Why the Men in ‘Bulbbul’ Are So Disappointing | Men Written By Women Episode 6: Bulbbul

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Writer-director Anvitaa Dutt speaks about the boys of Bulbbul - the dark story behind Mahendra knowing how to shut Bulbbul up, Indranil as the ineffective patriarch, and Satya, as the ‘progressive man’ who turns out to be the gravest disappointment of all.
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@TheSwaddleTV Жыл бұрын

To listen to Anvitaa Dutt dissect ‘Bulbbul’ in detail, check out our podcast series ‘The Best Parts’ on your favorite podcast streaming platform, or click on this link: open.spotify.com/show/6Nhthu7iFL5uaOap5yYJTQ?si=tPaWfWuTQRC7113nyM3hZA&nd=1

@TS....... Жыл бұрын

Bulbul characters are disappointing because they are very realistic and not some sugar coated feel good storytelling. Even Binodini's jealousy and control towards bulbul is very realistic portrayal of family dynamics. Reality is dark and disappointing.

@jjjjjkwkk Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@dominikjunior1998 Жыл бұрын

How it's realistic? 😂😂

@Maya_hee 11 ай бұрын

@@dominikjunior1998How is it not?

@dominikjunior1998 11 ай бұрын

@@Maya_hee it's story of some very rich family from Kolkata before independence. Hypothetical incidences with unrealistic characters. You cannot draw conclusions from such a movie. What percentage of people come accross such things 10^-10 percentage. Please be realistic.

@Maya_hee 11 ай бұрын

@@dominikjunior1998 Even if one person goes through this, it's still realistic but that's not the point. Let me tell you what's realistic. Child marriages, men preying on young girls and abusing their wives. Men r@ping women. Women having internalised misogyny and subjecting other women to the same crap they went through and enabling it. Women being killed during sexu@l violence from men. All of these things are an every day occurrence in both rich and poor areas.

@songbrittakundu8904 Жыл бұрын

Why no mention about Dr.Sudip? Because he was a man I didn't find disgusting. He is a doctor, he is extra careful about helping Bulbul recover, becomes her close friend and even perhaps a confidant and yet after developing almost the same emotions as that of Satya's, admits right on the face of Bulbul when asked by her , that he is a coward and that he would like to maintain boundaries. So somewhere down, he has consciously reckoned his feeling for a woman like Bulbul but realises soon that that's not all that is enough to build the relationship he covets secretly with her. He is true to both his feelings and Bulbul and also to his outlook as a person being a doctor, where he says that he would rather like saving than hunting. And that triggers Satya, where he is even more mired in with the complex and confounding relationship he has always shared with his bhaabi Bulbul and grows into an overbearingly protective patriarch. The nature if which is condemned by the free spirited Bulbul, when her heart is broken finding her old friend and once close confidant since childhood having same notions growing from toxic masculinity.

@frootiii Жыл бұрын

absolutely dr.sudip is one fresh air on bulbbul 🥰

@codeytherex5954 Жыл бұрын

Parambrata is a gem playing such charming characters.

@archanakumaridasgupta5536 Жыл бұрын

Sudeep, in one of the last conversations, at the blue kothi when she says- darpok! ....and he says- bahut. Koi umeed nhi rakh raha hoon.. That's the most genuine i love you ever. Aesa ladka.... Uff!!❤

@sr9279 Жыл бұрын

I m confused, the replies are contradicting the original post but think they re agreeing 😂

@sakshipatil3992 Жыл бұрын

I fell in love with him

@notrealatall196 Жыл бұрын

Bulbul was a shock to me - why wasnt it more famous? Why werent the stars credited more?! Did it not get anough awards?! I hadnt even heard of the movie actually. When i saw it i was surprised at how good it was. Realistic story... captured with artistic cinematography and metaphorical story line. With great real actors ( not big names with medeocre acting skills). This was class apart and worthy of being sent for the oscars

@scrambledegg27 Жыл бұрын

It's a great movie...and yes it's underrated bcoz it's too real that people are scared if it becomes successful then the society will be exposed...people specially men they can't handle that this is the truth this is how women are treated....some people even trashed the movie saying it is showing men in negative ways they are not at all accepting that this is reality

@nemezizthedestroyer5237 10 ай бұрын

@@scrambledegg27it's not that deep, they just did a bad marketing job.

