

Was going to mention this. I distinctly remember one with a really clean artstyle and showing off Dyna Man’s stage

@robertlupa8273 4 ай бұрын

@@agentblackbird9435Sadly that one was never intended to be a real game.

@SQGReviewShow Жыл бұрын

You madman. You have nerves of steel to get through BOTH of these games. I couldn't bring myself to finish any of them. Someday, perhaps.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Not sure if I recommend it.

@tigerfir3 Жыл бұрын

Yesterday I was searching on youtube for what the best games to start playing the megaman series were. Today the algorithm recommends me this, now I know where to start.

@JezElectro13 Жыл бұрын

to be honest, Bit Man's face is just yellow Hard Man's

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I saw the same thing.

@creepersonryestudios Жыл бұрын

I was confused as to why he was compared to Spark Man, up until I saw his battle sprite.

@FGCLovesYou Жыл бұрын

I was so surprised when I saw that Gaming Historian video a while back that Stephen Rozner singlehandedly developed both DOS MM1 and MM3, but then (if I'm remembering correctly) was also involved in DOS Mega Man X, an infinitely more polished game. Other than the omission of the ride armors and (I believe) the hadoken, I'm pretty sure there wasn't too much different between the DOS and SNES releases. Nothing else that stands out, anyway. Didn't realize there was a Mega Man X3 for DOS, though. Must've had my SNES by that point, because I would've been verrrrrry interested in that had I known...

@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon 9 сағат бұрын

X3 doesn’t have a DOS port, though.

@sonichacker141 Жыл бұрын

on deviantart theres someone making art for mega man dos reborn, its basically the dos robot masters but they got a BIG and better art change.

@Solesteam Жыл бұрын

8:45 Maybe the platforms are really thin, unreasonably and unjustifiably thin platforms and he just slips off.

@mattb6522 Жыл бұрын

Great analysis! I didn't have an NES growing up as a kid, but was still able to play Mega Man 2 on the NES at my cousins' house and Mega Man 3 at a friend's house. I fell in love with those NES games and wished I could play them! One Christmas, my parents randomly surprised me with _Mega Man 3 (DOS)_ and I was initially excited when I saw the same box art as the NES version. I mistakenly thought the DOS version was a direct port of the NES classic. Boy, was I miserable when I finally booted it up. I was starved for games as a kid and tried to enjoy it, but even I knew I was fooling myself into liking it. It is probably in my Top 25 worst games I have played in my life...and I have played many games! 😅

@redaknight Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t get past the first stages (not including the intro stages) of either of these…good job…

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

You're not missing much.

@superalt513 Жыл бұрын

At least Torch Man, Shark Man, Wave Man, Oil Man, and Blade Man gotten a new chance in life in actual officially made Capcom Games

@TornaitSuperBird Жыл бұрын

Bit Man should come back, but with his concept revamped. A stage that's a meta throwback to old-school graphics, compared to the rest of the game (which probably could look like MM11.)

@geistgrace6452 Жыл бұрын

You know, If we ever get a Bitman, we'll have gotten the entire cast of robot masters in MegaMan DOS 3.

@austinreed7343 Жыл бұрын

Bit from X3 could count.

@wariomultiretrogaming628 Жыл бұрын

Possibly the worst Mega Man games ever made

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yes. They were agonizing to play through.

@iphonex3156 Жыл бұрын

Jeez. Don't have to be so mean. The games were only made by one person and their brother. If anything, it's impressive being made by 2 people

@gwgux Жыл бұрын

Wow it's been a while since I've seen these games brought up. I saw the Gaming Historian video on them a long time ago and never thought anybody would pick them up and play through them to do a full review on them...and here we are. Your dedication to do so and get a review out about them is real impressive. Kudos to you!

@melo-7904 Жыл бұрын

i always had a weird fascination with the mega man dos games do i have any intention to play them? no will i remake the stages in mega man maker if i wanted to? yes (although heavily modified to fit with classic mega man tropes instead of just 1 to 1 copy of dos to mmm)

@QuantomX64 Жыл бұрын

Are these DOS games considered cannon to the rest of the classic Megaman timeline? and if so, where do they appear on the timeline?