@anonymously2570 Жыл бұрын

the reason it hits hard is because it's real on so many levels that we don't even realise. anvita's a gem and i can't wait to see more from her. much love to swaddle for making this series

@Vizorfam Жыл бұрын

I just wish that society changes fast enough and all the men realise that a woman is a force you cannot mess with and start respecting her

@user-jc1km1qv1m Жыл бұрын

@@Vizorfam respect is earned. And only goven to those who deserve

@INA-ry9wj 5 ай бұрын

did you see Qala?

@SeonaleeSobermati Жыл бұрын

Disappointing is not the word. Disgusting would be appropriate!

@xyz-jv9df Жыл бұрын

Oh yaaa. . . That makes more sense

@ritankarmitra9085 Жыл бұрын

For women in Bulbul, the word should be unrealistic. LOLWA

@SeonaleeSobermati Жыл бұрын

@@ritankarmitra9085 yes it’s kinda unrealistic for she rose to stamp on all the evils overcoming all the atrocities. Usually women who go through such trauma will never see the day. Of course it’s too far from reality.

@raskolnikov7034 Жыл бұрын

@@ritankarmitra9085 It's a movie brother

@levinkr6885 Жыл бұрын

@@SeonaleeSobermati utube itslef is by men... So u wmen are wrtten by men

@dr.anaB777 Жыл бұрын

"Tum sab ek jaise ho" proved again by all the men in this comment section.

@sreyanshuchaterjee3962 Жыл бұрын

A bitter toxic feminist cannot accept other view points. She has to win on her own terms and dominate the narrative. Fascist and narcissist mentality breeds from privileged, self entitled divas.

@Akashkumar-ot8tt Жыл бұрын

proud on that

@anshumannbele4373 10 ай бұрын

Popcorn time, let the argument continue

@Anthoniiii 4 ай бұрын

Proud on that ,,, feminist btch

@KarishmaAgrawal-zm1tk 4 ай бұрын

Fr can't believe hpw their mother would feel having sons like them

@frootiii Жыл бұрын

dont know why but i was expecting for a different end, climax where satya gets to know the rea face of his hero brother and self reflects his emotions, later on finds the truth and give justice to binodini, but that could be too off bulbbul. the actual ending was very unexpected loved it.

@Acceptourflaw Жыл бұрын

Everyone expected it because that's the fantasy media has been showing us, but this one ended with reality.

@Supriya100kar Жыл бұрын

That would have made Satya, a very unreal hero of the movie. In reality, men aren't that brave to go against their families for justice.

@shivranjinighegde1113 Жыл бұрын

But the hero of the movie is Bulbul, not Satya. He is too much of a coward to try to do anything about the truth

@ihaveanaceupmysleeveandits1611 Жыл бұрын

@@Supriya100kar in reality, men aren't brave. That's good enough

@TheDivineDarkFemme Ай бұрын

Actually he did get to know the face of his brothers .... see at the very end, he writes a letter to Indranil saying that all of their hands are covered in the blood of the same woman . So this brings us to the conclusion that at one point in the forest , the doctor told him the entire truth . About her feet and Mahendras death amd the death of the rest . That's why indranil comes back one final time after Satya cuts off contact with him.

@scrambledegg27 Жыл бұрын

This movie is too realistic it tries to cover every aspect of society Bulbul the innocent child who married man of her father's age All three men one who beats her, other raped her and the most disappointing one is satya who she loved who was his friend, he didn't believed her. Binodini was jealous female which is also very common in society. It doesn't showed only bad things about men there was a character Dr. Sudip he was there for bulbul he helped her a lot so it also shows a good side too Overall this movie is great for me

@Suuuu349 Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for a discussion like this. Bulbbul is movie that very deeply impacted me. Thanks for putting this up.

@wrathbrisket5801 3 ай бұрын

Ok susu 😂

@kanchigangwani9115 Жыл бұрын

Loved the analysis and the thought process behind the depictions!

@yuvashreeharidoss7496 Жыл бұрын

Request for to The Swaddle team , could you please have trigger warnings before hand to indicate at discuss or visuals involving rape and violence

@heyrose1586 Жыл бұрын

True

@anonymouslyopinionated656 Жыл бұрын

no, stop being coddled child, expect things to be uncomfortable now that you're an adult

@lightningbolt4467 Жыл бұрын

@@anonymouslyopinionated656 maybe stfu and go cry to your mummy

@SMon-wh6om Жыл бұрын

Ye to shuru hote hi khatam ho gaya. Was wanting an in depth analysis that goes on for hours atleast.

@SMon-wh6om Жыл бұрын

@@iu9130 oh thank you. That's a relief.

@notrealatall196 Жыл бұрын

The storyline is real. Simple. So no fancy fairy tale ending. Just dr whos a kind man. It has many male and female characters who are products of a toxic culture that we dont want to accept happened and we dont want to deal with the areas that currently harbour such ppl too.

@rohanxdavis Жыл бұрын

Excellent writing, and excellent movie 🙏🏾 thank you for creating this

@SoulEscapeTarot Жыл бұрын

I am 2 mins in and I was'nt ready for this. Wow. I did not know about this show at all. What a raw and realistic portrayal of characters, disturbing as intended to be. Great work!!

@moushimoushi. Жыл бұрын

This was different..... educational fun podcast....loved it!

@amritapuri2964 Жыл бұрын

But....what i found disturbing is...Mahendra, the brother with cognitive abilities....why did he rape bulbul ? If he was a child at heart like ma'am mentioned in the video, from where did he get the instinct to rape her ? Isn't that absurd ?

@mahijha3114 Жыл бұрын

Probably saw something?

@amritapuri2964 Жыл бұрын

@@mahijha3114 saw....what ?

@disha8976 Жыл бұрын

He is a child at heart but has a man's body. A body that has gone through puberty, naturally gets aroused by looking at a woman. It's the same as a teenager with an underdeveloped brain but is too horny to control themselves or detect dangers and consequences which commonly leads to unwanted pregnancies. Mating is a very important and natural process that doesn't need to be taught. Life literally depends on it. Animals even find ways to understand how to mate. He probably raped his wife like this but at the end still doesn't understand the consequences and concepts like consent, rape.

@amritapuri2964 Жыл бұрын

@@disha8976 okay....thanking your explaining.

@ygnit5793 Жыл бұрын

@@mahijha3114 Even mentally handicapped people do have sexual needs, but what doesn't develop in their brains at all is any kind of understanding or most importantly, control over it. It's like any other childish need like eating, playing or wanting something, his wife propably did cater to his sexual needs when it was possible so he must have learned it in some way, but had no adult comprehension of when & with whom it's appropriate or that it can hurt someone else

@minswagg5929 6 ай бұрын

The only gentleman in the movie was Dr. Sudeep, he was just the best man in the whole village for god’s sake!

@yesulga9827 Жыл бұрын

i want a hour long video of this

@TheSwaddleTV Жыл бұрын

You can listen to the full podcast here -- open.spotify.com/show/6Nhthu7iFL5uaOap5yYJTQ?si=tPaWfWuTQRC7113nyM3hZA&nd=1

@yesulga9827 Жыл бұрын

@@TheSwaddleTV loved the podcast. hope we can get one on qala too

@ohnaaanaaa7552 Жыл бұрын

Hey TeamSwaddle, how come the spotify podcast doesn't have the bit about satya's romantic inclination towards bulbul. Was it just a part of this teaser or did I miss it in the podcast?

@yashagar4443 Жыл бұрын

Awesome....keep up the good work

@_cin.a.ber_ Жыл бұрын

She explained the ans to her que so well I was just into it... So nice ✨

@krystalgomez2300 Жыл бұрын

Bulbul was really so fkin hard to watch man. Great movie

@xxdeathcorexx2340 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful

@srijasingh6533 Жыл бұрын

Bulbul is a master class in filmmaking and the implications of patriarchy on the 2 genders… it’s art imitating life come alive ❤❤ Is there a longer version of the interview?? Would love to watch the artist herself decode the subliminal messaging of the film.