@LandofHeros2234 Жыл бұрын

No, they are not

@melo-7904 Жыл бұрын

no it is effectively a glorified fan game (but that same mind set would state sonic mania isnt canon to sonic which will cause a paradox with forces) but no mega man dos doesnt even appear in rock man complete works

@QuantomX64 Жыл бұрын

@@melo-7904 alright good to know

@yeeoof1995 Жыл бұрын

i think they both happen consecutively between the nes 2 and 3 mega man doesn't gain his slide and rush until nes 3

@shyguy85 Жыл бұрын

any time after 1 and before X... they dont add anything to the canon so it doesnt really matter where they would be placed

@darkerfalcon3747 Жыл бұрын

The portrait in Mega Man 3 DOS was stolen by: Torch Man (Magnet Man) Bit Man (Hard Man) Shark Man (Crash Man or Snake Man) Wave Man (Air Man) Oil Man (Flash Man) Blade Man (Metal Man)

@JezElectro13 Жыл бұрын

you haven't mention it, so i will: Swimming was reused in MM8. why do i think Capcom is halfed whether or not leave Dos Game alone? MM11 - Torch Man, newest Original classic Mega Man.

@Kaiserkrister Жыл бұрын

Great video! Happy too see more people cover mm3 dos 👍 Keep up the great work!!

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@megacadgeo9758 Жыл бұрын

The enemies and gimmicks exclusive to these games would be GREAT in a mega man level creator, like Mega Man Maker.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Maybe not all the enemies, but I know a few that could be picked and put to great use.

@megacadgeo9758 Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank like the rats, imagine that in, lets say, the sewer part of wily 1 in mega man 3. It would be great!

@sleepychickadee4087 Жыл бұрын

Gotta Be Frank is literally one of the best channel names I’ve seen.

@emeralddragonz2.019 Жыл бұрын

If I had the chance to do a full remaster of some Mega Man games, the DOS games would be the ones I’d do first

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

I'd probably put all of it into one game, so that the player has enough robot masters to go through.

@emeralddragonz2.019 Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank That’s what I was thinking too. Heck some of them can also be redesigned to fit their themes better.

@EdKolis Жыл бұрын

I liked watching Dr Wily explode. Yes, explode. The real Wil(e)y got away?!

@vogonp4287 5 ай бұрын

They are actually pretty impressive considering that DOS based computers were very limited in terms of gaming capabilities at the time. They weren't even capable of proper smooth scrolling, or good sound. Home consoles were more purpose built, and had major advantages over the PC until things caught up. But yeah, older Dos games can be quite awkward.

@CheddarVG Жыл бұрын

Something about Mega Man's face on the level select in the first DOS game doesn't sit right with me.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

I noticed it when I was editing and it's unsettling.

@aidnumber10 Жыл бұрын

7:36 I mean, you’re not wrong. It doesn’t look like Crash Man.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

I think had it mixed up with Flash Man in the script.

@ramgladore Жыл бұрын

I would totally buy these, even if only a digital release on Steam

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

I doubt we'll ever see these games released on modern platforms.

@DevinPlayzYT2007 9 ай бұрын

7:36 That's not Crash Man... ...it's Flash Man.

@sun_man35 Жыл бұрын

I thought the DOS Games were jokes... 💀

@Deadite8593 4 ай бұрын

I had the first DOS game as a kid. Fun fact, if you had a gravis gamepad you could play it with a controller........but it was glitched in this game and Mega Man would run to the left the entire time the controller was plugged in LOL. Thankfully I only got to play this game for a few days before my grandpa upgraded to a 486 and the game was unplayable after that. Tons of DOS games are tied to CPU speed and would run at 10 million frames a second if they weren't played on the exact hardware the developers used. Fun stuff haha

@LavaCreeperPeople Жыл бұрын

is the mega man 9 and 10 music that you use in your videos copyrighted?

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

I've been safe from copyright claims, so far.

@LavaCreeperPeople Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank alr nice

@tigheklory 4 ай бұрын

To add some perspective, back in the day I played this on my AT&T PC 6300 computer in CGA graphics. It was a good game considering what it was running on. This was an 8086 with 640K of RAM and it ran well. The background issues don't really happen on a CRT. Back then I knew it wasn't great compared to the Mega Man games I was playing on my NES, but it was cheap and it was something I could do on my computer back then.

@GottaBeFrank 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's the case with all of the older Mega Man games. CRT's just make them look great. If I really wanted to play these games again, I would look for a composite filter for dosbox. Maybe see an approximation of what I was meant to see.

@tigheklory 4 ай бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank I don't know if a composite filter would really smooth out the animation so much, it's more about the refresh rate and the persistence of the phosphorus. I totally see that issue that you are having in your capture, I don't remember that at all back in the day.

@GottaBeFrank 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, but some emulators can do an okay job with replicating composite or RF video quality, so some intended visual effects might appear with that enabled. With the videos, I stick to pixel perfect... as best as I can get it.

@TKUltra971 Жыл бұрын

The one we booted up in the lab didn't even have music. Just blue-pixel Jump n' Shoot man. Boring.

@magicwordxyzzy 4 ай бұрын

It looks like it was made in the Commander Keen engine or something (except without the half-screen border), with the movement and jumping the way it is.

@retro3188 Жыл бұрын

Maybe if the programmer had more time and resources, these games could’ve been more fleshed out.

@minignoux4566 7 ай бұрын

the ironic thing? the same developpers did the Megaman X dos port, wich apart from the music, is spot on to the snes version

@GGYTTHEYT Жыл бұрын

Wow frank, you've been one of my go to channels since knuckles channel 3 and knuckles and you've only improved since then Keep it up, everyone is supporting you ☺️

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you so much! It really means a lot.

@GGYTTHEYT Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank any time, and I think it's cool that you're branching out from just sonic mania mods

@GGYTTHEYT Жыл бұрын

However I enjoyed those mania videos too👍 edit: I meant mania not mid, phones am I right?

@josephwj7199 5 ай бұрын

You got it backwards. Duke Nukem ripped the tile assets from this game.

@GottaBeFrank 5 ай бұрын

Yeah. That one is my bad. I made an attempt to address it in the pinned comment.

@wirlogx 10 ай бұрын

Megaman DOS was a thing but then we have the fan game called Megapony... that was an acid trip....

@MarioMario456 Жыл бұрын

Bit Man actually uses Hard Man's graphics.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I didn't see the comparison. Even the in-game sprites weren't convincing enough.

@longWriter 10 ай бұрын

My introduction to the Mega Man series was actually on my cousins' computer, Mega Man II for PC. In some ways, I liked it a little better than the NES titles, because the DOS version had a big variety of enemies that took quite a few hits sometimes; using robot master weapons against them was practically encouraged, because once you found that (for example) the yellow-suited humanoid enemies went down in one hit with Oil Man's weapon, the game got easier.

@theframebetween6183 Жыл бұрын

just checked real quick, i think your comment about duke nukem graphics being ripped is actually flipped, duke stole megaman's graphics.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

oh, you're right. oops.

@WolfLonk Жыл бұрын

Ok but i know that Mega Man 1 to 5 are on the Gameboy are that ports or diffrent games?

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

They are somewhat different until 3. Then they are completely different.

@jackmcslay 9 ай бұрын

On the subtitle of Megaman III, I'm going to take the word 'revolting' as an adjective rather than a verb how much it massacres the franchise

@GottaBeFrank 9 ай бұрын

I guess that would work, if it actually did any real damage to the franchise. All it did was tell the audience that you're only going to get a fun experience with the Nintendo releases.

@rockmangurlx4973 4 ай бұрын

I kinda want the RMs from these games eventually referenced, if not just for a joke.

@GottaBeFrank 4 ай бұрын

Apparently, there is a remake done in Game Maker. I'll have to look more into this and, maybe, there will be a video on it. OH GOD, IT MEANS I HAVE TO PLAY THE ORIGINALS AGAIN.

@chimericalical Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: every robot master from Megaman 3 Dos has appeared in a game made after it at some point with the exception of bitman. Oilman is in Megaman powered up Shark man is in Megaman Battle Network 1 Torchman is in Megaman 11 Wave man is in Megaman 5 And Blade man is in Megaman 9 I feel like it’s only a matter of time before bitman shows up somewhere

@captainkawaii666 Ай бұрын

One thing I'll give these games is that some of the Robot Masters are pretty cool (or at least have the potential to be)- honestly, I'd like to see some of them given another chance

@trashedupmeme7429 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone here remember when Frank was still known as the knuckles channel?

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yes

@drwily-wl7vl Жыл бұрын

as a classic sonic fan, 9:57 *TELL ME ABOUT IT*

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

There is a lot more thought into the levels in most classic Sonic games. It almost never gets to Mega Man 3 DOS levels of bad.