@lyannabucket2772 Ай бұрын

This movie is amazing. This writer is an icon. Extraordinary.

@ipsitasenapati5167 Жыл бұрын

I need the whole video of this podcast

@TheSwaddleTV Жыл бұрын

Hey, you can listen to the full podcast here: open.spotify.com/show/6Nhthu7iFL5uaOap5yYJTQ?si=tPaWfWuTQRC7113nyM3hZA&nd=1

@iu9130 Жыл бұрын

What?????? I didn't know that he had also SAed binodini !! The movie didn't mention that?

@supr33 Жыл бұрын

I didn't notice it either... I think it was only implied because Binodini does not seem surprised even though she must have realised what has happened to Bulbbul. Then she just asks her to keep quiet about it.

@frootiii Жыл бұрын

same

@prasunpandey7223 6 ай бұрын

most men in the world are like these 3 its rare to find a dr sudip dont believe me look around

@shruti4613 Жыл бұрын

Please upload full podcasts on youtube!🥺

@AyeshaKhan-gp9on Жыл бұрын

I loved this movie from the moment it released ❤

@tejeshrimahajan3954 7 ай бұрын

Where can we get to watch it 🤔

@shauryashandillya8109 Жыл бұрын

Where to find the episode 1 for Bulbbul??

@annaswan1007 11 ай бұрын

Idk...but I never found satya disappointing...i totally agree with this statement that it's his brother's wife ,even subconsciously he won't ever think of naming that relationship along romantic lines but emotionally he is feeling everything.....also he has no idea of what has happened unlike doctor so it's natural if you see your brother's wife with someone like that while he may himself feels something for her which he isn't even thinking about....that's some very confusing emotions he's dealing with.....so he acts upon the only thing he is absolutely clear about which is that his brother's wife not being faithful to his "hero"........but at the end you could clearly see his raw emotions for her......he is actually very realistic...

@krishnagopalsrivastava2084 5 ай бұрын

Yes, Satya is my favorite character. He's the only sane man in the house

@uweil918 Жыл бұрын

Please do Qala next!

@SK-px7dm 11 ай бұрын

looks like i have understood the movie more than the interviewer

@tanyabatra8649 Жыл бұрын

Could someone explain what she meant from 3:10 to 3:41 . I didn't quite understand it.

@snehalgaikwad4812 10 ай бұрын

In today's time we can identify, understand and critic patriarchy. But that wasn't the case earlier Today, we're better at recognizing and understanding patriarchy, but in the past, people didn't really grasp its complexities because they didn't even know the word. The adverse dimensions of patriarchy, which are now evident, weren't as apparent in earlier periods.

@payalnayak5542 Жыл бұрын

Why did this video ended ?

@kevalsinghnayal 3 ай бұрын

can someone explain the last line.....i dint get it...... she said.....he ll order the booze you ll order snacks.....what does that mean?

@indudahiya2486 4 ай бұрын

Why did indranil leave the palace? This is one question that is still there with me. I mean is it because he loved bulbul and didn't want to admit he did wrong to her? What made him leave?!!!

@ni3070 Жыл бұрын

I didnt get the booze and snacks reference properly......anyone can elaborate

@riggedrugs6224 Жыл бұрын

"But when you're at home he's ordering the booze, you're ordering the snacks "

@sangitakalita6736 Жыл бұрын

Because most men are disappointing 💔

@iu9130 Жыл бұрын

Frrrrr

@gampa_10_31 Жыл бұрын

You should have said most men in my life

@--MahadyHasan Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. Most men are dissapointing, and most women are innocent angels. Just do us men one favor, will you? Remove all the men from your life. Never seek a male partner. Be a lifelong celibate, or a lesbian, or maybe die alone, or what have you. Just stay away from men. We don't need you in our lives. You are not welcome, thank you.

@ZarathustraSpeaking Жыл бұрын

@@gampa_10_31 feeling sorry for her dad 😂

@gampa_10_31 Жыл бұрын

@@ZarathustraSpeaking Yeah, Same man

@kaveew Жыл бұрын

DR SUDIP 😭

@dondavis8588 2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 women comparing men now to men in those era is crazy

@tanyajustine3223 Жыл бұрын

Can someone pls explain what they meant by ordering the booze and the snacks. That kind of flew over my head.

@frootiii Жыл бұрын

Like people cowardly pleaser behaviour,

@rajpalbhatia1715 Жыл бұрын

Like those men, who say something and do something else, try to look better but in actual terms there are the worst.

@tanyajustine3223 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@nchl5340 Жыл бұрын

That's a beautiful way of portraying the double standards. My grandfather is a certified and unapologetic misogynist. But I feel educated men I have seen in my office who pretend to be "progressive" and "liberal" are much worse than people like my grandfather.

@mimis.5139 11 ай бұрын

@@tanyajustine3223 the example is they would stand for the working Section of others parties but when there's party as their home, they would be the one ordering not delivering food out. Like call their wife to give food to the guest and to them but not being a proper host. But these same people would call other other men if they do the same thing in their house.

@nandini2999 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Sudeep

@sudham757 Жыл бұрын

Okay so binodini said, badi haveli me bade raaz hote hai. But why did Mahindra had to rape bulbul? Like if he has a child like personality, then why would he do such a thing? It's really confusing me. I understand about the backward mindset of other men, but I don't understand why he would do that.

@someonefromsomewhere6650 Жыл бұрын

Child rap* other child too.

@nchl5340 Жыл бұрын

Mahendra sees Bulbul as a toy that he wants to play with. It is his brother's toy that he wants for himself. It's a twisted way of portraying men who sees women as nothing but toys without feelings.

@moMdaD-fm3ng Жыл бұрын

Just like women see men as a Bank and not a Human. 🤑

@nchl5340 Жыл бұрын

@@moMdaD-fm3ng Why so butthurt? Hit closer to home or women in your house dont work? Anyways none of the women I know need money from men. They all have jobs.

@dr.anaB777 Жыл бұрын

Because he sees her as a doll without feelings or thoughts, just like the men in real life who only see women as an instrument of their sexual pleasure.

@satyaprakash03133 Жыл бұрын

This is downright puerile!

@anonymouslyopinionated656 Жыл бұрын

because women are no better at writing men than men are at writing women...

@dr.anaB777 Жыл бұрын

No, women are better writers than men in general. Keep crying.

@badalnath3511 7 ай бұрын

Lmao I've fallen in love with men written by women😂

@nayab6129 2 ай бұрын

@@dr.anaB777Nope

@mrocean2305 Жыл бұрын

It's mind boggling to see women hating men over a "historical fiction horor" story. If it was a movie based on real events or current times then it would have made some sense but this is screaming "Echochamber" of men haters.

@Pragy30 Жыл бұрын

It's mind boggling to see men hating women all the time. Right from Pyar ka Punchnama, HIMYM, to porn, everything is their echochamber

@amritapuri2964 Жыл бұрын

Don't mind me saying this but, most of the men deserve to be hated. Y'all walk around just fucking scaring and destroying everyone around you.

@pianoguy5110 Жыл бұрын

@@amritapuri2964 Hey, let me tell you something, generalizing an entire gender is not only ignorant but also shows how close-minded and biased you are. It's people like you who are the real problem in society, spreading hate and creating division. Maybe you should focus on improving yourself instead of hating on others.

@dr.anaB777 Жыл бұрын

@@Pragy30 yesss!!!

@eshitasahu 9 ай бұрын

You think things like these don’t happen all the time….these are literally the everyday realities of a lot of women…. Let me give you an example…”2012 Nirbhaya case”

@subhasish661411 Жыл бұрын

Entire Bengali culture sphere is always always about villainify men and putting women in high pedestal. There isn't a single Bengali TV serial where a super Marry Sue character is running everything and men are either props or villains. All women are Durga/Kali and all men are asura. Mind you this is from a culture that is all about women worshipping, the starting point of liberal feminism in indian subcontinent, where the 12th pass out ratio skewed extremely towards women in 60 to 40 ratio. Even with all that misandry is cultivated culturally here which no one talks about. Makes me wonder sometimes whether northern conservative part of india has right ideas.