@drwily-wl7vl Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank ik ik, just i always get lost in them

@KesorodaBlk Жыл бұрын

Duke Nukem II, All build engine games, and IIRC, Oregon Trail we’re some of the only DOS games that had music.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Ahh okay. As someone who never experience games on the original hardware, I was not aware of it.

@muffinboymcgee7411 Жыл бұрын

Most commercial DOS games from 1990 onwards actually do have sound card support and music. Remember that the DOS Mega Man games were literally made by one guy and are not typical of full price releases from the era.

@doozy5184 Жыл бұрын

While I like these games as a guilty pleasure, I do agree with most of your criticism.

@officialFredDurstfanclub Жыл бұрын

I managed to bullshit my way through the first one and it was pure torture. The idea of having to do it again but with 4 more robot masters makes me physically sick

@polocatfan Жыл бұрын

They're basically fangames that Capcom bought so you can't really get too mad at them.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

They're official products. It has a fan game origin, but it was sold for profit by Capcom USA.

@agentblackbird9435 5 ай бұрын

7:36 That’s Flash Man’s sprite

@VeneoTheVGMMusician Жыл бұрын

7:35 did you said crash or flash

@BrandontheAwesome Жыл бұрын

Would you cover Mega Man The Wily Wars? That's the only version of the classic games I have.

@BrandontheAwesome Жыл бұрын

Forgot the e!

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yeah. That video is currently in the works. I have some stuff I want to release first, but I will get around to finishing that video soon.

@muscovyducks 5 ай бұрын

Megaman's odyssey through Commander Keen's universe

@yousefslimani99 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I didn't played them as a kid cause they will ruined my childhood and never touch megaman ever again! And I'm glad that didn't happened!!

@colinmcnally4743 5 ай бұрын

I had both of these on my PC as a kid. I couldn’t understand why they were so brutal. It’s supposed to be Mega Man… I was used to playing Mega Man 1 on NES and I couldn’t couldnt even clear a level in any of the DOS games.

@sevenheavenhavengaming Жыл бұрын

Maybe if Capcom reboot the Mega Man Dos games using the Mega Man 11 graphical format, art style and gameplay it might be able to become official games. lol

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt that. Mostly because the level design would need to be completely redone.

@sevenheavenhavengaming Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank That's the point.

@PoisonedElite 6 ай бұрын

You really gotta try the Wonderswan game

@PoisonedElite 6 ай бұрын

It doesnt suck but it has a lot of goofy looking designs

@GottaBeFrank 6 ай бұрын

I plan on playing the Wonderswan game at some point.

@lemonsmug Жыл бұрын

now do it hitless

@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын

6:44 looks more like Hard Man

@therollingcreeper1 3 ай бұрын

Bit man is just hard man but yellow

@ZeldaMasterLogan Жыл бұрын

I've seen videos in the past where people remade entire games in Mega Man Maker not sure if anyone remade the DOS games but the only saving grace for them would to probably be remade using that game with added features just to actually make them "fun"

@peterludwig4599 5 ай бұрын

To be fair Megaman 1 for DOS was a solid platformer for its time. Megaman 3 for DOS on the other hand is a whole different nightmare. The Metroid like level design and the unfair enemy placement and early dos game problems kill that one.

@GottaBeFrank 5 ай бұрын

1 was not fun to play since I had a lot to adjust to. I didn't enjoy it as much, but I eventually got comfortable enough as I went through it. 3 was just dreadful from beginning to end.

@intel386DX 8 ай бұрын

6:42 Actually no. Bit man looks like Hard Man. Besides all the bosses are based on NES ones .

@wyattE415 5 ай бұрын

Who actually played this and for what benefit? Just was it cheaper than the NES versions so more accessible to more people? Never had all of them, but ones I did not have I could rent from a local video store.

@Sliider36 Жыл бұрын

7:35 thats flashman, not crash. awesome video tho, thanx.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

oops

@bluberrydee6205 Жыл бұрын

imo megaman dos one isn't really all that bad it just doesn't have music its pretty fun to me besides a few parts which are just annoying (and the bosses not having invincibility frames is a bit weird) megaman dos 3 is awful though every stage is a giant maze and the robot masters are just ripoffs of existing ones and the swimming is 💀 you can tell it was reskinned to be a megaman game last minute

@intel386DX 8 ай бұрын

0:11 Wait what ? Mega Man X and X 3 for DOS without X 2? LOL just like lit Mega Man 1 and 3 for DOS missing 2 :D

@evileyeball 9 ай бұрын

X for did isn't half bad. X for dos was the first megaman game I owned.