@debarpanmitra8404 Жыл бұрын

Yes, you are absolutely right👍I am also from bengal and it's really making me think.

@subhasish661411 Жыл бұрын

@@debarpanmitra8404 all you have to do is look at each and every Bengali serials running. Most ads, social representation during Durga Puja, forever decreasing boys from school and still spending only on girl's education.

@debarpanmitra8404 Жыл бұрын

@@subhasish661411 yes absolutely

@somalichakraborty484 Жыл бұрын

A person who may be only lived in Kolkata can't generalized whole Bengal.

@subhasish661411 Жыл бұрын

I have enough data points to make that statements but toxic burgois pseudofeminists of bengal would want to keep their privileges without ever sharing any responsibilities.

@nachikethdoraiswamy58 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm gay. Bye

@anishabharadwaz7695 4 ай бұрын

Good for you what else

@ZarathustraSpeaking Жыл бұрын

In this movie satya is seen as disappointment yet they completely erased the fact that this series of events happend because of a "women" 😂 And never in this movie bulbul co fide satya about her problem so how in the world he could do anything for her? Was he supposed to have telepathy? 😂 No matter whether are you good or bad men will all be judged as same, so what's the point of being good? And that's why fe-minism fever is starting to get off from new generation. 😏

@howwbiee1494 Жыл бұрын

Satya was disappointing not because he didn't get bulbbul's situation but because he completely missed how kind of person she is. In his jealousy that was so visible he just started to question her morals and characters. He was a very dear to bulbbul, her safe place so she and us viewers expected smth better. He was a good person but then again it showed reality even for today that we often turn out how people around us are and how their mentality is.

@ZarathustraSpeaking Жыл бұрын

@@howwbiee1494 like the swaddle you also ignored the fact that this happened because of a women jealousy but anyways. Since he was her safe space then why didn't confessed him about her hardship? And like she was regularly meeting with an other men without any reason. So his doubting her make perfect sense. What's disappointing in that? Its the human nature. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@neelanshsingh2846 Жыл бұрын

@@ZarathustraSpeaking You're really naive if you think abuse and assault is that easy to talk about. That was the point. Its sickening to see men try to defend Bulbbul's assault even though she's a fictional character. It disgusts me to think how you would react if (God forbid) someone you actually know suffers through this.

@ZarathustraSpeaking Жыл бұрын

@@neelanshsingh2846 it makes my brain cells disappear by how women rationaloze their behavior even if it's wrong. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@moonchild27 Жыл бұрын

@@ZarathustraSpeaking have you even watched the movie? And you're actually defending Bulbul's sexual assault by saying "she used to meet other men" disgusting mentality but what else can we expect from an illiterate like you

@sm24572 Жыл бұрын

feminist problem with men, nothing new really!

@ST0ICSAGE Жыл бұрын

Why men in bulbul are disappointing?? Because it is written by a women.

@Pragy30 Жыл бұрын

Hmm ... are men in IRL also written by men? :P Joke aside, Bulbul demanded such. Men written by women is a trope used to depict men characters who are admirable for women audience - for example, Bangalore days. On the other hand, pick any typical Bollywood/Telugu movie to see women written by men - air headed bimbos with amazing looks and being a liability to men especially in their battles against villains

@ritankarmitra9085 Жыл бұрын

Killed it LOL

@shilpavijay7490 Жыл бұрын

In Real Life also, only a handful of Men are Not Disappointing - so thank you for admitting that the vast majority including you, were written by Women. Atleast this Realisation / Reminder would help us Women discard Your Existence as Fictional (Caricature - to be precise) and look for Companionship from the Authentic, Self-Reflecting Ones among You.

@ST0ICSAGE Жыл бұрын

@@shilpavijay7490 Lol your whole rant explains how desperate and lonely you are in real life!!.... You are the kind who burden men around you with your mere presence and believe they deserve it. Be mad, biatch!

@pianoguy5110 Жыл бұрын

@@ST0ICSAGE That all what they can do my brother... 😂 Don't reply to them. Cuz they are Karens