@Shiro_Zark Жыл бұрын

Mega Man but bad anyone?

@sonichacker141 Жыл бұрын

yes.

@wingwall7892 Жыл бұрын

I’ll be honest, both of these games look like they were made on scratch. And there are actually decent mega man fan games there

@ZukoPrince Жыл бұрын

Oh, great. Video about why water is blue.

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you want to put it that way.

@PeterSpaghetti69 6 ай бұрын

Literally every game on the DOS sucks (Except some)

@josephwj7199 5 ай бұрын

Ever heard of Doom? Duke Nukem 3D?

@PeterSpaghetti69 5 ай бұрын

@@josephwj7199 yup

@Emberson-9000 10 ай бұрын

I'll be honest. Mega Man 1 on DOS isnt the worst. I kinda like it. If you can wrap your head around the controls, it isnt too tough to beat. That said, its no Duke Nukem 2.

@sonofaglitch7549 10 ай бұрын

Bit man looks more like hard man

@GottaBeFrank 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, he really does.

@Eevee860 Жыл бұрын

they're no worse than 1-10

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they are. Much worse.

@user-wd6me5vz7p 6 ай бұрын

mega man looked fat in the dos games.

@amiosi Жыл бұрын

They're good

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

No, they're not.

@amiosi Жыл бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank ratio

@GottaBeFrank Жыл бұрын

Not here, kid.

@BLACKMASKSOUL491 11 ай бұрын

Game off balance just suck end of story thank God this game doesn't exist anymore 🗑️🚮

@GottaBeFrank 11 ай бұрын

Just because it's not officially accessible anymore, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

@BLACKMASKSOUL491 11 ай бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank 👎👎👎👎👎

@redkaijux568 Жыл бұрын

First.

@Shiro_Zark Жыл бұрын

Real people don't say First.

@redkaijux568 Жыл бұрын

@@Shiro_Zark Hello there. I live! 👁️👄👁️

@MystLgnd 9 ай бұрын

Ladies and gentlemen, here is a perfect example of a bad video : - clickbait title, by putting in caps words, and in top of that the one that will provoke ; - putting down something without knowing the background of the game, watch Gaming Historian would have helped a ton ; - not appreciate a video game for what it is, depending on the hardware, era, background, and what it offers. Easy to make something like crap when it doesn't appeal to someone isn't it ? The way of being wise and becoming a real player is ahead now. "You have the power in you... but you're not a jedi yet."

@GottaBeFrank 9 ай бұрын

Did you even watch the video or was the title enough to warrant this comment? I mentioned the Gaming Historian's video, recommended viewers to watch that video, and gave credit where it was due when I found something worth giving credit for. I don't use the word cringe unironically, but that's all I can say to describe your jedi quote. Maybe a Star Wars fan will not think much of it, but oh well.

@MystLgnd 9 ай бұрын

@@GottaBeFrank Well then, next time you'll think twice about your video title, to not fall directly into the bad category. There is so much crap today like I described, that I naturally didn't watch your video at all, I don't have more time and energy to waste for such risk ; it's natural, and things happen this way for anything and anyone. And seeing how you use words, it wants to be pro, when it's actually intoxicated by teenagers "humor" of these days, viciously containing lack of experience and selfishness, and desesperately try to be noticed in the world of Internet. You'll see better by yourself.

@sergeantgerbil2238 9 ай бұрын

@@MystLgnd you just sound really upset that someone rightfully criticized a rendition of a game you didn't like 🤣

@MystLgnd 9 ай бұрын

@@sergeantgerbil2238 ... completely wrong.

@SketchieProductions231 2 ай бұрын

@@MystLgnd … people watch the video first before commenting, and if you think that watching a youtube video is “a waste of energy”, you’re the same type of person to say lifting a truck takes less energy than watching a 10 minute youtube video

@Set666Abominae Жыл бұрын

Megaman X6 sucks so much worse than X7. X7 was at least an attempt at something new that just didn’t stick the landing. It’s still playable, and can be fun if you go in with zilch expectations. X6 is a fucking mess that’s broken, appallingly designed, extremely frustrating that, worst of all, completely messes up a tried and true formula.

@-rlmn Жыл бұрын

X7 wasn't even an attempt, the new team LITERALLY didn't knew how to do the older formula, Capcom knew of this before you ask